We are 100 seconds from doomsday

US2 · 23-01-2020 8:02pm #1

Is Mary Robinson gone a bit mad ?

"The Doomsday Clock now stands at 100 seconds to midnight, the most dangerous situation that humanity has ever faced."

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1220388748791369731?s=19

robman60 · 23-01-2020 8:05pm

It loses credibility when for as long as I remember it's been at least five to 12.

buried · 23-01-2020 8:16pm

Just put it back an hour you politician idiots.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-01-2020 8:17pm

We might as well go out with a bang.

jetsonx · 23-01-2020 8:19pm

Yes, Doomsday is close alright. I've just watched a party political broadcast from Fianna Fail.

Wheety · 23-01-2020 8:19pm

I bet someone forgot to carry the 1.

floatwinner · 23-01-2020 8:20pm

https://youtu.be/2NRbycO0O_k

CageWager · 23-01-2020 8:27pm

A bunch of people scaremongering to secure their fat cat future creaming massive salaries and research grants from governments, international organisations, and nonprofits.

ednwireland · 23-01-2020 8:30pm

i hoped mary walked and sailed to the press conference

jonon9 · 23-01-2020 8:30pm

Enough time to rub one out then.

Dravokivich · 23-01-2020 8:32pm

Ah nuts, did I miss it? I'd hate to think I got left out.

Arghus · 23-01-2020 8:32pm

I think we're facing dangerous times, but doom is potentially more imminent than it was during the Cuban Missile Crisis? I don't know about that.

punisher5112 · 23-01-2020 8:34pm

Does this have anything to do with the game I use to play on pc called Doom???

23-01-2020 8:34pm

id say that for as long back as humans could garner attention and some small measure of control over their fellows by screaming that the end was nigh, that someone has been doing so

funny. the end was never nigh before, turned out things were ok mostly.

im sure this time its different though.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 8:35pm

May i ask the op a question?

What would it take for you to take climate change as seriously as she suggests it should be taken?

This is a genuine non agenda question.

I am not saying it is as serious or it's not as serious as she suggests. Put that aside for a moment what would it take for you to take it seriously?

Obviously the title is dramatic 100 secs on the world clock is a long term comparatively to us.

I think with our small life span its hard for us to grasp. Our perception is limited.

Let's say hypothetically she was correct.

How would someone explain this to you OP in a way you could understand and believe?

punisher5112 · 23-01-2020 8:36pm

Homer called out a date and time, nothing happened the Simpsons just went down hill.

2020Vision · 23-01-2020 8:37pm

US2 wrote: »

Is Mary Robinson gone a bit mad ?

"The Doomsday Clock now stands at 100 seconds to midnight, the most dangerous situation that humanity has ever faced."

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1220388748791369731?s=19

Looking on the bright side, we'll all be dust long before the State pensions time bomb explodes!

(Although I'm a tiny bit sorry for poor Greta Bunburger who may never see her grandchildren.)

dhaughton99 · 23-01-2020 8:39pm

ednwireland wrote: »

i hoped mary walked and sailed to the press conference

Chairperson of the Elders, I’ll have you know.

Wasn’t the head of that committee #metoo’d?

US2 · 23-01-2020 8:40pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

May i ask the op a question?

What would it take for you to take climate change as seriously as she suggests it should be taken?

This is a genuine non agenda question.

I am not saying it is as serious or it's not as serious as she suggests. Put that aside for a moment what would it take for you to take it seriously?

Obviously the title is dramatic 100 secs on the world clock is a long term comparatively to us.

I think with our small life span its hard for us to grasp. Our perception is limited.

Let's say hypothetically she was correct.

How would someone explain this to you OP in a way you could understand and believe?

I'll believe it when I'm under water or melting in the sunshine.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 8:48pm

Arghus wrote: »

I think we're facing dangerous times, but doom is potentially more imminent than it was during the Cuban Missile Crisis? I don't know about that.

It's interesting.

I have heard environmental activists suggest that certain world problems are not important as they will not last they will go. The cuban missile crisis ended etc.

But the climate will get worse unless we change.

I suggest to them though that the reason we find worldwide action hard ...is because of these human issues getting in the way. And we need to solve them too if we are to conquer environmental issues.

War is very damaging to the environment.

Also POVERTY impacts negatively on the environment. A lot of activists think its the other way around but they are uneducated.

POVERTY IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

Poverty often causes people to put relatively more pressure on the environment which results in larger families (due to high death rates and insecurity), improper human waste disposal leading to unhealthy living conditions, more pressure on fragile land to meet their needs, overexploitation of natural resources

If we solve these things we will be helping the environment HUGELY!

But a lot of activists don't point this out.

Poverty can degrade/deplete forests, soil, grasslands, and wildlife.

But a lot of activists are uneducated and think poverty actually helps the environment which is TOTALLY UNTRUE. And its a dangerous idea that massive companies are selling to get away with treating people like ****e and ruining the environment.

Solve poverty and war and you will help the environment.

DOES ANYONE REALIZE THE IMPACT HOMELESSNESS HAS ON THE ENVIRONMENT IN THIS COUNTRY?

