Super Bowl LIII - Rams v Patriots

eagle eye · 01-02-2019 1:34pm

Imo no true sportsman would like to see the Rams win.

el Fenomeno · 01-02-2019 1:46pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Imo no true sportsman would like to see the Rams win.

You must have been delighted when the Eagles won last year then, as surely the Patriots' Super Bowl run was propped up by home field advantage won via the Jesse James call?

raze_them_all_ · 01-02-2019 1:46pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Imo no true sportsman would like to see the Rams win.

Imo your opinion is wrong

ELM327 · 01-02-2019 2:06pm

eagle eye wrote: »

It does change things because the game was over only for that no call.

What about the fake call on roughing the passer? Without that it is likely not NE in the superbowl

PhuckHugh2 · 01-02-2019 2:36pm

This must be a wind up. "No true sportsman". Pull the other one.

I couldn't care less who wins. But i think im going to shout against all the "True sportsmen". Sorry lads.

eagle eye · 01-02-2019 3:15pm

el Fenomeno wrote:

You must have been delighted when the Eagles won last year then, as surely the Patriots' Super Bowl run was propped up by home field advantage won via the Jesse James call?

Thay was a correct call.

eagle eye · 01-02-2019 3:17pm

PhuckHugh2 wrote:

This must be a wind up. "No true sportsman". Pull the other one.

Who are you? I'd love me to know who I'm talking to here. Just to see if you were a thanks whore with your previous username

ELM327 · 01-02-2019 3:17pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Thay was a correct call.

ELM327 wrote: »

What about the fake call on roughing the passer? Without that it is likely not NE in the superbowl

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eagle eye · 01-02-2019 3:25pm

What fake call?

ELM327 · 01-02-2019 3:27pm

eagle eye wrote: »

What fake call?

When roughing the passer was called (IIRC on 3rd down towards the end of the game) on Brady yet he wasn't touched.

PhuckHugh2 · 01-02-2019 3:40pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Who are you? I'd love me to know who I'm talking to here. Just to see if you were a thanks whore with your previous username

Who am I? haha. Who are you? This is my first time signing up here was lurking for a while.

*Also what is a thanks whore?

Foxtrol · 01-02-2019 3:43pm

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but boiling down your belief of whether a team should or shouldn’t be in a Super Bowl based in isolation of one ref call is just utterly stupid.

eagle eye · 01-02-2019 5:05pm

Foxtrol wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but boiling down your belief of whether a team should or shouldnâ€™t be in a Super Bowl based in isolation of one ref call is just utterly stupid.

Thanks for the insult.

The Saints brought the NFL to court over it.
It wasn't one call because there was two fouls. The whole stadium seen but all the officials missed it.
It's more than just one call. It was a game over call.
Saints should be in the Superbowl. Rams should not, they don't belong there.

Foxtrol · 01-02-2019 5:33pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Thanks for the insult.

Goes well with your ‘insult’ to a wide group of people implying that anyone who wants to see the Rams win isn’t a ‘true sportsperson’.

The Saints brought the NFL to court over it.
It wasn't one call because there was two fouls. The whole stadium seen but all the officials missed it.
It's more than just one call. It was a game over call.
Saints should be in the Superbowl. Rams should not, they don't belong there.

Saints bringing the NFL to court is even more stupid. If they actually won that case then the NFL would pretty much have to shut down the league. Every team can then have a replay for every bad ref decision in each game. Where could they possibly draw the line? Should a team only not be in the Super Bowl if they get a ref call towards the end of the game? Even if you said only the end of the game, what does that mean - in the last minute or last five minutes? You see it worse because of it being two fouls, what about two PI fouls on two different players?

Even without that call the Saints had multiple further chances to win and they blew it. Get over it (coming from a fan who watched his team lose a Super Bowl to some blatant poor reffing).

eagle eye · 01-02-2019 5:39pm

Foxtrol wrote:

Saints bringing the NFL to court is even more stupid. If they actually won that case then the NFL would pretty much have to shut down the league. Every team can then have a replay for every bad ref decision in each game. Where could they possibly draw the line? Should a team only not be in the Super Bowl if they get a ref call towards the end of the game? Even if you said only the end of the game, what does that mean - in the last minute or last five minutes? You see it worse because of it being two fouls, what about two PI fouls on two different players?

