The Haka: What would AH suggest as the best response?

Yeah_Right · 09-10-2015 1:29am

c_man wrote: »

I'd love to see their football team try it, can't find any footage of it though. Search says that Fifa banned their women's football team from performing it last year so that's that probably - http://fusion.net/story/148410/2015-womens-world-cup-haka-new-zealand/

The soccer team don't do a Haka because Maori culture doesn't allow girls to do them.

Reiver · 09-10-2015 2:28am

Drop trow

feargale · 09-10-2015 3:03am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It was done for over a hundred years with little controversy or complaint. It's done by other NZ teams in other sports. It was even done by NZ players playing with Munster. Let them at it. It's tradition.

So is cannibalism.

JupiterKid · 09-10-2015 3:35am

Just moon the All Blacks...

...that'll learn 'em!

You Mirin? · 09-10-2015 3:47am

The most flamboyant, stupid dance they can possibly choreograph would be the best option. Doing it would not only be hilarious to the crowd but show that they don't take the Haka seriously while not outright offending them.

A mixture of some of these but have the entire squad in synch. Would be especially comical considering most of the players are absolute giants.

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Xenji · 09-10-2015 3:57am

Reenact a Crystal Swing video.

kidneyfan · 09-10-2015 11:22am

Play these youtubes on the big screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXCQnL421WM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIuXrwPCcc

recylingbin · 09-10-2015 11:22am

soggy bikkie?

byronbay2 · 09-10-2015 11:48am

The Haka lost it's power when they reinterpreted it and dropped the jump (with hands up and knees bent) at the end. That was the most vital and powerful part of the whole ritual - it put the full stop at the end of the sentence! The All-Blacks have never been the same team since (one undeserved RWC victory apart) and WILL NOT win the RWC this year. The aura of invincibility died with that jump!

09-10-2015 11:55am

feargale wrote: »

So is cannibalism.

There ya have it folks, the Haka is as bad as cannibalism

Seriously though I think the aul brothers in arms stare down is in order for the Haka:

kidneyfan · 09-10-2015 2:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

There ya have it folks, the Haka is as bad as cannibalism

Seriously though I think the aul brothers in arms stare down is in order for the Haka:

The prushuss Kiwis cry uf yerr doo thit. Yurr dusruspcktin the hucker.

Jayop · 09-10-2015 3:41pm

But they don't. Time and time again the AB's have said they loved it when teams faced them down like that. Its the rugby authorities that don't like it.

Wossack · 09-10-2015 3:58pm

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Be warned, these will make you cringe!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH7luVlezGs

actually thought the basketball one was pretty good

the others though :eek:

Samaris · 09-10-2015 4:06pm

Gotta be Riverdance, specifically the bit where they all dance into the long line. Then have two players spinning in front of them.

If nothing else, it'd confuse the hell out of the All Blacks.

kidneyfan · 09-10-2015 6:36pm

Jayop wrote: »

But they don't. Time and time again the AB's have said they loved it when teams faced them down like that. Its the rugby authorities that don't like it.

Maybe you'd like to buy a bridge in Brooklyn? When we did it in '89. The prushurrss keewee croyed abbuttitt for yees

Very Bored · 09-10-2015 6:41pm

Sing Ireland's Call AFTER the haka... that'll put them to sleep if nothing else will.

Magico Gonzalez · 09-10-2015 7:34pm

The whole thing is a bit precious, it's a insignificant set piece if you ask me these days. Might have meant something when it was an amateur sport but now it's a right sight, millionaire professional athletes leaping about like great eejits. Diferent if it was spontaneous. Sure you only have to look at their reactions here to see how quickly knickers get in a twist about the whole charade.

Do like the Aussies did previously, chant humpty dumpty at them while hop about slapping their thighs. Imagine them dressed in lederhosen or something.

09-10-2015 7:44pm

They should start things off with a dance off, the Irish team leading the way by doing The Robot. Then when the NZ crowd get into the Haka, they should send a few guys in Leprechaun suits around the back to pants them.

That would make me watch the rugby.

