Carlow GAA Discussion Thread

allthedoyles · 19-10-2014 9:44pm

Nice win for St Mullins today 0-9 to Myshall 0-7 in the Hurling Final .

TaosHum · 20-10-2014 9:55am

Well done to St. Mullins on the win yesterday. I think Myshall will be kicking themselves having hit so many wides in the second half and only scoring one point. Marty Kavanagh was the difference though. In a tight game, with little scoring and in tough conditions, his stood out in the second half and got the vital scores for St. Mullins. He also won alot of ball from the puck out and drove at the Myshall backline at every opportunity. Crazy he didn't get man of match, although his brother Jack worked very hard and won alot of the ball in critical areas.

I don't fancy St.Mullins to progress in Leinster, but credit to them for bouncing back after last years showing in the final. Myshall however will be woundering how they left that one behind.

Stevecw · 27-10-2014 2:29am

Rathvilly very unlucky today, I thought. Were after taking control of the game in 2nd half, until that crazy decision to send Brendan Murphy off. Very harsh 2nd yellow I think. After that Rathnew took over, but needed that late goal to get the win. Poor game overall, and can't see Rathnew giving Moorefield much to worry about next day out.
6 years now since a Carlow club won a game in leinster, Eire Og in a replay in Longford. Lack of success has to be a worry for Turlough and the county management trying to put together a decent Co panel.

Stevecw · 07-01-2015 10:55pm

2 defeats, but very encouraging displays by the senior footballers so far. Great to see such a big squad involved and for once including most of the best players.
Was at the UCD game Sunday which we could easily have won. Tonight it took a last minute goal by Kildare to beat us. Neither team would be a full 1st 15. Great to see such a big quality squad to choose from for once.

Turlough has got a good panel involved & has them playing to an effective plan. No chance we will repeat last years Div 4 result of being 8th. Top 3 or 4 challenging for promotion for sure.

TaosHum · 08-01-2015 2:03pm

Encouraging performances alright. I'm not expecting much in the way of results come February, but I'm certain this team won't get rolled over as easily in games as they did last season.

The panel will also be strengthened by Brendan Murphy's return and it will be interesting to see what TOB does with him. Played Centre-back mostly with Rathvilly this year, but I think St. Ledger will remain there. I'd be happy to see him at either Midfield or Centre Forward.

TaosHum · 02-02-2015 11:28am

Wasn't up in Belfast yesterday, but by all accounts the footballers were unlucky not to leave with 2 points. Even so, a draw away to Antrim is a heck of a result and 2 points against London on Sunday would really give Carlow a nice platform going into the remaining games.

Thought the hurlers were better than a nine point defeat against Galway. 3/4 point loss would probably have been fairer on the lads. But thought it was a poor enough performance given Galway were down to 14 for most of the game. What I couldn't understand was why Carlow never resorted to short puck outs, as they had the extra man in the backline and were not winning much in midfield. Galway on the other hand used the short puck out well.

But, it is only the Walsh Cup and the team wasn't near full strength. Hopefully lessons are learned and the team can have a good league campaign.

fadofado · 02-02-2015 2:26pm

Was in Netwatch Cullen Park too, I thought we were very poor to be honest. The first imperative for a midfield pairing should be the ability to win ball in the air, neither of our midfielders yesterday were capable of that. We were cleaned out there. Galway won at their ease with 14 men so we have a long way to go.
The pleasing aspect was that we are prepared to graft. We have some players to come back like Brennan, English, 2 kavanaghs,Byrne and Murphy and they will improve matters when they return.
Footballers unlucky I believe not to take 2 points. Big mistake not starting J. Murphy, luckily enough he was introduced and turned the game for Carlow. A result this w/e sets us up for the rest of league. Here's hopin.!

TaosHum · 09-02-2015 12:57pm

Made hard work of things yesterday, but the most important thing was getting the win. To the lads credit, when London got those four points in a row to make things level, previous Carlow teams would have wilted and lost that game. Seems to be a bit more character and back bone to this team, which is great to see.

