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Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

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    #422
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster u19s playing touring Australian Schools in Thomond Friday night.
    First game in Australians tour and they will also play Ulster and Ireland u19s before going to Scotland


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    #423
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster had been well beaten by the Aussies 34-15

    Irish team named for test Saturday
    RELAND Under 19 Team & Replacements (v Australia U19, Energia Park, Saturday, December 8, kick-off 2.00pm)

    15. Oran McNulty (Galwegians/Connacht)
    14. Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
    13. Hayden Hyde (Cranleigh School/Harlequins/IQ Rugby)
    12. Tommy Downes (Galwegians/Munster)
    11. Aaron Sexton (Bangor Grammar/Ulster)
    10. Jack Delaney (Crescent College/Munster)
    9. Charlie O'Doherty (Newcastle West/Munster)
    1. Harry Noonan (Old Wesley/Leinster)
    2. John McKee (Old Belvedere/Leinster) Captain
    3. Charlie Ward (Clontarf/Leinster)
    4. Conor McMenamin (City of Derry/Ulster)
    5. Paddy Kelly (Young Munster/Munster)
    6. Cian Prendergast (Newbridge College/Leinster)
    7. Ciaran Booth (IQ Rugby/Sale Sharks)
    8. David McCann (Banbridge/Ulster)

    Replacements
    16. Scott Buckley (CBC Cork/Munster)
    17. Aaron Hennessy (UL/Munster)
    18. Liam Winnett (Buccaneers/Connacht)
    19. Brian Deeney (Clontarf/Leinster)
    20. Sean O'Brien (Blackrock College/Leinster)
    21. Lewis Finlay (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
    22. Dylan Prendergast (Ballina/Connacht)
    23. Louis Bruce (PBC/Munster)


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    #424
    The Lost Sheep
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    HT | Ulster U19 10 Australia Schools 10 - a try from BRA hooker Tom Stewart converted by Wallace HS Nathan Doak gave Ulster a 7-0 lead. Australia hit back with 2 unconverted tries. Doak pen ties the score at HT


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    #425
    The Lost Sheep
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    Ulster under 19s won 22-17


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    #426
    RockBoysarewii
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    Is the no. 7 Ciaran Booth a good prospect?


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    #427
    typhoony
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    I see the u19's are playing Australia today, good to see a spread of players from all the provinces as well as a couple from the UK IQ system. Some decent prospects in the team, Aaron Sexton being the best


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    #428
    The Lost Sheep
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    Ireland 19s lost 17-5.


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    #429
    jackdidley
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    Highlights of th u19 game v Aus on the irfu site http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/43099.php#.XAzTkhbp2Ec

    Watched the full game on the Aus rugby website. The Ausies were definitely more physical even though a year younger. Ire struggled in key positions to control the game. Not a great performance but there were a couple of standouts 7&13 both IQ, Kelly second row. 14 smith took his try well


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    #430
    Locke_Lamora
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    jackdidley wrote: »
    Highlights of th u19 game v Aus on the irfu site http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/43099.php#.XAzTkhbp2Ec

    Watched the full game on the Aus rugby website. The Ausies were definitely more physical even though a year younger. Ire struggled in key positions to control the game. Not a great performance but there were a couple of standouts 7&13 both IQ, Kelly second row. 14 smith took his try well

    In fairness there’s quite a few notable names for Ireland missing.


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    #431
    Wegians89
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    In fairness there’s quite a few notable names for Ireland missing.
    Who was missing?


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    #432
    Locke_Lamora
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    Wegians89 wrote: »
    Who was missing?

    Anthony Ryan, Ryan O'Neil, Thomas Clarkson, Tom Maher, Thomas Ahern, Max O'Reily, Paddy McKenzie all spring to mind off the top of my head. Then there are players who played for their provincial side who could well have played.


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    #433
    offyourfeet
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    jackdidley wrote: »
    Highlights of th u19 game v Aus on the irfu site http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/43099.php#.XAzTkhbp2Ec

    Watched the full game on the Aus rugby website. The Ausies were definitely more physical even though a year younger. Ire struggled in key positions to control the game. Not a great performance but there were a couple of standouts 7&13 both IQ, Kelly second row. 14 smith took his try well

    Munster need a big bruiser to come through at second row. Has he the size? Ahearn will be a good addition as well.


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    #434
    Paul Smeenus
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    From the Ulster thread - the Ulster team that beat the Australians. Rugby.com.au says there were four changes between the Oz teams that played Ulster and Ireland.

    15-9):
    Ethan McIlroy (Methodist College Belfast), u19
    Conor Rankin (Campbell College Belfast), u18
    Ben Carson (Wallace HS), u17
    Ben Moxham (Ballymena RFC), u18
    Ben McCaughey (Malone RFC), u19
    Greg Hutley (Down HS), u18
    Nathan Doak (Wallace HS); u18

    (1-8): George Saunderson (Sullivan Upper School), u18
    Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy), u18
    Oscar Egan Coleraine GS), u18
    Matthew Sands (City of Armagh RFC), u18
    Will Hopes (Regent House), u18
    Riley Westwood (Bangor GS), u18
    Charlie Clarke (Captain) (Rainey OB RFC), u?Reuban Crothers (Wallace HS). U17

    Replacements:
    Bryn Davies (Rainey ES), u19
    Adam Hanna (Banbridge Academy), u18
    Paddy McAlpine (Campbell College Belfast), u18
    Steven Kelly (Letterkenny RFC), u?
    Phil Campbell (Ballymena RFC), u18
    Conor McKee (Sullivan Upper School), u18
    Robbie Johnston (Queen’s University Belfast), u19
    Rex Tinsley (Campbell College Belfast) u?

