Official Conor McGregor thread (part 6) Read Mod Note in Post 1 Revised 13-01-19

Boards.ie: Niamh · 11-12-2018 6:29pm

I've removed some off-topic and potentially defamatory posts, please heed Axwell's earlier mod note and mine. Thanks.

Steve · 11-12-2018 9:29pm

OK folks, there were a fair few posts deleted, I get the jist of the problem but not the details, if any of you would care to give me some context by way of a news article or something by PM then I'll re-open this (just need to know what is discussable).

Thanks.

Axwell · 11-12-2018 9:34pm

Steve wrote: »

OK folks, there were a fair few posts deleted, I get the jist of the problem but not the details, if any of you would care to give me some context by way of a news article or something by PM then I'll re-open this (just need to know what is discussable).

Thanks.

Pm sent

Steve · 12-12-2018 11:11pm

OK, thread re-opened on the following condition:

NO discussion of the alleged 'incident' will be permitted. There is an ongoing Garda investigation (reported on a mainstream news site) but that's as far as it has got.

Any discussion will lead to this being closed and action taken against those who discussed it.

If the situation changes, this condition will be reviewed / relaxed as appropriate.

Wheeliebin30 · 12-12-2018 11:14pm

I see he posted on his Facebook page an hour ago, seems excited for 2019.

Good to see.

riemann · 12-12-2018 11:24pm

Axwell wrote: »

There is a story doing the rounds this morning in the tabloids with allegations towards an unnamed Irish Sports Star. It goes without saying be very very careful what you post here both as regards the allegations of the story and those involved and the legal ramifications of both. Any stupidity will be severely punished, you have been warned.

Thank you to the moderators for all your tremendous work not just today but through all your lives.

Mr. Mcgregor is an individual of tremendous moral character and has never displayed any indication that he would behave in any manner other than law abiding.

Truly an inspiration to us all. I find it hard to believe anyone could harbor any ill will towards him, let alone post scandalous rumours online in a place of such integrity as this great forum.

dulux99 · 12-12-2018 11:29pm

riemann wrote: »

Thank you to the moderators for all your tremendous work not just today but through all your lives.

Mr. Mcgregor is an individual of tremendous moral character and has never displayed any indication that he would behave in any manner other than law abiding.

Truly an inspiration to us all. I find it hard to believe anyone could harbor any ill will towards him, let alone post scandalous rumours online in a place of such integrity as this great forum.

Your basic lack of understanding as to why they needed to pull the plug on this thread for a while is truly remarkable.

Steve · 12-12-2018 11:55pm

riemann wrote: »

Thank you to the moderators for all your tremendous work not just today but through all your lives.

Mr. Mcgregor is an individual of tremendous moral character and has never displayed any indication that he would behave in any manner other than law abiding.

Truly an inspiration to us all. I find it hard to believe anyone could harbor any ill will towards him, let alone post scandalous rumours online in a place of such integrity as this great forum.

Perhaps you thought I was joking?

1 month ban.

Autecher · 13-12-2018 12:55am

Khabib's da said they have agreed to a $500,000 fine and 9 month suspension which if true means Khabib would be eligible to fight from 6th July next year so international fight week could be his first title defense

xtal191 · 13-12-2018 1:18am

Khabib rarely fights in the summer cause of Ramadan

Ultimate Seduction · 13-12-2018 1:24am

cliggg wrote: »

Khabib's da said they have agreed to a $500,000 fine and 9 month suspension which if true means Khabib would be eligible to fight from 6th July next year so international fight week could be his first title defense

The interim belt is being polished as we speak. Hope its Dustin v Tony.
Really want Holloway to stay at 45 potential fights with mendes, Zabit , moicano, yair Rodriguez.

Subcomandante Marcos · 13-12-2018 1:39am

xtal191 wrote: »

Khabib rarely fights in the summer cause of Ramadan

Ends at the start of June next year.

TCM · 13-12-2018 1:46am

riemann wrote:

Thank you to the moderators for all your tremendous work not just today but through all your lives.

riemann wrote:

Mr. Mcgregor is an individual of tremendous moral character and has never displayed any indication that he would behave in any manner other than law abiding.

riemann wrote:

Truly an inspiration to us all. I find it hard to believe anyone could harbor any ill will towards him, let alone post scandalous rumours online in a place of such integrity as this great forum.

Are you feeling ok?

nathan99 · 13-12-2018 2:53am

Steve wrote: »

Perhaps you thought I was joking?