There is a rule to allow a replay of the time left. There is nothing stupid about their court case.

Foxtrol wrote:

Even without that call the Saints had multiple further chances to win and they blew it. Get over it (coming from a fan who watched his team lose a Super Bowl to some blatant poor reffing).

It's irrelevant how many chances they had, the game is over if that call is made.

PhuckHugh2 · 01-02-2019 5:52pm

It was a brutal throw from Brees. It would have been a pick 6 by Coleman if he actually turned around.

Its really just justice for the antics the Saints were up to during their last superbowl win. Karma is a bitch

el Fenomeno · 01-02-2019 5:53pm

eagle eye wrote: »

The court case brought by the Saints was rejected yesterday.

There was no court case brought by the Saints. The case was raised by two Saints fans.

eagle eye wrote: »

It's only now, unless there is an appeal to a higher court, that we are certain of what two teams will play the Superbowl.

Oh trust me, it was certain 2 weeks ago who'd be playing in the Super Bowl. If you think that case had any hope, you're living on a different planet.

My question to you is - had the correct call been made and the Saints thus ran out the clock and kicked the winning FG with 1 second left - would you be equally as appalled given the missed face mask on Jared Goff on the previous drive?

After all, that would have given LA 1st and Goal at the 1 with a chance to take the lead (they settled for a FG because of the missed call).

Would you be on here supporting a Rams court case instead? Where do you - you personally - draw the line and why?

Foxtrol · 01-02-2019 6:03pm

eagle eye wrote: »

There is a rule to allow a replay of the time left. There is nothing stupid about their court case.

It's irrelevant how many chances they had, the game is over if that call is made.

It actually does matter because a bad ref call that gives a team multiple different opportunities to still win (eg milk the clock more, score a TD, stop Rams on the last drive, score in OT) couldn’t possibly fall under the rule that you are trying to force here, as it can’t be deemed ‘extraordinarily unfair act’. If one bad ref call is deemed to be extraordinarily unfair act, then every bad call would then mean replaying the game.

I’m starting to suspect you’re hedging your bets in case your ‘underdog’ Patriots lose and you can then claim some sort of moral victory. Don’t worry, you’re going to hammer them.

bruschi · 01-02-2019 6:19pm

ELM327 wrote: »

When roughing the passer was called (IIRC on 3rd down towards the end of the game) on Brady yet he wasn't touched.

you recall wrong. It was a second and 7 play. It didnt keep the drive alive. The patriots were down 4 and had no issues completing third down plays at other stages in the game. It was a terrible call, no doubt.

What about two plays later when Eric Berry threw up a saddle on Gronkowski and there was no flag? Should every one pi$$ and moan about every little play on every game?

The bogus call on Brady had very little impact on the result of that game. The non call on the Saints had a far far greater impact. There is no comparison between the 2 incidents at all.

Foxtrol · 01-02-2019 6:25pm

bruschi wrote: »

you recall wrong. It was a second and 7 play. It didnt keep the drive alive. The patriots were down 4 and had no issues completing third down plays at other stages in the game. It was a terrible call, no doubt.

What about two plays later when Eric Berry threw up a saddle on Gronkowski and there was no flag? Should every one pi$$ and moan about every little play on every game?

The bogus call on Brady had very little impact on the result of that game. The non call on the Saints had a far far greater impact. There is no comparison between the 2 incidents at all.

The point is that you can Pi$$ and moan about calls in every game and it is pointless to look at them in isolation. Patriots DBs similarly had their hands all over the Chiefs WRs for most of the game, but that’s the way in the playoffs. Rams had several clear bad calls that went the Saints way.

What is crazy is when you pick specific bad calls and either demand a game is replayed or claim that the team who got them doesn’t deserve to be in the Super Bowl.

eagle eye · 01-02-2019 7:04pm

Foxtrol wrote:

Iâ€™m starting to suspect youâ€™re hedging your bets in case your â€˜underdogâ€™ Patriots lose and you can then claim some sort of moral victory. Donâ€™t worry, youâ€™re going to hammer them.

