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Hades (PC and Switch)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭friend and foe


    brady12 wrote: »
    Thanks . Managed to pick up a copy randomly yesterday in GameStop castlebar !

    nice one, enjoy! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭friend and foe


    Hades is up for preorder on ps store, €24.99 releasing 13/8

    https://store.playstation.com/en-ie/product/EP4484-PPSA03711_00-3235764131417729


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    This is also coming free on Xbox game pass, so well worth a shout for anyone on the fence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭DarC_Kn1ght


    Just about to play this for the first time on PS5. Any 'must know' tips? Or just dive in blind?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Dive in blind, it’s all very self-explanatory :)

    Experiment with weapons and builds. There’s an endless amount of possible combinations so figure out the particular approach that really suits you. And embrace what the RNG gods have to offer you!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Just go for it. It's very newbie friendly and leads you by the hand before leaving you to it; what each door icon means left me a little confused at the start but quickly figured it out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah it doesn't take long to figure out most of what's going on.

    Have done about 15 or so runs by now. Can make it past Maghera and a few rooms in the second area. Still just trying to find which weapons/abilities I prefer, leaning towards spear as the weapon anyway. Really enjoying the game so far though. The combat is fun and the presentation is top-notch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    Had Hades down to last hit there. Fired an arrow and he hit me before it hit him. I could have cried. Had a decent cast build going with Bow and aspect of Hera. Think Hades and me need some time apart



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I'm thoroughly enjoying this on PS5. I've about 30 runs done, and have only managed to get to the boss is Elysium twice. Nearly got it both times, but having no health regen/potions is tough! Loved his little quip on that fact too. But what I can't get over is that every single character I've spoken to (before every single run) has yet to repeat a single thing. And references to the past run. There's a lot of time and effort put into this game, and I reckon it definitely sets a new standard for roguelikes, especially from a narrative/story point of view.

    There really should be a warning or something about the Titan blood. I had used one before I had realised how rare they can be, and indeed after Googling how to get them, one needs to be careful with where you put them! Aside from that, I don't have a single complaint. Some weapons are better than others, but I reckon that's also a matter of just getting used to each one. I've been swapping as the dark bonus changes from weapon to weapon, but I'm definitely leaning towards the spear or gun.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It's the first game in a long while I found myself invested emotionally in its cast. A really eclectic, engaging set of characters and that even Zagreus is the same deserves singular praise. There were a dozen ways he could have come across the edgelord douche, but instead is a genuine, decent guy you want to succeed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    On the magic mirror where you level up various abilities, theres a toggle to give you further options - theres one called 'dark drinker' where picking up the purple crystals gives health, and these are much more frequent than finding food from urns etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    Finally managed to escape Hades. Used bow with aspect of Hera. Down to a sliver of health in the final fight but got the last shot in this time. Got lucky with a good duo boon in the last area that helped. Great ending for a rogue like, was not expecting that much from it but its really well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Last night I unlocked further upgrades at the mirror and ended up respeccing for the permanent health increase, which has definitely opened up new opportunities for my build. Will have to reassess everything else now.

    Have only made it as far as the second boss. Thought I was doing well until I realised I'd only taken just over half his health. That's a tough fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Finding that buff that gives you a deflect when dashing is a god send for the second boss! Especially in part 3. I was looking at that Dark Drinker, I think I may have to give that a go. I'm too headfirst to be able to manage health properly!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    Athena dash is great, saved me in my first clear. Hermes has some boons that give extra dashes. Just finished a run there and got a Hermes boon that also restores 50% of damage taken when you dash which made me really tanky. There's also a Duo Boon called Stubborn Roots that restores health every second when you have no death defiance's left and is a huge boost to the point of being a bit broken.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭nullObjects


    Just got this myself, seem to be having a lot more success with the bow because I find it easier to dodge damage.

    Will go back to the sword when I level up my health

    Someone recommended to use God mode til I level up, does that limit rewards or anything?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    See how you get on without God Mode. You'll get better boons and things get easier through mirror upgrades as you go. I think it gives you a 20% reduction to damage taken and scales up a couple of percent on each unsuccessful run. Dont believe there are any other penalties. Depends on how long you've played/ how far you got. I was tempted after the 3rd defeat to final boss but I got him without it on the next encounter. Its good to have though as an option and they've implemented it well.


    I think if you use it until you feel your getting stronger you might negate that feeling of progress once you turn it off as enemies will hit 20% or more harder once you turn it off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Wait.... what the f*ck is God Mode?!

    Have gotten to the end of the third area. Got the boss down to about 20% health first try but couldn't withstand the attacks. Real shame too because I had an awesome setup. I nearly wish you could change weapons between areas, but probably make things too easy.

    Athena's dash/deflect seems an absolute must. Spear with Athena's dash, Ares'/Dionysus' cast and Zeus' special is how I've been trying to go so far.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    IIRC in the game options, there's God Mode which is as it sounds, making you much stronger... useful if you just want to enjoy the story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Ah, didn't cop it at all. Kinda seems like it'd hurt the story more, as talking to everyone each time you die really opens up their characters more.

