Trocaire Boxes

CJ Haughey · 24-02-2015 1:43am #1

What are you filling your one with this year, im filling mine with condoms anyway. The durex real feel no less none of them lidl rubbish. Have a better chance of my contributions reaching Africa than if i filled it with money.

The Backwards Man · 24-02-2015 1:45am

Have to get one first

pmy.murphy · 24-02-2015 1:47am

Filling mine with Water. Might momentarily save them walking the 5 miles to get some

Sheep Lover · 24-02-2015 1:47am

Filling it with salt and vinegar sachets so those African lads can have a bit of sophistication on their chips.

dan1895 · 24-02-2015 2:05am

CJ Haughey wrote: »

What are you filling your one with this year, im filling mine with condoms anyway. The durex real feel no less none of them lidl rubbish. Have a better chance of my contributions reaching Africa than if i filled it with money.

Filling them with condoms is far from the worst thing to put in them with the state of sexual education in some African nations.

Iranoutofideas · 24-02-2015 2:08am

Haven't seen one in about 20 years. Didn't know they were still a thing?

Gatling · 24-02-2015 2:10am

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Haven't seen one in about 20 years. Didn't know they were still a thing?

Still forced on primary school kids every year

TheChizler · 24-02-2015 2:12am

Gatling wrote: »

Still forced on primary school kids every year

Condoms?

CJ Haughey · 24-02-2015 2:13am

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Haven't seen one in about 20 years. Didn't know they were still a thing?

Have you been living in a cave?

CarpeDiem85 · 24-02-2015 2:16am

Gatling wrote: »

Still forced on primary school kids every year

What, charity and giving? What a disgrace.

Iranoutofideas · 24-02-2015 2:23am

CJ Haughey wrote: »

Have you been living in a cave?

Haven't seen one since I was in primary school.

A_Sober_Paddy · 24-02-2015 2:44am

CarpeDiem85 wrote: »

What, charity and giving? What a disgrace.

A charity with a religious agenda that they push on the ppl they "help"

CarpeDiem85 · 24-02-2015 3:07am

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

A charity with a religious agenda that they push on the ppl they "help"

Lol, a religious agenda? What would that be? Are you a Trocaire representative working on the ground, you sound like you know what's going on.

WoollyRedHat · 24-02-2015 3:32am

Same as every year, jelly babies.

The Peanut · 24-02-2015 8:46am

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Have to get one first

Everyone in Donegal gets one at the end of Easter.;)

Full.

Mr. Incognito · 24-02-2015 9:02am

http://www.trocaire.org/whatwedo/annual-report

Shiraz 4.99 · 24-02-2015 9:15am

I'll save everyone the read of Mr. Ingonito's report.

It says the CEO is on €225k a year plus undefined top ups, last year all the donations were ate up in administration charges which is why we have to do better this year.

Grayson · 24-02-2015 9:20am

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

http://www.trocaire.org/whatwedo/annual-report

I went to this page
http://www.trocaire.org/hiv

It mentions the work they do to combat HIV. They don't mention condoms. Now they don't mention anything else either. they definitely skirt what they're advising people. They are either advising to use condoms and don't say because they're a catholic organisation or they are advising against it and aren't saying it because of public backlash.

(Just a side note: besides that I couldn't see anything on their site I disagree with. They seem like a very good charity. I would prefer to give to a secular organisation but these guys aren't actually a bad group to give money to)

ZiabR · 24-02-2015 9:24am

91 cent of every €1 donated is spent on Trocaire expenditure?... Christ.

Mr. Incognito · 24-02-2015 9:24am

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'll save everyone the read of Mr. Ingonito's report.

It says the CEO is on €225k a year plus undefined top ups, last year all the donations were ate up in administration charges which is why we have to do better this year.

Ummmmm Page 51. Did you save yourself a read also?

Trócaire’s Executive Director, Éamonn Meehan, as of May 2014 is paid a salary of €118,750 per annum

Ghost Buster · 24-02-2015 9:25am

CJ Haughey wrote: »

What are you filling your one with this year, im filling mine with condoms anyway. The durex real feel no less none of them lidl rubbish. Have a better chance of my contributions reaching Africa than if i filled it with money.

How come you are receiving them if you so obviously aren't catholic?

Mr. Incognito · 24-02-2015 9:26am

logik wrote: »

91 cent of every €1 donated is spent on Trocaire expenditure?... Christ.

Other way around.

anncoates · 24-02-2015 9:26am

The sheer craziness of this thread is near overwhelming.

jaja321 · 24-02-2015 9:40am

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

A charity with a religious agenda that they push on the ppl they "help"

Can you give an example of this agenda they are pushing? With a link to back up your claim?

shruikan2553 · 24-02-2015 10:15am

Haven't seen them since I left primary school. I'm very picky about charities I donate to, these charities have gone on for years and has there been a significant improvement there? And whenever the RCC is doing good there tends to be a catch or something dodgy going on.