Very Bored · 09-10-2015 8:12pm

Send some lad out the night before on the Guinness. Make sure he's locked before he goes to bed. Then in the morning feed him with senakot and beans and during the haka let the explosions take the New Zealanders by surprise.

Omackeral · 09-10-2015 8:27pm

Right, here's the 4-1-1. Say some All Black is dissing your fly half, you give him one of these...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sH95YrJKEI

sonofenoch · 09-10-2015 8:45pm

I'd find the best response is probably to laugh at a bunch of what is mostly middle class white men trying to imitate a custom from an indigenous people who had their land taken off them......what they gonna do? throw a shape and stick their tongues out at you ??

who could fail to laugh at this shambles

Duckworth_Luas · 09-10-2015 8:46pm

Tonga the designated home team tonight.

As usual the away anthem is played first, then the home team's.

Yet Tonga had to do their Sipi Tau first!

Wossack · 09-10-2015 8:53pm

NZ's flying duck tonight outclassed by Tonga tonight imo!

Schwiiing · 09-10-2015 9:05pm

Samoa's Siva Tau is much better.

Cienciano · 09-10-2015 9:13pm

fergiesfolly wrote: »

I'd have Darren Randolph punt it high up the pitch for Shane Long to belt past their keeper.

Keep yer feckin rugby!!!!

Whilst I do like rugby, its pretty much impossible to get an upset like that. 2nd in the world beaten by 54th, would be like Australia losing to Sweden in rugby. It's the worst thing about rugby, the lack of teams.

sonofenoch · 09-10-2015 9:19pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Whilst I do like rugby, its pretty much impossible to get an upset like that. 2nd in the world beaten by 54th, would be like Australia losing to Sweden in rugby. It's the worst thing about rugby, the lack of teams.

Or like South Africa losing to Japan ....oh wait hold on a min :rolleyes:

Your Face · 09-10-2015 9:45pm

Respond by losing the match.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 09-10-2015 9:50pm

Candie wrote: »

They should start things off with a dance off, the Irish team leading the way by doing The Robot. Then when the NZ crowd get into the Haka, they should send a few guys in Leprechaun suits around the back to pants them.

That would make me watch the rugby.

Racist stereotype.

Yeah_Right · 09-10-2015 10:22pm

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Tonga the designated home team tonight.

As usual the away anthem is played first, then the home team's.

Yet Tonga had to do their Sipi Tau first!

Home team challenges first. Learn the culture before criticising.

Do you know how much media is given in NZ to how Ireland, England, Wales whoever will react to the Haka? None. No one gives a ****e what they think of it. Less thought on the Haka and more on winning the game would be my advice.

Actually, why does this thread even exist? Are you going to lose to France and face NZ next week?

Duckworth_Luas · 09-10-2015 10:37pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Home team challenges first. Learn the culture before criticising.

Making it up as you go along. Got it.

Tonga V New Zealand in 2003

Tonga are the home team yet New Zealand challenge first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zbXn9dFgsU

Kiwi in IE · 09-10-2015 11:01pm

The sour, snarkiness in this thread is hilarious. It's like a bunch of little kids being nasty about the kid who has better toys than them. We have a better Rugby team than you! Get over it!

Your Kiwi coach is doing a brilliant job though so you'll probably make the semis providing you beat France.

breffni bogballer · 09-10-2015 11:08pm

I think we shud draw a big x in centre of pitch and get 8 comely maidens in leather to dance

Sunflower 27 · 09-10-2015 11:22pm

The kiwi attitude is nauseating. I lived with some kiwi girls, they could not handle their team losing. It was frankly ridiculous.

I don't care who wins the world cup, anyone but New Zealand. As for the Haka, I just cringe when I see it.

Sunflower 27 · 09-10-2015 11:25pm

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

The sour, snarkiness in this thread is hilarious. It's like a bunch of little kids being nasty about the kid who has better toys than them. We have a better Rugby team than you! Get over it!

Your Kiwi coach is doing a brilliant job though so you'll probably make the semis providing you beat France.

