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Vegan Billboards from around the world.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    aaakev wrote: »
    No, they are all going to be allowed roam free amd fend for themselves so they will live good lives....

    Where?
    Current wild animals are under pressure from humans, now imagine what will happen if the millions of cattle, sheep, pigs horses etc. are added to the mix. Good lives me ar5e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    ganmo wrote: »
    Where?
    Current wild animals are under pressure from humans, now imagine what will happen if the millions of cattle, sheep, pigs horses etc. are added to the mix. Good lives me ar5e

    Yeah i was being sarcastic.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭Worztron


    469687.jpg

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    Worztron wrote: »
    469687.jpg

    The same picture was on the bus stop shelter down the rd from my house today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    The same picture was on the bus stop shelter down the rd from my house today.

    Same old tag lines being repeated then? I would have presumed the anti farming campaign would have came up with something new at this stage?

    Edit: meant to say that must be the UK then as the main ad agengy here responsible for transport billboards have refused to place such anti farming tag lines on buses and trains in Ireland. Despite Ms Higgins protestations about this - these sentiments on the billboards are her opinions and do not constitute 'information' in any shape or form imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    Can you explain how I saw one on a double decker bus in Galway today so? The bus was travelling towards Renmore.

    Photo please!
    I'll tell you the above is not Galway anyway!

    Maybe it was a veganbus special or a mirage?

    Press release from ms higgins
    For the third year running, Exterion Ireland, the only company that carry ads on bus and trains in Ireland, is refusing to run Go Vegan World ads

    Good stuff ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    gozunda wrote: »
    Photo please!
    I'll tell you the above is not Galway anyway!

    Maybe it was a veganbus special or a mirage?

    Press release from ms higgins


    Good stuff ...

    It’s was a go vegan world ad

    Don’t know what was on it. But I’d be willing to have a wager with you it was go vegan world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    It’s was a go vegan world adDon’t know what was on it. But I’d be willing to have a wager with you it was go vegan world.

    So you're saying ms higgins is telling porkies :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    gozunda wrote: »
    So you're saying ms higgins is telling porkies :eek:

    I’m just telling you a bus in Galway has a go vegan world ad on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    I just telling you a bus in Galway has a go vegan world ad on it.

    So put up a photo. As I said the official statement given was:
    For the third year running, Exterion Ireland, the only company that carry ads on bus and trains in Ireland, is refusing to run Go Vegan World ads

    Btw the adverts were originally refused because they were deemed ‘emotive and provocative’ and likely to draw complaints.

    You appear to doubt ms higgins statement for some reason? What part of the UK was the first photo in if you don't mind me asking?

    I don't know what to tell you otherwise!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    gozunda wrote: »
    So put up a photo. As I said the official statement given was:



    You appear to doubt that for some reason? What part of the UK was the first photo in if you don't mind me asking?

    I don't know what to tell you otherwise!

    I’d wager Bradford....seen as it’s actually written on the bus.

    I’ll do my very best to find it tomorrow as I’ll be on that side of town & in town again.

    I give you my word it was a govegan world advert. I was driving my car & was ****ed if I was going to chase after it to take a picture. It’s was black and had VEGANISM is caps on it.

    If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    I’d wager Bradford....seen as it’s actually written on the bus.I’ll do my very best to find it tomorrow as I’ll be on that side of town & in town again. I give you my word it was a govegan world advert. I was driving my car & was ****ed if I was going to chase after it to take a picture. It’s was black and had VEGANISM is caps on it.
    If I’m wrong I’ll hold my hands up.

    Do lol.

    I only asked as I know you take pictures of that kinda stuff so ...

    Btw I know the area and afaik that bus company covers Bradford, Halifax, Huddersfield and Leeds. No matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    gozunda wrote: »
    Do lol.

    I only asked as I know you take pictures of buses so ...

    Btw I know the area and afaik that bus company covers Bradford, Halifax, Huddersfield and Leeds ...

    & you can hold your hands up if I’m right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    & you can hold your hands up if I’m right

    I made no such suggestion lol. Your the one who doubted ms higgins statement - that's not my own opinion btw. There always the possibility could be a vegan with their own bus perhaps?

    Btw was the bus shelter you saw also in the UK :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    gozunda wrote: »
    I made no such suggestion lol. Your the one who doubted ms higgins statement - that's not my own opinion btw. There always the possibility could be a vegan with their own bus perhaps?

    Btw was the bus shelter you saw also in the UK :confused:

    Nope. Two of them were in an area where we live. I looked today and one was gone. Some sports lad on it now.

    It was a double decker bus eireann bus.

    I asked the Mrs there had she seen the bus with the vegan ad on it around at all....she said yes sure there’s two of them. She was talking about the bus shelters. I said no, I’m on about an actually bus.

    She said no, not seen a bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭jay48


    gozunda wrote: »
    I made no such suggestion lol. Your the one who doubted ms higgins statement - that's not my own opinion btw. There always the possibility could be a vegan with their own bus perhaps?

