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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    keithkk16 wrote: »
    I made a techno thing 128bpm
    https://soundcloud.com/scoob89/bunatee

    Toe tapping goodness. When all the elements are together it flows very well. Some nice percussion programming. The only thing I don't like personally is that guiro sound that plays at 0.31 and a few other places.
    What kind of automation have you at the start of the main melody loops. Is a combo of volume and filter? Works well in any event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    mordeith wrote: »
    Toe tapping goodness. When all the elements are together it flows very well. Some nice percussion programming. The only thing I don't like personally is that guiro sound that plays at 0.31 and a few other places.
    What kind of automation have you at the start of the main melody loops. Is a combo of volume and filter? Works well in any event.

    Thanks Mordeith. I was going for some Alien like sounds with the guiro thing :P
    Yeah the start is a combination of a filter on the main synth and then cutting out the low eq on some of the pad/drones like a filter so they all rise at the same time at the start then all come together when the hi hats come in. I hope that made sense:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭DJ SC




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    DJ SC wrote: »

    Pretty sweet bit more length and a tad less distortion on the kick imo. Second listen think it might be the distortion on the hats actually, something not sitting right there, can't put my finger on it.

    Small tweaks though and your there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    DJ SC wrote: »

    Suitably discordant! I thought the overdrive crackle on the dub bass was a bit too much when it comes in but it adds to the track when it's all working together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    https://soundcloud.com/subbed/carousel

    Finally managed to get something finished


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    mordeith wrote: »
    https://soundcloud.com/subbed/carousel

    Finally managed to get something finished

    Tis a banger! Hoping it would get more trancier there towards the end with slightly more length. Nice touch on the outro though! That vox is setting the tone for a much more quieter chilled out breakdown there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    Tis a banger! Hoping it would get more trancier there towards the end with slightly more length. Nice touch on the outro though! That vox is setting the tone for a much more quieter chilled out breakdown there.

    Yeah, I gave up trying to come with a better melody after the break!
    Probably right about the break itself as well. Should have maybe extended it with a longer pad section.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    Sorry no track, but the forum has seen better days...

    Any of you see the new FabFilter Pro Q3. The stuff they've added to it is really quite incredible.
    I plan on getting probably in the New Year but its rendering a few other plug-ins I use useless.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    Sorry no track, but the forum has seen better days...

    Any of you see the new FabFilter Pro Q3. The stuff they've added to it is really quite incredible.
    I plan on getting probably in the New Year but its rendering a few other plug-ins I use useless.


    Only watched the first minute is so but overlaying other instances with the one you're working on is awesome. Also really like the mouse shortcuts for creating hp/lp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    Yes probably the big sell for me. I usually use BlueCats Multi for analysing other channels and adjust Pro q2 to suit. The Brickwall HP/LP sounds ridiculous, hardly any resonance then the dynamic EQ. Christ they really hit it out of the stratosphere with it. The problem frequency highlighting, crazy overpowered. Can't wait to try it out, 30 day trial with all their plug-ins. Definitely one plug-in that is a must have! You hardly even notice it on performance in tracks hope it has the same or similar performance as Q2.

    Confused though they have not updated some of their other plug-ins in quiet a while thought they would have updated the Gate plug first. It was/is totally worth the €149 now (upgrade from 2 is half price)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    I'm usually working off Span for frequency analysis and then either FL Studio native parametric EQ or Blue Cat 7 band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    Used to use Span alright. Having it all in one though is much better imo. Less resources being used perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    I made a thing House/Disco/Funk/Soul.
    I upgraded to the new Ableton and is the first track from it

    https://scoobz1.bandcamp.com/track/back-forth
    https://soundcloud.com/scoob89/back-forth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    keithkk16 wrote: »
    I made a thing House/Disco/Funk/Soul.
    I upgraded to the new Ableton and is the first track from it

    https://scoobz1.bandcamp.com/track/back-forth
    https://soundcloud.com/scoob89/back-forth

    Nice vibes but I think your kick is clipping.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    Really? As soon as I seen your comment I went back into the mix project and then the master project and everything is in the green and just below 0db. One thing I did notice though was the soundcloud stream is louder than the bandcamp one. Maybe there's something going wrong there