If it were a team who got there fairly then I'd have no issue if we lose.
I want this one more than any other one we have been in due to the travesty in New Orleans.
I'd love if they came out after the win, if they win, and tell the Saints fans that they are sharing it with them.
I don't hedge my bets. It's going to be a close game imo. It could go very right for us or very wrong but I think with those two coaches it's unlikely to be anything other than a very close game.
Donald and Suh vs Patriots offensive line will be very interesting. Patriots D vs the Rams run is another key part to this game. I don't believe Goff can succeed in this game without a successful run game.

Smokingdick · 01-02-2019 8:41pm

Who’s the half time act

Murph_D · 01-02-2019 9:09pm

Smokingdick wrote: »

Who’s the half time act

Snoop Dogg.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-02-2019 9:10pm

Smokingdick wrote: »

Who’s the half time act

The band who shall never be forgiven for that ad.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 01-02-2019 9:42pm

Apparently a bit of Spongebob will be thrown in to honour the creator who recently died. Not too sure how they'll manage that but should be interesting.

bruschi · 01-02-2019 10:16pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

The point is that you can Pi$$ and moan about calls in every game and it is pointless to look at them in isolation. Patriots DBs similarly had their hands all over the Chiefs WRs for most of the game, but that’s the way in the playoffs. Rams had several clear bad calls that went the Saints way.

What is crazy is when you pick specific bad calls and either demand a game is replayed or claim that the team who got them doesn’t deserve to be in the Super Bowl.

And I've never said different. I addressed a poster who claimed that if the patriots didn't get a call on a second and seven play with over 7 minutes left and only 4 points down, it is "likely that the patriots don't get to the Superbowl." whilst I agree with your point, there are ups and downs on calls during games, but the comparison being made between this call and the one in the saints game are completely different.

rebelyell99 · 02-02-2019 12:13am

The fact that it took Goodell so long to address the non call looks bad for the NFL. Anyway as a nfl fan im just hoping for a decent ball game to end what i feel has been a great season

dastardly00 · 02-02-2019 12:15am

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

The band who shall never be forgiven for that ad.

Jesus I had completely forgotten about that ad until you as subtly as possible referred to it in your post :pac:

Oh fcuk that ad drove me demented during the World Cup!

Black Swan · 02-02-2019 3:47am

markc91 wrote: »

Gonna be in NYC next sunday with the OH for the Superbowl, anyone been there before while its on and can recommend a good bar to watch it in?

Blondies Sports, 212 W 79th St, New York, NY 10024

jack presley · 03-02-2019 7:08pm

It's a long old day today and still another 5 hours to wait.

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-02-2019 7:17pm

jack presley wrote: »

It's a long old day today and still another 5 hours to wait.

I don't think I'll make it at this stage. Was shopping this morning at 8 and the scoops are flowing now.

Paully D · 03-02-2019 8:04pm

Must be the most quiet and tame build up to a Super Bowl that I can ever remember.

You’d be forgiven for thinking that it wasn’t even on this weekend.

fawlty682 · 03-02-2019 8:15pm

I would like to see Patriots win but their owner Robert Kraft is a buddy of Trump so not too bothered.

fawlty682 · 03-02-2019 8:16pm

Maroon 5 half time

Itssoeasy · 03-02-2019 8:17pm

Paully D wrote: »

Must be the most quiet and tame build up to a Super Bowl that I can ever remember.

You’d be forgiven for thinking that it wasn’t even on this weekend.

Yeah it's a strange one. I've kept up with the build up but I've not been watching everything I can either unlike last year and this week seemed to go very fast. I'll watch it obviously but I don't know, there isn't the usual hype or at least I don't feel the hype.

jack presley · 03-02-2019 8:31pm

I actually hate listening to the build up. I had NFL Network on there for a while and it was just painful to listen to. I'll tune in at about 23:38 and hopefully will have missed the national anthem and the rest of the crap.

Southdubin6 · 03-02-2019 8:32pm

Rams surely. Patriots incompetent RBs to help.

eagle eye · 03-02-2019 8:38pm

Southdubin6 wrote:

Rams surely. Patriots incompetent RBs to help.

Well obviously you haven't a clue.

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-02-2019 8:41pm

I'm happy with no build up. All about the game. I'll see it tonight or tomorrow (avoiding the score).

