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Beasty's 2011 assault on the vets

  • 19-12-2010 7:50pm
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    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭


    Hopefully there will be a bit more structure to my 2011 training.

    2010 was all about getting kilometres into the legs, but when I set the 10,000km target I had no intention of taking racing seriously. It was simply a matter of fitter, faster, further. Having said that, the distance I have covered has given me an excellent base for 2011.

    So what will 2011 be about? It will be focussed on some specific racing targets. Distance is not going to be an end, but a means to an end. In 2010 I found myself overdoing it sometimes during the racing season, simply to get the kilometres in.

    In terms of specific targets, I really want to see what I can achieve TT'ing. I now have the bike, and will be getting the wheels in the New Year. The intention is they will serve me for both the road and track (I will be able to convert the rear disc wheel for track user)

    My primary aim is to improve on my 3 fourth places in the IVCA track championships. I want a medal, and my best chance is in the 2km TT, where I was just a few seconds off 3rd place in October. Given it was my first experience of track racing, all those ahead of me had specialist aero wheels, and were using TT bars, I am hopeful. But ultimately it’s down to form on the day, and who turns up. My time for the 2km TT on the Kanturk track was 3m 4s, and I am confident I will be able to break 3 minutes at Sundrive. Indeed, if I get decent conditions I would hope to get down to around 2m 50s

    I want to do a few more vets road TTs also. My best times are 24:49 for 10m and 1:04:52 for 25m, I would like to break 24 minutes and 63 minutes respectively, and hopefully some new wheels will help.

    The vets TT league runs on Tuesday nights, which means I will be cutting back on Swords league racing. I will form a plan once the respective race calendars are out, but I will not be looking to do up to 3 hard races a week. I will try and get some track racing in also (which is on Wednesday evenings, the same night as the Swords league), and if I get a chance I may try my hand at one or two of the Dublin Wheelers TTs.

    There are some “special” challenges also:

    Beat RobFowl in a sprint finish
    Don't let RobFowl beat me in any TT
    40k in the hour - if I get the opportunity I would like to give this a go on the track in Manchester again, although I will not let this distract me from my other objectives.

    Oh, and yes, it would be nice to get at least one extra point (beyond those awarded for simply turning up!) in the Swords League.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭GlennaMaddy


    40k in 1hr would be something to talk about, you were so close last year and you'd be able to taunt your rivals with 'I did 10,000km in one year, and 40km in one hour -beat that'


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Given the weather, a decent start to the New Year - 241km at 29.2kph, including a track session in Manchester on Tuesday, a commute, 3 evening sessions, 40 minutes on the turbo and I have just started a tour of hotel gyms

    Next week will be more gym bike sessions...


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Bit of an odd week - I managed to get into various hotel gyms on each day, except Friday (which was not surprising really, as where I was Friday only lasted 4 hours!!)

    Managed over 8 hours in total for 240+ km.

    Next week will be more of the same, but with the added advantage that it will stretch to 179 hours (which is 27 more hours than I encountered this week;)).

    Hopefully I may even get to try a real bike on some real potholes over the weekend


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    World tour of hotel gyms completed - Melbourne and Singapore this week - 7+ hours for over 210km in total (as well as 30+ hours hanging around airports and planes)

    I resisted the temptation to go out this evening, given all the number of stories of recent crashes in the main forum - my own elbows are only just getting over a spill on ice 2 and a half weeks ago - 3 layers of clothing were largely undamaged, but I ended up with large friction burns and and a bruised hip.

    Hopefully I'll get a commute or two in this week (weather permitting) in addition to some turbo sessions


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Delighted to get back out on the road this week - a commute and 3 evening sessions, totalling 132km. I was going to head out again tonight but the plummeting temperature and memories of last February gave me the excuse to stay in.

    Some of my power records towards the end of last year were inaccurate, as the Powertap was not zeroing correctly - that's now heading back for repair under warranty. Fortunately the spare which had been lent to a couple of other riders has returned so I am now back to reliable power records. This time last year I had been using the Powertap for around 5 months, and had bettered 900w on only 2 occasions in that time. Last night I got over 900w on 5 separate occasions (beating 960w 3 times). My normalised power for the week has been around 260w, with over 280w for an hour last night (which is a PB), and everything is looking encouraging.

