Film forum off topic/random chat thread

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 26-11-2014 5:48pm

I was in an Odeon the other day, haven't been in it since it was UCI. Film scheduled to start at 2:15, we're sat there for a good 10 minutes before the screen even comes on. About 2:30 the ads start. About 2:45 the trailers start. Now it's pushing 3.00 and...... more ads.

I guess people got wise to the fact films weren't starting when it said and were skipping the ads and trailers. So now even if you come in late you still have to sit through them.

Ole Rodrigo · 26-11-2014 5:56pm

Actually, getting in on time often means being constantly interrupted by latecomers.

Sad Professor · 26-11-2014 6:11pm

e_e wrote: »

What's with the amount of ads in Cineworld lately? Was in there today and the film didn't start until 26 minutes after the scheduled time. :eek:

It’s the same in Vue. I don’t mind trailers so much but the ads shown before them are torture. I don’t watch any broadcast television, so the cinema is my only exposure to them.

e_e · 26-11-2014 7:04pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Haven't they always been around the 25 minute mark? I haven't been in Cineworld as much as I used to be, but any occasion I timed the adverts in the past they were clocking in or around that length. Either way, it's fairly ludicrous.

Up until the past few visits (been going there for years) they've been from the 15 to 20 minute mark.

Checked my watch and the actual trailers didn't even begin until after 15 minutes. :pac:

e_e · 26-11-2014 7:06pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

It’s the same in Vue. I don’t mind trailers so much but the ads shown before them are torture. I don’t watch any broadcast television, so the cinema is my only exposure to them.

Yeah these ads are exactly why whenever I watch TV I just DVR the show and then skip them.

pixelburp · 27-11-2014 2:54pm

e_e wrote: »

Up until the past few visits (been going there for years) they've been from the 15 to 20 minute mark.

Checked my watch and the actual trailers didn't even begin until after 15 minutes. :pac:

Hmm, I've definitely clocked the delay at 25 minutes in the past, but not always tbh, and I've wondered if perhaps the time of day and relative popularity of the screening has anything to do with how many/few adverts are shown?

vidor · 27-11-2014 8:29pm

e_e wrote: »

What's with the amount of ads in Cineworld lately? Was in there today and the film didn't start until 26 minutes after the scheduled time. :eek:

26 is a decent chunk of time for people to get rid of those nachos before a film starts.

johnny_ultimate · 27-11-2014 8:34pm

Cineworld's farcical pricing means its excessive advertising is thankfully not something I find myself enduring very often.

Goldstein · 27-11-2014 9:30pm

Was 25 mins (After the advertised start time) waiting for Interstellar to begin in the OmniMaxx screen in MP. Now I know how they're paying for it! All the seats in every screen are allocated now which is great and I was one of the last to arrive as I enjoy being able to skip the ads, Some people must have been sitting there well over 45 mins before it started. Crazy. The start time should be the start time of the film, not the 25 minute long ads.

Also the picture was horrendously dark in there (Usually only shows 3D movies in that fantastic 4k screen which is daft). Assuming it was due to only one 2k channel in use? They shouldn't get away wth that malarky. It was very conspicuous and borderline annoying.

Sad Professor · 27-11-2014 10:20pm

Goldstein wrote: »

Also the picture was horrendously dark in there (Usually only shows 3D movies in that fantastic 4k screen which is daft). Assuming it was due to only one 2k channel in use? They shouldn't get away wth that malarky. It was very conspicuous and borderline annoying.

The 3D polarisation filter hadn’t been removed. On Sony 4k systems they are built into the lens of the projector. Ideally the lens should be changed for 2D films, but multiplex staff aren’t trained nor allowed anywhere near the projector.

Vue regularly show 2D films in their 3D screens with similarly dismal results. I complained to the manager about it and he admitted that they don’t change the 3D lens for 2D films. He said it technically isn’t required and the light readings meet the minimum standards required by the studio.

This is what happens when you get rid of projectionists.

e_e · 28-11-2014 1:01am

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Cineworld's farcical pricing means its excessive advertising is thankfully not something I find myself enduring very often.