The most obvious thing to come from yesterday was that of Paul Broderick goes down Carlow are in serious trouble. Lack of scoring forwards really hurt yesterday, as the forwards seemed to lack confidence and directness. In fairness though, Dara O'Brien played well and Ciaran Moran made a big difference when he came on at HT. I wouldn't continue with Hugh Gahan at full forward, as he doesn't know the position and it takes away one of his main attribute which is running at the opposition.

The backline and midfield I though played well. Shane Redmond was solid at full back, with Benny Kavanagh also doing alot of good work. Out of the two midfielders, I though Foley was better than Gannon.

The win puts Carlow in a good position to seriously challenge now. Next game vs Waterford is huge and will be a good test to see where this team is. I'm hoping that with the likes of Broderick and Murphy to come back, along with Moran, Molloy & Hayden to come back in this team can kick on.

fadofado · 09-02-2015 1:48pm

Agree with most of that Tao. We must have kicked 8-9 wides in first half alone. I would not have removed John Murphy as I thought that although things weren't going his way he was making the runs and getting on a lot of ball. I would have removed Alan Kelly or ed finnegan instead. Agree that Moran did well when introduced. Our forwards are a problem no doubt. I'd be a wee bit concerned about the ease with which London walked thru us for easy points esp. the last four. Two of those were a direct result of poor kicks out. Now that is an area that can be addressed hopefully.The good side of yesterday was the bit of spirit when things weren't going well. Overall happy with the win but big problems ahead imo.

TaosHum · 16-02-2015 11:16am

A win yesterday against Wicklow, but it certainly wasn't a good performance. Very sloppy performance that had far too many dropped passes, players unable to pick up the ball, wides and wayward passing. Honestly, I can't see Carlow beating Kerry, Westmeath or Derry on the back of that, but it's early and hopefully their will be much improvement. Will need to start next week, as a trip to London will be much tougher than Wicklow.

To Wicklow's credit, they were the better side in the first ten minutes. But Leighton Glynn's moment of madness ended the game. Had that not happened, it would have been alot tighter.

There was some good Carlow play however. Thought Sean Murphy used his speed well, Diarmuid Byrne scored some nice points, JM Nolan put himself about and Craig Doyle was the best player on the field, even though he only played 35 minutes!

The full back line and goalkeeper worry me abit though and I'm not sure the midfield will be good enough either. But time will tell.

Stevecw · 17-02-2015 9:44pm

TaosHum wrote: »

A win yesterday against Wicklow, but it certainly wasn't a good performance. Very sloppy performance that had far too many dropped passes, players unable to pick up the ball, wides and wayward passing. Honestly, I can't see Carlow beating Kerry, Westmeath or Derry on the back of that, but it's early and hopefully their will be much improvement. Will need to start next week, as a trip to London will be much tougher than Wicklow.

To Wicklow's credit, they were the better side in the first ten minutes. But Leighton Glynn's moment of madness ended the game. Had that not happened, it would have been alot tighter.

There was some good Carlow play however. Thought Sean Murphy used his speed well, Diarmuid Byrne scored some nice points, JM Nolan put himself about and Craig Doyle was the best player on the field, even though he only played 35 minutes!

The full back line and goalkeeper worry me abit though and I'm not sure the midfield will be good enough either. But time will tell.

Went up to it Sunday too, but thanks to the missus we got there a few mins late. So we got in at 1-1 to 0-1 for Wicklow. After the sending off, the game was over really. Was far from impressive overall, but got job done easily. Craig Doyle has to start from now on. Defenders missing through injury tho, Eoin Nolan is injured. Shane Kav is commuting from abroad, Jack Kavanagh is injured, David English too is recovering from injury. Michael Ryan left the panel.
Games like this if we do happen to win 2a are no preparation for a game v 1B last team. Offaly, Laois or Antrim will prob end up last in 1B

fadofado · 18-02-2015 2:23pm

Stevecw wrote: »