    Total distance for January 833km at 29.4kph

    I'm away for 3 days next week. Hopefully I should still get an hour on the track a commute and a couple of evening sessions (weather permitting). I


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Was your PT reading low or high ? how did you know it was out


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    levitronix wrote: »
    Was your PT reading low or high ? how did you know it was out
    Some of the time it was showing a reading when was coasting, and on other occasions it was showing zero when I was putting light pressure on the pedals - I reckon it was typically in the range + or - 40w or so. I tried re-calibrating it and changing the batteries, but, although it would sometimes appear OK, the readings would subsequently move one way or the other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭michael196


    Beasty wrote: »

    Total distance for January 833km at 29.4kph


    I am around the same mileage for the month, but not that same speed !!!

    think I am begining to understand the ''nick'' name ''Beasty'' !!


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    michael196 wrote: »
    I am around the same mileage for the month, but not that same speed !!!

    think I am begining to understand the ''nick'' name ''Beasty'' !!
    A lot of the time in January was spent on gym bikes, and so the speed was a bit arbitrary. Having said that, I averaged around this for the whole of 2010, and it's a reasonable approximation (an hour on the Manchester track at 38kph+ always helps also)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Back in Manchester today, and I had a session on the track at lunchtime. This time I had my own bike, so have accurate speed, distance and HR data. I managed to to 37.85km in 58m 34s. However when I ignore the speed up and slow down segments I actually averaged 39.35kph over 55 minutes. This was without any warm-up and is only 200m short of my hour attempt back in August.

    It's not directly comparable, as I had benefit of some drafting today, but that was probably for only about a third of the session, and I was only on the drops for about half of it. Average HR was 167, lifting to 170-175 when I was riding solo. I hit 183 at one stage, which is only 3 off the highest I have ever recorded. Even then, I did not feel as if I was pushing as hard as I could.

    I even managed to put a couple of 2km TTs into the course of the session, both coming in at under 3 minutes, with one right at the end of the hour at 2m 55s, which is 8s faster than I managed (from a standing start) at the vets championships in October.

    Hopefully with the addition of aero-helmet, skinsuit, aero-bars, overshoes and the new wheel, I will soon be able to crack the 40km


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Legs were aching for a couple of days after Tuesday's track exertions. I managed a commute on Friday and then a couple of evening sessions over the weekend, to make a total distance of 147km at 29.3kph. Year to date 980km at 29.4kph

    Before the weekend my maximum power achieved was 1,012w. On Saturday I managed to push this up to 1,061w, with another couple of 1,000w+ surges. Tonight I improved this further to 1,100w with a total of 5 x 1,000w+ surges. In addition I managed to achieve a normalised power of 300w for 1hr 7m. This is 20w higher than I have done before (except with the dodgy Powertap a few weeks ago)

    The power curve is therefore moving in the right direction. The black line shows what I achieved tonight, with the coloured section showing where I was at before the weekend:

    cp060211.jpg?t=1297028178


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,140 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Well done on cracking 300W/hr. I still think you're cheating using NP though. :)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    My first 25mTT of the season will be the real test ...

    Having said that, working back from my speed on the track on Tuesday, I must have been pretty close then (and it definitely felt a lot harder than tonight)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A paltry 111km this week, all between Monday and Wednesday - since then I've been travelling and home-alone with the kids, so unable to get out. I guess that makes this a rest week. I think I was probably due it after last week's exertions.

    Although total mileage is down on last year (1,091km v 1,495km), I feel the quality is much better. At this time in 2010 I had no real racing ambitions, and was simply focussed on getting the distance in. Average speed is up (29.0kph v 28.3kph). I don't have the normalised power data from the corresponding period last year, and average (pedalling) power is only slightly up (223w v 221w), but I am now regularly hitting much higher maximum (up nearly 30% at 1,100).

