De'Longhi Magnifica Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Maker £199

Bykobap · 01-05-2020 10:23am

kkhornet wrote: »

Think I'm in trouble with my caffe corso. It's been sounding "weak" lately, intermittently, and pouring the same. Sometimes the coffee comes out in literal drops for what seems like ages and sometime if I'm lucky it just pours as normal.
The grind catcher is just slushy grinds these days with nearly more water on the bottom of the inside of the machine than in the cup.
Then I came down to this greeting me this morning

When descaling machine certain components are not getting the treatment so limescale builds up and clogges them.

Maybe that's way you have overflowing issues.

Try running the machine normally with descaler added to water tank couple of times and leave it for a while before using it again. Coffee has to be added too in order for the machine to run its normal cycle.

To rinse it thoroughly from descaler run a normal coffee making cycle with maximum amount of water for a cup or even better for two cups. Once the coffee making cycle is done you can press-hold the 1 or 2 cup button immediately after and hot water will continue to pour for another 20 seconds thus rinsing it even better.

Mine machine had the same slow pouring issue and it was these components that are not getting the descaling treatment that were the issue. Once you take the machine apart it is apparent that crucial components are bypassed in descaling process. Bad design i guess.

Basq · 02-05-2020 12:04pm

I'm curious.. how often are people cleaning their machine?

Every weekend - I take out the tray, grounds holder, brewing unit etc.

All are washed in soapy water and rinsed with warm clean water, bar the brewing unit which I just rinse under warm water.

Is this excessive?

Also, have ran regular (when promped) descales since I've got it with Oust, but how often should I be applying lube to the brew unit?

mad m · 02-05-2020 12:45pm

When my young lad doesn’t empty water tray and water is just about spilling over or when I see some over spill of coffee has gone green. He is oblivious it needs to be cleaned regularly

02-05-2020 1:07pm

Basq wrote: »

I'm curious.. how often are people cleaning their machine?

Every weekend - I take out the tray, grounds holder, brewing unit etc.

All are washed in soapy water and rinsed with warm clean water, bar the brewing unit which I just rinse under warm water.

Is this excessive?

Also, have ran regular (when promped) descales since I've got it with Oust, but how often should I be applying lube to the brew unit?

theres a few different takes on the brew unit

one says never soapy water, it takes away the grease

but ive been informed that some of the places that actually service the machines never bother with the lube at all.

id say that if you hit the button to generat hot water into a clean white mug and see flecks in the bottom you might be advised to google a video for taking the brew unit apart and soaking it in very hot water before reassembling.

i leave the lube/no lube debate to the internet (im in the former camp) but when its assembled again you should be able to smoothly draw the pump action fully up and down with your finger.

if its catching or is jerky thats going to affect how it packs the grinds

illdoit2morrow · 02-05-2020 2:45pm

Basq wrote: »

I'm curious.. how often are people cleaning their machine?

Every weekend - I take out the tray, grounds holder, brewing unit etc.

All are washed in soapy water and rinsed with warm clean water, bar the brewing unit which I just rinse under warm water.

Is this excessive?

Also, have ran regular (when promped) descales since I've got it with Oust, but how often should I be applying lube to the brew unit?

I'm using my machine a lot since lockdown, 4-5 times a day. I'm cleaning it about once every two weeks at this point, emptying the box as needed and getting an old toothbrush out when the tray is out to clear out any coffee that's on the bottom. There's something a bit off with mine where i get a lot of coffee at the bottom, even the the box isn't full which is why it needs regular attending to.

Three is no real guideline for the lube, i just apply it when I'm cleaning that piece properly.

04-05-2020 3:40pm

if you want to go down the lactic acid descaling route (I'm pretty sure that citric is fine although some will vehemently claim that it will dissolve your machine in one go

)

50ml a time so 20 descales from this - 60p UK a go

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ENZI2EE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

71lxKTqHcnL._AC_SS350_.jpg

I only ever greased up the grey box thing inside once and just used a bit of light food oil

Alun · 04-05-2020 3:53pm

I take my brew unit apart for a good clean once or twice a year. It's not that difficult, as long as you make sure to take photos as you go along. You wouldn't believe how cruddy it gets inside, plus it's a good chance to take a good look at the state of the rubber o rings on the piston. I've replaced mine once as they were hardened and covered with coffee deposits. Sometimes also the little crema valve gets clogged up too, which you can also replace quite easily. You can get service kits with the o rings and silicone grease from a few places, mainly German sites. I got mine from komtra.de. Another thing that I do now and then is to run a cleaning tablet through it which cleans out parts of the machine the descaling procedure doesn't really touch. Puli kaffee is the make.

