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Dublin Airport Bus Service Changes & Discussion

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  • #202
    bikeman1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    devnull wrote: »
    Dublin Express Routes 782/783/784
    The timetables and route maps for Dublin Express are now showing on the TFI Journey Planner.
    https://www.journeyplanner.transportforireland.ie/nta/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST?itdLPxx_page=ttb&language=en

    Route 785 (Clontarf - Raheny - Coolock - Clare Hall - Airport)
    What looks like a proposed timetable for the 785 is now showing on the TFI Journey planner
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=503537&stc=1&d=1582359754

    No idea of a start date for this service at present.

    I had a look at the timetable for the Clontarf to Airport via Raheny route. Is it envisaged that the bus will be picking up at other stops on the route or ONLY those listed? Seems strange to me that there is no routing via Killester or if it is going along the coast, it is giving half of its catchment area to the sea and St. Anne's park for that section, and still no stop at Vernon Ave.?

    Maybe I am missing something. Also the running time of 31 minutes is quite ambitious, traffic can be quick slow on certain parts of that route and there is a lack of bus lanes for some parts too.

    It will still be great to see it happening, but I would allow a minimum of 40 minutes for this run.


  • #203
    koutoubia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    Mr.S wrote: »
    The same on their city centre routes. On paper it's possible but in reality, not a hope.

    They have been told by those who live/work/use the M1 corrider-tunnel - CC
    that the times are at best hopeful. They have also done a dummy run to see for themselves.
    They will have to 'adapt' the service as it settles in.


  • #204
    Fizzy Duck
    Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Fizzy Duck


    koutoubia wrote: »
    They have been told by those who live/work/use the M1 corrider-tunnel - CC
    that the times are at best hopeful. They have also done a dummy run to see for themselves.
    They will have to 'adapt' the service as it settles in.

    Flashbacks to Summer 2018 and us telling GA management that the times and interworking were aspirational at best.


  • #205
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    koutoubia wrote: »
    They have been told by those who live/work/use the M1 corrider-tunnel - CC
    that the times are at best hopeful. They have also done a dummy run to see for themselves.
    They will have to 'adapt' the service as it settles in.

    The key in all of this is who are "They" ?

    Invariably an owner or operator will want to maximize the Drivers productive day,and equally invariably,this introduces a certain conflict between accounting and operating norms.

    One "Dummy Run" would never be enough,and just cannot even begin to cater for the issues which arise daily in Dublin City's Traffic (Non) Management scenario.

    This is before we deal with the great Travelling Public and their huge variety of needs,expectations and entitlements.

    Best of Luck with your involvement and keep her lit !! :D


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #206
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    The times do look a bit optimistic, it has to be said.

    In other news, Aircoach have took delivery recently of 5x 2020 Plaxton Panther 3s which should see off the last of the Tri-axle vehicles in their fleet which is sad as the older coaches have better seats and more leg-room.


  • #207
    koutoubia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    The key in all of this is who are "They" ?
    As far as I can tell its no one in this country, as has been pointed out earlier

    Invariably an owner or operator will want to maximize the Drivers productive day,and equally invariably,this introduces a certain conflict between accounting and operating norms.
    I really dont want to comment too much on this.

    One "Dummy Run" would never be enough,and just cannot even begin to cater for the issues which arise daily in Dublin City's Traffic (Non) Management scenario.
    From , I believe , Thursday onwards reality of travelling times will come blindingly obvious.

    This is before we deal with the great Travelling Public and their huge variety of needs,expectations and entitlements.
    Just to clarify we have been instructed that the Free Travel Pass WILL BE ACCEPTED.We have been given other instructions but I wont go into it here and have said to my manager that the social media accounts need to be updated.

    Best of Luck with your involvement and keep her lit !! :D
    Thank You

    Answers in bold above.....


  • #208
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    koutoubia wrote: »
    Answers in bold above.....

    Fair play for the responses :)

    The reality of the Dublin Airport (and environs) situation is the huge potential for service improvement across the board in ALL forms of access to the place.