    Next week will be mainly evening sessions - hopefully the distance will be back up again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭biomed32


    yo Beasty, dont be too hard on yourself, your flyin it at the moment. I also feel your right in saying that its the quality is better this year in comparison to last year and your average speed is testement to this. Keep it up:)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Ongoing problems with the showers at work meant no commutes this week, and so I've done 5 evening sessions, totalling 151km

    YTD now stands at 1.242km at 28.5kph

    Next week is likely to be much of the same. Although I would like to get some longer spins in, it looks like this will have to wait until I can recommence the commutes.

    The good news is that I should now be able to improve on what I was doing at this time last year (when I was off the bike as a result of a broken wrist)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    With one Powertap wheel now being rebuilt, after blowing up on Wednesday's commute, fortunately the other had arrived back from its warranty repair on Monday. So I have been able to at least confirm some of my recent power records are consistent across the two Powertaps

    A bit more done this week than in the corresponding one last year (which was the only week all year when I failed to do any cycling based training as a result of my broken wrist and bad roadrash following my fall on ice)

    I managed 5 evening sessions in addition to the ill-fated commute. Total distance 207km, bringing the YTD total to 1,449km at 28.1kph

    I did some hill work on Monday and Tuesday, but after some intervals on Thursday my hamstrings were feeling a bit tight. Despite that I've been out over the last couple of evenings when I have tried to push up the short end of the CP graph. I've also been doing a few minutes high cadence/low resistance work during each session.

    I've managed 14 x 1,000w+ surges over the past couple of nights which is particularly pleasing given the state of my hamstrings and when at this time last year I would have been happy with surges over 800w. I was only 12w adrift of my maximum tonight, so hopefully I'll be surpassing that when the temperatures rise a bit

    A couple of days rest next, as I'll be away until Wednesday, then it will be a commute or two and some more evening sessions next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Fecking hell thats some damage to the wheel, did it burst on the rim weld ?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    levitronix wrote: »
    Fecking hell thats some damage to the wheel, did it burst on the rim weld ?
    No - I suspect there was some rim damage from hitting a pothole or stone


  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭mc2000


    I think that it might be rim wear Beasty [someone else in that thread said something along those lines I think as well] - I know you said you didn't do loads of miles on it, but what would matter more is especially if you did those miles over winter, and all the crud gets stuck onto the brake blocks, and they then act like grinders to your rim. Especially on a commute you might be doing more braking as well, so more wear, and over winter is way worse than in spring/summer when all the wet and road crud gets embedded into the brakes. And on a commuter bike you might not, er, worry about diligently cleaning the rim every time you do a spin :rolleyes:

    One thing to do is check the rim with your fingers, if you can feel like theres a kind of concave trough in it, you know it's wearing thin - some rims also have a wear indicator [e.g. the aksiums have a black line, and when you can't see that anymore, it's time to dump the wheel - I used to have a pair of Xero wheels and they had an "X" in the rim as a wear indicator - I remember that wearing quite quickly, especially the rear wheel]


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ...or more accurately the wheels that cost a fortune

    Got to try out the new wheels on the TT bike today. The only time the bike had been out before was for the Boards 10mTT back in August. There were no special wheels that time (except for the Powertap)

    It was a short session, just to try it out, now I have the tyres and Quarq installed.

    I decided to compare performance with my road bike, and included an out and back route that was 2.5km in total to test what difference the wheels made. A more scientific option would have been to simply swap the wheels over on the TT bike, but I couldn't be bothered to go to that much trouble

    The key was to try and maintain similar speeds while adopting similar riding styles. I chose to try and ride fairly upright on both bikes - on the hoods on the road bike, and bull bars on the TT bike. However there is still bound to be a level of inaccuracy

    The results, when adjusting for the relevant power outputs - the TT bike was around 1.5kph faster than the road bike. This could be worth over 2 minutes over a 25m TT - hopefully even more in full aero position when compared to the clip-ons I used the last time I did a 25m TT

