VW ID.3

01-07-2020 7:19pm

In this day and age I’d tell them, no 32 amp cable no deal.

They should be providing a cable that can charge at max rate even a 16 amp 3 phase ffs.

unkel · 01-07-2020 8:12pm

How does this not surprise me. They'll probably charge EUR300 for the optional 32A cable

liamog · 01-07-2020 8:13pm

unkel wrote: »

How does this not surprise me. They'll probably charge EUR300 for the optional 32A cable

Think of it as saving €300 if you don't need it

unkel · 01-07-2020 8:21pm

liamog wrote: »

Think of it as saving €300 if you don't need it

Even if I didn't need it, I'd trust my negotiation skills to get one for free anyway and then I'd sell it on adverts for EUR150 :pac:

01-07-2020 9:03pm

No, it really is taking the p1ss providing a mickey mouse 16 amp charging lead.

catharsis · 02-07-2020 12:13am

unkel wrote: »

The only two EVs that can charge at 23kW AC are all Renault Zoes and early Teslas with the optional dual chargers

supposedly the e-Tron and I believe the Taycan can also do it?
optional on the e-tron and last time I asked Audi Ireland about it they just looked at me as if I had 3 heads, so perhaps not available here :-)

eagerv · 02-07-2020 5:07pm

View of the Max with the Plus wheels.
Must say, the Moonstone is growing on me..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqThIpJkXto

Mike3287 · 02-07-2020 5:37pm

Production at 1500 a day now

They'll be everywhere soon, overtaking Model 3 in no time

liamog · 02-07-2020 5:54pm

Mike3287 wrote: »

Production at 1500 a day now

They'll be everywhere soon, overtaking Model 3 in no time

1500 per day is for MEB in general, I think it's ID.3, ID.4, Q4 E-Tron and El Born to be produced in Zwickau, apparently the Golf line has now been closed for them to do the upgrades over the summer.

Mike3287 · 02-07-2020 6:45pm

liamog wrote: »

1500 per day is for MEB in general, I think it's ID.3, ID.4, Q4 E-Tron and El Born to be produced in Zwickau, apparently the Golf line has now been closed for them to do the upgrades over the summer.

Was thinking it was a bit high for now alright, but it is VW and they know how to mass produce

Impressive when an autogiants sets it mind to something

njburke · 03-07-2020 5:30pm

Just off the phone with the dealer, in to sign paperwork next week. How realistic is his stated August delivery?

eagerv · 03-07-2020 5:32pm

I don't know, I was told end of Aug, early Sept.

Congrats, btw.

return guide · 03-07-2020 5:40pm

Thinking of going for the Max but not 100%.
Has any Max potentials been told they can have delivery in January?
The BEATS sound system seems to be swapped for a "sound system" which does not sound great.

Redlim · 03-07-2020 5:46pm

Add me to the club too. Been silently learning loads from the various threads here over the past couple of years so I'd like to express a huge thanks to all the knowledgeable contributors. Also been advised of a late August/early September delivery.

eagerv · 03-07-2020 5:49pm

njburke wrote: »

Just off the phone with the dealer, in to sign paperwork next week. How realistic is his stated August delivery?

Redlim wrote: »

Add me to the club too. Been silently learning loads from the various threads here over the past couple of years so I'd like to express a huge thanks to all the knowledgeable contributors. Also been advised of a late August/early September delivery.

Which spec/colours are you going for?

Redlim · 03-07-2020 5:56pm

eagerv wrote: »

Which spec/colours are you going for?

The Plus in moonstone. Bit of a gamble on the non metallic colour tbh. I like it from the few proper daylight videos I've seen though.

Jack lemmon · 03-07-2020 6:03pm

njburke wrote: »

Just off the phone with the dealer, in to sign paperwork next week. How realistic is his stated August delivery?

Sign paperwork....I just ordered through Email, was told early September delivery.

njburke · 03-07-2020 6:34pm

eagerv wrote: »

Which spec/colours are you going for?

I went for the id3 first in the basic grey, I couldn't justify 800 euros for a colour choice. 34 k is the most we've ever spent on a car. 5 years ago we picked up a 4 month old leaf for 22k, it's been flawless for the last 100,000 KMS.
We are trading in my diesel, while it still has value and will try two evs. We will only have one charger, but I have one at work so I think we will manage.

njburke · 03-07-2020 6:47pm

Jack lemmon wrote: »

Sign paperwork....I just ordered through Email, was told early September delivery.

