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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    You should be able to get rid of it outside the ticket office on Dorset St if it's open on Sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    You should be able to get rid of it outside the ticket office on Dorset St if it's open on Sunday

    Anyway of knowing if it will be open?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Anyway of knowing if it will be open?
    You could ring Parnell Park, they might know 01-8312099


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    You could ring Parnell Park, they might know 01-8312099

    Cheers thanks! Sure if it comes to it I'll bring me son! Was gonna wait another year or two but he's 5 should be grand!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Bret Hart




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    I'd be getting seriously worried if I was Dean Rock.

    Have a feeling neither Davy Byrne or MDMA will start.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    I'd be getting seriously worried if I was Dean Rock.

    Fair play to Costello, talk about seizing the opportunity when it comes along. If you told me that Costello would be keeping Rock out a year ago I'd have laughed at you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Looking at numbers 8 to 15 I have to wonder what they would do to Kerry if they get the chances Cork got last night


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Edgware wrote: »
    Looking at numbers 8 to 15 I have to wonder what they would do to Kerry if they get the chances Cork got last night

    Kerry couldn't be that bad defensively again, could they? Surely they'd play a different system if we came up against them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Costello can kick frees and is more effective from play. Other forwards are playing out of their skin and all fulfilling different roles, with Kilkenny having had to adapt too. Hard to see where Rock will work his way back in.

    As for Kerry, said it before: don't regard them as one of the main threats and are likely to be in the toughest 8's group so might not make it out again.

    There has been a lot of talk about them, mainly around Clifford and some of the younger ones but none of the replacements for the likes of Cooper, Donaghy, the Ó Sés Galvin, O'Sullivans are anywhere near that standard. they might come to be but no evidence they will, and not this year.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Think HQ need to think of something to ressurect the attendances. The comparison over the past 5 years is shocking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    CatInABox wrote: »
    Fair play to Costello, talk about seizing the opportunity when it comes along. If you told me that Costello would be keeping Rock out a year ago I'd have laughed at you.

    Can't argue with that, but Deano may have a role to play yet & a big one at that. If we're to go all the way to the final, we've 6 games to go, including today. Given his terrible history with injuries, the odds of CC starting - never mind finishing - them all wouldn't be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Can't argue with that, but Deano may have a role to play yet & a big one at that. If we're to go all the way to the final, we've 6 games to go, including today. Given his terrible history with injuries, the odds of CC starting - never mind finishing - them all wouldn't be great.
    I'd still have Rock in and taking frees at the business end of the championship. Costello's done well on them so far but we haven't seen him take a high pressure 40-45m one yet. Rock has proven he's clutch on frees when a game is there to be won or lost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    CatInABox wrote: »
    Kerry couldn't be that bad defensively again, could they? Surely they'd play a different system if we came up against them.
    Well they didnt learn from the League Final. Mayo put three in the net.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    I'd still have Rock in and taking frees at the business end of the championship. Costello's done well on them so far but we haven't seen him take a high pressure 40-45m one yet. Rock has proven he's clutch on frees when a game is there to be won or lost

    How many 40m frees & 45's do we actually kick during the course of a game?

    Maybe Jim Gavin's mindset is that CC is more of an overall scoring threat from play, so he's willing to take the hit on the long range frees?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    I'd still have Rock in and taking frees at the business end of the championship. Costello's done well on them so far but we haven't seen him take a high pressure 40-45m one yet. Rock has proven he's clutch on frees when a game is there to be won or lost

    I assume Rock will get game-time later in games and that is when the pressure frees will be.
    Costello offers way more from general play and his high energy style is infectious, lifts the crowd the way he can skin opponents and take a score.

    It will be interesting to see what decision Gavin makes on it, because I doubt he will start both lads.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Costello can kick frees and is more effective from play. Other forwards are playing out of their skin and all fulfilling different roles, with Kilkenny having had to adapt too. Hard to see where Rock will work his way back in.