    While on the road bike, I also managed to push up my maximum power output from a previous PB of 1,100w to 1,128w. Daylight helped and I'm hopeful I can push this a bit further, particularly when it starts to warn up.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Two commutes and another three evening sessions since Wednesday - total distance 195km in just over 7 hours, bringing the YTD total 1,644km at 28.1kph

    Managed to hit a new power peak tonight - 1,153w. I've been pushing up the short end of the power curve quite a bit in recent weeks. A couple of weeks ago 1,000w was a threshhold I rarely breached, and then I started surpassing this several times on each session. Now I seem to be able to exceed 1,100w, not quite at will, but I have done it six times over the past couple of days, and I seem to be getting over 1,050w pretty much every session.

    My 5 second peak power now stands at around 12.3w/kg, which gets me into the lower half of "Category 5" racers in the Hunter Allen "Racing and Training with a Power Meter" book. I feel there remains room for improvement, as I have been hitting some of the peaks when far from fresh

    The next interval in the book is 1 minute, where I am floundering at the "untrained/non racer" level at around 5.7w/kg. This is clearly something I need to focus on! My output for intervals between 30s and 3 minutes is pretty poor, although I suspect I just need to find an opportunity to test this when I am reasonably fresh to push the power curve up a bit

    Moving onto the 5 minute interval, this is something I get a bit of practice on when climbing some of the local hills. I am at 4w/kg which gets me in the top half of Category 4, or nearly in the bottom of Category 3, which I am delighted with

    The final "test level" is at functional threshhold. Based on my recent normalised power, I am at about 3.4w/kg, which again gets me into the bottom of the category 3 level. I guess this supports the view that my strengths lie in TTs, where I can churn out the power consistently over long periods.

    Of course, the other way I can push all these measures up a bit is by losing a bit of weight. Another 3kg should be readily achievable without any material impact on my power output, and this would improve my w/kg by 3.3% or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Beasty im kinda in around the same power levels as you, i ve hit 1200 watts and 5s at 1115 but i cant do it so far in a race, i cant get the wind up i get in trainning and so far have not been in the right gear or right position to try and unload :(


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Opportunities in a race to hit those levels will be few and far between - you'll be knackering yourself if you do it early on, and unless you've managed to get some pretty good shelter the chances are you would not have that sort of power in you for a sprint finish

    Having said that, you're new to the power meter, and you may not yet have reached your potential - it's taken me getting on for 18 months to build up the strength, and work out when/where best to unleash it to maximise power output


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,140 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Gissa fresh CP curve mista.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Lumen wrote: »
    Gissa fresh CP curve mista.
    You show me yours first ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,140 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Beasty wrote: »
    You show me yours first ....

    I don't have one. My current training plan involves no actual training.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    It's just I feel as if I'm the only boardsie regularly flashing mine around on the internet ....

    There's actually not much to add to the one I put up a month ago - peak power has improved, but nothing else. I don't get a chance to do much at threshhold over the 30mins - 1hr+ range until I do some racing - can only get out for an hour or so on an evening, or the commutes.

    It does mean I am neglecting the long spins, although total distance is still OK, and when I do commute I tend to get nearly a couple of hours in during the day

    I'm hoping some serious TT attempts will push up the long end of the CP curve (although given the way the vets handicapping works, I need to be a bit careful I don't push too hard too early in the season;)) - this is where my best performances came from last year

    Anyway, just for you, I'll dig out my latest CP curve tonight.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    So here it is, with Sunday's session shown as the black line:

    cp060311.jpg?t=1299623460


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭chakattack


    You're certainly living up to your name with that cp curve :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,140 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Excellent. Time for some 2 min intervals :)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    3 evening sessions and an hour on the track added up to 112km this week, bringing the YTD to 1,756km at 28kph.

    Racing is expected to commence in a couple of weeks with the vets league - the first race is a DMS - it's billed at 60km, so I'm guessing it will be nearer 45km!