Alun · 04-05-2020 4:07pm

jayjbe wrote: »

Check the oring on the brew unit tamper/plunger. Should be big orange one. If you're getting intermittent issue maybe worn and not seated. I've seen this come off altogether and get dumped with grinds.

Yes, they can go quite hard and can break after a few years constant use. apart from getting coated in coffee deposits and not sealing properly. There's 3, one on the stationary part where the hot water comes from, and two on the plunger/piston inside the removable part and they all need replacing now and then. It's easy enough to do with the right instructions.

If you speak German, take a look at https://komtra.de/delonghi-reparaturanleitung-kaffeevollautomaten.html, or use Chrome auto-translate.

04-05-2020 6:27pm

the brew units go down as low as £28 if you have to replace it so not the end of the world

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeLonghi-Brewing-Company-Automatic-Machines/dp/B0052ZYEVO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CDWRO0MMCU19&dchild=1&keywords=delonghi+brew+unit&qid=1588613154&sprefix=delonghi+brw%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-1

caviardreams · 04-05-2020 7:23pm

glasso wrote: »

the brew units go down as low as £28 if you have to replace it so not the end of the world

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeLonghi-Brewing-Company-Automatic-Machines/dp/B0052ZYEVO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CDWRO0MMCU19&dchild=1&keywords=delonghi+brew+unit&qid=1588613154&sprefix=delonghi+brw%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-1

Yeah I gave in and got a new brew unit about a year ago - £32 I think including delivery - I had a good 5 years out of the old one so figured getting a new one instead of just trying to lube the old one wasn't the worst investment!

opus · 08-05-2020 7:09pm

Spotted on hotdeals.co.uk - Delonghi ECAM23.420 Bean to Cup Coffee Machine - £284.05 Delivered

Definitely looks fancier that the version I've got!

FastFullBack · 09-05-2020 9:51pm

Has anyone had an issues with the grinder not grinding for long enough. Normally it would grind the beans for between 8-10 seconds (I think) .
Since this morning it stops grinding after 3-5 seconds and thus gets only about a third of the required coffee grounds.

Gave the machine a good clean, removed all beans and I don't see any blockages.

Any ideas?

kkhornet · 17-05-2020 11:46pm

Bykobap wrote: »

When descaling machine certain components are not getting the treatment so limescale builds up and clogges them.

Maybe that's way you have overflowing issues.

Try running the machine normally with descaler added to water tank couple of times and leave it for a while before using it again. Coffee has to be added too in order for the machine to run its normal cycle.

To rinse it thoroughly from descaler run a normal coffee making cycle with maximum amount of water for a cup or even better for two cups. Once the coffee making cycle is done you can press-hold the 1 or 2 cup button immediately after and hot water will continue to pour for another 20 seconds thus rinsing it even better.

Mine machine had the same slow pouring issue and it was these components that are not getting the descaling treatment that were the issue. Once you take the machine apart it is apparent that crucial components are bypassed in descaling process. Bad design i guess.

Only getting back to this now, cheers for the recommendation. Gave the whole thing a good clean, descaled as normal and then descaled as you suggested and so far so good. Definitely pouring a lot better than previously.
It still sounds slightly weak but output seems fine. I'll give it a few days and hope it's good and hopefully no need to strip or do seals.
Thanks

Brego888 · 04-06-2020 11:03pm

Getting some grinds leaking into my cup recently. Any ideas on how to resolve?

04-06-2020 11:43pm

Brego888 wrote: »

Getting some grinds leaking into my cup recently. Any ideas on how to resolve?

whats your cleaning of the brew unit routine been, first thought

supue · 04-06-2020 11:53pm

Any idea where I can pick up the bits to fit the screws under the machine? The head unit got properly jammed after it was cleaned last weekend (clean every two weeks). It's jammed before but always resolved itself after a reset. Now I've four lights flashing in sequence.

I took off the back of the machine but can't get access to what looks like the motor for driving the unit up and down. The screws have some tamper pin in the middle of them, I've no equivalent bit and local hardware doesn't stock either.

dos29 · 05-06-2020 12:03am

supue wrote: »

Any idea where I can pick up the bits to fit the screws under the machine? The head unit got properly jammed after it was cleaned last weekend (clean every two weeks). It's jammed before but always resolved itself after a reset. Now I've four lights flashing in sequence.