Went up to it Sunday too, but thanks to the missus we got there a few mins late. So we got in at 1-1 to 0-1 for Wicklow. After the sending off, the game was over really. Was far from impressive overall, but got job done easily. Craig Doyle has to start from now on. Defenders missing through injury tho, Eoin Nolan is injured. Shane Kav is commuting from abroad, Jack Kavanagh is injured, David English too is recovering from injury. Michael Ryan left the panel.
Games like this if we do happen to win 2a are no preparation for a game v 1B last team. Offaly, Laois or Antrim will prob end up last in 1B

Agree with you stevecw, we will not cut any ice against 1B teams with that performance but I suppose it's hard to keep motivated when you're under no pressure.That full back line will not do but then there are no. of defenders to come back. Any idea why M. Ryan left panel? big loss! Nolan, Shane and English's return would make big diff tho.
Mark brennan ditto if he can stay fit. Midfield is also a worry , unable to win any aerial ball which is a big problem. Craig Doyle looked really good, be great if he cam maintain that form. Any hope of Denis Murphy returning or is he out for season.

Stevecw · 20-02-2015 9:45pm

fadofado wrote: »

Agree with you stevecw, we will not cut any ice against 1B teams with that performance but I suppose it's hard to keep motivated when you're under no pressure.That full back line will not do but then there are no. of defenders to come back. Any idea why M. Ryan left panel? big loss! Nolan, Shane and English's return would make big diff tho.
Mark brennan ditto if he can stay fit. Midfield is also a worry , unable to win any aerial ball which is a big problem. Craig Doyle looked really good, be great if he cam maintain that form. Any hope of Denis Murphy returning or is he out for season.

M Ryan left panel to focus on his studies. Not sure about Denis Murphy, a big loss. Craig Doyle back is a huge bonus, a serious goalscoring threat.
No word still about the team for London tomorrow, must be leaving it till last minute.

Great to see that Brendan Murphy played most of IT Carlow's Sigerson Cup semi today. Was afraid his injury would cause him to miss the league. Massive boost ahead of next Saturdays game in Dungarvan.

TaosHum · 21-02-2015 1:21am

Stevecw wrote: »

M Ryan left panel to focus on his studies. Not sure about Denis Murphy, a big loss. Craig Doyle back is a huge bonus, a serious goalscoring threat.
No word still about the team for London tomorrow, must be leaving it till last minute.

Great to see that Brendan Murphy played most of IT Carlow's Sigerson Cup semi today. Was afraid his injury would cause him to miss the league. Massive boost ahead of next Saturdays game in Dungarvan.

Thought there was a rule now that starting 15s had to be in by 24 hours prior to throw in?

Or am I mistaken?

Stevecw · 21-02-2015 2:23am

TaosHum wrote: »

Thought there was a rule now that starting 15s had to be in by 24 hours prior to throw in?

Or am I mistaken?

First I heard of that, maybe your right. But hear that due to whether or not a couple of guys pass late fitness tests in morning, that's why team is left till morning.

TaosHum · 21-02-2015 10:01am

Picked it up wrong. There will be a motion on it at congress that starting 15 has to be in by Thursday 9am the weekend of a game for championship matches. So wont be in for league either.

TaosHum · 21-02-2015 2:31pm

Really surprised Carlow have been so dominant against a London team I thought would put it up to them.

Stevecw · 21-02-2015 8:27pm

TaosHum wrote: »

Really surprised Carlow have been so dominant against a London team I thought would put it up to them.

Much easier win than expected. 3-7 to 0-1 at ht says it all. Second half seemed like a bit of a non-event.

That's the 2 easiest games over with. From here on in it get's a lot tougher after the break. We are getting players back though from injury so might be perfect timing with the fixtures the way they fell.

Fantastic win today too for minor footballers i see beating Cork by 4 points.

TaosHum · 22-02-2015 9:12pm

Great win for the minor footballers yesterday. Not often a Carlow side beats Cork, so great achievement. Hopefully they can continue the good start.

Hurlers will have a tough outing next day against Derry, who beat Westmeath today. But with some of the injured lads coming back to fitness I'm hoping Carlow will be strong enough. Certainly won't be as easy as it was last season.