    Although you probably still die a fair bit on God Mode anyway, so maybe it's not too bad. I'll leave it alone at this stage anyway.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    God Mode’s a bit more complicated than that. It gives you a boost right off the bat, but then gives the player additional boosts each time they die. So these can stack steadily to make you more damage resistant. It can then be turned off whenever the player wants.

    It’s basically the game’s take on an easy mode: easing the difficulty curve without taking away the player’s sense of getting stronger with each run. Quite a clever way of implementing it IMO rather than making them immediately superpowered, while also ensuring the story structure stays intact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    If you encounter the bosses buddy during the 3rd area before you get to the boss at the end when there's 2 of them, the buddy will have much less health and it'll be easier to focus on him and take him out of the equation. Its still a really tough fight though.


    Sorry if that's a bit vague, trying to avoid spoilers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    No I totally get you. The buddy absolutely crushed me when I met him alone. When in the actual boss battle I probably focused too much on the buddy, whereas his attacks are easier to dodge so I should probably focus on t'other guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭DarC_Kn1ght


    "God Mode” is a toggle in the settings menu that you can turn on or off at any time during gameplay. Turning it on gives 20% extra damage reduction to Zagreus during gameplay, with the reduction increasing by 2% each time you fail a run with God Mode enabled, up to a cap of 80% reduction. The setting doesn’t affect any other aspect of gameplay, only adds damage reduction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    The Key to success in Hades, was foretold by the might prophets.


    S club, they're gonna show you how....


    joking aside, if you can get a few attacks that do damage on dodge - Ares has one that unleases a blade thing, you can sort of passively inflict damage over time by striking and dodging immediately after. The action can get hard to follow if the screen gets overly cluttered with stuff, but its a tactic that has served me well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Have gotten to (what I presume is) the final boss a few times now. That one's going to take some work.

    Goddamn second phase surprised me when I was on my last sliver of health. Didn't stand a chance then. That was the closest I got to beating him. If there's a third phase then I'd rather just stay in Hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭nullObjects


    Each time you fail it gives +1% damage resistance

    I'm almost up to 50% 😅

    There's an upgrade that lets you switch the item you can equip between areas by the way

    edit - ah bugger sorry, for some reason the last page of replies didn't load when I opened the page.

    I'm well behind the discussion now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭nullObjects


    What I normally do is try to grab a cast upgrade that gives it an area of effect, then I toss that into the middle while I run around in circles on the outside and chip away at their health. When the bull chases after me then I run through the middle to pick back up the casts, land a hit or two and start again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah I can beat them consistently enough now. AoE damages by cast or dash works well for me, jump in, do AoE and dash back out. I try take out the spear guy first as I think the bull's attacks are easier to dodge as time goes on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    He's a tough fight. I found once I got to him the first time I had a decent idea on good builds and could get to him again on most runs. Beat him third time I think. Once your used to his patterns after a couple of losses he's not as intimidating. Shield is good for him, you can defend all his attacks with it so positioning isn't as much of an issue. Once attack is defended you can rush in and get a few hits and leg it again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭DarC_Kn1ght


    If I'm not playing hades I'm thinking about it. Terrific game. Now to go for the platinum 🏆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Gotta love when a run starts off poorly and you think this isn't going to be the run where I beat it, and then turns out it is. Finally beat him.

    Hell of a game. Really just tremendous in every sense, one of the best designed games I think I've ever played. Everything works in such an incredible harmony. Excited to start focusing on some of the other weapons and see how that changes things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    Fair play. What weapon did you beat him with? I've had a few runs like that where your losing interest and your build isn't coming together and then you get a killer boon in the last area and get an escape. Love how the did the ending, wasn't expecting that kind of quality from a rogue like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Spear, infused with titan blood (the version where your special makes you dash to the spear and do extra damage for a few hits). Spear was definitely my go-to throughout. Decent damage but still good range to stay out of harms way.

    Athena's attack and dash deflects, Dionysius' cast (put a good few poms into powering it up) and Demeter's call (with upgrades to mean my meter increased more when taking damage so I could use it more often) were most of what I ended up with for the final fight, as well as the usual hammer and chaos boons. Think I had an extra dash from Hermes, weak-infused attack from Aphrodite and revenge damage from Ares too. Ended up being a pretty solid build even though at the start I was getting nothing but darkness and gemstones. Plus found the item in the last area on second try and didn't feel the need to take the chance on some of the other tunnels so that helped a lot.

    Interested to try the shield or the bow next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    You can get a great cast build going on the bow with Aspect of Hera. You load all your casts into your bow and fire them all at once. Works really well with dionysus or poseidon cast. If you get the hammer upgrade that let's you fire bow without charging the shot you get instant nukes at the tap of a button. Its a fun build



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭nullObjects


    Exact same happened me. Just beat the final boss for the first time after failing a good few times

    Had the shield and was taking a lot of damage but got the ice (/frost?) cast that lets you put down a crystal that fires into an area.

    Just ran around hiding and planting them everywhere :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,551 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    There's a third phase if you stack the punishments high enough. Possibly a 4th, can't remember exactly.