In my case its the price to pay for seeing films averaging at around 2 euro a go with my unlimited card.

28-11-2014 4:01am

The amount if ads before films has out me off going to the cinema lately. I've yet to see Interstellar or The Homesman, a film I really want to see but I don't want to have to watch 20 minutes if ads before the feature presentation. I'm considering importing the French Blu-ray of the latter as it won't cost much more than the price if a cinema ticket and will be ad free. I love the cinema, it's my favourite place in the world but the excessive ads and trailes full of spoilers are hard to take.

OldeCinemaSoz · 29-11-2014 12:25am

It's QUEER. I picked up the SEVENER HITCKCOCK today at BLACK FRIDAY. Perusing the discs I smiled
wryly how THE FRENCH could rate FRENZY a 12. Indeed, as their coda regarding anything Nazi memorabilia gets a 16,
it's all very SUSPECT.

And WE all thought FRANK HALL was A WANKER?!?!?!

charlie_says · 30-11-2014 1:08am

Deleted User wrote: »

The amount if ads before films has out me off going to the cinema lately. I've yet to see Interstellar or The Homesman, a film I really want to see but I don't want to have to watch 20 minutes if ads before the feature presentation. I'm considering importing the French Blu-ray of the latter as it won't cost much more than the price if a cinema ticket and will be ad free. I love the cinema, it's my favourite place in the world but the excessive ads and trailes full of spoilers are hard to take.

I usually have a quick game of backgammon on my phone whilst those pesky ads are going.

The anti-piracy ones take the f*cking biscuit though. I would download a car if I could....

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 30-11-2014 1:17am

charlie_says wrote: »

I usually have a quick game of backgammon on my phone whilst those pesky ads are going.

The anti-piracy ones take the f*cking biscuit though. I would download a car if I could....

I remember the ones that used to be on videos when you rented them. You wouldn't steal a pizza? I bloody would!

e_e · 30-11-2014 1:35am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63VRJQYcNn0

Love this series that Criterion puts out. This one is particularly insightful and passionate.

OldeCinemaSoz · 06-12-2014 12:56am

My biggest failure during that halcyon SUMMER OF '83 was
introducing the porno into the late night mix.

Indeed, where DUEL and ZABARISKE POINT used to be at least
watched, now only BIG BOY JOHN HOLMES was just wanted.

FATAL.

Birneybau · 06-12-2014 1:09am

OldeCinemaSoz wrote: »

My biggest failure during that halcyon SUMMER OF '83 was
introducing the porno into the late night mix.

Indeed, where DUEL and ZABARISKE POINT used to be at least
watched, now only BIG BOY JOHN HOLMES was just wanted.

FATAL.

YOU'RE mental.

e_e · 06-12-2014 6:49pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRdHmB-EH9o

Such a strange trailer, making it look a lot wackier than it actually is. I kinda like it though.

GAAman · 06-12-2014 9:49pm

OldeCinemaSoz wrote: »

My biggest failure during that halcyon SUMMER OF '83 was
introducing the porno into the late night mix.

Indeed, where DUEL and ZABARISKE POINT used to be at least
watched, now only BIG BOY JOHN HOLMES was just wanted.

FATAL.

Why DO you POST
like THAT

SERIOUSLY?!

OldeCinemaSoz · 07-12-2014 12:35am

I've always thought that, despite the hated, that RANDY CRAWFORD's theme CHOON for
the excellent and very underrated SHARKEYS MACHINE is possibley the BEST OF the '80s?

WONDERFUL.

johnny_ultimate · 08-12-2014 1:18am

I see Goodbye to Language is out on Blu Ray tomorrow - but that means it has skipped a full theatrical release

What a shame - was very much looking forward to experiencing the sensory assault on the big screen again. And it means fewer people will get to see it in mandatory 3D, unless they own a 3D TV!