I took off the back of the machine but can't get access to what looks like the motor for driving the unit up and down. The screws have some tamper pin in the middle of them, I've no equivalent bit and local hardware doesn't stock either.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00473OARU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_02x2EbHANWV5D

Brego888 · 05-06-2020 8:20am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

whats your cleaning of the brew unit routine been, first thought

Just a wipe down with a cloth internally really. Is the unit easily removed to be cleaned properly? It's about 4 months old at this stage.

FastFullBack · 05-06-2020 11:32am

Brego888 wrote: »

Just a wipe down with a cloth internally really. Is the unit easily removed to be cleaned properly? It's about 4 months old at this stage.

Ya very easy to remove, just squeeze the 2 red parts and it pops out. Recommendation is to soak in plain (non soapy) water to clean it.

keith_d99 · 05-06-2020 12:03pm

Usually get the Delonghi descaler off Amazon ... but it's over £20 a bottle (with no free shipping)

Been using it for years ...but looking up the thread - people are happy with citric acid?

dball · 05-06-2020 1:28pm

i think mine came one box of descaler - which i used when the machine warned me that it needed a clean,
I have a bag of citric acid here waiting for the next cleaning reminder from the DeLongi. I ordered it as part of another Amazon order so its sitting here waiting to be used, from what i remember there are loads of comments in the review section of the citric acid on amazon about how best to use it.

keith_d99 · 16-06-2020 9:08am

Ah no!!! my machine (6 years old now) is starting to jam up

When I go to froth the milk ... it moves inside but jams at the end with a creaking noise like it's stuck on something - and the warning light comes on (along with the 2 green lights).

Have taken the infuser apart and given it a clean - so not that.

Any tips to sort?

TimHorton · 16-06-2020 10:07am

My Magnifica is not making coffee ! , It will rinse and run descale process but when you select a cup of coffee it grinds and just when it starts to brew it struggles for a few seconds and the Water Tank Empty light comes and there is dry ground coffee in the drawer for the circular wet pods usually are.BTW it is overdue a descale but Argos/DID etc dont have any , What else is safe to use to descale

supue · 16-06-2020 10:29am

Mine is officially dead, the unit that moves up and down with the red sections jammed and I can't get it to move. I got access to the bottom of the machine to manually rotate the motors, but it won't budge. Machine was well looked after and cleaned regularly, I think it might have been a bit damp when it was reinserted as I normally let it dry overnight.

It's been moved to the garage, I ordered a new coffee machine from Amazon towards the end of May which won't be available till end July based on their recent email - I can't get it delivered via any other UK sellers or it's out of stock. I've been making do with a hario v60 in the interim.

supue · 16-06-2020 10:32am

TimHorton wrote: »

My Magnifica is not making coffee ! , It will rinse and run descale process but when you select a cup of coffee it grinds and just when it starts to brew it struggles for a few seconds and the Water Tank Empty light comes and there is dry ground coffee in the drawer for the circular wet pods usually are.BTW it is overdue a descale but Argos/DID etc dont have any , What else is safe to use to descale

There's usually plenty of generic descalers available in SuperValu/Tesco, or you can make your own with vinegar if you google it. You're paying a premium for the branded stuff, it's all essentially the same.

breeno · 16-06-2020 11:19am

Quick one guys, if you were making a drink with this machine - say an Espresso - would you measure out the amount of coffee beans needed for an Espresso and just add that amount or would you just dump a load of beans in the hopper and trust the machine to only take the right amount? Just want to make sure I'm not using too many beans per cup!

opus · 16-06-2020 11:28am

supue wrote: »

There's usually plenty of generic descalers available in SuperValu/Tesco, or you can make your own with vinegar if you google it. You're paying a premium for the branded stuff, it's all essentially the same.

I bought a two or three pack of descaler in Tesco a few weeks back as the machine lit up its 'descale me' light. Worked fine.

breeno wrote: »

Quick one guys, if you were making a drink with this machine - say an Espresso - would you measure out the amount of coffee beans needed for an Espresso and just add that amount or would you just dump a load of beans in the hopper and trust the machine to only take the right amount? Just want to make sure I'm not using too many beans per cup!

I just keep the hopper topped up, never fill it totally as better to store the beans in an airtight container.

