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Is it socially acceptable for an adult to admire teenage/school girls

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    #62
    Sergei Malatov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Sergei Malatov


    Whitewinged wrote: »
    It is not socially acceptable because it is not acceptable.

    The reason why it is not acceptable is because a 13 year old is a child.

    it doesnt matter how they look or if they come accross as mature. They are not emotionally prepared. They dont have enough life experience and they need those years to transition into adulthood. Teens are going through alot of changes physically and emotionally and it would be wrong for someone to take advantage of that.

    Also what would you in your 20s have in common with a 13 year old?

    I don't know how this is relevant to me.

    I don't know how my tactfully admiring a 15 year old girl wearing daisy dukes exposing her ass cheeks is impacting on her in any way.


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    #63
    Melisandre121
    Registered Users Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Melisandre121


    Yes it's wrong. When I was that age I was a child, it would've made me very uncomfortable to know a man of your age was looking at me in that way.


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    #64
    celligraphy
    Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭celligraphy


    Ah I remember going with a 23 year old guy when I was 16 looking back now it's creepy as f*ck... To be attracted to someone that age, just kinda shows can you not get anyone your own age


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    #65
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    Candie wrote: »
    Two adults being attracted to each other is vastly different from adults seeking confirmation that an attraction to children is ok.

    Few parents will be okay with adults expressing attraction to their kids, for example.

    Yeah but so many models are only 13-17. The advertising works for cosmetics such as Dior and other companies, so yeah the culture does sanction and encourage it.

    And stop calling them children, they are adolescent/young adult.


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    #66
    sheep_
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭sheep_


    Besea wrote: »
    People can be attracted to anything, there is nothing wrong with it, people don't choose what they are attracted to.

    i'm attracted to trees and plants


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    #67
    blueser
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    Sergei Malatov wrote: »
    I don't know how this is relevant to me.

    I don't know how my tactfully admiring a 15 year old girl wearing daisy dukes exposing her ass cheeks is impacting on her in any way.
    If I was you, I'd make the most of what remaining time you have on here. I've a feeling it mightn't be that long.


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    #68
    Sergei Malatov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Sergei Malatov


    Melisandre121 wrote: »
    Yes it's wrong. When I was that age I was a child, it would've made me very uncomfortable to know a man of your age was looking at me in that way.

    Then why do so many teenage girls these days wear see through leggings, thongs, chaps, shorts exposing their buttocks and vests with floss material - if they don't want this kind of attention?


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    #69
    DareGod
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    I don't agree with trying to make someone feel bad for how they feel naturally. That's just ridiculous.

    That's like saying to a depressed person "How dare you be depressed, you miserable person."

    Nobody can help how they feel naturally, so to punish someone for it is terrible. Like Russia putting its gay people in jail.

    The OP asked was it okay to find them attractive. He didn't ask was it okay to creep on them / leer at them / stalk them / stare of them / follow them home / hide under their beds / kidnap them.

    The outraged responses are, as usual, emotion driven and should be disregarded in discussions like this, because they get us absolutely nowhere and they just hinder intelligent discussions.

    Nobody once suggested that the law which prevents sexual interaction with under 18s should be broken, so lets stop acting like that is what was suggested. (As I said, we have collectively and intelligently decided that it goes against the best interests of a person aged under-18 to engage with them sexually, and for that reason it should never ever be done.)


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    #70
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Its not socially acceptable no. But its biologically normal, men are hardwired to find girls who have begun/passed puberty to be attractive. Most girls start puberty at 12/13 I believe, so yes its normal. But society says its a creepy, as a gay guy Id find it very creepy if you told me some 13 year old girl you saw was hot. I don't find 13-16 year old boys attractive at all but maybe its different


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    #71
    SusieBlue
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    zeffabelli wrote: »
    Yeah but so many models are only 13-17. The advertising works for cosmetics such as Dior and other companies, so yeah the culture does sanction and encourage it.

    And stop calling them children, they are adolescent/young adult.

    They aren't young adults. They can't legally consent to anything, they can't vote, they can't sign a contract, they don't have the capacity to do anything without their parents or guardians permission. Calling them young adults imposes a maturity on them that no 15 year old I've met yet has. They are kids, simple as.


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    #72
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    Sergei Malatov wrote: »
    Then why do so many teenage girls these days wear see through leggings, thongs, chaps, shorts exposing their buttocks and vests with floss material - if they don't want this kind of attention?

    They are getting the message that is what they are valued for.... See my former posts about advertising.


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    #73
    [Deleted User]
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    Sergei Malatov wrote: »
    Then why do so many teenage girls these days wear see through leggings, thongs, chaps, shorts exposing their buttocks and vests with floss material - if they don't want this kind of attention?

    Damn sexy kids, eh?

    Kids do stupid things that they're not grownup enough for, that's why adults are supposed to bear in mind where the line is, because it's in the nature of a kid to cross it.

    Ogling kids is so far across that line that the line is a blur on the horizon. Kids don't know any better, but adults are supposed to.

    Girls don't dress like that to attract the attention of adults, just boys their own ages or slightly older.


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    #74
    Whitewinged
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    Sergei Malatov wrote: »
    I don't know how this is relevant to me.