    I'll be away on a couple of occasions next week, and should get one track session in. I'll be trying to get out on the other evenings during the week. Hopefully I'll manage to get a couple of hundred km in, and will then ease off a bit for the week before the first race


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Champions League football returned to Old Trafford this evening, which meant I had an hour booked on the track this lunchtime

    The day did not start well - I was just after 4 o'clock this morning to discover a back twinge from yesterday's spin had turned into a full-grown back spasm. Lumping my gear across a couple of airports did not help matters.

    Anyway, a couple of ibuprofen and a few stretches/exercises and I was ready to go at noon. Tuesday is normally dominated by a group of pensioners, and today was no exception, with me being the youngest on the track.

    I started off reasonably strongly, counting the laps as I went along. I was overtaking everyone on the track, until the 4 strongest riders formed a group - they were pretty much opposite me on the track, and the next 40 laps or so turned into a pursuit - they were on the red line, and me on the blue, which meant I was putting an extra 5% or so into each lap. They started catching me a bit, so I pushed harder. Then one of them dropped off for a break, then another until there were just two of them. I managed to hold them off, and the final 2 then dropped off the track, leaving me to continue, albeit at a slightly reduced pace given there was no longer a chase on.

    I continued for another 50 laps or so, and the other were back on the track - again a foursome, but again they dropped off one by one. Eventually only one remained - the fastest (aged 69), and we did a couple of laps of line-lapping - the break this provided rejuvinated me and I sped up again, as he dropped back down to the red line

    Laps 101, 102, 103 ticked over, and then I pulled alongside the fast rider again - we had a quick chat then, drat, I lost count! A bit of guesswork and I was back in the routine for the rest of the session. In the end I did around 144 laps, which equated to just under 38km given the line I was taking, in 59 minutes (including speeding up and slowing down laps). When I got off the track I could barely walk. I spoke to the guys and they confirmed they had been lapping at around 24mph, which means I must have been doing around 40kph for a lot of the session, and an overall speed of 39 kph

    I now need to get my own bike over, with the new wheels, to give it a go, and hopefully crack the 40km - bring on the quarter-final;)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    197km this week - my back continued playing up, although it's not as bad now as it was at the start of the week, and I managed to hit a new power peak of 1,174w tonight, with another 4 1,100w+ surges

    YTD total now stands at 1,952km at 28kph

    I hope to do my first race of the season next Sunday, so will aim at another couple of evening sessions early in the week, before easing off towards the end of the week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭michael196


    oh gosh, here comes the big guns ....

    what category do u race Beasty ?


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    michael196 wrote: »
    oh gosh, here comes the big guns ....
    - err... not quite - I've never gained any points other than those they give for turning up
    michael196 wrote: »
    what category do u race Beasty ?
    - the slow one

    It's the vets races I am talking about - there's a DMS next week and I expect to be in the middle of 3 races (there are 6 vets categories, and based on last year I should be in the 4th (ie 3rd slowest)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    180km this week, including 50km in today's vets race. YTD now stands at 2,132km at 28.1kph

    As mentioned in my race report the back was playing up a bit today, although I also probably did not give myself enough recovery time following a hard session on Thursday evening.

    I still need to get a bit smarter during races, and avoid staying too near the back of the bunch, as it's probably the catching back up out of the corners where I end up putting the extra effort in. My power stats today were not too bad given the state of my back, and related sciatica.

    Next week will probably include a couple of commutes and maybe a couple of evening sessions


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    4 commutes and a couple of evening sessions this week resulted in 243km (my longest weekly distance of the year to date) at 27.5kph. Given the windy conditions, I'm not too unhappy with the average, and my YTD total now stands at 2,375km at 28kph

    I managed to improve my 5 minute Power from 359w to 386w (normalised 389w) this evening, which means I have now improved pretty much all intervals up to about 6 minutes over the winter. I have improved longer intervals on a normalised basis also, although I am hoping absolute improvements come along when I start doing some TTs (my existing PBs have been set during TTs)

    Tonight's power/CP curve:

    cp030411.jpg?t=1301869395

    Subject to the back problems it feels like everything is starting to come together for the new season (I know, famous last words....)