16-06-2020 3:41pm

supue wrote: »

There's usually plenty of generic descalers available in SuperValu/Tesco, or you can make your own with vinegar if you google it. You're paying a premium for the branded stuff, it's all essentially the same.

wouldn't use vinegar.

citric acid is a decent option - not sure what concentration to use

lactic acid if you want to play it safe (50ml of 80% strength into the water container)

alexander11 · 16-06-2020 7:43pm

Hi All,

I'm in the market for a coffee machine for my parents. My budget is about 500 euro, would want a bean to cup coffee machine. Initially I was looking at Sage BES875UK, but I feel like my parents would use that only a handful of times as it's too much effort. So I decided to look into getting an automatic bean to cup coffee machine, hopefully with an automated milk frother too. Which coffee machine would you recommend? I looked at this De'Longhi Magnifica and it looks good, the only downside I can see is the fact that you need to froth the milk yourself.

16-06-2020 11:08pm

alexander11 wrote: »

Hi All,

I'm in the market for a coffee machine for my parents. My budget is about 500 euro, would want a bean to cup coffee machine. Initially I was looking at Sage BES875UK, but I feel like my parents would use that only a handful of times as it's too much effort. So I decided to look into getting an automatic bean to cup coffee machine, hopefully with an automated milk frother too. Which coffee machine would you recommend? I looked at this De'Longhi Magnifica and it looks good, the only downside I can see is the fact that you need to froth the milk yourself.

I bought the magnifica for my parents and they use the frother fine. it's a bit of extra time after making the coffee but not excessive and is pretty foolproof after doing it once and also gives you control over how you want the milk.

get a steel frother jug to go with it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-Handheld-Frothing-Measurement-Cappuccino/dp/B07CQH8RRJ/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=frother+jug+350ml&qid=1592345273&sr=8-6

when the jug is almost too hot to hold the milk is done

supue · 16-06-2020 11:11pm

I also recommend taking off the protective cover on the milk froth nozzle, you get a much better microfoam with it off than on. It's recommended on most of the various coffee forums too.

17-06-2020 1:48pm

supue wrote: »

I also recommend taking off the protective cover on the milk froth nozzle, you get a much better microfoam with it off than on. It's recommended on most of the various coffee forums too.

I gave this a go and found out one of the reasons for the screw-on cover.

the remaining plastic bit shot off the metal part of the steam wand mid-froth.

didn't seem to be making any difference before that tbh

the most important factor for the froth is the type of milk you use.

low-fat (not skimmed) milk gives you much more froth that full-fat

(it's what they use in coffee shops)

pleasant Co. · 17-06-2020 2:02pm

glasso wrote: »

I gave this a go and found out one of the reasons for the screw-on cover.

the remaining plastic bit shot off the metal part of the steam wand mid-froth.

didn't seem to be making any difference before that tbh

the most important factor for the froth is the type of milk you use.

low-fat (not skimmed) milk gives you much more froth that full-fat

(it's what they use in coffee shops)

Same happened to me some time ago, it was one of those grinds full, bean tray empty, out of water days... so well and truly peeved after cleaning that mess up. Also noticed no advantage so never bothered again.

17-06-2020 4:04pm

pleasant Co. wrote: »

Same happened to me some time ago, it was one of those grinds full, bean tray empty, out of water days... so well and truly peeved after cleaning that mess up. Also noticed no advantage so never bothered again.

could potentially end up with a nice boiling 100 degree Celsius steam burn if you were unlucky .

The_Honeybadger · 17-06-2020 4:57pm

Hey all. I have the Caffe Corso for nearly three years now and it has been very good, no problems until now. The grinder doesn’t seem to be working any more, when you try to make a cup using the beans it makes an impotent spinning noise and doesn’t pull the beans in to the grinder. Any ideas what might be wrong with it? Haven’t read the whole thread but presumably somebody has come across this.

I’m using ground coffee for now and it’s fine but I’d like to get the bean to cup feature back working if I could.

17-06-2020 5:18pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

Hey all. I have the Caffe Corso for nearly three years now and it has been very good, no problems until now. The grinder doesn’t seem to be working any more, when you try to make a cup using the beans it makes an impotent spinning noise and doesn’t pull the beans in to the grinder. Any ideas what might be wrong with it? Haven’t read the whole thread but presumably somebody has come across this.