Southdubin6 · 03-02-2019 8:43pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Well obviously you haven't a clue.

Oh right let’s see I’ve screenshot this for later. But your right not got a clue, have you ever been to a live game or just a casual.

RobbingBandit · 03-02-2019 8:44pm

I'm gonna skip first half and half time show get a good sleep Patriots comeback special is written in the stars 41-38 in OT to the Pats.

Guffy · 03-02-2019 8:46pm

Southdubin6 wrote: »

Oh right let’s see I’ve screenshot this for later. But your right not got a clue, have you ever been to a live game or just a casual.

lol

Southdubin6 · 03-02-2019 8:49pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I'm gonna skip first half and half time show get a good sleep Patriots comeback special is written in the stars 41-38 in OT to the Pats.

As comprehensive as the panthers win against pats.

Damien360 · 03-02-2019 8:50pm

fawlty682 wrote: »

I would like to see Patriots win but their owner Robert Kraft is a buddy of Trump so not too bothered.

Listened to Jason Bell and Osi podcast recently, and they said both owners paid toward Trumps funding.

They figured Rams will shutdown Patriots run game and have the coverage against the throw game in the secondary.

I managed to watch most of the season and playoffs and the Rams shouldn't have taken the Saints game, especially with the crap call. So personally I'm rooting for the Patriots. The way they ruled over the Chiefs for most of the game and had more options going forward makes them favorites for me.

Hoping for a tight scoring game. Superbowl has been great the last few years.

Out of curiosity, how many here will avoid the Sky coverage and their useless presenter and stick to BBC, disregarding those of you steaming US channels.

Southdubin6 · 03-02-2019 8:56pm

Damien360 wrote: »

Listened to Jason Bell and Osi podcast recently, and they said both owners paid toward Trumps funding.

They figured Rams will shutdown Patriots run game and have the coverage against the throw game in the secondary.

I managed to watch most of the season and playoffs and the Rams shouldn't have taken the Saints game, especially with the crap call. So personally I'm rooting for the Patriots. The way they ruled over the Chiefs for most of the game and had more options going forward makes them favorites for me.

Hoping for a tight scoring game. Superbowl has been great the last few years.

Out of curiosity, how many here will avoid the Sky coverage and their useless presenter and stick to BBC, disregarding those of you steaming US channels.

I’m watching network most of the day absolute nonsense I’ll be sticking to bbc

eagle eye · 03-02-2019 9:12pm

Southdubin6 wrote:

Oh right letâ€™s see Iâ€™ve screenshot this for later. But your right not got a clue, have you ever been to a live game or just a casual.

I was a season ticket holder for two seasons in the 90's at Foxboro Stadium.
I've been to 27 Patriots games, 25 home games and two on the road.

As for my comment, Sony Michel leads rushing and rushing TD's in the playoffs. He is complimented by James White who has the most receptions in the playoffs and the biggest receiving yardage for a running back.

jack presley · 03-02-2019 9:14pm

The problem with sticking with BBC is that you have to see Jason Bell.

jack presley · 03-02-2019 9:15pm

Damien360 wrote: »

Listened to Jason Bell and Osi podcast recently, and they said both owners paid toward Trumps funding.

.

Like the argument earlier in the week about someone rooting for The Rams because Brady is a Trump fan, if you base your support on owners' political leanings, you'll have very few teams to choose from.

Southdubin6 · 03-02-2019 9:24pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I was a season ticket holder for two seasons in the 90's at Foxboro Stadium.
I've been to 27 Patriots games, 25 home games and two on the road.

As for my comment, Sony Michel leads rushing and rushing TD's in the playoffs. He is complimented by James White who has the most receptions in the playoffs and the biggest receiving yardage for a running back.

I’ve been at 5 games this year, I’ve been to multiples over the years. I believe SM will struggle and will be nullified by the rams tonight. If wrong I will hold my hands up but don’t think I will be.

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-02-2019 9:25pm

Southdubin6 wrote: »

I’ve been at 5 games this year, I’ve been to multiples over the years. I believe SM will struggle and will be nullified by the rams tonight. If wrong I will hold my hands up but don’t think I will be.

My mickey is bigger than your mickey.

Super Bowl LIII - Rams v Patriots

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