    Wallace High School 3
    Campbell 3
    Sullivan 2
    Ballymena RFC 2
    Malone RFC 1
    City of Armagh RFC 1
    Letterkenny RFC 1
    QUB 1
    Methody 1
    Rainey 1
    Rainey RFC 1
    Down High School 1
    Regent House 1
    BRA 1
    Coleraine Grammar School 1
    Banbridge Academy 1
    Bangor Grammar School 1

    Age groups added. Only 2 u19 unless the 7 was u19 in which case 3 u19 in starting team.


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    #435
    Number 137
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    jackdidley wrote: »
    Highlights of th u19 game v Aus on the irfu site http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/43099.php#.XAzTkhbp2Ec

    Watched the full game on the Aus rugby website. The Ausies were definitely more physical even though a year younger. Ire struggled in key positions to control the game. Not a great performance but there were a couple of standouts 7&13 both IQ, Kelly second row. 14 smith took his try well

    The Australian team are actually the same age as the Irish. It's their u18 team, but because their season falls differently, the players are eligible once born in 2000. That'll be their u19 team for the calendar year in 2019, same as Ireland.


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    #436
    jackdidley
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    Number 137 wrote: »
    The Australian team are actually the same age as the Irish. It's their u18 team, but because their season falls differently, the players are eligible once born in 2000. That'll be their u19 team for the calendar year in 2019, same as Ireland.

    Not according to the match report on their website

    “Two tour matches against Irish provinces a year older than the Aussies, a win over Munster and loss to Ulster, clearly had them primed for the challenge of the U19 Irish side”.


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    #437
    Locke_Lamora
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    jackdidley wrote: »
    Not according to the match report on their website

    “Two tour matches against Irish provinces a year older than the Aussies, a win over Munster and loss to Ulster, clearly had them primed for the challenge of the U19 Irish side”.

    If you look at the Ulster team posted on the previous page there were only two u19's starting, with two u17's and the rest u18's - so I can't really see how they would be a year older than the aussies.


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    #438
    jacothelad
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    If you look at the Ulster team posted on the previous page there were only two u19's starting, with two u17's and the rest u18's - so I can't really see how they would be a year older than the aussies.


    Yes, the Aussies have that upside down......:D


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    jackdidley
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    If you look at the Ulster team posted on the previous page there were only two u19's starting, with two u17's and the rest u18's - so I can't really see how they would be a year older than the aussies.

    Because all the Irish starting 15 bar 1 are u19 and the Aussies are u18 apparently, that’s how. I’ve no idea how the Aus age system works just stating their report on their official website.


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    Number 137
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    It was an end of season tour for Australia. The Irish u19 squad is their u19 squad for the year ending 31st December 2019. This is Australia's u18 squad for the year ending 31st December 2018. So it will be their u19 side year ending 2019. Same as Ireland. The report saying they were facing a team a year older is based on the teams' titles, not their actual dates of birth.


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    #441
    Ayewserious
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    jackdidley wrote: »
    Because all the Irish starting 15 bar 1 are u19 and the Aussies are u18 apparently, that’s how. I’ve no idea how the Aus age system works just stating their report on their official website.
    Ireland 10,13 were both u18


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    jackdidley
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    Ayewserious wrote: »
    Ireland 10,13 were both u18

    Jack is definitely u18. I was nearly sure Hayden is of the age as he’s played this age group with the exiles / iq for the last number of years


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    #443
    Locke_Lamora
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    jackdidley wrote: »
    Jack is definitely u18. I was nearly sure Hayden is of the age as he’s played this age group with the exiles / iq for the last number of years

    Alex Shaw is usually quite knowledgeable with regards to English age grade prospects and he reckons Hayden is still u18 qualified.

    Did anyone watch the full game (available on the aussies website)? Both teams looked quite poor at implementing any sort of game plan, there were lots of basic errors, and the overall quality wasn't great. Obviously we need to keep in mind that players were missing, teams were thrown together, and this was probably an exercise in getting game time for as many prospects as possible.


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    #444
    The Lost Sheep
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    Alex Shaw is usually quite knowledgeable with regards to English age grade prospects and he reckons Hayden is still u18 qualified.

    Did anyone watch the full game (available on the aussies website)? Both teams looked quite poor at implementing any sort of game plan, there were lots of basic errors, and the overall quality wasn't great. Obviously we need to keep in mind that players were missing, teams were thrown together, and this was probably an exercise in getting game time for as many prospects as possible.
    Hayden hyde is definitely u20(born in 99) and in his final year of 20s.


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    #445
    Ayewserious
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    jackdidley wrote: »
    Jack is definitely u18. I was nearly sure Hayden is of the age as he’s played this age group with the exiles / iq for the last number of years
    Is he in 5th or 6th year?


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    #446
    Tomtomfoolery
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    thanks


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    #447
    Blackheath
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    Are the Ireland U20 playing trail matches against Munster and Leinster U20 this year.


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    #448
    The Lost Sheep
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    Blackheath wrote: »
    Are the Ireland U20 playing trail matches against Munster and Leinster U20 this year.
    yes trial/warm up games before and just after christmas


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    #449
    The Lost Sheep
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    fixtures over christmas for 20s
    v Leinster Development on 21/12 in Donnybrook
    v Munster Development in Musgrave


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    #450
    bilston
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    Do they ever play Ulster or Connacht?


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    #451
    The Lost Sheep
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    bilston wrote: »
    Do they ever play Ulster or Connacht?
    No. Neither generally would have had depth and probably allows stronger opposition for 20s to play


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