Shiraz 4.99 · 24-02-2015 10:21am

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Ummmmm Page 51. Did you save yourself a read also?

Yes, yes I did . . . Do you not find made up senationalised figures far more entertaining than your drab facts

I also have it on good authority that he keeps a young African boy in a cage in his office to dance for his pure amusement, they pay him in the English coppers which use the boxes to get rid of.

Lapin · 24-02-2015 10:36am

Gatling wrote: »

Still forced on primary school kids every year

When I was in school our teacher threw them all in the bin one day instead of giving them to us because the picture on the box featured a big smiling African fella.

He said, 'yer man looks better fed an happier than most of you shower do' and that was the end of that.

24-02-2015 2:42pm

There really are a lot of despicable posters in AH, a charity trying to help some of the poorest people in the world and you have people saying they will fill the boxes with all sorts of rubbish and all because of their anti-catholic agenda, pure and utter scumbags.

Miaireland · 24-02-2015 2:45pm

We haven't received one in years. I honestly thought that they had stopped doing them. They used to be put in every letterbox in the area.

24-02-2015 2:47pm

Miaireland wrote: »

We haven't received one in years. I honestly thought that they had stopped doing them. They used to be put in every letterbox in the area.

They are provided in all churches for those who want them.

AudreyHepburn · 24-02-2015 2:47pm

The things some people choose to get worked up about!

No-one has ever, to my knowledge, been in way forced to put anything into a Trocaire box....in fact you don't even have to take one if you don't want to.

That some people think it's good enough to get a box just to fill it with contraceptives and other rubbish is worrying....it would make me question their maturity tbh.

pmy.murphy · 24-02-2015 4:35pm

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

There really are a lot of despicable posters in AH, a charity trying to help some of the poorest people in the world and you have people saying they will fill the boxes with all sorts of rubbish and all because of their anti-catholic agenda, pure and utter scumbags.

Tell me what percentage does the people in need actually get from the donations? Its all a scam especially a lot of the Africa orientated charities and a lot of these charities line their own pockets with most of the money.

jimgoose · 24-02-2015 4:40pm

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

There really are a lot of despicable posters in AH, a charity trying to help some of the poorest people in the world and you have people saying they will fill the boxes with all sorts of rubbish and all because of their anti-catholic agenda, pure and utter scumbags.

Trocaire, like many "charity" setups, are a despicable shower of hypocrites who love wrapping themselves up in sanctimonious do-goodery while scamming a very good living out of people's good nature. The God-botherers would do well to leave decent people alone. And I am not anti-Catholic, I'm anti-Asshole.

Ghost Buster · 24-02-2015 4:54pm

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

The things some people choose to get worked up about!

No-one has ever, to my knowledge, been in way forced to put anything into a Trocaire box....in fact you don't even have to take one if you don't want to.

That some people think it's good enough to get a box just to fill it with contraceptives and other rubbish is worrying....it would make me question their maturity tbh.

Whos worked up?
Theres a little concern and bemusement that a charity who claim to help victims of overpopulation attributed famine, poverty and HIV have affiliation to a religion which stands against contraception, family planning and HIV resisting condoms.

CJ Haughey · 24-02-2015 6:36pm

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

That some people think it's good enough to get a box just to fill it with contraceptives and other rubbish is worrying....it would make me question their maturity tbh.

Filling them with money is only lining the pockets of the parish priest and the ceos etc.

Littlekittylou · 24-02-2015 6:50pm

CJ Haughey wrote: »

What are you filling your one with this year, im filling mine with condoms anyway. The durex real feel no less none of them lidl rubbish. Have a better chance of my contributions reaching Africa than if i filled it with money.

We actually have one all year round.

Actually this year I have decided to prioritize charities that give vaccinations to kids. I think it's something that for a little jab protects that child and the community for years.

Gatling · 24-02-2015 6:56pm

Wonder why schools don't champion homeless charities or the St Vincent's ,
Something that actually relates to students .

The whole oh look at the poor staving African babies belongs in the 1950's.
and certainly shouldn't be pushed on to 5 year old school children .

mad muffin · 24-02-2015 7:05pm

Great place to get rid of coppers.

thehouses · 24-02-2015 7:13pm

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Tell me what percentage does the people in need actually get from the donations? Its all a scam especially a lot of the Africa orientated charities and a lot of these charities line their own pockets with most of the money.

It's usually about 90%, however the CEO's are on silly wages and that is enough to stop me donating to many charities.