    From what I've seen, I think Aphrodite's cast and special attack do the greatest single burst damage.


    Still trying to work thru unlocking the hidden aspects.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Have now completed the game with spear, shield (though was on my last sliver of health), sword and fists. I tried the bow but was disappointed. Feels very slow and hard to stunlock enemies. I'm sure with the right upgrades it can probably do serious damage, but I'm just more of a jump in, attack, jump out kind of player.

    Also "borrowed" money from Charon on one of my trips last night. That was a nice surprise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,403 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Every time im forced to use the gun, i always look for the triple shot/ no reload option.


    Still in love with the bow and Sword, Shield is fun but never seem to get passed Elysium with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Started this last week with GamePass and loving it. Have all the weapons unlocked but stuck at the third boss now but I'll get past them.

    I read you can upgrade your weapons but how do you do that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Once you've unlocked all weapons and then done another run (even if you die in it), the next time you go to the weapons, stand in front of whichever one you have equipped and you should be able to get an R1/RB prompt to inspect or unlock. Then you use Titan Blood to unlock different weapon aspects.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Cheers, had done a few runs since I unlocked the last weapon but hadn't actually swapped weapon since so never noticed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭nullObjects


    I think the Skelly guy gives you an audio cue but you might not notice if you're throwing a few swipes at him :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Just be wary, Titan Blood is hard to come buy, you get 1 for defeating the first boss with each weapon, and then none until you do something after endgame, and beat the first boss with each weapon again. Or something. You can also buy it for Ambrosia, but I've no idea if I should do that, internet says no.

    I've gotten to the final boss with nearly each weapon, and nearly killed him with the Shield and Fists, can't get past Elysium with the Sword. But I swap each time so I'm not getting too used to each one, keeps it fresh. I'm so close, yet so far. Tartatus is a breeze now, Asphodel not too bad, Elysium can be tricky and goddam that poison!!! Still loving it. 40 runs so far iirc. Can't believe I'm still getting new conversations, but the boons are starting to repeat, which is fair enough.

    Without spoiling, is the ending the first time the ending, or is there a "true" ending? While I can see myself beating it, I'm not usually one to play over and over again unless there's something definitely worth it, and usually these roguelikes get way too hard to get the proper ending...



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The proper, true ending does not happen the first time you beat the game. That said, the true ending isn't locked behind any kind of crazy difficulty or anything like that: if you beat it once, you're more than capable of getting the true ending, it just means playing the game more (not a bad proposition given how great Hades is to play). All the crazy hard difficulty stuff is entirely optional.

    TBH one of the things I like about Hades is how generous it is in giving you options to hop off. Happy to just finish once and be done? Well it's not like there's a whole bunch of secret levels or anything you'll be missing out on. Want more? The road to the true ending gives you much more story and room to play around with the weapons and upgrades. Want even more? There's a bunch of entirely option post-game epilogue stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    That's the job. I like that, I do appreciate there are people out there who want mad craziness like the speed runs in Dead Cells, Hollow Knights, etc, but I'm happy to know that I can get the full story without being that punishing to myself. I haven't played any of Supergiants previous games, but they're up near the top of my rader for future releases, and I'll try to play their previous ones once I've finished with Hades. I'm astounded by how perfectly everything in this game works together, even if it's not your type of game, it's pretty much perfectly crafted.



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Been playing this lately too and loving it. Have mostly used the spear, seems to be the easiest weapon to use. Beat the game on my 25th run or so I think(3rd attempt on last boss) but not really come close since. Had a crazy good build that run though, 350 health, 4 death defies and a legendary boon from athena that made me impenetrable until someone managed to hit me on a seven second cool down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,226 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah I beat the game once after maybe 25-30 tries, then failed a few times after that. But I started getting into a good flow and ended up with a 7-win streak, beating it with each weapon and a few of the Heat levels.

    Wasn't sure about endgame content but google tells me I'm probably just one or two more wins off unlocking the true ending and more endgame content. Might dip back into it at the weekend just for the true ending.

    Once you pick which boons best suit your gameplay and focus on that, you can get into a pretty good rhythm. I had my own strategy I'd stick to in terms of keepsakes or which boons/upgrades to prioritise and when, but the beauty of the game is that there's really no one viable strategy over another. Whatever strategy you favour is viable and the best one for you.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Yes, I Was surprised how relatively straightforward the "true" ending was. No tricks, no nonsense about having to stand by a particular pot plant on a Tuesday; just a little extra grind - which wasn't a bad ask given Hades is such a joy to play, with there always being some new lines of dialogue to enjoy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Fricken Hades! Thought I had it last night, had my most powerful build, flew through the first area, and by the time I was at Elysium I had the fists with deflect attack, deflect special and deflect dash, and Ares cast with 80% size and pull and Zeus' call.l. I murdered the lads in Elysium without barely taking damage, and got to the second stage without losing health, but he decimated me in the second stage... I even had the Acorn and death save and still got mullered.

    God mode is looking at me, but I'm so close...



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