    I don't know how my tactfully admiring a 15 year old girl wearing daisy dukes exposing her ass cheeks is impacting on her in any way.

    Im am talking about the general question in the thread and what it means if attraction to people these ages was acceptable and why it is not acceptable.


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    #75
    the evasion_kid
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    sheep_ wrote: »
    i'm attracted to trees and plants

    Vegetable erotica?


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    #76
    seldom seen kid
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭seldom seen kid


    zeffabelli wrote: »
    They are getting the message that is what they are valued for.... See my former posts about advertising.

    because its fashionable, its cool. its sexy.
    the problem is they dont truely understand why they themselves are doing it


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    #77
    Sergei Malatov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Sergei Malatov


    DareGod wrote: »
    I don't agree with trying to make someone feel bad for how they feel naturally. That's just ridiculous.

    That's like saying to a depressed person "How dare you be depressed, you weirdo."

    Nobody can help how they feel naturally, so to punish someone for it is terrible. Like Russia putting its gay people in jail.

    The OP asked was it okay to find them attractive. He didn't ask was it okay to creep on them / leer at them / stalk them / stare of them / follow them home / hide under their beds / kidnap them.

    The outraged responses are, as usual, emotion driven and should be disregarded in discussions like this, because they get us absolutely nowhere.

    Nobody once suggested that the law which prevents sexual interaction with under 18s should be broken, so lets stop acting like that is what was suggested.

    Thank you.


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    #78
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Could they not prey on someone their own age?

    That's just...depressing. "Lots of guys"? What was wrong with them?

    I don't know what school he went to. But Im 19 and any guys my age who said a 13 year old was hot would have no friends and be a social outcast. A lot of guys my age have little sisters that age...the thought of a 6th year doing a 1st year actually makes me a bit ill


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    #79
    zeffabelli
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    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    They aren't young adults. They can't legally consent to anything, they can't vote, they can't sign a contract, they don't have the capacity to do anything without their parents or guardians permission. Calling them young adults imposes a maturity on them that no 15 year old I've met yet has. They are kids, simple as.

    Think fiction. They are watching the Hunger Games, they are watching porn, they are sexually active. They are drinking. Some of them can drive. Some of them are caring for younger siblings. Some are employed.

    No they are not children, they are in a different stage of development whatever the lawyers say.

    They wouldn't be modelling for Dior and other fashion houses if we didn't find them attractive. I think Ireland's next top model is 13.

    They wouldn't be selling make up if they weren't sexy.

    I'm arguing it's a complete hippo racy to say it isn't sanctioned when it makes a fortune for fashion and cosmetics.


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    #80
    timthumbni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Sergei Malatov wrote: »
    I don't know how this is relevant to me.

    I don't know how my tactfully admiring a 15 year old girl wearing daisy dukes exposing her ass cheeks is impacting on her in any way.

    This has now crossed from taking the pish to something altogether more creepy. Wise up.


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    #81
    cython
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    Sergei Malatov wrote: »
    Not rode. Shifted.

    Well some of them rode.

    You have your head in the sand if you think 13 year olds don't have sex.

    I got laid for the first time in my late teens but I knew guys and girls that were already doing it six years beforehand.

    And that age group has never been more exposed to sexuality than it is now. (Internet, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Katy Perry)
    Eh, rode was exactly what you said the first time:
    Sergei Malatov wrote: »
    I know lots of guys in secondary school who rode first years when they were in leaving cert.

    I was not one of those guys.

    I'm grand. It's more a forbidden fruit kind of thing.

    And girls of that age dress inappropriately these days. I can't help but look.

    You can also look away, unless you've somehow lost all the range of motion in your neck????


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    #82
    seldom seen kid
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭seldom seen kid


    nearly every single child at some point in there life wants to be seen, hear or feared. any form of attention is attention


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    #83
    Sergei Malatov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Sergei Malatov


    Candie wrote: »
    Damn sexy kids, eh?

    Kids do stupid things that they're not grownup enough for, that's why adults are supposed to bear in mind where the line is, because it's in the nature of a kid to cross it.

    Ogling kids is so far across that line that the line is a blur on the horizon. Kids don't know any better, but adults are supposed to.

    Girls don't dress like that to attract the attention of adults, just boys their own ages or slightly older.

    I would never let my daughter dress like that to begin with. I would teach them self-respect.


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    #84
    [Deleted User]
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    Maybe try teaching yourself to respect the kids enough to stop ogling them in a sexual way.


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    #85
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    jesus ****ing christ are you serious


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    #86
    Sergei Malatov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Sergei Malatov


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I don't know what school he went to. But Im 19 and any guys my age who said a 13 year old was hot would have no friends and be a social outcast. A lot of guys my age have little sisters that age...the thought of a 6th year doing a 1st year actually makes me a bit ill

    Precisely why they would never own up to finding a girl that age attractive. Because they fear social rejection.


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    #87
    Eugene Norman
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    Op is a creep. I for one didn't find hermonie attractive until the very day of her 18th birthday.


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    #88
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    No, paedophilia is not acceptable. Don't start threads of this nature.


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