TaosHum · 28-02-2015 9:53pm

Big, big win tonight for the footballers! Belief will be high after that and they are now serious contenders in division 4.

Fair play to the minors who will play Kildare in the knockouts of the minor league.

Stevecw · 28-02-2015 10:58pm

Massive win, that game tonight was either going to make or break the year. 3 home games left now, no reason at all why we shouldn't at least bring it down to the Longford game for promotion. Very very strong bench available there tonight which is something we haven't had for years.
Wicklow at home now next Sunday will be very interesting, hope we get a good crowd out to support. This management team & group of players are giving it everything and would love to see a big turnout next week.

Super win too by a very good minor side v Wexford. To top a group with Cork, Wexford & Wicklow is seriously impressive.

fadofado · 02-03-2015 1:19am

Delighted with the win last night. We showed great spirit in those last ten minutes in terrible conditions. JOHN Murphy made a big difference when he came on . He should have been in earlier. We need Brendan M at midfield as we struggled there when he was inside. I WOULD LIke to see J. Murphy at FF and Gannoon and Brendan at midfield. ID also start Hayden and hopefully Broderick will be back. Think Ruth is also worth giving a start to . Next Sun is now vital as last night will count for naught if we don't beat Wicklow.

Stevecw · 02-03-2015 7:24pm

Next Sunday is huge, hope we get a big home crowd out. Most games in DCP v Wicklow they've had more support than us. Think it might be different this time tho.
Agree Brendan Murphy has to start mf with Gannon. John Murphy at ff & Gahan at 11 would make sense to me. Hayden has to start too in half forward line. We need pace and scorers in there.

Quality squad this time for once so we have decent options off bench. Away to Antrim John Murphy made a huge impact off bench, at home to London it was Ciaran Moran who came on and was unplayable.

fadofado · 02-03-2015 8:03pm

Imo best team we can put out is SAME BACKS as sat. Then Brendan Murphy, Gannon , Hayden, gahan, Brian Murphy, dob, John Murphy, Broderick. If Broderick is out id start ciaran moran.

TaosHum · 02-03-2015 8:09pm

I wouldn't put Hayden in the forwards. Seen him play there last year for Eire Og and he struggled.

Think wing back is where he is at his best, but there is quite abit of competition there. I think come championship time he will be starting there.

I don't see much in the way of changes from the side that beat Waterford. Broderick if fit will come in for O'Brien and that will be bout that.

fadofado · 03-03-2015 1:04pm

We need changes to our wing forwards . They are no threat going forward as they slow down play too much.They are effectively playing as extra wing backs so playing Hayden there would suit him according to your analysis. I would also start DOB as he has been very effective against both London and Waterford. John Murphy was the difference along with gannon when introduced the other night so i would have him at full forward and Brendan M. at midfield instead of Dara Foley who has'nt done anything to justify his continued selection. I don't think he got his hands on one ball against Waterford apart from two frees which he kicked badly wide. His second half move to centre forward made no difference.We need to start our best team ...simple as.

TaosHum · 03-03-2015 6:19pm

I know that when O'Brien managed Eire Og, I only ever saw Derek Hayden playing in the backs. I'd be amazed if he decided to put Hayden in at half forward, regardless of the shape of the team. Eire Og played a sweeper system last season and were quite defensive without the ball, Hayden playing at wing forward still struggled. But, management will make the call on that.

Murphy more than likely will go to midfield, but whether he drops Foley or plays him in the forwards is hard to know. Foley has started all three games so far, so I can see TOB sticking with him.

I'd air on the side of TOB sticking with continuity considering results so far, hence the same team starting apart from Broderick to come in.

fadofado · 03-03-2015 6:40pm

Yeah I won't be disappointed as long as we keep winning or at least competing. Btw he has introduced hayden as a half forward in last 2 games. Also think J.Murphy is better starting bet than Foley at mo. Also he introduced Brian Murphy last Sat, hardly a good example of continuity.