1 month ban.

bit harsh ay to ban him?

Kirby · 13-12-2018 6:35am

nathan99 wrote: »

bit harsh ay to ban him?

Welcome to the MMA forum.

Mellor · 13-12-2018 11:00am

xtal191 wrote: »

Khabib rarely fights in the summer cause of Ramadan

But ramadan ends on 4th June next year.

13-12-2018 11:29am

Ramadan effects training because they can't eat or drink (even water) before sunset. Basically reverse gremlins. For a fight in early July, half of his camp would be compromised and I doubt he would be up for it nowadays.

The Nal · 13-12-2018 11:32am

Kirby wrote: »

Welcome to the MMA forum.

I've had to stop reading and posting in it. Appreciate I'm posting in it now! Never seen mods as power hungry in any forum anywhere else on the internet. Its like being in Pinochets Chile.

Back on topic, athletes observing ramadan have it down. Khabib has fought a few times in the summer, in and around Ramadan. They just work through different schedules. And it can be flexible for pro athletes. Look at footballers in the world cup etc.

13-12-2018 11:48am

The Nal wrote: »

Back on topic, athletes observing ramadan have it down. Khabib has fought a few times in the summer, in and around Ramadan. They just work through different schedules. And it can be flexible for pro athletes. Look at footballers in the world cup etc.

I don't think he has fought during Ramadan in the UFC or with a large portion of his camp inside Ramadan. I would have to check the dates. Fighting a few times in summer means little because you can fight before it no problem.

He definitely refused to fight at least once due to it and I assume UFC are aware of his requirements.

The other thing is that he has a bit of money and fame now, and the belt. There's always a difference between a fighter chasing the belt and the same fighter after he wins it in terms of willingness to take fights they don't really want etc.

EagererBeaver · 13-12-2018 11:51am

The Nal wrote: »

. Its like being in Pinochets Chile

Christ on a ****ing bike.

Gamb!t · 13-12-2018 12:01pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

The interim belt is being polished as we speak. Hope its Dustin v Tony.
Really want Holloway to stay at 45 potential fights with mendes, Zabit , moicano, yair Rodriguez.

Holloway Rodriguez could be a great fight

evil_seed · 13-12-2018 12:41pm

riemann wrote: »

Thank you to the moderators for all your tremendous work not just today but through all your lives.

Mr. Mcgregor is an individual of tremendous moral character and has never displayed any indication that he would behave in any manner other than law abiding.

Truly an inspiration to us all. I find it hard to believe anyone could harbor any ill will towards him, let alone post scandalous rumours online in a place of such integrity as this great forum.

Brussels Sprout · 13-12-2018 1:24pm

cliggg wrote: »

Khabib's da said they have agreed to a $500,000 fine and 9 month suspension which if true means Khabib would be eligible to fight from 6th July next year so international fight week could be his first title defense

Ramadan ends on June the 4th so realistically to get a full 8 week fight camp in he probably won't be fighting until August if that is the case.

Edit: didn't see all the posts subsequent to the above basically saying the same thing

EagererBeaver · 13-12-2018 1:32pm

It would realistically be even later. He'd have to recover significantly after Ramadan before getting into a camp.

Rory28 · 13-12-2018 1:36pm

There is a different rumor being bandied around at the moment that I am very keen on. The Holloway rematch. Max has improved drastically since the first fight. I would love to see this fight either at 155 or 145 if McGregor can make the cut. Win his belt back and end the streak.

LollipopJimmy · 13-12-2018 1:37pm

I think the effects of Ramadan are being overstated. It's awkward with training but you can eat and drink what you like between sunset and sunrise

nelly17 · 13-12-2018 1:38pm

Does anyone here think we'll see the remaining 5 fights Conor is contracted for? I'm guessing it will cost him if we dont

AlmightyCushion · 13-12-2018 1:38pm

Rory28 wrote: »

There is a different rumor being bandied around at the moment that I am very keen on. The Holloway rematch. Max has improved drastically since the first fight. I would love to see this fight either at 155 or 145 if McGregor can make the cut. Win his belt back and end the streak.

I can't see McGregor making 145 easily. He'd need to a bit of muscle to do that.

Rory28 · 13-12-2018 1:40pm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I can't see McGregor making 145 easily. He'd need to a bit of muscle to do that.