    As for Kerry, said it before: don't regard them as one of the main threats and are likely to be in the toughest 8's group so might not make it out again.

    There has been a lot of talk about them, mainly around Clifford and some of the younger ones but none of the replacements for the likes of Cooper, Donaghy, the Ó Sés Galvin, O'Sullivans are anywhere near that standard. they might come to be but no evidence they will, and not this year.

    The only way I can describe how Kerry look is 'minor-ish'. They look very loose altogether.
    Donegal are the only team who look capable of stopping Dublin now.
    They look to have a real handy side.
    I still have nightmares over that Christy Toye fella in 2014!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Edgware wrote:
    Well they didnt learn from the League Final. Mayo put three in the net.

    Yeah, it's a hard one , took ages to stop the ball going inside, but they kind it did by the end. B Hurley going off was a strange call since he's a goal threat, kerry brought Mark Griffin on after B Hurley went off , possibly got that the wrong way around.


    Cork kind of dropped their heads after their third goal and didn't try to kick on, they had the momentum but just handed it to Kerry rather than Kerry taking it, that's an over simplification of it but it had a bit of that vibe in it, Cork didn't really go for it for that 5 or 10 minutes then popped up again.


    But kerry only had 14 men. Cork let kerry off IMO, it was a big opportunity for them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    This is a hard watch, outside the fact I'm soaked but this is poor in general.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Thank Christ that is over.

    Serious coddle weather out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Bret Hart


    Another Leinster Final,and another Delaney Cup.That's number 58 and with it being our 9th in a row,that sets a record for most provincial titles on the spin,I think ? How serious looking was Jamesy and P Small injuries ?

    Apart from the miss goal chance in the end,Deano was superb when he came off the bench for Howard.

    You'll never get tired of putting that lot back in there box :D

    More drink Waheeeeey!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,151 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Bret Hart wrote: »
    Another Leinster Final,and another Delaney Cup.That's number 58 and with it being our 9th in a row,that sets a record for most provincial titles on the spin,I think ? How serious looking was Jamesy and P Small injuries ?

    Apart from the miss goal chance in the end,Deano was superb when he came off the bench for Howard.

    You'll never get tired of putting that lot back in there box :D

    More drink Waheeeeey!!

    Had to watch it at home today unfortunately. From the TV replays I'd say McCarthy is gone for the season. Nobody near him and he went down holding his knee. That's usually the sign of a season ended unfortunately.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭cyclocross!


    JRant wrote: »
    Had to watch it at home today unfortunately. From the TV replays I'd say McCarthy is gone for the season. Nobody near him and he went down holding his knee. That's usually the sign of a season ended unfortunately.

    Looked from the stand that they were testing for knee ligament damage. Did not look good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Might as well have my 10,000 post to honor 9 in a row!

    The class really showed in that second half especially in that weather. Some great points and very well taken goal by Con.

    Hopefully the two injuries are not very serious.

    Roll on the super 8s hope to god the weather improves. Going home soaked during summer is no fun! Ah well it was worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    Why did the ref only stop play once the Meath attack finished?

    Once ok, but it got old very quickly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,828 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    JRant wrote: »
    Had to watch it at home today unfortunately. From the TV replays I'd say McCarthy is gone for the season. Nobody near him and he went down holding his knee. That's usually the sign of a season ended unfortunately.


