Dairy farm worker

Mortelaro wrote: »

If he's good,I'd give him €80 to €100 net including meals
The higher rate if he's really good
Depending on age and ability

Things are gone mad if a school kid should get €100 /day and be fed no wonder they are all walking the road

12 hours a day? What age is he? If you're an employer then make sure your compliant with the maximum number of working hours for young people, here's a guideline:

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/starting_work_and_changing_job/young_people_at_work/rights_of_young_workers.html#:~:text=The%20maximum%20working%20week%20for%20young%20people%20aged%2016%20and,work%20between%206am%20and%2010pm.

Mrtm17 wrote: »

Surely ud want to be taking home 600 a week after tax?

For what hours?

Not the case everywhere but the amount of cash work going around in the construction industry is ridiculous as well, an area that could well do with being clamped down on

Genuinely though....with any time worked over the 39 hours, it could still run to 600 a week..

ruwithme wrote: »

poorer than it was pre covid I'd say. have noticed alot of lads advertising themselves available for work on donedeal with a focus on dairying in recent months.
€10 ahour nett if your familiar with dairy farming and thats with someone who knows the value of another's labour.

Is it really that low? thats mimimum wage, be better of in a tesco at that rate

Ya starting out its low paid, but there is opportunities now to herd share or maybe rent your own place. Would I advise my own kids to do it, No way you would be mad.

kerryjack wrote: »

Ya starting out its low paid, but there is opportunities now to herd share or maybe rent your own place. Would I advise my own kids to do it, No way you would be mad.

Herd shares are few and far between in Ireland. Tax free leasing is too attractive. This catches you again leasing as people leasing longterm pay the PRSI and USC if applicable whether rentis received or not. Therefore they tend to lease to established farm businesses. I never see working for a minimum wage in any industry as a chance to advance significantly in that industry

Jjameson wrote: »

Speaking anecdotally in my own part of the country the guys looking for full time help are always looking for full time help as nobody stays with them. Wages, hours and the expectation to be as motivated as the farmer (who always has his eye on his neighbours acre! Or a new machine or whatever gives him his endorphin rush!)

I think this is the nub if it. A farmer that does not drink or smoke, works 70-100 hours a week expect Joe Soap who is a minimum paid worker to not take a smoking break not to arrive hung over in the morning, not to take it easy going to bring in the cows or mending that fence. He expecting to get a lads who's a good unskilled worker, but that lad is working for Jimmy the builder or plant hire man for 13-15 euro/your.

My son who is in college was getting 10.5/ hour part time in a pub restaurant and if he had been fulltime he be on 12/hour or more. He be getting 30-40/week in tips if fulltime as well. With tip that is 11.5/hour net. That person is in out of the cd and wet. He is not in a freezing cold milking parlour in February and March. Every evening he comes home he is not rushing into the shower. He is not getting into cold damp clothes every morning for 3-4 months of the year.

Jjameson wrote: »

Speaking anecdotally in my own part of the country the guys looking for full time help are always looking for full time help as nobody stays with them. Wages, hours and the expectation to be as motivated as the farmer (who always has his eye on his neighbours acre! Or a new machine or whatever gives him his endorphin rush!)

Same story around here. The lads who have the big numbers of cows find it difficult to find and keep good workers. No employee is going to work as hard as the farmer.

Depends on experience really. A lad coming in, possibly his/ her first job may require a bit of training in a share of tasks as well as needing to build up experience as time goes on in the farmers presence may start on minimum wage fine, but if you're looking to hold on to them for any period of time more will have to be paid eventually. When I was a young fella I started at 15/ 16 yrs old on 3 pounds an hour in petrol stations and supermarkets, with short shifts which was a bollox as couldn't get hours up to make anything by the time I was in college euros were in a year or two and I had worked on sites and in grain yards where you could put in the hours to make a few bob and the last two summers were in a plant where I was a 10er an hour but could work away up to 80 hours a week with time and a half on weekends.

Students might be ok on minimum wage once they can work the hours up and won't be taxed but full time work would have to be more than that. Have a lad working between here and the neighbours here but not a hope would either of us afford a fulltime person. At 124 cows here, even if I get to the 150 which would be a medium term target anyway i wouldn't afford a fulltime person along with the other costs of running the farm

Mooooo wrote: »

Depends on experience really. A lad coming in, possibly his/ her first job may require a bit of training in a share of tasks as well as needing to build up experience as time goes on in the farmers presence may start on minimum wage fine, but if you're looking to hold on to them for any period of time more will have to be paid eventually. When I was a young fella I started at 15/ 16 yrs old on 3 pounds an hour in petrol stations and supermarkets, with short shifts which was a bollox as couldn't get hours up to make anything by the time I was in college euros were in a year or two and I had worked on sites and in grain yards where you could put in the hours to make a few bob and the last two summers were in a plant where I was a 10er an hour but could work away up to 80 hours a week with time and a half on weekends.

Students might be ok on minimum wage once they can work the hours up and won't be taxed but full time work would have to be more than that. Have a lad working between here and the neighbours here but not a hope would either of us afford a fulltime person. At 124 cows here, even if I get to the 150 which would be a medium term target anyway i wouldn't afford a fulltime person along with the other costs of running the farm

Do many spring calving systems need a fulltime 2nd labour unit anyways? For around here, from after 1st cut until mid Oct and you start winter feeding its mostly just milking and the few jobs like fert/mowing etc. Obviously if your still in expansion mode your going to have alot more work aside from the day to day stuff, but if the farm is largely setup. Personally I'd take 2 extra labour units from feb to April anyday over a fulltime person whole year around.

I would consider a building labourer heavier work then farm labourer .In fairness plenty of good women well capable of farm labourer but have not seen any women levelling conco or on a jack hammer!!!
Although I have heard a few farm relief workers say the work on the bigger dairy farms with 300 cows plus the work is relentless with no time or place for the leaning on the shovel

How much an hour does a farmer pay to FRS for a worker?
How much does the worker get fromFRS?
Somewhere in the middle might be a reasonable guide?