On the plus side, at least I can start trying to decipher the narrative properly

e_e · 08-12-2014 1:24am

Yeah missed the French Film Festival screening but thought "ah sure it's gonna play a week in the IFI anyway.". I really wanted to see what Godard was gonna do with 3D but am not gonna shell out on a TV for that sake. :mad:

johnny_ultimate · 08-12-2014 10:06am

Yeah genuinely surprised it didn't get a theatrical release, even bearing in mind Godard isn't the most commercially viable of directors (although GTL has been a big arthouse hit in the States). Typical that the one film that legitimately needs a cinema screening doesn't get one! Very relieved I got to see it at the one Irish screening it looks like it's getting.

And yes, definitely not buying a 3D set for the one film that makes the cursed technology worthwhile :pac:

Mickeroo · 08-12-2014 11:31am

Anyone familiar with Every Frame A Painting on youtube? Might be nothing revelatory for those of you who studied film but for someone like myself who might not pick up on every little detail I find them very interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPAloq5MCUA

There's loads more centered around different films, directors and actors.

ancapailldorcha · 08-12-2014 12:45pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Anyone familiar with Every Frame A Painting on youtube? Might be nothing revelatory for those of you who studied film but for someone like myself who might not pick up on every little detail I find them very interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPAloq5MCUA

There's loads more centered around different films, directors and actors.

Fantastic series. I've only seen the one about Edgar Wright but that was enough to get me interested.

pixelburp · 08-12-2014 12:49pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Anyone familiar with Every Frame A Painting on youtube? Might be nothing revelatory for those of you who studied film but for someone like myself who might not pick up on every little detail I find them very interesting:

There's loads more centered around different films, directors and actors.

Yup, they're an excellent series, as you say they're probably bread & butter to some, but I've found them super-informative: the one on Michael Bay was particularly fascinating given it's not everyday people try to legitimately parse what it is Bay does in his films (and his copycats fail to do). I had been holding off watching the one on Snowpiercer as I had yet to see it and didn't want anything spoiled.

Side note: Snowpiercer was bloody fantastic, and the idea Weinstein wanted to butcher it at all seemed pretty disgraceful.

e_e · 08-12-2014 12:58pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8lQKLjmoWI

This one was excellent.

pixelburp · 09-12-2014 2:50pm

It's quite a detailed article, but below is a fascinating read none the less about the various uses of miniatures in Interstellar's FX: say what you will about Interstellar's narrative, I thought its FX was pretty fantastic, and it's hard not to suggest that was part due to Nolan's preference towards more physical FX work.

http://www.fxguide.com/featured/real-and-raw-the-miniature-fx-behind-interstellar/

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 09-12-2014 3:32pm

pixelburp wrote: »

It's quite a detailed article, but below is a fascinating read none the less about the various uses of miniatures in Interstellar's FX: say what you will about Interstellar's narrative, I thought its FX was pretty fantastic, and it's hard not to suggest that was part due to Nolan's preference towards more physical FX work.

http://www.fxguide.com/featured/real-and-raw-the-miniature-fx-behind-interstellar/

When Anne Hathaway and McConaughey were on Graham Norton they mentioned that there was very little CGI in the film. Hathaway even demonstrated one of the very high tech methods they used to achieve the zero gravity effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqcsCw-O7Qw

charlie_says · 10-12-2014 5:02pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Anyone familiar with Every Frame A Painting on youtube? Might be nothing revelatory for those of you who studied film but for someone like myself who might not pick up on every little detail I find them very interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPAloq5MCUA

There's loads more centered around different films, directors and actors.

Does anyone know the film at 0:46?

10-12-2014 5:07pm

charlie_says wrote: »

Does anyone know the film at 0:46?

It's Alien 3

charlie_says · 10-12-2014 5:13pm

Ah yes now I remember. Decent flick.

e_e · 16-12-2014 8:04pm

20 Great Films You (Probably) Didn't See in 2014

Surprisingly decent list by Empire here.

16-12-2014 8:06pm

Pieces of Talent is one of the finest low budget genre pictures to come along in years and it's director Joe Stauffer has uploaded the film online so that people can watch it for free. Really is a great little film and well worth your time.

e_e · 17-12-2014 12:47pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfq2zblGXw

These Every Frame a Painting videos are so beautifully edited.

tricky D · 18-12-2014 7:59pm

Map: How Hollywood Has Destroyed America

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/map-how-hollywood-has-destroyed-america-1542969906

The Black Oil · 19-12-2014 11:06pm

Every Frame A Painting is great. Has anyone been watching the THR roundtables? I've watched two.