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I put this together in two days :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    keithkk16 wrote: »
    Really? As soon as I seen your comment I went back into the mix project and then the master project and everything is in the green and just below 0db. One thing I did notice though was the soundcloud stream is louder than the bandcamp one. Maybe there's something going wrong there

    Sounds distorted alright, unless you have a distortion effect on the kick? If you are mastering for soundcloud or streaming services master to -1.5dB or -1dB the conversion to soundclouds bandwidth kicks the shit out of threshold values so mastering to 0dB will actually turn out to be +1.5dB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    I haven't really made any jams in about a year as I'm a bit of an idealist and waiting til I build the sequencer I mentioned in an earlier post for proper on the fly live looping, just want to be able to jam with minimum fuss.

    Anyway here's an Italo 80s style track I made by writing a melody in Abletons piano roll, it was literally done in minutes and the drums are an after thought so it's an early work in progress.

    I think it has some potential though:


    Listen to Flashback - Work in Progress by AdrianSmith #np on #SoundCloud
    https://soundcloud.com/adriansmith/flashback-work-in-progress


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭DJ SC




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    DJ SC wrote: »

    Not too shabby. I am just a jungalist so I would prefer some soul music samples at the breakdown.... but apart from that it is decent bit of dark core, nice one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭The Inpatient


    One track from an almost finished album i have been working on past 9 months.

    Album contains 10 tracks and will be released by the end of this month,

    The Inpatient - Beyond the eye

    https://theinpatient.bandcamp.com/track/Beyond-the-eye

    Let me know what you think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭The Inpatient


    Hello All,

    Another track of mine i made on album over past year,



    And the first one above now on youtube also,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    Hello All,

    Another track of mine i made on album over past year,



    Very crisp sounding productions. I love the sub bass that plays under the 303 in this one. I think though the track only really gets going at 5.15. It's a bit sparse up to that point. It really kicks on after that though :)

    And the first one above now on youtube also,


    This had an early Orbital vibe for me and at time an old skool rave feel.
    I must check out your initial post to hear some more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭The Inpatient


    mordeith wrote: »
    Very crisp sounding productions. I love the sub bass that plays under the 303 in this one. I think though the track only really gets going at 5.15. It's a bit sparse up to that point. It really kicks on after that though

    Thanks for the feedback, i know what you mean, the rawness of the track i do agree changes after 05:15 which is more influenced by the NOOM style of Acid tracks,

    When i am producing, i kind of try and make what feels right at that time, which can actually end up with the track sounding like two different styles.

    This one i do myself feel the start is like a minimal old style acid track from pre 90's almost, and as you pointed out kicks on into a style that fits more into mid 90's NOOM style, what i think is its most powerful asset at the beginning is the Kick is thumping its way through unhindered by other instruments , and the sub bass part comes in and out to strengthen its effect, if it was rolling all the way through the track, you wouldn’t pay much heed to it and the kick would also be weakened, but I made it so it breaks up the track and allows the rest of the track to shine through a bit when it drops out.

    I suppose it’s hard to explain but it made sense to me when I was making it., I wanted an old sound like Acid house at the start.

    Anyway, thanks for your feedback, its much appreciated.

    mordeith wrote: »
    This had an early Orbital vibe for me and at time an old skool rave feel.
    I must check out your initial post to hear some more.

    Again with this one, its kind of split in two again, the beginning is very subtle and progressive, a lot like the stuff from the Eye Q label, but when it changes again at 05:15 (pure coincidence) its kicks off into a more powerful almost Hard Trance like track.

    I will upload more soon, I have finished them, but when I gave myself a week long break from listening to anything, I found two tracks that I want to slightly alter the hi hats and cymbals in.

    In relation to the crispness of the production, I think this is what helps,

    On the mastering stage, I kept the frequency levels all down around -10db to -8db when working in the DAW, then I went with the advice I read in many places not to try and maximise the loudness up to 0db on final stage of mastering, I went for peaking at -1.25db as the absolute limit, what I found as an invaluable tool in the mastering stage is the use of Voxengo SPAN VST before you start the final mastering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    Out of curiosity do you do your final master as the DAW project or bounce the whole track to a single audio file and then apply final mastering to that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭The Inpatient


    mordeith wrote: »
    Out of curiosity do you do your final master as the DAW project or bounce the whole track to a single audio file and then apply final mastering to that?