    So Dublin Express's arrival will not result in the total collapse of Airlink,Aircoach or any other Aer in the parish...there remains room for expansion and improvement for every segment.

    That said,the old adage of "Fail to prepare-Prepare to Fail" still stands.

    My fear would be that somewhere deep within the bowels of this operation lurks a "Virtual" scenario,as in overall top-down planning emanating from a Laptop deep in Northern England and powered by Google.

    Possibly the single greatest aid to a Drivers performance is CLARITY...of purpose,of intent and of operation.

    If a Driver is confident of their role,position and support then that driver can self-confidently do their job.

    Remove any one strand of that Clarity and you set the scene for indecision,error and inefficiency.

    With any luck,and appreciation,the Dublin Express situation will clarify and firm up before the startup leaving the front-line staff well prepared to do their stuff,but be very certain that it is the DRIVER who will be the first (and often ONLY) interface that a Customer will interact with.

    ;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #209
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    For the benefit of Aircoach customers walking from T2 to zone 11 from next week....

    I was dropped off at T2 for the last time this week and had time to do a recce to find where I will be picking up up my bus next week in zone 11.

    My advice is to not use the glass walkway at ground level and don’t even bother crossing the glass bridge from T2 arrivals. Instead, go straight down to the Aer Lingus check-in area on the ground floor, then exit the building, turn left and walk over to the white car park building, keeping it on your left. As soon as you reach the point where people exit from T1, do a right across just one section of zebra crossing, then turn right and you’ll find Zone 11.

    Yesterday (Tue 25th), it wasn’t even signed but a helpful DAA guide showed me where it will be.


  • #210
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Air Coach saying on their Facebook page that they will still drop off at T2, pickups only from T1


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  • #211
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Air Coach saying on their Facebook page that they will still drop off at T2, pickups only from T1

    Indeed, which directly contradicts what they said on Facebook earlier, too :)


  • #212
    RuleNumber6
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭RuleNumber6


    koutoubia wrote: »
    Answers in bold above.....

    If an operator accepts the free pass, presumably they can claim a certain amount of the lost fare back but not all of it? Does anyone know if there any information on this anywhere on how this works?


  • #213
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    RuleNumber6 wrote: »
    If an operator accepts the free pass, presumably they can claim a certain amount of the lost fare back but not all of it? Does anyone know if there any information on this anywhere on how this works?

    FTP arrangements between Private Sector Operators and the DEASP,who operate the FTP scheme,are negotiated and concluded on a Commercial basis.

    As such,the details are not usually in the Public Domain.

    However the Dept and the CIE Group do make the relevant information available,which last year did point to at least some information on the discounting applied.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/free-travel-scheme-in-doubt-amid-fears-of-overuse-1.4002887

    Nunber of entitled persons...
    There are currently about 948,000 individuals who have been issued with free travel passes – up from 813,000 five years ago.

    According to the NTA, a total of 166,150 new passes were issued last year – up 3 per cent on 2017 figures.

    The use of the word 'about' did raise as an issue many years ago,when the Northern Ireland authorities sought details of their potential addional exposure,during the 32 County Free Travel negotiations overseen by the late Minister Seamus Brennan.
    The Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection, which oversees the issuing of free travel passes, said funding of the scheme had been increased by €5 million this year to €95 million after an extra €10 million had been provided in 2018.

    Annual funding of the scheme had remained static at €77 million between 2010 and 2015 before it was increased by €3 million the following year.

    In response to a parliamentary question earlier this year, the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection, Regina Doherty, said more than €69 million was paid to the CIÉ group last year.

    “This payment reflects a range of factors negotiated over the years including fare increases, peak-time access to free travel, service improvements, changes and enhancements. A discount of 40 per cent is applied to reflect the fares-foregone nature of the scheme,” Ms Doherty said.

    Private transport operators have a 30 per cent discount applied to their funding through the scheme.

    :)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #214
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    It has been revealed that the offline price of tickets is €7 and the €6 price is only online.,

    Also the service will launch with a special offer
    To celebrate the launch of Dublin Express, if you buy a one-way ticket for travel in March you’ll get an extra journey for free.