The first is with directors, for once I agree with Youtube comments. The guy moderating is a plonker and interrupts too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xkh982zFm8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVEVotw627I

This one with the studio execs is interesting, with a little corporate BS, naturally. Didn't realise the World Cup was a challenge for them.

OldeCinemaSoz · 20-12-2014 12:57am

Random thought select.

STROLLING by THE CURZON on ABBY ST during
the mid '70s and DRAGGING THE HEELS while viewing
THE FOH STILLS of JUDY'S LITTLE NO-NO.

I always thought I WAS IMAGING THINGS.

e_e · 24-12-2014 1:32am

OldeCinemaSoz · 27-12-2014 12:53am

Peckinpah's CROSS OF IRON was going FOR A SALE there earlier in xtravision. For, like, a FEW BOB.

I thought I MAY ADD THAT. On BLURAY.

charlie_says · 01-01-2015 7:51pm

OldeCinemaSoz wrote: »

Peckinpah's CROSS OF IRON was going FOR A SALE there earlier in xtravision. For, like, a FEW BOB.

I thought I MAY ADD THAT. On BLURAY.

Sir may I congratulate you on your posting style. You are a welcome addition to the film forum.

pixelburp · 05-01-2015 11:09pm

So the figures have been totted up in America, and apparently the number of bums on seats in cinemas is at its lowest in 20 years (though it depresses me to think that only works out as 1994. God I'm old!).

Have there been any equivalent figures released for the UK / Ireland, either backing up or contradicting the Americans figures, and either way: is this a sign that the geography of cinema really is changing? I suspect that the reality is more boring than one simple reason, but I wonder, if the trend continues, what 'cinema' might constitute in another 20 years...

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 06-01-2015 12:47am

There's figures here for the UK.... http://www.cinemauk.org.uk/facts-and-figures/admissions/monthly-uk-cinema-admissions-2006-2013/

They haven't put up December for 2014 yet but up to November it's slightly down on last year. It seems to go up and down a lot though over the years.

charlie_says · 08-01-2015 1:51am

Bad for cinema owners, but isn't the film industry in general world wide making more money than ever before?

johnny_ultimate · 10-01-2015 11:21am

Have a read of this hilarious article, and bear in mind at all times that the website actually has the word 'cinema' in its title: http://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/Critics-10-Best-Movies-Decade-Perfectly-Explains-Why-People-Hate-Critics-69088.html

The best part is where he dismisses a film he hasn't even seen.

e_e · 10-01-2015 11:55am

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Have a read of this hilarious article, and bear in mind at all times that the website actually has the word 'cinema' in its title: http://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/Critics-10-Best-Movies-Decade-Perfectly-Explains-Why-People-Hate-Critics-69088.html

The best part is where he dismisses a film he hasn't even seen.

****ing hell. 10 absolutely brilliant films and the author resorts to the dreaded appeal to popularity and "I haven't seen it therefore....." fallacy.

e_e · 11-01-2015 10:06pm

Anybody else trying to watch a film a day as a new year's resolution?

I'm 11 for 11 so far, and I think that number will go up once JDIFF comes around again.

johnny_ultimate · 22-01-2015 8:12pm

Oh yes, Third Window just announced Kitano's Hana-Bi, Kikujiro and Dolls are coming to Blu-Ray: http://twitchfilm.com/2015/01/third-window-films-uk-announces-stellar-2015-slate-tsukamoto-nagashima-kitano-more-gallery.html

The former two are probably my favourite Kitano joints so I am excite! Remastered with the assistance of Gareth Evans of all people!

Some good new releases too, including World of Kanako (new film from Confessions / Memories of Matsuko director) and their co-funded Fuku-chan of Fukufuku Flats.

Links234 · 22-01-2015 9:31pm

Looking forward to seeing World of Kanako, as I loved Confessions and Kamikaze Girls. Still need to see Memories of Matsuko though.

Film forum off topic/random chat thread

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