TaosHum · 03-03-2015 7:48pm

I wouldn't expect things to have stayed the same having scraped by London. Wasn't a great performance.

But having gone to Waterford against one of the promotion favourites in poor conditions and won, TOB might think hard of changing things up and keep faith with what worked. Can bevtough to change a winning team.

But we will see on Sunday what happens.

fadofado · 04-03-2015 9:17pm

I'd disagree with you on Waterford being favourites for promotion seeing as we beat them last Summer. i thought they were a poor outfit on sat with very little football ability in the side.
Agree changes were needed after London game but bringing Brian Murphy who had'nt kicked a ball in anger since October was'nt the one to make. He never got a smell of it in first half and while he did improve in second half it was by no means a good showing. 3 easy frees and a point from play that should have been in the net. Having said that I would give him another chance on Sun. as that match will bring him on and hopefully proximity to Wicklow will have him fired up a bit more than last sat. Just saying that there is no consistency in selection if man who has'nt featured for six months starts instead of no. of players who have been playing solid stuff since January.

TaosHum · 05-03-2015 1:19am

To Waterfords credit, they won the McGrath Cup earlier this year and quite a few sites/newspapers said they had improved and would challenge for promotion. Had already beaten Wicklow in the league also.

I think Brian Murphy was brought in due to the lack of scoring forwards and Broderick's injury. I've never considered Brian Murphy a prolific scorer but TOB probably felt he'd add more quality and physicality to the full forward line. John Murphy was poor against London at CF and Hugh Gahan looked lost at Full forward, which probably also influenced things.

I think it's good we're having this conversation though, means there is strength in depth in the squad, something Carlow football hasn't had in quite a while. Real competition for places, which is great!

fadofado · 05-03-2015 1:30pm

Oh yeah would that it happened more often in Carlow. Usually it's a case of "we'd be better off pulling out of this comp." or something similar.Winning is a great habit. I just have a feeling that the starting 15 v Waterford won't be good enough for Wicklow who despite their poor form so far have a bit more quality than Waterford esp. with some of their better players back. Hope i'm wrong tho.

bruschi · 05-03-2015 1:53pm

one of your minors was showing some nice skills in the game against Wexford on Saturday -

https://twitter.com/sportstats_ie/status/573190518533988353

fadofado · 05-03-2015 2:19pm

Yeah the basketball skills are a great help to Gaelic football players. You can always spot them,esp. ability to hang in the air for that extra split second.

TaosHum · 07-03-2015 2:37pm

Happy with the side named to play Wicklow. John Murphy coming in at full forward will suit him much better than centre forward, where he played against London.

I'm intrigued to see whether Brendan Murphy will start at centre forward. I actually think it's a good position for him. Can still have an influence around the middle of the park and should get a few scores from there also. But come throw in, that space could be occupied by Darragh Foley.

Carlow look physically very strong in the forwards, with Darragh O'Brien being the lightest out of them. But O'Brien has pace and good movement off the ball, which has stood to him so far.

Great to see guys on the bench that can come in and have an influence. Gahan, Moran, Hayden will feel they should be starting and have something to prove. If in need of scores, Eric McCormack could do some damage also.

Two huge games for both footballers and hurlers tomorrow. Two wins would really put both in strong positions.

fadofado · 08-03-2015 7:37pm

Good win for hurlers but footballers were very poor against a terrible Wicklow. First half was as bad as I've seen for years.Once again it was our forwards that were responsible. Why we persist with this starting formation is beyond me. It's not working. Our wing forwards are not up to it. Then we compound matters by bringing on Alan Kelly who has been given more chances at this level but has consistently failed to deliver and did so again today. two great chances to win it at the end ,kicked both of them wide.DOB was poor today and should have been removed far earlier, bit of favouritism going on methinks. No time for it at this level.
It's so frustrating for the other players who put in such a shift today. Let's hope I'm not writng the same stuff next sunday evening but I'm not optimistic.

TaosHum · 08-03-2015 9:15pm

Firstly, fair play to the hurlers. Not easy going up to Derry and getting a win. A win against either Kerry or Westmeath will see them into the final.