    I spend a long time mixing it on the mixer rack, using Voxengo as mentioned,EQ, and possibly some filters on certain instruments, then only when i am totally satisfied with mix levels and how the sounds are cancelling each other out or not will i then bounce the track out and master it outside the DAW.

    EDIT:

    One thing i find useful to do, i apply Voxengo to each instrument and visually look at the spectrum of each individual instrument as it is playing, you will find sometimes with an instrument that is primarily lets say for example between the 1000hz and 10000hz range, that for some reason it can have slight elements that present in the sub bass, bass and just under the 1000hz that are not integral to the sound of your track.

    If the removal of those frequencies from that instrument does not detract from the overall end result you are after with the track, i cancel them out using multiband EQ by turning those specific non necessary frequencies right down and eliminating them, that leaves plenty of space for those bass, sub bass etc frequencies and instruments that you are using in the track to have that space and shine through unhindered or masked/cancelled out.

    Same the other way round, some bass heavy instruments can show high end elements that are not needed, eliminate that part of the instrument with Multiband EQ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    Yeah, I use Span on each track and cut lower freqs even if they are not visible in Span.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭The Inpatient


    mordeith wrote: »
    Yeah, I use Span on each track and cut lower freqs even if they are not visible in Span.

    The other fairly useful thing to do is to use a logical progression (That’s just my own term) when using panning.

    The only instrument I leave in the centre is the kick, then I start to distribute the bass instruments slightly left and right, the mids a little further out left and right and the highs out even further, if i have two instruments that are same frequency range in the mids, i will put one left and one right and so on and so forth with everything, this gives it its own slot in the field, the distance away from each other usually only in 2.5% increments.

    But never usually more than 30% out from centre with anything, I usually try to keep things separated but tight together in the field, I don’t know if that better but it works for me.

    So in easy to understand terms, 10:00 O’Clock through to 02:00 O’Clock, putting instruments at 10:15, 10:30, 10:45 etc and so on and maybe some stuff out wider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    First original track I've made in about 2 years or more maybe. I found a nice 8 bar sample and turned it into a 4 minute track that's a mixture of House, Disco & Techno at 129bpm built for any dance-floor. Any feedback good or bad is welcome :)
    Bandcamp:http://scoobz1.bandcamp.com/track/i-wanna-be
    Soundcloud:https://soundcloud.com/scoob89/i-wanna-be


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,107 ✭✭✭eviltimeban




    Not exactly "dance", more "lofi ambient shoegaze". :)

    I recorded this album in two weeks from the 18th March, as something to do during the lockdown. This is the title track.

    If you like it, you can hear more here: https://open.spotify.com/album/0W7C7hCVYwqx2lkfUPKGdO?si=Hxq42YS2SJemaVCl5ONOMQ

    Or on Bandcamp: https://lectionary173.bandcamp.com/album/when-memory-remembers-meaning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    Just thought I'd post this AVA emerging producer programme competition in here just in case anybody else is interested? Anyone from Ireland or the Uk can enter as long as you haven't had any professional releases on a label before. It can also be any genre.

    Info:http://avafestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/emergingtalent-docs-producer-2.pdf
    How to enter:https://form.zonefestival.com/?k=ava_x2

    I was thinking for anyone that is interested we could all post our tracks in this thread and help each other out by giveing each other a bit of feedback on how to improve tracks or how we could make them better etc.

    This place has been dead for a while now so I thought maybe more people might be interested as we're all stuck indoors most of the time these days and hopefully it might give this thread a bit more life :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 auplant




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    auplant wrote: »

    **** yeah man. Love this. Brought me back to Thunderdome days. Anchor Man samples are class.
    Love the production work as well, especially the panning on the lead. I would have brought in some splashy open hats at some stage but banging choon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    keithkk16 wrote: »
    First original track I've made in about 2 years or more maybe.
    Bandcamp:http://scoobz1.bandcamp.com/track/i-wanna-be
    Soundcloud:https://soundcloud.com/scoob89/i-wanna-be