    The back spasm has settled down a bit, although I am still feeling the sciatica in one leg - in theory this will diminish power output, but I suspect in my case it does not make much difference.

    Looks like I won't be racing next week due to family commitmemnts, which means my next race will be the start of the Swords League a week on Wednesday, with a 5 and a half minute or so uphill TT;)

    In the meantime, I'll be looking to get a bit more distance in ths sweek with a few commutes and perhaps another couple of evening sessions


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    4 commutes and an evening session resulted in 210km at 29.6kph this week, bringing the YTD total to 2,586km at 28.1kph.

    Training has been focussed on the start of the Swords League next week - a 1.81km hill climb on Wednesday. Last year (in my first ever "race") I managed to do this in 5 minutes 22 seconds. With temperatures rising and winds abated I've got myself and the bike in "race trim", and set about giving the hill a go last night.

    I reckon every kg of weight I can lose will save me 2 seconds on the course (4.5% average slope). Every 2 watts of extra power saves a second or so. Hence I stripped the bike to the bare minimum (except for my prefernce for multiple computers on the bars) and installed the new wheels. Overall the combination of bike and rider is perhaps 3-4kg lighter than last year. Power output is up about 20 watts, and the only other factor is the wind.

    In terms of gearing, last year I used an 11-27. I've done the hill a few times out of the saddle for the most part in recent weeks, on the 23. So now, to avoid temptation, I've installed an 11-23.

    So how did I perform? I'm not telling. It can wait until after Wednesday:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,140 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Hey Mr Power Meters Man....

    You might find this interesting. I came across it whilst wondering about TSS, BikeScore and Daniels Points.

    There's a bit of geek-handbags-at-dawn which adds a bit of human interest :D

    Upshot: I might start using DanielsPoints to track training load, because it deals with imperfect (i.e. Garmin) data better.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭mc2000


    Hey Beasty don't forget about the Vets and your assault thereon! Expect to see you there next Sunday in Batterstown, it's a CP, go on you'll love it!

    Never mind those just-over-a-mile hilly time trials [i'm marshalling that one] - good to hear your back seems to have settled down, so get yerself back out on the road racing:pac:


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    mc2000 wrote: »
    Hey Beasty don't forget about the Vets and your assault thereon! Expect to see you there next Sunday in Batterstown, it's a CP, go on you'll love it!

    Never mind those just-over-a-mile hilly time trials [i'm marshalling that one] - good to hear your back seems to have settled down, so get yerself back out on the road racing:pac:
    Assault is aimed at the TT/Midweek Leagues!

    Sundays remain difficult because of family commitments (and the prospect of another European Cup final, with ticket already secured, although Dirk may be seeking that out after tonight:eek:). The family are away over Easter though

    This Sunday is dependent on the FA Cup Semi Final. If we beat them in normal time with a bit of luck I should be home in the evening, and hopefully racing on Sunday. If it goes to extra time (I know it's City we are playing, but you can't rule it out), it will be the first flight back on Sunday (both options are booked ;))

    Back spasm has calmed down, but the sciatica remains, so I have not yet run out of excuses


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Firstly the stats from Wednesday's "event"

    Total time 5m 18s (v 5m 22s last year, when the course was about 20m shorter, we had a bit of a tailwind, and there was no mud on the rosd)

    Average Power - 376w (362w)
    Maximum power - 800w (605w) - I actually took it a bit easier setting off second time after the chain broke on my first attempt
    Cadence - 72 (77) - gearing was all to pot on the spare bike - I have been averaging around 68 on recent attempts when I have been pushing it out of the saddle, but the mud made this impossible thie time
    Heart Rate - Average 167 (163), max 173 (171) - I was certainly better warmed up this time;)

    I'll probably give it another go soon, in more "stable" conditions

    So today it moved onto Batterstown for an 80k (actually 64km) CP (unlike last time when the billed 60km turned into 65km). The whether was great, if a little chilly at 9.15 this morning.

