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Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

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    #3032
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,439 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Which was said in response to a post that said Carbery was supposedly a ‘better operator’.

    Better operators help win games. Byrne does that, and has done so multiple times in interpros and in Europe. Including a MOTM in a game against Carbery. So yes it’s very relevant comparing how players perform when they play each other. You brought up Sexton v Carbery in Thomond last year. Probably the only time we’ll see them play against each other and Carbery won, most importantly in a game where Sexton lost his head and Carbery kept his.

    No question who the bigger talent is, for what it’s worth.
    Yea but if this was how it worked, the Ireland team would just be the Leinster team.

    In reality, I think the only way of determing if Byrne is better than Carbery for Ireland is for them both to get a go at playing for Ireland. But Byrne needs to show enough to earn that shot ahead of Carbery (who truth be told, got his go at it by default rather than actually really earning it at the time).


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    #3033
    Interested Observer
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    awec wrote: »
    Yea but if this was how it worked, the Ireland team would just be the Leinster team.

    Not a bad idea tbh.


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    #3034
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,439 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Not a bad idea tbh.

    I'd never be back.


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    #3035
    sydthebeat
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    awec wrote: »
    I'd never be back.

    Sure the ulster team is practically all leinster these days

    ;)


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    #3036
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,439 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Sure the ulster team is practically all leinster these days

    ;)

    Leinster by birth, Ulster by the grace of god.


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    #3037
    salmocab
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    awec wrote: »
    Leinster by birth, Ulster by the grace of Nucifora.

    Fixed that for you


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    #3038
    [Deleted User]
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    awec wrote: »
    Leinster by birth, Ulster by the grace of god.

    You sound like someone originally from Cork who grew up in Naas.


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    #3039
    shootermacg
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    Larkham has brought lots of options for his tens. In plenty of plays, you have inside runners, outside runners and out the back options.

    It's incredible what the man has brought in so little time. I see Joey having the time of his life under Larkham.


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    #3040
    shootermacg
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    awec wrote: »
    Leinster by birth, Ulster by the grace of god.

    Ah Lulster! :D


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    #3041
    Clegg
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    shootermacg wrote: »
    Larkham has brought lots of options for his tens. In plenty of plays, you have inside runners, outside runners and out the back options.

    It's incredible what the man has brought in so little time. I see Joey having the time of his life under Larkham.
    It'll be fantastic. Great backs, flowing attacking rugby, minimal depth up front.

    Ladyboy Munster.


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    #3042
    shootermacg
    Registered Users Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Clegg wrote: »
    It'll be fantastic. Great backs, flowing attacking rugby, minimal depth up front.

    Ladyboy Munster.

    WTF has Larkham got to do with the Forwards selection policy?

    That post is just dumb.


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    #3043
    Shefwedfan
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    shootermacg wrote: »
    WTF has Larkham got to do with the Forwards selection policy?

    That post is just dumb.

    I think the post might have been in jest


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    #3044
    shootermacg
    Registered Users Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I think the post might have been in jest

    Hang a smiley on it then, it's not hard.


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    #3045
    Shefwedfan
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    shootermacg wrote: »
    Hang a smiley on it then, it's not hard.

    It wasn’t me who posted the original

    I would have expected the reference to ladyboys was better than a smiley face


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    #3046
    shootermacg
    Registered Users Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It wasn’t me who posted the original

    I would have expected the reference to ladyboys was better than a smiley face

    Are you trying to up your post count or something? Incessant posting about nothing.


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    #3047
    P.Walnuts
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    shootermacg wrote: »
    Are you trying to up your post count or something? Incessant posting about nothing.

    You're the one that took offence from the most obviously jokey, good natured post that could be imagined.

    Think you need a chat with yourself more than anyone else.


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    #3048
    Niallof9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Niallof9


    Van Graan pushin POM for captaincy. Oh dear.



    James Ryan - https://index.rugbypass.com/rpi/six-nations/ireland/james-ryan/

    vs

    POM - https://www.rugbypass.com/six-nations/teams/ireland/players/peter-omahony/statistics/

    Ruddock trending miles ahead as well. https://index.rugbypass.com/rpi/all/all/blindside-flanker/7-days/low-to-high/players/

    I suppose he is on the big bucks and he has a brand and a really angry face, and the patented unseen work. so we'll see. Will really despair if he's named captain.


