EIRE sign, Bray head discovery.

ED E · 06-09-2018 12:57am

ambasite wrote: »

Nice video footage of it here:

Short links don't embed.

tricky D · 06-09-2018 1:26am

There is also one on Howth above Casana Rock, which is the most eastern point of Howth and makes sense. It was restored a few decades ago and is now overgrown, though some white bits can be seen on Google Earth.

Calina · 07-09-2018 1:23pm

tricky D wrote: »

There is also one on Howth above Casana Rock, which is the most eastern point of Howth and makes sense. It was restored a few decades ago and is now overgrown, though some white bits can be seen on Google Earth.

Hi. I would be grateful for any evidence of this as I have conflicting views on Howth's sign. I built www.eiremarkings.org and Howth pains me as I cannot be certain I located it correctly. A couple of people have had a look lately and have not really found anything and I have been given conflicting info about its precise location.

ohnonotgmail · 07-09-2018 1:29pm

casana rock is in the bottom right of this part of howth

https://www.google.com/maps/search/casana+rock+howth/@53.3806262,-6.0461809,160m/data=!3m1!1e3

tricky D · 07-09-2018 3:27pm

Calina wrote: »

Hi. I would be grateful for any evidence of this as I have conflicting views on Howth's sign. I built www.eiremarkings.org and Howth pains me as I cannot be certain I located it correctly. A couple of people have had a look lately and have not really found anything and I have been given conflicting info about its precise location.

I was just up there and it doesn't look to be the right place and there is nothing under the growth that looks like a contender and the area doesn't look large enough. I am thinking it is further south and inland which is well overgrown.

The good news is that Howth Pathways are talking about restoring it, It was restored 35 years ago and there are folks whose brains I am trying to pick who know exactly where it is (O'Rourkes).

Will let you know in due course.

salmocab · 07-09-2018 5:02pm

The Howth one would be great if it was visible on the flight path into Dublin

tricky D · 11-09-2018 10:50pm

@Calina

Got it!

Move your pin to 53°22'29.77"N 6° 2'59.36"W

Nothing visible from above or beside, for now. Fingal are in the mix now for getting it restored. I was right on top of it on Friday, rummaging up the paths but it is all gorsed and blackberried over.

Rawr · 13-09-2018 1:23pm

tricky D wrote: »

@Calina

Got it!

Move your pin to 53°22'29.77"N 6° 2'59.36"W

Nothing visible from above or beside, for now. Fingal are in the mix now for getting it restored. I was right on top of it on Friday, rummaging up the paths but it is all gorsed and blackberried over.

Ah man, I was way off (I thought I had found it ealier

)

You can kind of make it out on Google Maps if you use the above map as a reference. You can almost see the "6" too

https://www.google.com/maps/search/casana+rock+howth/@53.3748881,-6.0495757,117m/data=!3m1!1e3

Calina · 13-09-2018 1:39pm

Actually this is nice because it confirms one of the things I was told which was that it was landside of the path. I'll get the map and entry updated.

I had a look back at OSI aerial photography in the area. It really isn't clear on any of them so I think it has been pretty overgrown for at least 20 years. Someone told me the sign in Clogherhead in Louth is still in place but similarly, is overgrown and likewise, one in Fenit in Kerry. But no one had said anything about the Bray Head one. Anyway, the map is updated for Howth now along with the entry. I'd be grateful if I could add that image above though, tricky D. Did you draw it up yourself or is it on a plan somewhere (ie, whose permission do I have to ask?)

tricky D · 13-09-2018 2:08pm

Calina, it's is a Fingal CC map so should be fine to use. I will double check for you just in case and let you know.

There is a bench going to be put at the side of the path and Fingal have no plans to restore the sign. A reason cited was habitat loss but if enough people campaign for it being reinstated, that may change.

I feel a campaign coming on.

Calina · 13-09-2018 2:18pm

tricky D wrote: »

Calina, it's is a Fingal CC map so should be fine to use. I will double check for you just in case and let you know.

There is a bench going to be put at the side of the path and Fingal have no plans to restore the sign. A reason cited was habitat loss but if enough people campaign for it being reinstated, that may change.

I feel a campaign coming on.

It'd be a pity not to restore it - I have had 2 enquiries about that sign. Let me know if there is someone you think I should write to about it.

tricky D · 13-09-2018 2:34pm

I'm going to have chat with some of the local councillors and try to get a plan of action together.

Another thing is that that land is owned by Treasury Holdings who I am told are open to it being restored. /Good

0lddog · 13-09-2018 3:01pm

tricky D wrote: »

.......A reason cited was habitat loss .......

A perfect clause to get out of any gardening that I dont want to do.

Thanks Fingal !

Carawaystick · 16-09-2018 1:35am

I presume whoever might restore it are going to have the sign say Éire, not Eire, which would be a burden lifted...

P_1 · 16-09-2018 8:30pm

So if Howth is 6 and Bray is 8, where is 7?

EchoIndia · 16-09-2018 8:46pm

P_1 wrote: »

So if Howth is 6 and Bray is 8, where is 7?

Dalkey. There is lots on the net about these if you search.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1KRXEHosY4wTRMdKxpJijkf6lnFw&hl=en_US&ll=53.46220387758009%2C-8.23591250000004&z=6

P_1 · 16-09-2018 8:57pm

EchoIndia wrote: »

Dalkey. There is lots on the net about these if you search.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1KRXEHosY4wTRMdKxpJijkf6lnFw&hl=en_US&ll=53.46220387758009%2C-8.23591250000004&z=6

That makes sense. Think I may have to go exploring Howth next weekend

tricky D · 16-09-2018 9:05pm

P_1 wrote: »

That makes sense. Think I may have to go exploring Howth next weekend

You will see absolutely nothing. I went for a rummage there today right into the gorse and the evidence is so well buried beneath dead gorse that even my scrapings couldn't muster anything.

Disappointing tbh.

bronn · 16-09-2018 10:34pm

Was there today too. I tried to get in amongst the gorse but it was far too prickly. However, there are a few stones buried under there which could be part of it. Int he meantime, this is what it looks like (looking out to sea from behind it and looking at it from the cliff walk). Thanks for finding it, Tricky D.

I'd love to see it restored as it's much easier to get to than the Bray one.

bronn · 16-09-2018 10:46pm

Not a great photo, I know but you might be interested. This is Bray Head from Howth Summit. On full zoom, I could just about make out the Eire 8 sign but only because I knew exactly where to look for it.

tricky D · 17-09-2018 12:08am

For the benefit of others, it is on the inner cliff path, a few yards south on the opposite side of the path to the low curved stone bench.

Yep. It really is an unremarkable spot.

There is a white marking on the path in this pic which is where I reckon the bench is going.

P_1 · 17-09-2018 8:49am

tricky D wrote: »

Link not working for me.

You will see absolutely nothing. I went for a rummage there today right into the gorse and the evidence is so well buried beneath dead gorse that even my scrapings couldn't muster anything.

Disappointing tbh.

Any excuse for a ramble around the cliff path tbh

tricky D · 30-09-2018 7:33pm

Part of the 2nd E now uncovered due to bench works. Line of rocks 1/4 from bottom.

0lddog · 04-11-2018 7:34pm

Any whispers as to what way the CoCo are thinking on this ?

As others have said, given its location it would be very apt that it would be restored

tricky D · 11-02-2019 11:01pm

The one on Bray Head from the air today (with added camera vibration).

jimbis · 12-02-2019 3:51pm

I flew over the bray sign last November on my first flight out of Newcastle. It's surprisingly low on the cliff face compared to what previous pics would make you think. Very cool to see it though.