As for the footballers, I agree Fado, forwards were very poor. I honestly don't know what the gameplan was in attack. Anytime Carlow got halfway into the Wicklow half, they seemed to hold up possession and passed left and right instead of hitting it into the full forwards. Granted the movement of the full forward line was very poor and probably didn't help matters, but if you have a big man like John Murphy in at full forward then why not hit it in on top of him or Brian Murphy?

Some of the passing and wides were very, very poor at times. Lads under no pressure passing it straight to Wicklowmen was inexcusable. Brian Murphy's penalty was very tame and some of the wides in the first half were very bad. All in all I think both teams will feel they left this one behind.

I think though expectations have to be lowered. Carlow just don't have the scoring forwards. Broderick is a huge loss and there is nobody on that panel who can replace him. Carlow simply need him back if they want any chance of beating Offaly and Longford.

But you can't deny the level of progression in this side from what we seen of Carlow under Rainbow. In the league last year, Carlow were beaten by Wicklow at home by 14 points. So you have to respect the work done by the management and players to be at least competitive.

fadofado · 09-03-2015 3:15pm

Taosum I'vestated here that i'm delighted with the progress we have made and fair dues to manaagement for that. However I've also made it clear that we have not been picking our best starting 15. This was vindicated once more yesterday.ABsolutely crazy starting the likes of finnegan, bambrick, when you have ruth , hayden, moran on the line. Brian Murphy shouldn't have started in Waterford as I said here last week, I also said that seeing as he had that game under his belt I would give him a chance yesterday but he should have been gone after 20 mins along with DOB.How DOB remained on the field for so long was a mystery to me and lots of people around me. We can but speculate as to why ;-). So If management take credit for doing the right thing they also have to take the brickbats for not. Hopefully they have this out of their system now and can improve against Offaly. I'm afraid tho , I'm very afraid.

TaosHum · 09-03-2015 4:49pm

I agree that the coaching staff have to take responsibility for that performance. As I said, I couldn't figure out what (if any) the gameplan was when Carlow had the ball in the oppositions half.

Even though changes will be made for the Offaly game and there should be, I don't think they will make much of a difference. Without Broderick, there is no target man in the full forward line who everyone looks to when in possession or someone who will get 5/6 points a game. Even having Seamus Kinsella would make a difference, but he's not available.

I'd definitely have Ciaran Moran in there, throw Cronin in at corner forward and even Jack Kennedy at wing forward who would add some pace, but I still don't think they will have much impact on the score sheet. Eoghan Ruth will probably start the next day.

10-03-2015 12:46am

Both Turlough o'Brien and Pat English seem to be doing fantastic jobs respectively so far. Hopefully Carlow can finish the job and gain promotion this year in the hurling while the footballers have really emerged from the rubble of Anthony Rainbows shambolic regime.

TaosHum · 16-03-2015 12:49am

Tough day for Carlow GAA today. Footballers put up a valiant effort against Offaly from what I've heard and they still have a shot of promotion if they win their final games.

Decided to go see the hurlers today and honestly, they didn't deserve anything. Very poor team performance and still making the same errors as they did against Galway in the Walsh Cup. Marking was awful throughout, lads dropping balls and too complacent in possession. Team seemed off the pace in comparison to Kerry, who always seemed to have an extra man loose. Make no mistake, the scoreline does not reflect Kerry's superiority throughout. Kerry also dominated in midfield and Carlow kept pucking the ball out to them respite their dominance.

I've no faith in this team going to Westmeath and getting the result they need next week. I heard there was disharmony in the camp and it looked that way today. Too many lads doing their own thing and not playing as a team. Also seen a couple of keys lads pissed this evening in town. Now I agree lads should be able to enjoy themselves, but after a big loss and a big game next weekend, could they not have waited another week?