    2 laps of the circuit, incorporating Dorey's Forge. The first group had 8 minutes over the second, who in turn had 4 minutes over us, with subsequent groups starting at 4 minute intevals

    We had a large group, and everything ran fairly smoothly for the first lap. Then we caught the first two groups, and were caught by the 4th group, resulting in a very large group of probably 100+, which made it a bit hairy at times

    I decided to stay reasonably well advanced which worked to my advantage second time up Dorey's Forge when the group split. I was actually finding it relatively easy going and managed to maintain my position.

    After the final corner it was a mad dash to the line. I did not appreciate how quickly it was coming up, and still had plenty in me when we went through it.

    Stats:
    Distance 63.67km
    Speed - 36.4kph (average), 57.1kph (max)
    Power - 228w (average), 242w (pedalling), 266w (normalised), 976w (max)
    Work - 1,337kJ
    Heart rate - 151 (average), 182 (max)
    Cadence - 83

    Tactically I fared much better in this race than in previous ones. It was the easiest I have found any race, and my main error was not getting myself positioned for the final sprint


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    So after Wednesday's escapade on the Swords Hill climb I had to use the spare bike on Thursday's commute. I've not used it that much, and it's almost as new.

    On the way home, heading up the hill, out of the saddle - crunch then crash, as I hit the deck for the second time in 24 hours. The plaster on my knee come off, and I end up with cuts on top of cuts. Indeed the damage was quite a bit worse than that suffered on Wednesday - and it was the chain again - it had kinked at the joining pin, and came off the big ring. The chain was almost new, and I guess the pin was not properly engaged.

    This prompted me to go and retrieve the damaged chain from Wednesday - again it was just about a month old and had only done about a thousand km or so, That one had snapped at a normal link. When I restarted the hill climb on Wednesday I took it a bit gingerly, but still hit 800w, and I suspect I was pushing out quite a bit more on the ill-fated attempt.

    Anyway, there were no further dramas in today's vets race. It was so relatively easy I decided to go out and give Ardgillan another go tonight. The weather was similar to Wednesday, but fortunately there was no wet mud on the road this time

    I clocked 5m 18s, which is identical to my time on Wednesday. Bearing in mind this was after this morning's race, I am hopeful there is more in me, and at some stage I would like to break 5 minutes for the climb. Power was slightly down (366w versus 376w), but interestingly normalised power was only 3w higher, whereas on Wednesday it was about 18w higher, perhaps highlighting the more stop and start nature of that attempt given road conditions, and the gearing problems I had

    This week's total distance 160km, bringing the YTD total to 2,746km at 28.2kph

    Next week will hopefully see races in the Swords League on Wednesday and the vets on Sunday


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    This week saw the Swords League race on Wednesday and Vets DMS today, plus a recce of the Bog of the Ring course in advance of next Wednesday's Swords League race

    Total distance was only 135km, but it was pretty intense with normalised power averaging over 260w, and average speed of 32.6km to bring the YTD total to 2,881km at 28.4kph

    That will probably be the end of the Sunday racing until the school summer holidays, as family commitments return. The vets midweek league kicks off a week on Tuesday with a 10mTT, which will give me chance to try out the new wheels. I need to get out on the TT bike though, as the only times it has been out previously was for the boards 10mTT last August and a short spin to try out the new wheels a few weeks ago.

    I'm away on Tuesday, so may go for a shortish recovery spin tomorrow night, before the Swords League race on Wednesday


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Race report from last night here

    Now for the stats:

    Average speed - 36.1kph
    Power - average 254w, pedalling 271w, normalised, 283w max 883w
    HR - average 166, max 181
    Cadence - average 85, pedalling 89

    It was exactly a minute slower than my fastest time last year on this course, when I averaged 37 kph in a much larger Group 2 (that was never caught - it was towards the end of the season when everyone was quite fit and taking their turns at the front)

    Last night I was averaging about 37kph (293w normalised power) before we were eventually obliterated by scratch, and I was spending quite a lot of time on the front. Interestingly last year my overall average cadence was 78, but when I was pedalling it was 96, a difference of nearly 30%, whereas last night the difference was less than 5%, which highlights how much more time I was spending leading the group or on my own. I think the wind must have been worse last year as my normalised power was also 283w, with an average of 248w and pedalling 280w.