    Quality jackin house there. The sub bass line is gorgeous. Good use of the disco guitar and vocal sample. Only negative for is the plucked bass sound doesn't sit quiet right in the mix for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 auplant


    mordeith wrote: »
    **** yeah man. Love this. Brought me back to Thunderdome days. Anchor Man samples are class.
    Love the production work as well, especially the panning on the lead. I would have brought in some splashy open hats at some stage but banging choon.
    THANKS


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 auplant


    keithkk16 sounds like a very well made disco track, I liked the groovy bass guitar riff


    https://clyp.it/emp3lpay
    Another edgy track in the "slow Dutch hardcore" pattern... not sure what my motivation was when making it, but it was the first track made using the Reaper daw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,107 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    If you fancy taking 22 minutes out of your life... :)



    This is the second one of these tracks that I've done, which I've sort of modelled on the likes of "Shine On You Crazy Diamond". It moves through several distinct parts and flows as one track (with definite segues between the tracks).

    If you just want to hear the individual parts, they're here: https://robertcrosbiegeisha.bandcamp.com/album/airways-parts-5-8

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    A wee preview of some music that I might be putting out next year. Synthy disco for the club https://soundcloud.com/scoob89/untitled-disco-1-preview/s-ZyCqSO2X3pV


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    Gone pretty quiet in here, I thought during lockdown that I would get more time to finish some tracks but it's ends up the opposite has been the case!

    Anyway, just finished this track yesterday and would be interested to hear feedback.

    https://soundcloud.com/mantraveba/pent-up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭keithkk16


    jiltloop wrote: »
    Gone pretty quiet in here, I thought during lockdown that I would get more time to finish some tracks but it's ends up the opposite has been the case!

    Anyway, just finished this track yesterday and would be interested to hear feedback.

    https://soundcloud.com/mantraveba/pent-up

    Lovely track you have there with nice chill out vibes. I had a listen to it last night before I went to bed. The only thing I didn't really like or thought that didn't fit was the snares coming in after the 2 minute point. They are a bit too loud or too punchy, they kind of take the chill out vibe away from the track, that just my 2 cents anyway everything else sounds great.

    Ps yeah this place is dead these days unfortunately. Do you know of any other sites/forums or reddit pages that would be similar to this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    keithkk16 wrote: »
    Lovely track you have there with nice chill out vibes. I had a listen to it last night before I went to bed. The only thing I didn't really like or thought that didn't fit was the snares coming in after the 2 minute point. They are a bit too loud or too punchy, they kind of take the chill out vibe away from the track, that just my 2 cents anyway everything else sounds great.

    Ps yeah this place is dead these days unfortunately. Do you know of any other sites/forums or reddit pages that would be similar to this?

    Great feedback thanks man. Is it just the snare sound that you think is an issue or the overall change in pace of the beat?

    There's none I can think of that are active unfortunately. I see there is a very quiet area of the gearslutz forum that is for track feedback, not much more activity than here. It's a pity because that would be the perfect place if it was more active. I might throw the track up there and see if there's much response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


    https://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/ This subreddit is pretty good, it has weekly threads you can post tracks and get feedback.

    I think the track is good, especially towards the end of the track it's quite nice.
    The snare doesn't fit I feel also. It sounds like an electro snappy/synthetic sort of thing. Maybe something more acoustic and subtle would fit better or even a rimshot.

    I think there could be a bit more contrast and space with regards the mix. There are some elements which are overlapping in frequency range which makes it hard to distinguish them. Can be enough just to EQ them a bit and pan them. You could definitely add some more reverb and push somethings further back. Especially things that are repeating frequently, they don't need to be so upfront.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,107 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    This is my latest tune. It's from an album I've just completed, taking a slightly conceptual approach in that I thought, what would this sound like if it was made in the late 80s / early 90s?



    Now, I get that it doesn't really *sound* like an 80s (or 90s) track, but the great thing was having that idea in my mind, so when I was making decisions or looking for sounds, I had somewhere to go. It's always good to try and think differently. I even went that way for the artwork. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    This is my latest tune. It's from an album I've just completed, taking a slightly conceptual approach in that I thought, what would this sound like if it was made in the late 80s / early 90s?