Yeah, I only did the pre order a couple of weeks ago. The sales guy is very keen to convert orders passed on from vw to the dealers, can't blame them after the last few months. The paperwork is SEAI grant and finance.

Jack lemmon · 03-07-2020 7:16pm

njburke wrote: »

Yeah, I only did the pre order a couple of weeks ago. The sales guy is very keen to convert orders passed on from vw to the dealers, can't blame them after the last few months. The paperwork is SEAI grant and finance.

Oh the SEAI grant, I’ll have to get on to my guy about that next week then, thanks. 1st EV purchase, so it’s all new to me.

arch_stanton · 03-07-2020 7:51pm

I’ve ordered the plus manganese grey. The dealer said early September for delivery but he thought Volkswagen were being cautious with the dates and it could come towards the end of August.

How does it work with the grants? Can the dealer apply once they get the car details from VW or do they have to take delivery and then apply? I forgot to ask about that. It would drive me mad waiting around for a few weeks with the car sitting in their yard

drunkmonkey · 03-07-2020 8:54pm

Are the 1st sold out, everyone seems to be opting for the plus now?

Redlim · 03-07-2020 9:07pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Are the 1st sold out, everyone seems to be opting for the plus now?

I was weighing up both options and they both seemed to still be available

unkel · 03-07-2020 9:44pm

njburke wrote: »

Just off the phone with the dealer, in to sign paperwork next week. How realistic is his stated August delivery?

Best of luck with your new VW! Does this mean that a lot of your quirky and eclectic watches will now come up for sale?

njburke · 03-07-2020 10:22pm

What I have I'll hold.ðŸ˜

L-M · 04-07-2020 8:46am

Just for people on the SEAI grant.

The grants can’t be applied for until late July/early August when the SEAI add the ID to their system. Also, they’ve a New system coming on stream soon so it’ll be a lot faster than usual.

For anyone that hasn’t done it before, you should send your dealer a copy of your electricity bill, this should have the details they’ll need ie MPRN, Supplier, account holder etc

Shefwedfan · 04-07-2020 8:51am

njburke wrote: »

Yeah, I only did the pre order a couple of weeks ago. The sales guy is very keen to convert orders passed on from vw to the dealers, can't blame them after the last few months. The paperwork is SEAI grant and finance.

I bought mine this time last year, depending on the colour VW had a stock in Ireland waiting for delivery to garages....have you checked if they have in stock in Ireland>

Shango · 07-07-2020 2:49pm

Hi lads, just ordered a plus in the manga grey. Avoided the Gard-X option, no way im letting some intern swirl the metallic paint they are charging us for! But anyone get an independent quote on the GAP insurance option, it seems quite steep, I payed a 50 euro surplus per year on last car insurance?

return guide · 07-07-2020 3:24pm

Shango wrote: »

Hi lads, just ordered a plus in the manga grey. Avoided the Gard-X option, no way im letting some intern swirl the metallic paint they are charging us for! But anyone get an independent quote on the GAP insurance option, it seems quite steep, I payed a 50 euro surplus per year on last car insurance?

Ordered mine today Plus in same colour, delivery in early September according to dealer. Believe it when I see it....

Black_Knight · 07-07-2020 9:20pm

Never really looked at the ID3 (with the release of the prices a few weeks back the prices of the plus and max put me off), but the "entry" 1st doesn't look a bad offering. I've a couple of questions which may or may not be answerable.

1. Are those the only colours, 2 greys, a white and turquoise? Is the turquoise in the brochure really what it'd look like in the flesh?
2. Boot space says 385ltrs. The boot in my Ioniq (350ltrs) is probably what lets me down the most (with almost 2 small kids). Is a 385 ltr boot the equivalent a golf or any other mid sized car? Would you notice that extra 35ltrs?
3. Frunk? No?
4. All this "it's passat sized inside"... in what way? Just leg room?
5. Is the deposit refundable if you decide not to buy?

unkel · 07-07-2020 9:22pm

Certainly not width. This is not a car suitable for a family of 5.

Black_Knight · 07-07-2020 9:28pm

unkel wrote: »

Certainly not width. This is not a car suitable for a family of 5.

Almost a family of 4 now, and i'd likely keep the car for 5 years until we need something bigger.