Encampments have litter run off, toilet waste run off , homeless waste is a huge environmental issue.

Not only does it hurt the people who are themselves homeless it hurts the environment too.

But i never hear people talking about these problems.

All I hear is this vague idea we should return to poverty to save the environment. I think its the far right pushing this phantom idea. BECAUSE A RETURN TO POVERTY WOULD SCREW THE ENVIRONMENT!

We need to stop this thinking and educate people. We need modern day hygiene habits to HELP the environment. We are not asking people to line in hippy encampments. In fact that would be disastrous for the environment.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 8:48pm

US2 wrote: »

I'll believe it when I'm under water or melting in the sunshine.

Throws you in the deep end.

dhaughton99 · 23-01-2020 8:49pm

dhaughton99 wrote: »

Chairperson of the Elders, I’ll have you know.

Wasn’t the head of that committee #metoo’d?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/lawrence-krauss-sexual-harassment-allegations

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 8:50pm

We need to approach the environment from a sociology-econonmic geographical viewpoint.

War poverty etc.
If we solve all of these other problems .....a lot of environmental issues will be solved too.

Xertz · 23-01-2020 8:52pm

I'd agree we've a LOT of global problems and highly tense situations but that Doomsday clock adds nothing to it other than a confusing metaphor and provides nothing constructive to most people.

If you want to solve problems; define them and give people real concrete help to overcome them. I really find that scary Cold War relic clock does nothing other than depress people.

A serious, but hopeful message is far more useful to actually dig us out of our various messes. All that clock does is make people feel hopeless and fatalism / not caring sets in.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 8:58pm

Xertz wrote: »

I'd agree we've a LOT of global problems and highly tense situations but that Doomsday clock adds nothing to it other than a confusing metaphor and provides nothing constructive to most people.

If you want to solve problems; define them and give people real concrete help to overcome them. I really find that scary Cold War relic clock does nothing other than depress people.

How about this.

How reducing global poverty would stop climate change?

https://www.1millionwomen.com.au/blog/would-reducing-global-poverty-help-planet/

Poverty drives climate change. We must solve global poverty to stop climate change.

iamstop · 23-01-2020 9:05pm

The Wuhan Coronavirus will have a thing to say about his!

Neames · 23-01-2020 9:09pm

Wheety wrote: »

I bet someone forgot to carry the 1.

That's NumberWang!

Arghus · 23-01-2020 9:10pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It's interesting.

I have heard environmental activists suggest that certain world problems are not important as they will not last they will go. The cuban missile crisis ended etc.

But the climate will get worse unless we change.

I used the example of The Cuban Missile Crisis because it was the closest the world came to Nuclear War and effectively the end of civilisation. It ended, but at the time that immediate chances of all out Nuclear War was higher - way higher - than what it is now.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 9:13pm

Arghus wrote: »

I used the example of The Cuban Missile Crisis because it was the closest the world came to Nuclear War and effectively the end of civilisation. It ended, but at the time that immediate chances of all out Nuclear War was higher - way higher - than what it is now.

How do people calculate these things I wonder?

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 9:13pm

iamstop wrote: »

The Wuhan Coronavirus will have a thing to say about his!

The wha?

iamstop · 23-01-2020 9:15pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

The wha?

This:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/china-coronavirus-outbreak-latest-updates-200123133559818.html

This is it · 23-01-2020 9:16pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It's interesting.

I have heard environmental activists suggest that certain world problems are not important as they will not last they will go. The cuban missile crisis ended etc.

But the climate will get worse unless we change.

I suggest to them though that the reason we find worldwide action hard ...is because of these human issues getting in the way. And we need to solve them too if we are to conquer environmental issues.

War is very damaging to the environment.

Also POVERTY impacts negatively on the environment. A lot of activists think its the other way around but they are uneducated.

POVERTY IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

If we solve these things we will be helping the environment HUGELY!

But a lot of activists don't point this out.

Poverty can degrade/deplete forests, soil, grasslands, and wildlife.

But a lot of activists are uneducated and think poverty actually helps the environment which is TOTALLY UNTRUE. And its a dangerous idea that massive companies are selling to get away with treating people like ****e and ruining the environment.

Solve poverty and war and you will help the environment.

DOES ANYONE REALIZE THE IMPACT HOMELESSNESS HAS ON THE ENVIRONMENT IN THIS COUNTRY?

Encampments have litter run off, toilet waste run off , homeless waste is a huge environmental issue.

Not only does it hurt the people who are themselves homeless it hurts the environment too.

But i never hear people talking about these problems.

All I hear is this vague idea we should return to poverty to save the environment. I think its the far right pushing this phantom idea. BECAUSE A RETURN TO POVERTY WOULD SCREW THE ENVIRONMENT!

We need to stop this thinking and educate people. We need modern day hygiene habits to HELP the environment. We are not asking people to line in hippy encampments. In fact that would be disastrous for the environment.

Needs more bold and CAPS.