    Yes didn’t look great for him unfortunately. Wait to hear the deal on that but I am a bit nervous now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I was hoping to keep that shower scoreless.... I suppose four will have to do.
    I enjoyed it anyway, there were nice patterns of play and they had to break down a Meath team, on a dirty day who were digging in the trenches.
    If Meath could finish or shoot it might have got slightly worrying.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,828 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    What I absolutely love about this team...and it’s a fûcking huge credit to Jim Gavin, his coaching team and the players themselves...that in that last 10 minutes, that when the game was over, 15 points or whatever, the Dublin players are chasing back, putting in intense tackles, bodies still on the line, not for one millisecond allowing even a half easy score or even chance materialize, like there’d be some sort of embarrassment involved in Meath scoring 5 and 4 was 4 too many, super attitude and execution of a game plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Strumms wrote: »
    What I absolutely love about this team...and it’s a fûcking huge credit to Jim Gavin, his coaching team and the players themselves...that in that last 10 minutes, that when the game was over, 15 points or whatever, the Dublin players are chasing back, putting in intense tackles, bodies still on the line, not for one millisecond allowing even a half easy score or even chance materialize, like there’d be some sort of embarrassment involved in Meath scoring 5 and 4 was 4 too many, super attitude and execution of a game plan.

    Exactly they are just non-stop thinking of angles and passes etc
    But the bit I am amazed with you never hear of any rows/splits in the camp/egos.
    For example it would have been easy for Rock to be sulky today
    But jayus he was great in his cameo.
    He really showed he wanted his place back.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Don't know what to think of that game. It was brutal. Obviously conditions didn't help. Didn't seem to be much of an atmosphere, and from what I could see on telly there wasn't too many Meath supporters. Probably a few factors contributed to that.

    They set up extremely defensively and made us work hard for our chances. Our forwards were kept pretty quiet I thought. Scully and Costello couldn't hold a ball. Rock did well when he came on. And hopefully McCarthys injury isn't as bad as well as think, but when you pull up like that it's generally not a good sign.

    Meath kicked a lot of wides. We've loads to work on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Strumms wrote: »
    What I absolutely love about this team...and it’s a fûcking huge credit to Jim Gavin, his coaching team and the players themselves...that in that last 10 minutes, that when the game was over, 15 points or whatever, the Dublin players are chasing back, putting in intense tackles, bodies still on the line, not for one millisecond allowing even a half easy score or even chance materialize, like there’d be some sort of embarrassment involved in Meath scoring 5 and 4 was 4 too many, super attitude and execution of a game plan.

    True. I'd say its a high priority to never display weakness to the opposition in any game.

    Meath had enough of the game to make that a real contest. Saw on the big screen that chances from play were almost equal. They won plenty of ball around the middle too. Their wides were horrendous though.

    Cian O'Sullivan should have been MOTM. His attitude to the game is second to none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    First game in 8's is against Roscommon is it not?

    Nearly sure that Sunday Game graphic had it as against Cork/round 4 winner.

    Kerry are definitely are home to Donegal. Interestingly PP has that as a pick 'em.

    I'd fancy Donegal for that and shall wet my beak accordingly :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    No all provincial champions at home for first game in super 8s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    No all provincial champions at home for first game in super 8s


    Right. I see that now. Bookies only have the games they know are taking place, which are Kerry/Donegal and Dubs/Rossies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,214 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    My sadness continues folks.

    Our team that is on the brink of greatness is being derided by aspects of the media and the oul keyboard warrior crusade. My own experience today outside the pale:D was very poor. Apparently Dublin received 17 million euro in funding over the last year.:rolleyes: I've given up even trying to argue any BS point anymore. I'm sick and tired listening to ManU, Liverpool supporters etc. from other counties, being nastie fookers towards Dublin. I've given up trying to tell them that this game, no matter what, is Irish and Irish only and we should be proud to see a team like Dublin reach a potential historic marker within it.

    Sorry for the negativity.


  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    My sadness continues folks.

    Our team that is on the brink of greatness is being derided by aspects of the media and the oul keyboard warrior crusade. My own experience today outside the pale:D was very poor. Apparently Dublin received 17 million euro in funding over the last year.:rolleyes: I've given up even trying to argue any BS point anymore. I'm sick and tired listening to ManU, Liverpool supporters etc. from other counties, being nastie fookers towards Dublin. I've given up trying to tell them that this game, no matter what, is Irish and Irish only and we should be proud to see a team like Dublin reach a potential historic marker within it.

    Sorry for the negativity.