That all said, 35 isn't far from 41 (eNiro), or even a 2nd hand eNiro (if they exist). Which would be a family car, and likely a family car for at least 5 years.

Maybe a 0% finance option would ease my mind on the risk, but nope, VW decided not.

Silent Running · 08-07-2020 8:03am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Never really looked at the ID3 (with the release of the prices a few weeks back the prices of the plus and max put me off), but the "entry" 1st doesn't look a bad offering. I've a couple of questions which may or may not be answerable.

1. Are those the only colours, 2 greys, a white and turquoise? Is the turquoise in the brochure really what it'd look like in the flesh?
2. Boot space says 385ltrs. The boot in my Ioniq (350ltrs) is probably what lets me down the most (with almost 2 small kids). Is a 385 ltr boot the equivalent a golf or any other mid sized car? Would you notice that extra 35ltrs?
3. Frunk? No?
4. All this "it's passat sized inside"... in what way? Just leg room?
5. Is the deposit refundable if you decide not to buy?

1. Those are the only colours currently offered.
2. At Weston, the boot space didn't impress me as any bigger then my old Ioniq
3. No frunk, and no possibility if having one, unlike the Kona/Niro. There's not a scrap of space under the bonnet in the ID3.
4. It felt roomy inside, but Passat roomy? I don't think so.
5. If you're talking about the pre booking €1000, which you can still do, then yes fully refundable.

Black_Knight · 08-07-2020 8:21am

Silent Running wrote: »

1. Those are the only colours currently offered.
2. At Weston, the boot space didn't impress me as any bigger then my old Ioniq
3. No frunk, and no possibility if having one, unlike the Kona/Niro. There's not a scrap of space under the bonnet in the ID3.
4. It felt roomy inside, but Passat roomy? I don't think so.
5. If you're talking about the pre booking €1000, which you can still do, then yes fully refundable.

Cheers SR. Colours don't inspire me. White and potentially the turquoise are the nicest in my opinion. I've never liked grey on a car.

From the pics, the book only looks like it might be a tad deeper than the Ioniq, though removing the parcel shelves might open up a bit more space in the Ioniq than the ID3. Might be a non runner so.

With 2 under 2 "roomy" is only important in the boot for me.

Might have to hold out and try get luck on a second hand eNiro, or more luck on a cheap M3.

Silent Running · 08-07-2020 8:32am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Cheers SR. Colours don't inspire me. White and potentially the turquoise are the nicest in my opinion. I've never liked grey on a car.

From the pics, the book only looks like it might be a tad deeper than the Ioniq, though removing the parcel shelves might open up a bit more space in the Ioniq than the ID3. Might be a non runner so.

With 2 under 2 "roomy" is only important in the boot for me.

Might have to hold out and try get luck on a second hand eNiro, or more luck on a cheap M3.

There's a better than fair chance that I'll be moving my Niro on at the end of the year. I never keep a car long, and I'll have the Niro 18 months by then.

I've already talked to the dealer about it when I was booking my service last week.

timsey tiger · 08-07-2020 8:47am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Cheers SR. Colours don't inspire me. White and potentially the turquoise are the nicest in my opinion. I've never liked grey on a car.

From the pics, the book only looks like it might be a tad deeper than the Ioniq, though removing the parcel shelves might open up a bit more space in the Ioniq than the ID3. Might be a non runner so.

With 2 under 2 "roomy" is only important in the boot for me.

Might have to hold out and try get luck on a second hand eNiro, or more luck on a cheap M3.

M3 wouldn't be particularly "roomy" in the boot.

slave1 · 08-07-2020 9:27am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Almost a family of 4 now, and i'd likely keep the car for 5 years until we need something bigger.

That all said, 35 isn't far from 41 (eNiro), or even a 2nd hand eNiro (if they exist). Which would be a family car, and likely a family car for at least 5 years.

Maybe a 0% finance option would ease my mind on the risk, but nope, VW decided not.

If you are talking in the 35 to 41 region then you are well into a 2015 Model S, now that is a family car

unkel · 08-07-2020 9:32am

Silent Running wrote: »

There's a better than fair chance that I'll be moving my Niro on at the end of the year. I never keep a car long, and I'll have the Niro 18 months by then.

What's next?

Silent Running · 08-07-2020 9:53am

unkel wrote: »

What's next?