Blaze420 · 23-01-2020 9:18pm

iamstop wrote: »

This:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/china-coronavirus-outbreak-latest-updates-200123133559818.html

This is what happens unfortunately when people use hollowed out bats as ****ing soup spoons.

Pinch Flat · 23-01-2020 9:21pm

Should I Take the washing in?

punisher5112 · 23-01-2020 9:22pm

The only way to save the planet is for China to stop building mega city ghost towns and other pollution, the US is another that's draining resources.....

Many many more of course.

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-01-2020 9:23pm

Keep the sheep worried and in line

punisher5112 · 23-01-2020 9:24pm

No matter what this small island does it won't matter a fcuk.

Adyx · 23-01-2020 9:27pm

CageWager wrote: »

A bunch of people scaremongering to secure their fat cat future creaming massive salaries and research grants from governments, international organisations, and nonprofits.

You mean the people who own the arms manufacturers, fossil fuel companies etc. I presume.

There is money to be made from a responsible attitude to industry but not with current attitudes.

is_that_so · 23-01-2020 9:30pm

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Should I Take the washing in?

Well, there's a fair peasouper out there, so yes.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 9:31pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

The only way to save the planet is for China to stop building mega city ghost towns and other pollution, the US is another that's draining resources.....

Many many more of course.

WRONG.

Building proper waste disposal systems for the world's poor would solve a lot of it.

Solving all world conflict would HUGELY reduce climate change.

Military build up contributes to climate change.

circadian · 23-01-2020 9:33pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Does this have anything to do with the game I use to play on pc called Doom???

Doom Eternal isn't out until March, unless we're getting an early release and Mary Robinson is a fan of shotguns with grappling hooks.

iamstop · 23-01-2020 9:41pm

circadian wrote: »

Doom Eternal isn't out until March, unless we're getting an early release and Mary Robinson is a fan of shotguns with grappling hooks.

We all know she is.

Gynoid · 23-01-2020 9:54pm

"The science of the climate crisis makes it imperative that we take urgent action in 2020. We need a change of mindset in politics, finance, business and civil society." - Mary Robinson talking earlier...(Newstalk)

It's okay, Mary, the UN have got it covered....

"U.N. shipping agency, the International Maritime Organization (IMO), aims to reduce the industry’s greenhouse gas emissions by 50% from 2008 levels by 2050, a target that will require the swift development of zero or low emission fuels and new ship designs using cleaner technology.

In the first study into costs, researchers estimated that the cumulative investment needed between 2030 and 2050 would be between $1 trillion to $1.4 trillion, or an average of $50 billion to $70 billion annually for 20 years." ( Reuters)

Guess who will get that 1 trillion to deal with the 2.2% of the planets carbon emissions caused by shipping?
Why, it will be those very clever and well embedded rich folk who are invested to their oxters presently in carbon fuels ie oil, and their sideline industries pharmaceuticals and armaments, but who are all set to diversify pretty soon. Electric cars, carbon free tech, low carbon shipping. That would be them lucky billionaires who doubled in number since 2008 when the "people" were made to bail out bondholders and banks.

It's going to take trillions and trillions and bazillions of tax euros for these dedicated and heroic billionaires to diversify their portfolios to tackle the other 97.8% of carbon emissions so they can save the world, poor pets. Pass the collection plate quick, I'm all in.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 9:56pm

This is it wrote: »

Needs more bold and CAPS.

This was worth 10 secs of your life to post.

Apologies for trying to be clear and make it easier for people to read the post. I should have just let it be a wall of text.

That's all i was trying to do by the way. I like it when people highlight things or make them stand out.

Your Face · 23-01-2020 9:56pm

I going out to rev the car.

Peatys · 23-01-2020 9:57pm

So we all move to nyc and it'll be 100secs to 7.

Ger Roe · 23-01-2020 10:05pm

This is it wrote: »

Needs more bold and CAPS.

I think bold and CAPS uses up more electricity to display your post. It's not good for the environment.

Be careful with your bold and CAPS .... think of the children.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-01-2020 10:07pm

Ger Roe wrote: »

I think bold and CAPS uses up more electricity to display your post. It's not good for the environment.

Be careful with your bold and CAPS .... think of the children.

Maybe I should switch to bullet points.

But wait ....GUN CRIME!

gozunda · 23-01-2020 10:08pm

Whatever does finally get the human race - will be the last thing we suspect...

Why is it always the whoremongers and religous type fundamentalists who love screaming about doomsday type bs?

Doctors room ghost · 23-01-2020 10:10pm

CageWager wrote: »

A bunch of people scaremongering to secure their fat cat future creaming massive salaries and research grants from governments, international organisations, and nonprofits.

‘It’s like the time haughey addressed the nation and told them it was time to tighten their belts and live within their means.fcukin laughable.and we all know now what he was up to.

This is it · 23-01-2020 10:38pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This was worth 10 secs of your life to post.

Apologies for trying to be clear and make it easier for people to read the post. I should have just let it be a wall of text.

That's all i was trying to do by the way. I like it when people highlight things or make them stand out.

Try all you want, it's a mess and makes it harder to read.

We are 100 seconds from doomsday

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