This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

Duke O Smiley · 17-02-2019 11:04pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-166-1-owner-low-mileage/21084524

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Investment buy? 1 owner 166, low miles, €1399

Duke O Smiley · 17-02-2019 11:06pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-190e-auto-fsh/20264786

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Could be a nice buy if its as good as it looks

84 190e, low miles, tested etc, €5500

Duke O Smiley · 17-02-2019 11:06pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-pop-rat-rod-v8-engine/21085507

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This is..interesting!

elperello · 17-02-2019 11:26pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1978-reliant-scimitar-gle-3ltr-v6-automatic-/21084162

Nice well sorted Reliant.

80sDiesel · 18-02-2019 4:55pm

Not many around

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Duke O Smiley · 18-02-2019 11:08pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/opel-manta-series-a-1973/21032231

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This is lovely

Duke O Smiley · 18-02-2019 11:09pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/spotless-mini/20821460

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This looks like a good price for a Mini if its as good as it looks (not that I'd pay it!)

Does certainly look like a proper "nut and bolt" resto job

darragh o meara · 19-02-2019 1:15am

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/opel-manta-series-a-1973/21032231

This is lovely

An absolutely stunning car in the flesh, much nicer than the Manta B that came after it in my opinion. I remember talking to a chap who owned and drove one for a while and he’d always tell the story about the “suicide bonnet” apparently they would turn into a mobile beheading device should you have a front end smash due to the bonnet being hinged at the front.

Gravelly · 19-02-2019 12:42pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/ford-pop-rat-rod-v8-engine/21085507

This is..interesting!

I know the lad that built that. Not to my taste, but there was a lot of time and effort put into it.

BorneTobyWilde · 19-02-2019 4:06pm

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1030034

I like this. Would be unique drive for sure.

Big Nasty · 19-02-2019 8:26pm

Packing a V8 I hope?

If not, it should be!

unkel · 19-02-2019 10:00pm

Pretty sure they have a PRV (V6) same engine as the DeLorean

Duke O Smiley · 19-02-2019 11:41pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1989-mercedes/21083704

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W126 300SE, 30 years old this August

€5500

Good price if its half decent. Ad doesn't inspire confidence but a phone call/viewing will dispel all

KevRossi · 20-02-2019 12:29am

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

W126 300SE, 30 years old this August

€5500

Good price if its half decent. Ad doesn't inspire confidence but a phone call/viewing will dispel all

Has very small time dealer written all over it. Neither a desirable interior, nor the best exterior colour but some sheepskin covers would do that the world of good. No word of MOT or anything else and you'd need to keep it under wraps for 6 months as well.

Worth a look all the same if you're in the market for one. Or chance it and wait 2 months for a price drop.

unkel · 20-02-2019 12:40am

You'll be hit with a large VRT bill and the motor tax is still at the €1500 per year level (€400 or so per 3 months). Why would you bother with that? Just wait till you can get your hands on a 30 year old one. Good few of them coming up from time to time in the UK.

hi5 · 20-02-2019 9:16pm

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unkel wrote: »

You'll be hit with a large VRT bill and the motor tax is still at the €1500 per year level (€400 or so per 3 months). Why would you bother with that? Just wait till you can get your hands on a 30 year old one. Good few of them coming up from time to time in the UK.

And make it a 5.0 too...:)

w124man · 20-02-2019 9:26pm

Is that on UK plates? In 5 weeks time there'll be Import duty on top of that and probably a fine for not doing the VRT in time. However on the plus side its got Lorinser alloys on it and in good condition they are worth €1500 plus!

Duke O Smiley · 20-02-2019 10:15pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rolls-royce/21111577

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€5k, what could possibly go wrong!?

unkel · 20-02-2019 11:13pm

That looks fantastic for that sort of money. Are these terribly unreliable?

_Brian · 20-02-2019 11:15pm

unkel wrote: »

That looks fantastic for that sort of money. Are these terribly unreliable?

No, but desperately expensive to do anything with.

unkel · 20-02-2019 11:23pm

Are they really? I got the impression that there are several decent RR indies in the UK that are reasonable enough. Parts are expensive but maybe not eye-wateringly, second hand from cars being broken? And anyone buying a car like this is only going to do small miles? But maybe over here it's a different ballgame and no RR indies?

Duke O Smiley · 20-02-2019 11:38pm

I've read too that not only are parts etc desperately expensive, but everything is very complex. So if you do manage to save a few quid buying parts cheap, you'll be paying in labour costs.

KevRossi · 21-02-2019 12:24am

That has to be a dog at that price.

It's underneath where they become really expensive, any rust and it can be a nightmare to sort. If the subframe is gone then it's possibly just for parts.

hydraulics need to be in top condition and there are some oddities like changing the coolant every 12-15 months as it somehow can cause the engine to seize.

