Is the LUAS red line as bad as you all make out?

Ah Jasis you'll be grand bud, just enjoy the view out the window, keep to yourself and try not to look like a victim.

plodder wrote: »

Southside = Northside I suppose, since the Luas is mostly south of the Liffey. :rolleyes:

I always found it laughable when people describe the green line as servicing the southside and red line servicing the northside. They are both a service from the Southside to the city centre. Just one happens to end up slightly north of the Liffey.

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You're being a little facetious imo if you don't acknowledge that one tram running from tallaght through fatima and Jervis to abbey st isn't a totally different prospect to one running between dundrum and Stephens green

Whereas you are being more than a little selective in your geographical description of the two lines.

I use it regularly and it's nowhere near as dangerious as people make out.
The thing is two fold:
1. Of the violent incidents that happen on the Luas, a massively disproportionate amount happen on the Red line for the simple fact that it goes through places like Tallaght whereas the Green line goes through places like Dundrum.

2. As others have alluded to there is a general feeling of unease about it due to the presence of scumbags who look so cartoonish they remind one of the mutants from Futurama.  Contrary to anecdotes you hear all the time (as they say, "the plual of anecdote is not data"), they do not "all" have free travel or anywhere close to it, I've actually gone so far as to run the numbers down on this twice before

There is no box on the application form for "knacker" or "addict" that one can tick to get a card.
You only get those cards if you are a senior citizen, carer or disabled and a disability is very narrowly defined through an exhaustive medical report that must pass your own GP, a welfare officer and a medical officer the latter two from the DSP who have no interest in doing you any favors, quite the contrary.  No medical condition (addiction or not, not even cancer) automatically qualifies for it, it must be a disabling condition lasting longer than a year, in other words it inhibits any normal functioning (socializing, working etc) and can be randomly reviewed at any time by a DSP appointed doctor.  Some of them fit this criteria, some of them because of complications relating to addiction, but it's not easy to get I know that from personal experience.  I had two life threatening illnesses and hadn't socialized or worked normally for 2 years at the time of my application and I had trouble getting it

Scumbags just don't bother paying the fare most of the time, that's why you don't see a ticket in their hands, and they are not deterred by the prospect of court action like normal people as they've grown up with it, they don't care about a conviction or a fine damaging their reputation because they don't have one to protect, and any fine they can just say I don't have it and pay 5/10er a week out of social welfare (if they're on it, which almost all of them are)

The problem of them bothering you is much bigger than attacking you, for example they'll bug you for change "for me fare", when you know it's not for the fare, they hang around Connoly and various Luas stops pulling this act, ironically this makes it harder for anyone ACTUALLY stuck for fare to be taken seriously, though all you need do is take a look at them and what they're wearing etc to see if they're legit (sorry , but it's true).
They also love arguing with their girlfriends viciously but, and I remember this groundhog day act from my days in security, they'll be dry humping mere minutes after a screaming match or cops having to pull them apart.
In short, this is the background chatter on the Red line
Person 1: "I'll puk de bleedin head outta ye ye old slut i know what you were bleedin doin up dere ye b1tch ye!"
Person 2: "don't f_____g talk to me like that ye b____x I'll s$$£$£9 all over yer bleedin face ye ****£$£$$£$& ye fu___g "$£$£$$£$$,
Person 1: "ive te do get me methadone and if I see you on the way back i'm throwing ye in front of diz f__n luas I swear te jaysus yar doin me f ____ g head in"
This is what you'll here on the Green line around Balaly or Dundrum
Person 1: "oh my gawd loike Sean is loike so ripped did you see those biceps straining against his tshirt oh my gawd! he had a shirtless pic on Instagram and loike gawd he has that real rugby body you know"
Person 2: "ya I know loike OMFG"
Person 1: "roysh?"
Person 2: "ya!...i need to cool down lets go for a Frappachino they have the Grande Mocha Frappachinos in Starbucks"