Chuggers usually try and say this vaccine costs 7 cents or something and a donation will do a lot of good, however if you take €150,000 off a CEO salary you can just imagine how many people are being affected by exorbitant salaries. 7 cents divided into €150,000 is over 2 million people. Reminds me of how many Angela Kearns scammed.

lazybones32 · 24-02-2015 7:47pm

I don't use the box since I have a card that allows me donate whenever I want. One thing I particularly like about Trocaire, is that they don't send the begging letters like others do. I haven't donated to Concern in about 4 years and they still send me letters regularly

byhookorbycrook · 24-02-2015 7:58pm

Gatling wrote: »

Still forced on primary school kids every year

Not in our school.But please, feel free to generalize.

A_Sober_Paddy · 24-02-2015 8:05pm

jaja321 wrote: »

Can you give an example of this agenda they are pushing? With a link to back up your claim?

http://www.trocaire.org/whatwedo/who-we-are

First Line in there about Us section...

They are part of the C\tholic Church, an organisation that has a history of abuses, and the major abuse they are carrying out in the Africa is not giving out condoms to every man, woman and child

jaja321 · 24-02-2015 8:08pm

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

http://www.trocaire.org/whatwedo/who-we-are

First Line in there about Us section...

They are part of the C\tholic Church, an organisation that has a history of abuses, and the major abuse they are carrying out in the Africa is not giving out condoms to every man, woman and child

Are you aware of how Trocaire works?

thehouses · 24-02-2015 8:25pm

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

http://www.trocaire.org/whatwedo/who-we-are

They are part of the C\tholic Church. . . the major abuse they are carrying out in the Africa is not giving out condoms to every man, woman and child

How come condoms are freely available in Ireland and many people get STDs? Maybe the Catholic Church's position is more nuanced than people like to think.

Pumpkinseeds · 24-02-2015 8:26pm

I remember these when I was in primary school in the '70's, can't be making a huge difference if they're still looking for money to solve the same problems in the same countries decades on.

shruikan2553 · 24-02-2015 8:30pm

thehouses wrote: »

How come condoms are freely available in Ireland and many people get STDs? Maybe the Catholic Church's position is more nuanced than people like to think.

You do know the history around Ireland and contraceptives right?

And many African countries are more like past Ireland.

thehouses · 24-02-2015 8:40pm

shruikan2553 wrote: »

You do know the history around Ireland and contraceptives right?

And many African countries are more like past Ireland.

I'm only 22 so tell me more...

Also how are these countries like Ireland in the past?

Sheepy99 · 24-02-2015 8:51pm

CarpeDiem85 wrote: »

What, charity and giving? What a disgrace.

Now, now. Most people are of the opinion/know that most big name charities are just another money making scheme for those who work for them.

lazygal · 24-02-2015 9:07pm

thehouses wrote: »

I'm only 22 so tell me more...

Also how are these countries like Ireland in the past?

Ireland only legalised the sale of contraception without prescription in 1993. The same year it decided to decriminalise homosexuality, and people opposed both of those changes. My husband isn't an auld fella, but when he was in college only married couples could buy condoms and they had to have a prescription. There were court cases taken against Virgin Megastore because it sold condoms openly in the 1990s. Ireland is still has the most restrictive laws on abortion in the EU and a lot of our sex education in schools is laughably influenced by the fact that the vast majority of our schools are controlled by patrons of faiths who oppose the use of contraception, such as the catholic church. Ireland and its past is not a million miles away from countries where religious charities peddle their evangelism and access to the poor in exchange for food and clothes.

thehouses · 24-02-2015 9:14pm

lazygal wrote: »

Ireland only legalised the sale of contraception without prescription in 1993. The same year it decided to decriminalise homosexuality, and people opposed both of those changes. My husband isn't an auld fella, but when he was in college only married couples could buy condoms and they had to have a prescription. There were court cases taken against Virgin Megastore because it sold condoms openly in the 1990s. Ireland is still has the most restrictive laws on abortion in the EU and a lot of our sex education in schools is laughably influenced by the fact that the vast majority of our schools are controlled by patrons of faiths who oppose the use of contraception, such as the catholic church. Ireland and its past is not a million miles away from countries where religious charities peddle their evangelism and access to the poor in exchange for food and clothes.

Thanks for the info.

Unfortunately condoms won't solve the Aids problem and that is what I was getting at regarding the Catholic Church's position being more thought out than people think.

lazygal · 24-02-2015 9:33pm

thehouses wrote: »

Thanks for the info.

Unfortunately condoms won't solve the Aids problem and that is what I was getting at regarding the Catholic Church's position being more thought out than people think.

Condoms are about more than the Aids problem. They help to reduce the chances of young girls becoming pregnant and dropping out of education. They help women to exercise more control over their reproductive choices. The birth rate in Ireland dropped after contraception became more freely available. My parents and in laws both came from very large families, their own families were far smaller because they were able to control their fertility.

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