    For example, if you’ve booked a ticket from Dublin Airport to Dublin City, you can use that ticket to travel from Dublin City back to Dublin Airport. To claim your free journey simply show the driver your ticket. Please note, your free journey can only be redeemed for travel in March 2020 and is subject to availability.

    This offer can be claimed either through tickets purchased online, at the airport or with one of our drivers. Drivers can only accept card payments.

    Online fare: €6 per adult. €1.50 per child
    At the airport or with a driver: €7 per adult. €2 per child


  • #215
    devnull
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    First one spotted in full livery
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/darren_hall/49593141982/in/photolist-2iynPj7-2isrsmz-2ic4EoJ-2gizAQv-2gizAVa-2gizPMe-2hJhQSr-22Qm8Gt-EuGZo2-2gizPAs-2giA8E7-2ehyAdA-2ehyAe7-2ehyAaE-2ehyA7y-2ehyA5Q-2ehyAcJ-RC8iK4-24LQq8K-2ehqPpw-2bbkdum-2hJkpHv-2hJmuLL-2hJkpFX-24DjWLj-22Qm94F-Z4gv2E-WUmZFY-KTdLfG-L7pJNn-227uWxq-WvDZZ8-W81b5L-WHhhPg-WvE5Di-SD3sDM-LCKxKT-Jf9qPy-HWBnmR-HQfddV-HRYVPL-HuztSw-Hux3m5-GZfpRR-HRVFJ7-GZfozc-GZ8Dd5-HNA7H8-HRVGiU-HuwXdj


  • #216
    koutoubia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    Surprised you only spotted one as there were 3 doing laps of the city routes all day today!


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  • #217
    devnull
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    koutoubia wrote: »
    Surprised you only spotted one as there were 3 doing laps of the city routes all day today!

    I'm currently out of the country, so wouldn't have chance, not my photo anyway!


  • #218
    koutoubia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    I did spot someone taking pics as the coach as I was on was passing him.


  • #219
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Nice livery. It's kept in the Dublin colours too which looks decent.


  • #220
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,192 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Come on #785... will be very handy for getting to\from Eastpoint Business Park to the airport. Should be popular service.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #221
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Aircoach have now responded to the special offer by Dublin Express by offering an €8 return ticket, which doesn't seem to have any definitive time limit on it, unlike the Dublin Express offer.

    Best-Value-Return-WebBanner-V4.jpg

    In the ad above they are emphasising the each way price which works out at €4, which is clearly a slightly different marketing ploy than saying you pay €6 and get a journey free.

    I wonder what the response of Airlink will be, which looks poor value now for central locations.


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  • #222
    p_haugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    I’ve also noticed that the destination display for the 700 from the airport has changed. It now says “CITY CENTRE” before changing to “for Leopardstown” in small text. Another ploy to catch more customers perhaps??


  • #223
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    p_haugh wrote: »
    I’ve also noticed that the destination display for the 700 from the airport has changed. It now says “CITY CENTRE” before changing to “for Leopardstown” in small text. Another ploy to catch more customers perhaps??

    Not sure that's a ploy that will do much.

    Things like that work well when you have two operators within sight of each other and you want to emphasise that you offer something. If for example Aircoach had the Airlink stops, I'd totally see why they would do that but your average person who sees Dublin Express and Airlink won't even bother to walk further.

    However the only people that would see it would be the people that have already gone past their two competitors and those have probably already decided not to use Airlink or Dublin Express anyway so it's not going to influence people much at the end of the day as the only people will see it will be the already converted or long time users.

    The only viable strategy for Aircoach would be to try and push marketing of forward booking. Their walk up business is going to get hit quite a bit from next week for those who are going to the city centre, no doubt about that so the best way of overcoming that problem is to try and create a culture of securing passengers before they land.

    To be fair to Aircoach, having the online price at €8 return but not cutting the cash price is very sensible. The problem for them having a good walk-up price for city centre travel is people may then feel there is no benefit to booking in advance and then they are liable to go with someone else on the day.