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    #3049
    Eod100
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    Would hardly be shocking that province coach would be pushing one of his players for captain. Farrell will obviously have final say. Don't get the negativity around POM tbh. Especially when it hasn't even been decided.


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    #3050
    phog
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Would hardly be shocking that province coach would be pushing one of his players for captain. Farrell will obviously have final say. Don't get the negativity around POM tbh. Especially when it hasn't even been decided.

    Usually from people that wouldn't know if a rugby ball was pumped or stuffed.


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    #3051
    Niallof9
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    phog wrote: »
    Usually from people that wouldn't know if a rugby ball was pumped or stuffed.

    :rolleyes:


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    #3052
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,756 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Wthout wishing to stir up the blame game again.
    But I would be interested if anyone can confirm if Enda McNulty was involved or not at the RWC?

    in todays ITimes D'Orce writes

    "The Nucifora Report had too many sound bites and not enough meat on the bones. This only invites conjecture. Without detail people read between the lines and conclude that Nucifora is apportioning blame at the doors of Joe Schmidt and Enda McNulty."

    This is the second time i have seen it written that indicates that he was at RWC with the team.

    Edit:
    just googled it. He was.
    Although he wasnt part of the listed backup team?
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rug...apan-1.4013609


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    #3053
    Squidgy Black
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    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Wthout wishing to stir up the blame game again.
    But I would be interested if anyone can confirm if Enda McNulty was involved or not at the RWC?

    in todays ITimes D'Orce writes

    "The Nucifora Report had too many sound bites and not enough meat on the bones. This only invites conjecture. Without detail people read between the lines and conclude that Nucifora is apportioning blame at the doors of Joe Schmidt and Enda McNulty."

    This is the second time i have seen it written that indicates that he was at RWC with the team.

    Edit:
    just googled it. He was.
    Although he wasnt part of the listed backup team?
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rug...apan-1.4013609

    I think he's brought in on a consultancy basis as opposed to a full time employee for the IRFU.


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    #3054
    Interested Observer
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    I think he's brought in on a consultancy basis as opposed to a full time employee for the IRFU.

    Yeah he runs his own business I'm pretty sure, would have lots of clients, does corporate gigs, etc.



    On POM - hopefully he's not starting come the 6N, never mind captain.


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    #3055
    Shefwedfan
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    It was mentioned on one of the podcast that when Nucifora was asked was he interviewed for the report he replied no

    Now it’s a bit pointless doing a report and not interviewing what I would see as one of the critical figures in the irfu

    I think the “report” is a standard point the finger job at anyone and everyone apart from Nucifora so a bit pointless


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    #3056
    171170
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    Niallof9 wrote: »

    Van Graan pushin POM for captaincy. Oh dear.

    I suppose he is on the big bucks and he has a brand and a really angry face, and the patented unseen work. so we'll see.

    Plus he has an unrivalled record for losing semi-finals and learning from each defeat. That kind of experience is priceless when the chips are down.

    And, before phog interjects, allow me to point out that I am well aware that rugby balls are stuffed.


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    #3057
    leakyboots
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    I get the feeling there is nothing POM could do to satisfy some people on these here boards


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    #3058
    Shefwedfan
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    leakyboots wrote: »
    I get the feeling there is nothing POM could do to satisfy some people on these here boards


    To be fair I think POM has got plenty of positive reviews on boards.


    His dip in form over the last 12 months is clear for everyone to see. This is not just pointed out here....every match at the WC it was mentioned "POM needs a big one today" and it never happened. It was mentioned on podcast, in the press etc.....

    So not sure why people are firing around insults and saying this is a boards issue. If I remember correctly, Wood also recently raised his drop in form.


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    #3059
    171170
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    leakyboots wrote: »
    I get the feeling there is nothing POM could do to satisfy some people on these here boards

    He could retire.


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    #3060
    Shefwedfan
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    The more I think about the Sexton injury, if confirmed, could be a blessing in disguise. It will force an alternative to play, hopefully Carbery but someone else if he is not fit


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    #3061
    molloyjh
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    leakyboots wrote: »
    I get the feeling there is nothing POM could do to satisfy some people on these here boards

    To be fair, his form this calendar year has been pretty poor. I was happy to go with the POFM thing this time last year when he'd been awesome in 2018, but it just hasn't happened for him in 2019. We need to be able to call out guys who are out of form regardless of province. For example, Furlong has been a pale shadow of his former self for most of the year too leading to Porter rightfully starting last week for Leinster.


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