The Haka: What would AH suggest as the best response?

looseliver

looseliver wrote: »

How Many Bohs games have you been to?

Plenty. More at Turners X than Dublin, granted.

Hey, I'm not rooting for polite here, I'm simply making the point that when rugby fans bang on about the respect the fans have, it's because they tend to come from a certain social background or people who wannabe from it. And when they talk about respect for the ref, historically medical students are nice to Consultants.

Boring username

There can only be one response to the Haka. Imagine a team of fully grown men letting rip with this:

namloc1980

Do what David Campese did at the 1991 World Cup. Ignored it and did his own warmup. NZ are like a bunch of children if anyone "disrespects" them.

Montgolfier

It's just an other form of bulling, ha ha bet that would get it banned

lbj666

namloc1980 wrote: »

Do what David Campese did at the 1991 World Cup. Ignored it and did his own warmup. NZ are like a bunch of children if anyone "disrespects" them.

Ya i just think a purposeful reaction to it by the players to it just fuels the whole commotion over it , AB get more stubborn over it start coming up with new routines etc. and the cycle just keeps turning.

Don't think the aussies have done anything in a long time beside playing "matilda" over the PA after it.

buck65

Riverdance! ...............er wait was that mentioned? 100 ****en times jesus

Duckworth_Luas

flas wrote: »

The opposite team who have to stand and watch all the pageantry should then have their national anthem played,so in order of sequence it should be new Zealand anthem,haka then other teams anthem, unless of course the all blacks are at home, then the order should be reversed!

The first time a national anthem was sung at an international match was in 1905 when Wales hosted New Zealand. After performing the Haka the Welsh team and crowd responded with Land of My Fathers. A century later this order, Haka followed by Welsh anthem, was repeated.

The next year Wales wanted to continue with this but New Zealand refused. Wales insisted and New Zealand threw the toys out of the pram, performing the Haka in their dressing room rather then on the pitch.

Cienciano

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

The first time a national anthem was sung at an international match was in 1905 when Wales hosted New Zealand. After performing the Haka the Welsh team and crowd responded with Land of My Fathers. A century later this order, Haka followed by Welsh anthem, was repeated.

The next year Wales wanted to continue with this but New Zealand refused. Wales insisted and New Zealand threw the toys out of the pram, performing the Haka in their dressing room rather then on the pitch.

"We must be allowed to perform out sacred* war dance without any response"



*so important and respected that we'll sell it to whatever company bids the highest for using it in advertising

Son Of A Vidic

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Just laugh at them. A bunch of middle class, middle aged, white men doing a Maori War Dance. It is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

That's probably the best response, just laugh at the white guys of European extraction thinking they're Maori. It would be like a US national team coming onto the field and doing a native American Indian dance. Completely stupid and laughable.

KERSPLAT!

I'm all for respecting it. What I don't like is that we aren't allowed two anthems when playing away but they can do the Haka home or away...

The actual anthems that we use are another discussion entirely.

lbj666

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

I'm all for respecting it. What I don't like is that we aren't allowed two anthems when playing away but they can do the Haka home or away...

The actual anthems that we use are another discussion entirely.

Ya its a total different discussion , but its more a mutual lets not go there thing between the irfu and world rugby, irfu don't push it so as not to upset some of the nordies.

The play it in dublin , limerick or wherever in the 26 counties for obvious reasons

Day Lewin

This is my favourite version...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsLCxtV29BI

knocking the gilt off the gingerbread, eh?

TomBtheGoat

A power nap.

philstar

moon them.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRKhTvUUYMI

lawlolawl

I'd find it hard to not laugh in their faces.

"So, you are grown men performing a dance for me and my buddies before we play a game with each other like children?"

trashcan

Pink Lemons wrote: »

Edit: Just seen the video doesn't show the NZ part, here it is

Munster look like they're lining up to do the can-can in response there

Kiwi in IE

Fleawuss wrote: »

The Haka is the pre match ritual of the All Blacks, New Zealand's rugby union team. Essentially it's a Maori war dance to intimidate opponents. Teams tend to line up to face it and try to face it down. We have never beaten the All Blacks in an international. What's the best response to it apart from winning the match? Turn your back to show contempt for primitive rituals? For the hypocrisy of white New Zealanders adopting a cultural relic from the people they dispossessed? Not taking it seriously and giving them the finger? Bombard it with garryowens? Riverdance? What says AH?

Just use the time to mentally prepare for impending annihilation?

Kiwi in IE

If they find themselves facing the Haka, they may worry about responding to their exit from the world cup. Never mind the Haka!

kfallon

Just a poor man's Macarena tbh

Duckworth_Luas

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

If they find themselves facing the Haka, they may worry about responding to their exit from the world cup. Never mind the Haka!

Third place playoff?

daithi1970

Richie Kavanagh.. that should sort the Kiwis out..

Paramite Pie

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

That's probably the best response, just laugh at the white guys of European extraction thinking they're Maori. It would be like a US national team coming onto the field and doing a native American Indian dance. Completely stupid and laughable.

Not if people of Maori descent support the tradition being continued by these white men. Which is worse, white men eroding or scoffing at the native customs or respectfully taking them on?

Cultures are meant to be shared.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

I think Riverdance needs to be mentioned again.

Duckjob

Do this dance back at them. Much scarier than the Haka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRAFKxbK9HA

Not that one

I cant post video clips, but this needs Daniel O'Donnell singing "I want to dance with you" as a response.
That'll soften their cough for them.

DeadHand

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

That's probably the best response, just laugh at the white guys of European extraction thinking they're Maori. It would be like a US national team coming onto the field and doing a native American Indian dance. Completely stupid and laughable.

Maybe half of the team are of Maori extraction. The Maori community in New Zealand are by and large proud of the All Backs, the large Maori representation among them and their honouring of Maori ritual. Like sport itself, the Haka is a unifying, inclusive thing. If you are a kiwi you get to perform no matter what shade you happen to be.

If the Maori are not offended, why should anyone else be? If they are proud and happy to see their culture honoured by their national team who are you to sneer?

osarusan

DeadHand wrote: »

If they are proud and happy to see their culture honoured by their national team who are you to sneer?

He is Corvus Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius.

whiskeyman

Shake And Vac ftw!

Jayop

I don't get why so many here are butthurt about the Haka. I think it's class and one of the things i look forward to seeing every time I watch NZ or any of the Islands play. The whole thing about the response too makes it even more interesting. Crying about "grown men dancing" or comparing it to WWF is stupid.

bucketybuck

Jayop wrote: »

I don't get why so many here are butthurt about the Haka.

IMO, the AB's are welcome to do the haka, though as a side issue I do think it has lost meaning by being overused, but thats a different matter.

What I completely disagree with is the fact that the other team are forced to stand and watch it. They should absolutely be allowed to go off and do a drill or a huddle or whatever they want while they are waiting, instead of having to act out a hard man glare because thats all they are allowed to do.

When the opposition get targeted because of "disrespecting" the haka it just shows how much bull**** it all is. Do your dance if you want, but it loses all meaning if you can t do it without making the other side stand and watch when they don't want to.