  • #224
    belfast stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭belfast stephen


    i thought Dublin epress would have been all over facebook pushing there new serivces but they have been very quiet


  • #225
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Aircoach have issued a press release, although not sure how well the media outlets will take it up, as it's not exactly news at the end of the day, although it does stress a few USPs and the history of the company and it's background and what it's doing at the moment etc.

    https://www.ittn.ie/news/aircoach-is-on-the-move-at-dublin-airport/
    Aircoach, Airport Coach Operator of the Year 2020, which is celebrating 20 years in business, will relocate to its new pick up location at Dublin Airport’s Terminal 1 from Tuesday, March 3rd at 01.00am. The move will now see customers departing from the coach park at Zone 11, located just a minute’s walk from Terminal 1.

    Aircoach is Ireland’s longest-serving provider of 24-hour coach services, operating across five key routes. Aircoach connects Dublin Airport – Dublin City Centre – Donnybrook – Leopardstown every 15 minutes which includes its popular O’Connell Street stop; while its Dublin Airport – Greystones and Dublin Airport – Dalkey/ Killiney services run every hour via Ballsbridge. For its intercity routes, Aircoach runs hourly services from Cork and Belfast cities to Dublin City Centre and Dublin Airport.

    In 2019, Aircoach transported over 2.6 million passengers, an increase on 2018 numbers. The company also introduced a new mobile ticketing app in the summer of 2019, offering customers more options to pre-pay for their tickets, avoiding having to queue at the ticket desk at Dublin Airport. 2019 also saw Aircoach partner with St. Michaels’s House services for the intellectually disabled as their charity partner.

    As the official coach supplier to Leinster Rugby, team members Gary Ringrose, Ed Byrne and Jack Conan were on hand to announce Aircoach’s relocation in Dublin Airport.

    This March, Aircoach will also invest €1.3 million in their Cork-Dublin route, with the introduction of five new state of the art vehicles on the 24 hour, seven days a week, transport service between these two important urban centres and Dublin Airport.

    Simon Goff, Interim Managing Director of Aircoach said, “We are committed to providing the best possible services for our customers, making journeys even easier and as hassle free as possible across our five routes connecting Dublin City, Cork and Belfast. Investing in new coaches and technology has enabled us to grow over the last number of years and improve our customer experience. With more people now choosing to use public transport than ever before, efficiency is key and our new pick up/ drop off location in Dublin Airport’s Zone 11 will enable Aircoach to continue to provide the most efficient service for our customers.”

    In November of 2019, Aircoach received the award for ‘Coach Operator of the Year – Airport Services’ at the 2020 Fleet Bus and Coach Awards.

    For all the PR that the above has, the simple fact is it won't make up for the fact they're now out of the way for walk-up passengers or those heading through the city centre. You'd have to ask why it's took being relegated from a prime spot at Dublin Airport for their PR and marketing efforts to effectively wake up.


  • #226
    devnull
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    belfast stephen wrote: »
    i thought Dublin epress would have been all over facebook pushing there new serivces but they have been very quiet

    Waiting for tomorrow I've heard...

    Surprisingly still no response from Airlink.


  • #227
    koutoubia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    belfast stephen wrote: »
    i thought Dublin epress would have been all over facebook pushing there new serivces but they have been very quiet

    They may have other things to be worrying about :P


  • #228
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Anyone reading the first part of that Aircoach press release (which only mentions departures) would be forgiven for assuming that they will continue to set down at T2.

    You have to wade through all of the self-congratulatory PR BS to read that Zone 11 will be for both set down and pick up.


  • #229
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    coylemj wrote: »
    Anyone reading the first part of that Aircoach press release (which only mentions departures) would be forgiven for assuming that they will continue to set down at T2.

    You have to wade through all of the self-congratulatory PR BS to read that Zone 11 will be for both set down and pick up.

    The Press Release also mentions an Interim Managing Director,Simon Goff.

    So,what has become of Dervla McKay,who's arrival at the helm was rather more well publicised in 2018 ?

    http://www.donegalwoman.ie/2018/05/31/dervla-mckay-leads-way-new-career-appointment/


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #230
    devnull
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    AlekSmart wrote: »
    The Press Release also mentions an Interim Managing Director,Simon Goff.