You need a lot of specialist tools to fix them, so you need a dedicated Indy.

Decent ones are well over £20,000 in the UK (same cars were £8,000 5 years ago), so I'd be suspicious of that car. If it's anyways decent then take it on the boat for a quick profit. Seller says 'bodywork, paint and wood' need attention, so I'd say he means it's bad.

BorneTobyWilde · 21-02-2019 12:34am

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1960-heinkel-bubble-car-ireland-built/21116574

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Nice greenhouse, could grow a few Strawberries .

unkel · 21-02-2019 12:42am

KevRossi wrote: »

That has to be a dog at that price.

Does it though? Harry Metcalfe bought one recently for about GBP4k iirc and spent another couple of grand on it with an indy. Then he took it to the arctic circle. Only watched a few bits of it but it seemed to be a well sorted car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdNcbsgOiM

elperello · 21-02-2019 12:57am

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1960-heinkel-bubble-car-ireland-built/21116574

Nice greenhouse, could grow a few Strawberries .

He has some tasty MG pictures in his other ad.

swarlb · 21-02-2019 1:54am

KevRossi wrote: »

That has to be a dog at that price.

It's underneath where they become really expensive, any rust and it can be a nightmare to sort. If the subframe is gone then it's possibly just for parts.

hydraulics need to be in top condition and there are some oddities like changing the coolant every 12-15 months as it somehow can cause the engine to seize.

You need a lot of specialist tools to fix them, so you need a dedicated Indy.

Decent ones are well over £20,000 in the UK (same cars were £8,000 5 years ago), so I'd be suspicious of that car. If it's anyways decent then take it on the boat for a quick profit. Seller says 'bodywork, paint and wood' need attention, so I'd say he means it's bad.

The owner of that car has a classic restoration company in Wexford. He is not in the business of selling 'dogs' as he has a reputation to maintain. He is not hiding anything in the ad on Donedeal, and regardless of any of that, someone viewing the car will be in a much better position to judge for themselves. The asking price is quite reasonable compared to some of the real 'dogs' on Donedeal. Lay your suspicions aside for a minute, and try to accept that there may actually be genuine people, selling genuine cars for what they are actually worth.
http://classiccarcentre.ie/

unkel · 21-02-2019 2:01am

swarlb wrote: »

The owner of that car has a classic restoration company in Wexford. He is not in the business of selling 'dogs' as he has a reputation to maintain. He is not hiding anything in the ad on Donedeal, and regardless of any of that, someone viewing the car will be in a much better position to judge for themselves. The asking price is quite reasonable compared to some of the real 'dogs' on Donedeal. Lay your suspicions aside for a minute, and try to accept that there may actually be genuine people, selling genuine cars for what they are actually worth.
http://classiccarcentre.ie/

My normal 5 senses aren't great, although my vision has been damn good since I got my eyes lasered nearly 20 years ago

I do however somehow seem to have a 6th sense for ads. It gives me the green light when I sense the buyer is good and the item for sale is good. I have bought many many times over the phone or on the internet just based on this gut feeling of mine saying things are good. And I have never yet been wrong. I got this good vibe about this ad.

MrCostington · 21-02-2019 9:02am

unkel wrote: »

My normal 5 senses aren't great, although my vision has been damn good since I got my eyes lasered nearly 20 years ago

I do however somehow seem to have a 6th sense for ads. It gives me the green light when I sense the buyer is good and the item for sale is good. I have bought many many times over the phone or on the internet just based on this gut feeling of mine saying things are good. And I have never yet been wrong. I got this good vibe about this ad.

I think unkel is in love

I agree with the above to a degree. Certainly, on the flip side, there are ads that would put me off even picking up the phone, you know the person will be hard to deal with and slippers as f***.

But, some may remember my recent trip to Manchester to view a W123, the guy was so nice and honest on the phone/email and sent me over 20 pics that I asked for. He even collected and dropped me back to the train. But the car was a rust bucket when I lifted the carpets.

So, in my view, the ad is useful, but you really need a viewing.

PS sure is a lot of car for 5k!

Duke O Smiley · 21-02-2019 9:08am

Surely if that car was worth restoring, the seller would do it given his/her line of work?

swarlb · 21-02-2019 10:33am

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Surely if that car was worth restoring, the seller would do it given his/her line of work?

Why ?? His business is restoring cars for customers, if he was to spend his time and money restoring his own cars he'd soon be out of business.
I've no idea what it would cost to restore that Rolls Royce, but could easily cost several thousand and more, between parts, labour and then having to wait to get a return when (if) it finally sells.
Let's say for argument sake he restores it himself, at a cost of 10k. Regardless of him doing it himself, he would still have to account for paying the wages of his staff, and time spent away from customer cars.
Then when it is restored to a high standard, and he sticks it on Donedeal and tries to get a return on his effort, and looks for say €15,000.
Just guess what will happen...
"Rip of merchant, this was on a few months ago for €5k, probably just slapped a load of plop and painted it with a brush"
Either way he cannot win...
I've no connection with the business, but I do know the owner, and I've had a car restored by him to a very high standard, so I'm aware of the type of work he does.
I've seen this particular car close up, and while I know nothing about Rolls Royces, it seemed on the surface a decent car, certainly for the money being asked.