Maybe a 77kWh ID3, or a Model Y... possibly another Niro.

The bigger battery ID3 might not be available for January, the Model Y might be another year out, and Tesla quality control hasn't impressed me so far. Such a pity that Hyundai cocked up the Ioniq "upgrade", I'd go back to one in a heartbeat if it had the range I need. The Niro has been perfect for me, but I have an addiction to the new car smell.

Beyond that, I'll be watching what comes available for this cycle.

unkel · 08-07-2020 10:10am

I guess with your UK trips range is more important than anything! Ford Mach-E an option?

Black_Knight · 08-07-2020 10:13am

timsey tiger wrote: »

M3 wouldn't be particularly "roomy" in the boot.

Boot + frunk would give us nice usable space. The lack of a hatchback doesn't bother me. Ioniq is my first hatchback in a long time.

slave1 wrote: »

If you are talking in the 35 to 41 region then you are well into a 2015 Model S, now that is a family car

Got the measuring tape out again last night (our gate)... unless it's a bargain that I can flip without losing money, i've resigned myself to not owning an S. It's a sad day.

Silent Running · 08-07-2020 10:13am

unkel wrote: »

I guess with your UK trips range is more important than anything! Ford Mach-E an option?

Yup, if it becomes available here in time.

I've zero brand loyalty. The badge on the car means nothing to me.

slave1 · 08-07-2020 10:21am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Boot + frunk would give us nice usable space. The lack of a hatchback doesn't bother me. Ioniq is my first hatchback in a long time.

Got the measuring tape out again last night (our gate)... unless it's a bargain that I can flip without losing money, i've resigned myself to not owning an S. It's a sad day.

I had a relatively narrow entrance too, took a sledge to it, kept pillar intact, took two foot of wall down, moved pillar the two feet and boom, half a day later and all done and dusted

unkel · 08-07-2020 11:18am

slave1 wrote: »

I had a relatively narrow entrance too, took a sledge to it, kept pillar intact, took two foot of wall down, moved pillar the two feet and boom, half a day later and all done and dusted

If the mountain won't come to Mohammed

drunkmonkey · 08-07-2020 2:36pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Cheers SR. Colours don't inspire me. White and potentially the turquoise are the nicest in my opinion. I've never liked grey on a car.

From the pics, the book only looks like it might be a tad deeper than the Ioniq, though removing the parcel shelves might open up a bit more space in the Ioniq than the ID3. Might be a non runner so.

With 2 under 2 "roomy" is only important in the boot for me.

Might have to hold out and try get luck on a second hand eNiro, or more luck on a cheap M3.

If you've to fit a double buggy in it won't be much room left, have you a second car? I've 3 under 7's in the golf, fine for pottering around but for a weekend away etc you'd need something bigger.

unkel · 08-07-2020 3:23pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I've 3 under 7's in the golf

How on earth do they fit with the child seats and boosters? A Golf is tiny!

drunkmonkey · 08-07-2020 3:36pm

It's not as small as it looks, rarely the 5 us would be in it, just me and the 3 kids on the school run, herself has an xc90 if were all heading off.

unkel · 08-07-2020 3:44pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's not as small as it looks, rarely the 5 us would be in it, just me and the 3 kids on the school run

Ah ok, so just 2 kids in the back. The car is far too small of 3 of them.

drunkmonkey · 08-07-2020 4:01pm

unkel wrote: »

Ah ok, so just 2 kids in the back. The car is far too small of 3 of them.

Yea, it's no more squashed in the back than my previous 5 series with the kids. I'd fit 3 child seats in the back if I put my mind to it the last seats I bought are pretty slim and work as isofix and non isofix.
The boot fits an uppababy with the 2 seats + boogie board and you'd still have room for some shopping. It's a surprising practical car. I don't expect the ID3 to be any bigger except for legroom, 3 isofix is welcome though.

Cyrus · 08-07-2020 4:03pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yea, it's no more squashed in the back than my previous 5 series with the kids. I'd fit 3 child seats in the back if I put my mind to it the last seats I bought are pretty slim and work as isofix and non isofix.
The boot fits an uppababy with the 2 seats + boogie board and you'd still have room for some shopping. It's a surprising practical car. I don't expect the ID3 to be any bigger except for legroom, 3 isofix is welcome though.

mind me asking what the seats you got are?

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