All is not right at the moment with the Carlow Senior hurling side.

windy shepard henderson · 16-03-2015 1:17am

great improvement by the footballers as tipp gunner said something to work on next year should this years league not work out in terms of promotion , and in fairness kerry should be in division 1-b this year its a tough division to get out of 2a we needed two attempts to get out of it ourselves

Stevecw · 16-03-2015 7:20pm

Sad to hear that things don't seem to be going well at all with the hurlers. Very surprised at that loss yesterday, but hear that some lads were playing club games during the week. Something has gone very wrong there, last year we were blaming Meyler but seems like he wasn't the problem at all.

Was in Tullamore at the footballers game, great effort by all. Deserved at worst a draw from the game. Heartbreaking loss it was. Will post more about it later when I get home. They gave everything and finally we have a Carlow football team to be proud of.

homeofhurling · 16-03-2015 7:23pm

Stevecw wrote: »

Sad to hear that things don't seem to be going well at all with the hurlers. Very surprised at that loss yesterday, but hear that some lads were playing club games during the week. Something has gone very wrong there, last year we were blaming Meyler but seems like he wasn't the problem at all.

Was in Tullamore at the footballers game, great effort by all. Deserved at worst a draw from the game. Heartbreaking loss it was. Will post more about it later when I get home. They gave everything and finally we have a Carlow football team to be proud of.

as Jose the special one would say, Carlow came to tullamore and parked the bus in front of their goals.:D

fadofado · 20-03-2015 11:18am

homeofhurling wrote: »

as Jose the special one would say, Carlow came to tullamore and parked the bus in front of their goals.:D

You're not wrong there HOH. You have to bear in mind tho where Carlow are coming from. We were conceding massive scores last year. Wicklow put 1-25 against us and in the championship meath took us for 7 goals while Clare (get this) scored 4-26 in the qualifiers.That's the backdrop for us so while it may not be easy on the eye we had to remedy our defensive problems first and foremost. Now if only we could score a bit more

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homeofhurling · 20-03-2015 12:17pm

agree doing away better job than when Anthony Rainbow was over them they are not out of it yet win there last two games and they could nick second spot offaly are after falling off the pace after a good start and will more than likely drop more points, longford look strong now for top spot.

TaosHum · 20-03-2015 2:57pm

Stevecw wrote: »

Sad to hear that things don't seem to be going well at all with the hurlers. Very surprised at that loss yesterday, but hear that some lads were playing club games during the week. Something has gone very wrong there, last year we were blaming Meyler but seems like he wasn't the problem at all.

I think a big problem for Carlow is that the standards have dropped since relegation from 1B. Team just isn't sharp enough nor is the work-rate good enough. Both coaches and players have to take collective responsibility for that. The team has the quality to win 2A, but the application isn't there.

I've no confidence of a win on Sunday, which will mean another step back from last year. Probably looking at relegation from the Senior Championship also. If that happens, then the county hurlers could be in big trouble for years to come.

Stevecw · 20-03-2015 9:20pm

TaosHum wrote: »

I think a big problem for Carlow is that the standards have dropped since relegation from 1B. Team just isn't sharp enough nor is the work-rate good enough. Both coaches and players have to take collective responsibility for that. The team has the quality to win 2A, but the application isn't there.

I've no confidence of a win on Sunday, which will mean another step back from last year. Probably looking at relegation from the Senior Championship also. If that happens, then the county hurlers could be in big trouble for years to come.

Agree, from what I hear we haven't much of a hope on Sunday. It's not a happy camp and certain players are to blame. It's a poison that crept in last year and despite Pat's best efforts it's worse than ever. Another 2a year & likely relegation to Christy Ring is ahead of us it seems

TaosHum · 23-03-2015 10:07am

Tough for the hurlers yesterday. Wasn't up at it but heard they probably deserved something out of the game.

To go out to two last second one point defeats must be hard to take for the lads. It's a shame, but hopefully they can re-group and get things back on track the Championship in May.

fadofado · 24-03-2015 1:56am

More to do with attitude of some players than hard luck. Lads playing no account club matches during week of matches, sometimes 2 days before game. Others on the lash couple of nights last week. What do they expect? Other players are obviously disillusioned with this. Doesn't make for happy camp.

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