Yes, and having the better rugby team is like soooo important isn't it. I mean, is that all your country has going for it? This is exactly what I mean about kiwis needing to get a life.:D

09-10-2015 11:28pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Racist stereotype.

Absolutely not.

It's a National stereotype.

Kiwi in IE · 09-10-2015 11:29pm

Might go and start a thread making silly negative comments about the Irish soccer team because it's much better than ours.

Kiwi in IE · 09-10-2015 11:34pm

Sunflower 27 wrote: »

Yes, and having the better rugby team is like soooo important isn't it. I mean, is that all your country has going for it? This is exactly what I mean about kiwis needing to get a life.:D

Right so, because many of us are proud of our excellent rugby team, that of course leads to the obvious conclusion that the country has nothing else going for it. And we need to get a life?

Duckworth_Luas · 09-10-2015 11:38pm

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Might go and start a thread making silly negative comments about the Irish soccer team because it's much better than ours.

Will you have to do a haka before starting the thread?

09-10-2015 11:39pm

Sunflower 27 wrote: »

Yes, and having the better rugby team is like soooo important isn't it. I mean, is that all your country has going for it? This is exactly what I mean about kiwis needing to get a life.:D

Pretty harsh.

I don't see how taking pride in a teams success is a sign you need a life. Don't Irish people go crazy when a national team does well in a World Cup?

Kiwi in IE · 09-10-2015 11:48pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Actually, why does this thread even exist? Are you going to lose to France and face NZ next week?

They are getting their excuses ready just in case; "They lost by 30 points in the quarter final because they were unsure how to 'respond' to the Haka".

Kiwi in IE · 09-10-2015 11:49pm

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Will you have to do a haka before starting the thread?

Definately! The one that includes the throat slitting gesture!

Duckworth_Luas · 10-10-2015 12:02am

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Definately! The one that includes the throat slitting gesture!

That's called Kapa O Pango.

You're lack of knowledge and your cultural ignorance is disgusting.

Kiwi in IE · 10-10-2015 12:07am

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

That's called Kapa O Pango.

You're lack of knowledge and your cultural ignorance is disgusting.

Did you google that?

I wouldn't expect most people on a Irish message board to know that, hence why I described the gesture rather than use the name.

StringerBell · 10-10-2015 12:27am

Can we do away with that Irelands call ****e while we are getting rid of customs we don't enjoy?

katydid · 10-10-2015 12:41am

[QUOTE=Fleawuss;97285348
For the hypocrisy of white New Zealanders adopting a cultural relic from the people they dispossessed? [/QUOTE]

Not all the players are white.

Kiwi in IE · 10-10-2015 12:49am

To those going on about white NZ's of European origin doing the Haka? Perhaps we should take a leaf out of your book when it comes to cultural relations. Wasn't a new song invented because some participants didn't want to sing the real national anthem? A shining beacon of cultural harmony so you are!

katydid · 10-10-2015 12:54am

I'm surprised to see all the negative comments about the Haka. It's just an unusual tradition, like singing the Fields of Athenry. I think it's cool, all those muscley guys looking all fierce...

At least it's not a real war

katydid · 10-10-2015 12:55am

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

To those going on about white NZ's of European origin doing the Haka? Perhaps we should take a leaf out of your book when it comes to cultural relations. Wasn't a new song invented because some participants didn't want to sing the real national anthem? A shining beacon of cultural harmony so you are!

It's not the real national anthem. There's no real all Ireland national anthem.

Kiwi in IE · 10-10-2015 1:03am

katydid wrote: »

It's not the real national anthem. There's no real all Ireland national anthem.

OK my mistake, but I find the comments that make negative connotations about cultural relations in NZ (which are by no means perfect) a bit pot/kettle given the history of cultural relations here.

katydid · 10-10-2015 1:06am

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

OK my mistake, but I find the comments that make negative connotations about cultural relations in NZ (which are by no means perfect) a bit pot/kettle given the history of cultural relations here.

I agree. I think it's great to see New Zealanders, or native or European ethnicity embracing the Maori heritage. And isn't it better to have war dances in a sport than for real?

The Haka: What would AH suggest as the best response?

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