    It’s because the game was at Croke Park, actually no the bigger population, actually it’s the money...

    All those things caused Meath to kick about 14 wides


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    It’s because the game was at Croke Park, actually no the bigger population, actually it’s the money...

    All those things caused Meath to kick about 14 wides

    It was ONLY 12 wides...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    My sadness continues folks.

    Our team that is on the brink of greatness is being derided by aspects of the media and the oul keyboard warrior crusade. My own experience today outside the pale:D was very poor. Apparently Dublin received 17 million euro in funding over the last year.:rolleyes: I've given up even trying to argue any BS point anymore. I'm sick and tired listening to ManU, Liverpool supporters etc. from other counties, being nastie fookers towards Dublin. I've given up trying to tell them that this game, no matter what, is Irish and Irish only and we should be proud to see a team like Dublin reach a potential historic marker within it.

    Sorry for the negativity.

    If you think it is bad now.
    Just wait until the Dublin hurlers start putting it up to the 'traditional counties' regularly, then winning Liam McCarthy that is when the real fun will start.... :D

    Oh and I always refer the misguided to two books -
    1. Gaaconomics by Michael Moyinhan

    2. Dublin: The Chaos Years: How the Dubs Made a Mess of Things for So Long – and How They Turned It Around by Neil Cotter

    Tell them to read those since they are so interested in Dublin and the finances of the GAA.
    It will surprise them.
    Shatters a lot of myths.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,151 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I was also really impressed with the tactical changes made by Gavin at halftime. We stopped playing long foot passes into the forwards as the ball was like a bar of soap and opened up meath with clever hand passing instead, which is way more forgiving to an incoming forward.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,214 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    If you think it is bad now.
    Just wait until the Dublin hurlers start putting it up to the 'traditional counties' regularly, then winning Liam McCarthy that is when the real fun will start.... :D

    Oh and I always refer the misguided to two books -
    1. Gaaconomics by Michael Moyinhan

    2. Dublin: The Chaos Years: How the Dubs Made a Mess of Things for So Long – and How They Turned It Around by Neil Cotter

    Tell them to read those since they are so interested in Dublin and the finances of the GAA.
    It will surprise them.
    Shatters a lot of myths.

    I've read both. Makes me even sadder when listening to the bitter types.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    JRant wrote: »
    I was also really impressed with the tactical changes made by Gavin at halftime. We stopped playing long foot passes into the forwards as the ball was like a bar of soap and opened up meath with clever hand passing instead, which is way more forgiving to an incoming forward.

    Colm Parkinson was on about that on Twitter. He contends that its better to give Dublin the kick pass option because their efficiency goes up if they move it through the hands. I think the man is a sap but he might have a point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    I've read both. Makes me even sadder when listening to the bitter types.

    Ah sure, the GAA would not be the GAA without the begrudgers. :p

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    My sadness continues folks.

    Our team that is on the brink of greatness is being derided by aspects of the media and the oul keyboard warrior crusade. My own experience today outside the pale:D was very poor. Apparently Dublin received 17 million euro in funding over the last year.:rolleyes: I've given up even trying to argue any BS point anymore. I'm sick and tired listening to ManU, Liverpool supporters etc. from other counties, being nastie fookers towards Dublin. I've given up trying to tell them that this game, no matter what, is Irish and Irish only and we should be proud to see a team like Dublin reach a potential historic marker within it.

    Sorry for the negativity.

    Its fashionable don't you know.

    Some might hope that Ewan MacKenna would be eaten by a Green Anaconda, but I doubt snakes eat other green eyed monsters.

    Gavin Cummiskey is just as bad and needs to be tackled. But again whats the point. Even the rugger lads dont respect him.

    Celebrate everything! No one gave a shít about the Dubs in the wilderness years when the fans were still propping up the numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    corny wrote: »
    Colm Parkinson was on about that on Twitter. He contends that its better to give Dublin the kick pass option because their efficiency goes up if they move it through the hands. I think the man is a sap but he might have a point.