    If the pace had been a bit steadier when we were caught I may have hung on, but as it was the second half of the final lap turned into a bit of a TT, which I guess is good preparation for the first vets TT of the year - a 10-miler next Tuesday

    Here's the power curve from last night:

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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    The Swords League race on Wednesday, a commute on Friday and 3 short evening sessions resulted in a total of 148km this week at an average of 29.9kph. This brings the YTD total to 3,030km at 28.4kph.

    The vets TT league kicks off on Tuesday with a 10 miler on the Black Bull Course at Batterstown. I've done 4 10m TTs previously, two of which were on this course. I did the first one in last years vets league in 25m 6s which will be my handicap time for Tuesday. I also did the Boards 10m TT last August in 24m 49s.

    To date I have improved my time every time I have attempted 10 miles, and this time I'll have the new wheels. Forecast is for it to be a bit windy (and in particular a head-wind on the way back), so I tried the TT setup last night in quite windy conditions - the good news is I was not blown off!

    I'll be pleased with anything which improves my handicap, assuming the wind is not too bad.

    I'm prioritising the Champions League semi-final this week, so will be giving the Swords League race on Wednesday a miss - this means I also miss out on 3 ascents of Ardcath:D. I should get an hour on the track on Thursday, and will be trying to get out a couple of times over the weekend.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Tonight saw the start of the vets TT and midweek league, with a 10-miler on the Black Bull course

    The TT League is one of my main focuses for the year, so I guess this is where it starts getting serious

    Over 40 in total taking part, and I was number 10 off. There was an easterly wind which would be hampering the return, but should have assisted the first half.

    I set the Garmin to lap every 4km, and tracked my average power in each 4km (approximately 1/4 distance) segment. I was expecting the 3rd quarter, with headwind and slight incline (13m climbing) to be hardest

    I set off at my allotted time, and found myself putting out nearly 300w for the most of the first quarter, but was averaging 39.5kph. I was expecting to be slowed down in the second half, so was slightly disappointed to not be cracking the 40kph mark, as it did feel as if I was working very hard. The computer beeped and I glanced down to see a time of 6m 4s. The next quarter I kept up the same speed, but my average power was down to 265w - I felt reasonably comfortable, and wanted to save up something for the return into the headwind.

    The computer beeped again exactly half way round the roundabout, and I set off on my return journey. I felt like I was pushing only slightly harder, but maintaining my lap speed at 39.5kph. Although my main aim was to beat handicap (25m 6s), I was hoping to go as fast as 24m 30s, and if I could keep this speed up I would just about do it.

    Into the final quarter and I was still on target for 24m 30s. As I went through Batterstown I was thinking I would just about get there. Just before the end I finally had another rider in my sights - my 6 minute man (admitedly he is over 25 years older than me!), and I rolled in just after him

    My time - 24m 25s, a 2.75% improvement on handicap and 24s faster than my previous best time in the Boards TT last August. I feel there is more to come, particularly in more benign conditions.

    Now for the interesting bit - my pacing. I had no intention of doing this, but my splits for the 4 x 4km segments were:

    6:04:36
    6:05:00
    6:05:00
    6:05:00

    ie I hit exactly the same time, to a hundredth of a second, in 3 of the segments, and was less than 2/3 of a second faster in the other! I thought there must have been a mistake when I saw the lap times, but they do add up (together with another 6s or so for the final bit) to my total time for the ride.

    Power output was 267w average, 273w normalised, 446w max
    Splits - 292w, 264w, 267w, 249w
    Cadence average - 95, which is very high for me, and perhaps reflects the better shifting available with the bar-end shifters

    Hopefully I'll be back for another crack on the same course next Tuesday, with again my main aim being to improve handicap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Is this the same route as the Batterstown 25m TT? But just out to the firt roundabout and back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,140 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Beasty wrote: »
    6:05:00
    6:05:00
    6:05:00

    Cyborg!


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