    So,what has become of Dervla McKay,who's arrival at the helm was rather more well publicised in 2018 ?

    http://www.donegalwoman.ie/2018/05/31/dervla-mckay-leads-way-new-career-appointment/

    She's believed to be using her entitlement to leave at the moment.

    Meanwhile the Aircoach website has been given a fresh lick of paint - amazing what a bit of competition can do!


  • #231
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Dublin Express realtime info is up
    https://coachtracker.dublinexpress.ie/


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  • #232
    devnull
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    New Bus Stop Layout
    Click here for the new bus stops zone map in force from 3rd March 2020.


  • #233
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    One of the Dublin Express just passed me on the quays heading for the airport. 1 passenger on it. A full 747 behind it.

    Think they need to do a bit more advertising to take off


  • #234
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    One of the Dublin Express just passed me on the quays heading for the airport. 1 passenger on it. A full 747 behind it.

    Think they need to do a bit more advertising to take off

    That's to be expected and not worrying at all.

    Dublin Express will be more focused on traffic going the other way initially. Those loadings are the key in the early days as ultimately the walk up guys at the airport will be the future passengers from the city too with the free return offer.

    Wonder how Aircoach 700 loads are holding up from the airport and how the bleed is distributed between airlink and Dublin Express.


  • #235
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Aircoach have posted quite a nifty video showing how to get to their new stops from T1.

    https://www.facebook.com/147682021969449/posts/3559554237448860/

    Also is it me or right at the start of the video does the screen in the lobby of arrivals appear to be showing a map of new stop too? If so that's very clever advertising booking by aircoach.


  • #236
    p_haugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    devnull wrote: »
    Also is it me or right at the start of the video does the screen in the lobby of arrivals appear to be showing a map of new stop too? If so that's very clever advertising booking by aircoach.

    It does indeed, quite a clever move!


  • #237
    koutoubia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    One of the Dublin Express just passed me on the quays heading for the airport. 1 passenger on it. A full 747 behind it.

    Think they need to do a bit more advertising to take off

    Airport outound was surprising busy.
    And even if there was only one person on the return ...it being the first day it was a good result for DE/NEX.


  • #238
    belfast stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭belfast stephen


    I see there is a Volvo jonkheere in full Dublin Express livery aswell. I wonder is that the jonkheere that was in full NX livery for the cork to London service


  • #239
    belfast stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭belfast stephen


    Anyone know how the 3 new services are running and what the loading are like


  • #240
    mickmmc
    Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭mickmmc


    My observations:

    The Aircoach service I used set down at terminal 2.

    There is no loop of terminal 2 to terminal 1, which saves 5 mins.

    The 191 Leinster Rugby branded Panther was on the 702 City Direct service.

    There is only parking for 3 coaches in Zone 11 for Aircoach. Space is tight for the size of the Aircoach operation.


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  • #241
    devnull
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    mickmmc wrote: »
    My observations:

    The Aircoach service I used set down at terminal 2.

    There is no loop of terminal 2 to terminal 1, which saves 5 mins.

    The 191 Leinster Rugby branded Panther was on the 702 City Direct service.

    There is only parking for 3 coaches in Zone 11 for Aircoach. Space is tight for the size of the Aircoach operation.

    They've reconfigured that part of the bus park to allow a further coach in that row to what it was before the changes. Have to say that Aircoach have decorated it well though, looks good even if the majority of people won't see it.

    That Leinster wrapped Panther is for 700/702/703 only and frequently gets hooked off for events for charities and Leinster Rugby team work, the rest of the 2019 Panthers are for the Cork route.

    From what I've seen Aircoach have been hit ex airport for passengers by a fair bit although their to airport passenger numbers have not yet took a hit but I assume they will soon when tourists start using their free return journey to travel back to airport.


  • #242
    AngryLips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Hi guys, I live near and use the quays daily but I haven't noticed any Dublin Express service passing by since services launched. Does anyone know what the bus actually looks like and is pick-up the same stop on Arran Quay as the 747 stop? Am hoping to try it out later this month.