    Now, I get that it doesn't really *sound* like an 80s (or 90s) track, but the great thing was having that idea in my mind, so when I was making decisions or looking for sounds, I had somewhere to go. It's always good to try and think differently. I even went that way for the artwork. :)

    I really enjoyed that, lovely mellow vibes. I can hear the 80/90s sound you had in mind, the drums definitely have an 80s vibe and there's a sheen of 90s over the whole track that kind of reminds me of My Bloody Valentine (but with a more cheery disposition :pac:).

    I think I always enjoy your music when you post and I remember really enjoying an album you were giving away for free a few years back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    Anima wrote: »
    https://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/ This subreddit is pretty good, it has weekly threads you can post tracks and get feedback.

    I think the track is good, especially towards the end of the track it's quite nice.
    The snare doesn't fit I feel also. It sounds like an electro snappy/synthetic sort of thing. Maybe something more acoustic and subtle would fit better or even a rimshot.

    I think there could be a bit more contrast and space with regards the mix. There are some elements which are overlapping in frequency range which makes it hard to distinguish them. Can be enough just to EQ them a bit and pan them. You could definitely add some more reverb and push somethings further back. Especially things that are repeating frequently, they don't need to be so upfront.

    Thanks for taking the time to comment man, I know what you both mean about the snare, it's got too much body. Funnily enough it's actualy an acoustic kit that I used for the drums so it's meant to be an acoustic snare. I've gone back to the track and think I have found a better suited snare (I always find it hard replacing elements and trying to assess whether it suits better or not!).

    I've also gone and applied some more instances of EQ across some of the elements and hopefully have cleaned up some frequency clashes a little bit. it's not something I'm confident on, I've always struggled to finish tracks (and get better with song structure) which meant I didn't get much experience with getting down in to my mixes and learning EQing and compresssion. After switching to Ableton I've found it suits me much better for finishing tracks but I see that my skills around the final polishing and tweaking now need more focus and refinement, which is a great development for me.

    So I've been making some changes to the track and I think there's a little more work needed, I'll post up version 2 later this week (or maybe this evening) and would be delighted if anyone found time for a second listen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,107 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    jiltloop wrote: »
    I really enjoyed that, lovely mellow vibes. I can hear the 80/90s sound you had in mind, the drums definitely have an 80s vibe and there's a sheen of 90s over the whole track that kind of reminds me of My Bloody Valentine (but with a more cheery disposition :pac:).

    I think I always enjoy your music when you post and I remember really enjoying an album you were giving away for free a few years back.

    Cheers, I appreciate your comments! Yes MBV are a big influence on me (I also play guitar in a shoegaze band, Sun Mahshene). I've started incorporating shoegaze guitars into my music recently and have a touch of that in this track too.

    Can't remember what album that was! :) But glad you liked it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 auplant


    Listen to Sir! by Auplant on #SoundCloud
    https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/X5ASg

    150bpm psytrance hardtrance bs, this track doesn't have any emotion, so do not listen if you seek emotion

    can you guess which movie I took vocals from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    auplant wrote: »
    Listen to Sir! by Auplant on #SoundCloud
    https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/X5ASg

    150bpm psytrance hardtrance bs, this track doesn't have any emotion, so do not listen if you seek emotion

    can you guess which movie I took vocals from?

    I'm partial to the harder stuff myself so the good for me was the kick, the bassline and the sawtooth style synth hits. Maybe it's just me showing my age but the rest of me melodic selects almost sound too clean. I'm used to listenig the 90s era stuff of that type. Maybe a bit crusher or tape simulator would help to give the sounds a warmer, grittier feel which would make the overall track fit better together.
    Just my opinion of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 auplant


    mordeith wrote: »
    I'm partial to the harder stuff myself so the good for me was the kick, the bassline and the sawtooth style synth hits. Maybe it's just me showing my age but the rest of me melodic selects almost sound too clean. I'm used to listenig the 90s era stuff of that type. Maybe a bit crusher or tape simulator would help to give the sounds a warmer, grittier feel which would make the overall track fit better together.
    Just my opinion of course.
    Thanks for the opinion, I think the "slap" on the punch came out too much, I did something wrong constructing the kick.
    I might change some things again some time, maybe raise the delay volume on the lead as well. I wasn't too sure about the track though so I left it. Thanks for the review - much appreciated :)
    It was mostly just something I put together while having fun with the Trancedrive synth. It's a really old VST instrument which I liked because it had good effects in it, and interesting oscs.


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