ELM327 · 21-02-2019 12:27pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rolls-royce/21111577

€5k, what could possibly go wrong!?

I would love to buy that and paint it rattle can matte black, and restore the interior including wood and carpets.

Lost my storage last year and I'm already paying for my corona to be stored so herself would go mad at me paying for 2 cars in storage!

unkel · 21-02-2019 12:34pm

Sell the Corona is what I would do

ELM327 · 21-02-2019 12:43pm

NEVER!
That car has a lot of history (including doing the "all the way round" on here a few years ago, the previous owner informed me) and I'll never sell it. I'll be driving that on vintage tax in 5 years!

It will look perfect beside a matte black rolls royce in my new garage :P

KevRossi · 21-02-2019 10:37pm

swarlb wrote: »

The owner of that car has a classic restoration company in Wexford. He is not in the business of selling 'dogs' as he has a reputation to maintain. He is not hiding anything in the ad on Donedeal, and regardless of any of that, someone viewing the car will be in a much better position to judge for themselves. The asking price is quite reasonable compared to some of the real 'dogs' on Donedeal. Lay your suspicions aside for a minute, and try to accept that there may actually be genuine people, selling genuine cars for what they are actually worth.
http://classiccarcentre.ie/

Grand, I put my hands up and apologise, but it honestly looked too good to be true.

Went to ring him this evening with the intention of looking at it this Saturday, the car is no longer on Done Deal. Absolute bargain at that price.

unkel · 21-02-2019 10:54pm

I wonder was it someone who read on here who bought it?

Duke O Smiley · 22-02-2019 9:26pm

Anyone going to the classic auction in Merlin tomorrow?

11wingnut · 22-02-2019 10:06pm

https://auctions.car-transplants.co.uk/vehicle-list/details/1968-ford-cortina-1600cc-petrol-manual-4-door-saloon-at-car-transplants-car-transplants-ltd/728918?x=0&type=0&make=

Duke O Smiley · 23-02-2019 6:11pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/rolls-royce/21111577

€5k, what could possibly go wrong!?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rolls-royce-silver-shadow-1977/21141066

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Wonder what its going for now!?

swarlb · 23-02-2019 6:51pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rolls-royce-silver-shadow-1977/21141066

Wonder what its going for now!?

Well.. I know he paid the asking price, so obviously he'll add on his own margin.

Duke O Smiley · 23-02-2019 11:27pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1987-bmw-635-csi/21132409?campaign=3

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This looks seriously nice for €13k

oceanman · 23-02-2019 11:58pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1987-bmw-635-csi/21132409?campaign=3

This looks seriously nice for €13k

all beamers of that era had very soft engines..

Big Nasty · 24-02-2019 8:28am

Love it.

I'd be a bit sceptical about the 387bhp though!

Seweryn · 24-02-2019 9:17am

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1987-bmw-635-csi/21132409?campaign=3

This looks seriously nice for €13k

Yeah, but the gear lever is designed to be operated by the passenger.

Kenny Logins · 24-02-2019 4:09pm

Seweryn wrote: »

Yeah, but the gear lever is designed to be operated by the passenger.

I'd like to know how they added 170bhp...

Duke O Smiley · 24-02-2019 5:05pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/vintage-cars/21100008?campaign=3

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Cheap(?!) 450SLC - €3800

outfox · 24-02-2019 5:21pm

The most ungainly Merc ever made. If they'd moved the rear axle a few inches forward, it mightn't have been so bad.

KevRossi · 24-02-2019 7:00pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rolls-royce-silver-shadow-1977/21141066

Wonder what its going for now!?

Saw it in Dun Laoghaire today, sounded OK at idle, big dent and scrape on the back left, didn't get a chance to look at it apart from that. They still have serious presence.

elperello · 24-02-2019 10:35pm

Looks like the best Carina advertised for a while.

A bit dear but seems to need no work.

(just an aside but does anyone know what is DLA?)

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1997-toyota-carina-e-gli-2-litre/21150622

supervento · 24-02-2019 10:54pm

elperello wrote: »

Looks like the best Carina advertised for a while.

A bit dear but seems to need no work.

(just an aside but does anyone know what is DLA?)

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1997-toyota-carina-e-gli-2-litre/21150622

i think "DLA" may relate to a Motability Scheme which they have in the Uk and Northern Ireland

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