I’m using ground coffee for now and it’s fine but I’d like to get the bean to cup feature back working if I could.

https://www.4delonghi.co.uk/kitchen-small-appliances/coffee-grinder/catalogue.pl?path=606400,606457

maybe check ebay for cheaper?

check youtube for installation etc. magnfica is the exact same machine except for the front fascia

17-06-2020 5:31pm

looks like a bit of wire-sorting involved...

maybe try this to find out what is wrong in the first place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8wPBnlQO9I

more results. everything is on youtube these days

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=delonghi+coffee+machine+replace+grinder

17-06-2020 5:44pm

glasso wrote: »

the most important factor for the froth is the type of milk you use.

low-fat (not skimmed) milk gives you much more froth that full-fat

(it's what they use in coffee shops)

true ^^^

time of year also matters!

gazzaman22 · 20-06-2020 9:19am

Hi all, have the original machine from the post, hit trouble this morning, while I was making a coffee about 3/4 way through the grinding process, it started making a noise like it the grinder was jammed/stuck/clogged.
Anybody have this problem, and any solutions to fix ðŸ‘

bromley52 · 20-06-2020 10:43am

gazzaman22 wrote: »

Hi all, have the original machine from the post, hit trouble this morning, while I was making a coffee about 3/4 way through the grinding process, it started making a noise like it the grinder was jammed/stuck/clogged.
Anybody have this problem, and any solutions to fix ðŸ‘

I remember a post in the past where I small stone was mixed in with the beans.

20-06-2020 11:08am

gazzaman22 wrote: »

Hi all, have the original machine from the post, hit trouble this morning, while I was making a coffee about 3/4 way through the grinding process, it started making a noise like it the grinder was jammed/stuck/clogged.
Anybody have this problem, and any solutions to fix ðŸ‘

open it up and have a look.

it's not going to fix itself!

see youtube video links above.

gazzaman22 · 20-06-2020 2:17pm

glasso wrote: »

open it up and have a look.

it's not going to fix itself!

see youtube video links above.

Hi thanks, I hadnt seen the above links, perfect I got into the grinder and took it out and managed to separate it enough to remove a fairly hard round ball that wasnt coffee bean nor stone, but was obviously jamming the grinder, all back together, good clean and just enjoying my first brew, Many thanks again for the help.
One last question, where should the dial on the grinder be set. 1 to 7?

20-06-2020 4:35pm

gazzaman22 wrote: »

One last question, where should the dial on the grinder be set. 1 to 7?

question that only years in a buddhist temple can allow you to find the true answer to

"look within yourself"

20-06-2020 6:18pm

gazzaman22 wrote: »

Hi thanks, I hadnt seen the above links, perfect I got into the grinder and took it out and managed to separate it enough to remove a fairly hard round ball that wasnt coffee bean nor stone, but was obviously jamming the grinder, all back together, good clean and just enjoying my first brew, Many thanks again for the help.
One last question, where should the dial on the grinder be set. 1 to 7?

I have it about 2.5

remember to only change the grinder knob when it's actually grinding coffee

mirrorwall14 · 29-06-2020 1:31pm

I love my coffee from this but I’m overdoing it on caffeine a bit. Does anyone have any recommendations for pre-ground decaf that I could use in the middle when I don’t want more caffeine. I’m currently using PS coffee roasters for my main beans

dashoonage · 29-06-2020 1:46pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I love my coffee from this but I’m overdoing it on caffeine a bit. Does anyone have any recommendations for pre-ground decaf that I could use in the middle when I don’t want more caffeine. I’m currently using PS coffee roasters for my main beans

ive the same problem and am currently mixing my coffee order 1 part decaf 2 parts beans from ponaire

https://www.ponaire.ie/product/decaffeinated-coffee/

mirrorwall14 · 29-06-2020 6:52pm

dashoonage wrote: »

ive the same problem and am currently mixing my coffee order 1 part decaf 2 parts beans from ponaire

https://www.ponaire.ie/product/decaffeinated-coffee/

Oh that’s not a bad plan at all thanks!

Esse85 · 29-06-2020 7:11pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I love my coffee from this but I’m overdoing it on caffeine a bit. Does anyone have any recommendations for pre-ground decaf that I could use in the middle when I don’t want more caffeine. I’m currently using PS coffee roasters for my main beans

How many cups is over doing it may I ask?

sweetie · 01-07-2020 3:13pm

Any good deals on beans similar to the discountcoffee one last year, I ran out recently. thanks

01-07-2020 4:06pm

Esse85 wrote: »

How many cups is over doing it may I ask?

I'd say that 4 cups is fine personally....

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/08/24/health-benefits-coffee-how-much-drink-and-there-risks/1639899001/#:~:text=Multiple%20studies%20have%20found%20that,Dr.

Caffeine affects people differently - some are more sensitive to it than others

Less chance of affecting your sleep if you consume mainly earlier in the day -> caffeine has a half-life of about 7 hours

Another thing is that Robusta coffee beans contain twice as much caffeine on average as Arabica beans

De'Longhi Magnifica Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Maker £199

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