True but Max has been toying with the idea of moving up. A great way to cement himself in 155 would be a win over Conor and vice versa for McGregor it would put him right back into the title mix even if I dont see a second Khabib fight going any different than the first.

AlmightyCushion · 13-12-2018 1:42pm

Rory28 wrote: »

True but Max has been toying with the idea of moving up. A great way to cement himself in 155 would be a win over Conor and vice versa for McGregor it would put him right back into the title mix even if I dont see a second Khabib fight going any different than the first.

Yeah, if the fight happens, it'll happen at 155.

John Sacrimoni · 13-12-2018 1:42pm

nelly17 wrote: »

Does anyone here think we'll see the remaining 5 fights Conor is contracted for? I'm guessing it will cost him if we dont

Probably a silly question but if he did break the contract, what could the UFC do to him with him being in Ireland.

nelly17 · 13-12-2018 1:45pm

John Sacrimoni wrote: »

Probably a silly question but if he did break the contract, what could the UFC do to him with him being in Ireland.

I honestly don't know but you make a good point. According to something I read yesterday (I don't know how old it was) he's making more from his Whiskey than his fighting, so with that in mind why would he care?

The Nal · 13-12-2018 1:46pm

nelly17 wrote: »

Does anyone here think we'll see the remaining 5 fights Conor is contracted for? I'm guessing it will cost him if we dont

If he gets beaten again I think he'll pack it in. He has nothing to fight for anymore. Dropping down and facing top 10s makes no sense. Diaz or a Khabib rematch is where the money is.

Good time to get Diaz as it'll be about 3 years since he last fought.

LollipopJimmy · 13-12-2018 1:59pm

As far as I know he is committed to 5 fights in the UFC but can retire and not fulfill this, it really only stops him fighting elsewhere

John Sacrimoni · 13-12-2018 2:03pm

nelly17 wrote: »

I honestly don't know but you make a good point. According to something I read yesterday (I don't know how old it was) he's making more from his Whiskey than his fighting, so with that in mind why would he care?

Id find it hard to believe that hes making more off the whiskey than fighting. The novelty wont last with the whiskey, of all the people i know that bought it, it was a once off thing for them.

I think we've seen the best of Conor we wont ever see him as good as he was against Alvarez. I wont be too bothered if i dont see him fight again, i would of been a fan before but in the last year ive really taken a strong dislike to him.

Hes just a scumbag with money. Theres nothing likeable about him anymore.

The Nal · 13-12-2018 2:07pm

John Sacrimoni wrote: »

Id find it hard to believe that hes making more off the whiskey than fighting. The novelty wont last with the whiskey, of all the people i know that bought it, it was a once off thing for them.

Not in America. The land of celebrity endorsements. They could bottle AIDS and throw the name McGregor, Kardashian, Clooney or Lebron James on it and people would buy it.

D'Agger · 13-12-2018 2:52pm

The Nal wrote: »

Not in America. The land of celebrity endorsements. They could bottle AIDS and throw the name McGregor, Kardashian, Clooney or Lebron James on it and people would buy it.

They tried it with Magic Johnson and it didn't work I think you'll find

PLOPS · 13-12-2018 2:58pm

The Nal wrote: »

Not in America. The land of celebrity endorsements. They could bottle AIDS and throw the name McGregor, Kardashian, Clooney or Lebron James on it and people would buy it.

You'd have to question anyone's mentality that'd buy a bottle of whiskey because Mcgregor put his name on it. They can't keep it in the shops in Ireland, Americans are driving to other states for a bottle of it. You have to give it to him, he's selling 18.99euro bottles of Whiskey for 35.00euro, still think anyone who buys it has zero sense.

The Nal · 13-12-2018 3:05pm

People paid $120 for this. A white tshirt. People are morons.

D.Q · 13-12-2018 3:06pm

Really hope he fights in 2019.

Always brings a proper sense of occasion and spectacle to the UFC.

People seem to forget just how good he can be.

I know Khabib beat him,but I think it could be different next time out.

Surely with some proper training he'll be sharper on the feet.

Two weight world champions don't just forget how to fight

?

Rory28 · 13-12-2018 3:12pm

D.Q wrote: »

Really hope he fights in 2019.

Always brings a proper sense of occasion and spectacle to the UFC.

People seem to forget just how good he can be.

I know Khabib beat him,but I think it could be different next time out.

Surely with some proper training he'll be sharper on the feet.

Two weight world champions don't just forget how to fight

?