    Hand passing is more efficient because you are less likely to lose possession but it is the accuracy and use of kick pass that makes Dublin so formidable.

    Watching the Ulster final today, it was Donegal's use of foot pass and speed of counter attack was key point in their hammering a very limited unimaginative team who might beat dull defensive teams but are light years away from the top of the tree,

    Same applies to Woolie's own county.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,383 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Enjoyed the day out today in Croke Park, along with over 47,000 other people, the biggest crowd of the summer so far.

    Lucky enough to be well under the stand and dry, but thought it was good entertainment. Some great effort from Meath in the first half, some great scoring from Dublin in the second half.

    This is really only Meath's first year, you can see some elements of the Sean Boylan playbook being used, a year in Division 1 will see them do a lot better next year.

    Onwards and upwards for the GOAT, 9 provincial championships in a row, on top of 4 All-Irelands tells you it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Enjoyed the day out today in Croke Park, along with over 47,000 other people, the biggest crowd of the summer so far.

    Lucky enough to be well under the stand and dry, but thought it was good entertainment. Some great effort from Meath in the first half, some great scoring from Dublin in the second half.

    This is really only Meath's first year, you can see some elements of the Sean Boylan playbook being used, a year in Division 1 will see them do a lot better next year.

    Onwards and upwards for the GOAT, 9 provincial championships in a row, on top of 4 All-Irelands tells you it all.

    I just watched the Sunday Game - Tomas O'Se said it was over an hour of his life he won't get back....

    I found that gas because like you. I thought it was a decent enough game considering the conditions, and the gap in standard between the sides.
    It was about a 50 minute ish competitive game when you think about it.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,383 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I just watched the Sunday Game - Tomas O'Se said it was over an hour of his life he won't get back....

    I found that gas because like you are thought it was a decent enough game considering the conditions, and the gap in standard between the sides.
    It was about a 50 minute ish competitive game when you think about it.


    Meath showed how to take on Dublin, go man-to-man, pressurise all the time, fight for every ball, show some Sean Boylan/Mickey Harte rotational fouling cynicism, they just weren't good enough up front to take their scores, and Dublin were just too good for them.

    This Dublin are the GOAT, but they are not unbeatable. However, it seems that teams are now afraid to take them on. Maybe Kerry or Donegal will give them a game, but that will be an All-Ireland semi at the earliest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,912 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Meath showed how to take on Dublin, go man-to-man, pressurise all the time, fight for every ball, show some Sean Boylan/Mickey Harte rotational fouling cynicism, they just weren't good enough up front to take their scores, and Dublin were just too good for them.

    This Dublin are the GOAT, but they are not unbeatable. However, it seems that teams are now afraid to take them on. Maybe Kerry or Donegal will give them a game, but that will be an All-Ireland semi at the earliest.

    Donegal seem to have a real swagger about them as well.
    I am starting to worry already about them.
    Kerry are all mouth and no b0llocks.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Donegal seem to have a real swagger about them as well.
    I am starting to worry already about them.
    Kerry are all mouth and no b0llocks.

    ...all fart and no shíte!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    I think the weather had a huge part to play in how the game went down.

    Players slipping all over the place simple passes going a stray balls being dropped. Meath looked very cautious in going forward almost reluctant at times. The amount of times they got towards the other end of the pitch and turned around.

    Dublin are obviously much better on the ball but the weather clearly affected there game as well you could see they had to feel there way into the game.

    If that penalty goes in you have a different first half that doesn't end up being as close as it seemed. In general though the rain made the first half what it was.

    The second half Dublin adapted much better to the weather and pushed on. Meath went backwards even more so the more they missed the more Dublin pushed forward.

    Dublin started to win a lot more the ball in the middle Macauly and Fenton especially Meath where long gone at that stage.

    The key to the game was the better team adapted to the conditions and took advantage. Some of points Dublin kicked on a day like today where brilliant.


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