  • #243
    Garlinge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Garlinge


    We used Aircoach last night. Bitter cold and in light clothes so felt the walk but thanks to chap who posted tip about exit from Terminal 2 by Aer Lingus checkins. It is a windswept place to have to stand about and wait if no bus available. In old place you could nip back into main building for a coffee or loo visit if time allowed. We want to get southside and new service no good to interconnect with regular buses from city centre as does not go down O'Connell Street where they overlap.


  • #244
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    I have to say that we are going to see a lot of fun and games the next little while in this battle. I was curious how First would react to DX starting up but everything I've seen from them on social media and elsewhere suggests (surprisingly) they're well up for a fight.

    I got on an Aircoach tonight and the driver I was on was actively upselling returns and repeating some of the benefits of the service when selling tickets. Not sure if this was done off his own back or it is something that has been requested from management, anyone else had the same? Ddid anyone get one of the goodie bags on Tuesday? Did they really put branded powerbanks in them?
    Garlinge wrote: »
    We used Aircoach last night. Bitter cold and in light clothes so felt the walk but thanks to chap who posted tip about exit from Terminal 2 by Aer Lingus checkins. It is a windswept place to have to stand about and wait if no bus available. In old place you could nip back into main building for a coffee or loo visit if time allowed. We want to get southside and new service no good to interconnect with regular buses from city centre as does not go down O'Connell Street where they overlap.

    That's the problem with the new position, Aircoach have a couple of shelters but they're not going to be anywhere near sufficient enough in the winter even if Aircoach hold onto most of their passengers, let alone all of them. You'd have to imagine that DX might expand their offering in future to additional stops, but now they seemed focused on the city centre walk p traffic at the airport. H
    AngryLips wrote: »
    Hi guys, I live near and use the quays daily but I haven't noticed any Dublin Express service passing by since services launched. Does anyone know what the bus actually looks like and is pick-up the same stop on Arran Quay as the 747 stop? Am hoping to try it out later this month.

    Here's a photo
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/darren_hall/49593141982

    More detailed info on stops to the airport here (on the wrong page!)
    https://www.dublinexpress.ie/airport-to-city.html


  • #245
    belfast stephen
    Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭belfast stephen


    Was at the airport today seemed busy enough for Dublin Express plenty of staff on hand to help any Passangers. Plenty of Signs for Aircoach to re direct passangers to the new Stop loadings not to bad on Aircoach they still have there Sales Counter at the Stop as well.but the test for both Dublin Express and Aircoach will be when Peak season starts at the Airport


  • #246
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Garlinge wrote: »
    We used Aircoach last night. Bitter cold and in light clothes so felt the walk but thanks to chap who posted tip about exit from Terminal 2 by Aer Lingus checkins.

    Cheers, that was my tip (post #216) and I tested it myself when I flew back to Dublin last Tuesday.

    If you arrive into T2 on a cold and/or wet day, as soon as you exit into the arrivals area, go down the escalator on the left to the Aer Lingus check-in area and exit T2 there to go over to Zone 11 for the Aircoach.


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  • #247
    Garlinge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Garlinge


    Is there any way to go to T1 "airside" on arrival and exit there thru T1 passport control if only with hand luggage.? With departures you can move between terminals after security. Probably longer walk but on a wet night?


  • #248
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,555 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No. The only connections are outbound airside and the semi connection landside arrivals (that still dumps you outside)

    Even if you land at a T1 gate for an Aer Lingus flight you are brought out through T2 passport control / baggage hall via another corridor


  • #249
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    I think there is a transfer corridor tho? I don't know if its always open AND it probably would take more time than just going out side.


  • #250
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    There's a write-up of the current situation along with a good few pics from the airport etc on the Bus and Train User Blog, which is run by a former Go-Ahead Group managing director.

    https://busandtrainuser.com/2020/03/08/dublin-airports-bus-and-coach-competition-hots-up/


  • #251
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Aircoach still sets down at T2 but at an earlier spot so you have to walk a short distance to the entrance.


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