He would have got the proper training to beat Khabib if he wasnt spread so thin. He is a whisky merchant, a fashion guru, a social media darling, head of whatever the maclife is. Khabib is just a fighter. He was and is the more focused of the two. Also the whole wrestler vs striker debate always falls on the side of the wrestler.

PLOPS · 13-12-2018 3:16pm

The Nal wrote: »

People paid $120 for this. A white tshirt. People are morons.

TBF it's a lovely Tshirt, nice design, and the colour is great. That's a fair price for a Kanye original, think of all the hours put into designing a garment. :pac:

AlmightyCushion · 13-12-2018 3:17pm

PLOPS wrote: »

TBF it's a lovely Tshirt, nice design, and the colour is great. That's a fair price for a Kanye original, think of all the hours put into designing a garment. :pac:

He is a visionary, a genius, a lyrical wordsmith...

MarkHenderson · 13-12-2018 3:27pm

Surely his pride would see him in a rematch against Khabib? It doesn't matter if he has another 4 fights against Cowboy and whoever else and wins them all that defeat and the manner of it would hang over him until the day he dies. Can't see it happening though because the lifestyle he lives wouldn't permit it.

nelly17 · 13-12-2018 3:42pm

I think he'll probably do the Diaz fight then he's out, if he has another loss he wont be as big a pull for PPV numbers and he has lost his stock pretty much. Only the PPV numbers themselves will tell.

TerrorFirmer · 13-12-2018 4:43pm

nelly17 wrote: »

I think he'll probably do the Diaz fight then he's out, if he has another loss he wont be as big a pull for PPV numbers and he has lost his stock pretty much. Only the PPV numbers themselves will tell.

I don't think so, he has a fair few losses to go before people lose interest.

He's not just a top level fighter, he's also a top level celebrity. Unless he starts losing consistently and/or badly to a string of #6/7 level fighters or whatever, he'll continue to be a major draw (and arguably still would even then).

His next fight or fights will be against high level guys so there's always a chance he'll lose, but hardly any shame in it as long as he puts up a decent scrap.

His performance in the Khabib match is being blown out of porportion largely by casual viewers, it may not have been his best performance ever (or played best to his strengths more accurately maybe) but it wasn't half as bad as is made out considering the opposition.

McGregor draws in huge numbers of casual viewers, who generally don't have much appreciation for the various factors in a fight like with Khabib and all they see is 'Oh, he lost badly'.

But losing badly, and performing badly, aren't the same thing. I mean, Ortega lost pretty badly to Max, but he didn't necessarily perform badly...he was just outclassed by the best in the world on the night.

McGregor v Khabib is not really much different but the difference is the huge number of casual fans who correlate being dominated with being a bad fighter....I've grown so tired of all the comments on the likes of Facebook about how the Khabib fight 'exposed' him as some sort of fraud.

The man lost in the 4th round to the best LW in the world. It happens. No big deal and didn't tell us anything about Conor we didn't already know.

He'll continue to be a significant draw for the UFC as long as he wants to keep the game going, win, lose or draw, realistically.

Effects · 13-12-2018 5:00pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

But losing badly, and performing badly, aren't the same thing. I mean, Ortega lost pretty badly to Max, but he didn't necessarily perform badly...he was just outclassed by the best in the world on the night.

The difference there is how Conor and Ortega treated their opponents before their fights.
I know people say that's the way Conor has always been. But it's a reason to not like him and be happy when he loses.
I didn't watch too much of the build up, but Ortega always seemed pretty respectful towards Max.

Effects · 13-12-2018 5:03pm

PLOPS wrote: »

You'd have to question anyone's mentality that'd buy a bottle of whiskey because Mcgregor put his name on it.

That's the way most advertising works. You fall for it yourself. Just not for crap whiskey!

nelly17 wrote: »

According to something I read yesterday (I don't know how old it was) he's making more from his Whiskey than his fighting

There's zero chance of that. Where did you read it, The Maclife?

Autecher · 13-12-2018 5:16pm

Effects wrote: »

There's zero chance of that. Where did you read it, The Maclife?

Kavanagh said it in his interview with Kimmage last week.

BigMo1 · 13-12-2018 5:16pm

Effects wrote: »

That's the way most advertising works. You fall for it yourself. Just not for crap whiskey!

There's zero chance of that. Where did you read it, The Maclife?

JK said it in his Indo interview. Still almost definitely BS though.

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