    Btw was the bus shelter you saw also in the UK :confused:
    A quick Google shows go vegan ads on a Dublin bus so there's no reason for them not to be on a bus Éireann bus in Galway. They were out on bus shelters too over the Christmas. They caused a bit of a stir a few years ago when they first came out but they seem to attract little attention now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    jay48 wrote: »
    A quick Google shows go vegan ads on a Dublin bus so there's no reason for them not to be on a bus Éireann bus in Galway. They were out on bus shelters too over the Christmas. They caused a bit of a stir a few years ago when they first came out but they seem to attract little attention now.

    That is not my opinion - I'll quote the press release from ms higgins of govegan world again dated December 28, 2018
    For the third year running, Exterion Ireland, the only company that carry ads on bus and trains in Ireland, is refusing to run Go Vegan World

    I checked the Google search - there are some images dating 2015 and previous ...

    'Bus shelters' were not mentioned in the press release ...

    Other than that like yourself- I don't have a clue what the story is ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    Stopped at a petrol station on a way into town. Lo & behold the first bus that passes me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    Stopped at a petrol station on a way into town. Lo & behold the first bus that passes me.

    Lo & behold is right. I wonder how the bus fits in mshiggens statement ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    gozunda wrote: »
    Lo & behold is right. I wonder how the bus fits in mshiggens statement ...

    The only person that seems to give a toss about her statement is you.

    I’m just delighted I was right.

    Good stuff!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    The only person that seems to give a toss about her statement is you.I’m just delighted I was right.Good stuff!!!

    ms higgins who runs the govegan movement promoting these very adverts :eek: or is it that her statement is exactly what it is or maybe is it that right lies somewhere twixt ms higgins and bus spotting? Who knows ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    gozunda wrote: »
    ms higgins who runs the govegan movement promoting these very adverts :eek: or is it that statement is exactly what it is or maybe is it that right lies somewhere twixt ms higgins and bus spotting? Who knows ....

    That sentence makes my brain hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    That sentence makes my brain hurt.

    No worries ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Dublin, this weekend:

    bHLMj0n.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Dublin, this weekend:..


    Tar where in Dublin do you know?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    O'Connell/Parnell St.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    On cork city buses as well, saw one in Douglas..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Here's the headline put out about the bus advert thing ...


    2smtjw.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    Saw another bus today with one on the way home from work. Thought they might just be running them for January.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    Another


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    Another
    Do vegans actually realise shearing sheep is a good thing and needs to be done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Look at this monster!

    Shearing done right, no harm to the sheep. This is how its done in Ireland. My mate had 130 sheep sheared last time, guess how much blood there was... ill give ya a hint, none.

    Why waist this wool? Its a great natural product and is one of the best insulators out there. The price the fsrmer gets goes towards the cost of shesring and keeping tge sheep healthy but letsnot let facts get in the way of the permanently outraged....

    https://youtu.be/s5kgWpbF6xQ

    https://youtu.be/XqvHLiuKvdo


  • Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭davidjtaylor


    Funny how, before humans came along, sheep must’ve suffered enormously. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Funny how, before humans came along, sheep must’ve suffered enormously. :rolleyes:

    So just let sheep now suffer because of what used to be a long time ago? Really? That's nice.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    You simply stop breeding the species that have been mutated into breeding excess wool. If there are sheep that are around and need to be helped, they can be, it doesn't give people carte blanche to breed millions of them and then say, oh well they NEED it, I'm just such a good Samaritan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    You simply stop breeding the species that have been mutated into breeding excess wool. If there are sheep that are around and need to be helped, they can be, it doesn't give people carte blanche to breed millions of them and then say, oh well they NEED it, I'm just such a good Samaritan.

    No - you do not simply stop the necessary shearing sheep or even exterminate a breed of animal because it does not sit nicely with the beliefs of a minority. Sheep are a breed of animal which provides a souce of clothing, milk and yes even meat to many indiginous peoples around the world. Sheep are also responsible for helping maintaining upland habitats and benefit lots of other wildlife. And yes they are part of farming and at the present time, sheep farming appears to be doing well.

    I note you advocate 'helping' sheep by shearing in some future scenario but for some reason deny the same welfare in the present when used by those who care for sheep. As for musing on 'mutations'- a little research is a good thing.
    (Even) Primitive sheep can be shorn, but many can have their wool plucked out by hand in a process called "rooing". Rooing helps to leave behind the coarse fibers called kemps which are still longer than the soft fleece. The fleece may also be collected from the field after it falls out naturally. This rooing trait survives today in unrefined breeds such as the Soay and many Shetlands. Indeed, the Soay, along with other Northern European breeds with short tails, naturally rooing fleece, diminutive size, and horns in both sexes, are closely related to ancient sheep

    It remains that modern breeds of sheep need to be shorn - even where that fleece does not have a market. Theres no 'samaritan' about it . Or maybe the future with modern genetics is one of naked sheep with nylon and fleece overcoats? Would that be acceptable if the 'excess wool' is not needed and is being campaigned against by a small number of interests?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    You simply stop breeding the species that have been mutated into breeding excess wool. If there are sheep that are around and need to be helped, they can be, it doesn't give people carte blanche to breed millions of them and then say, oh well they NEED it, I'm just such a good Samaritan.

    so let dogs and cats out in the elements where they evolved to be


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Complete non sequitur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Complete non sequitur.

    I believe it makes a point.

    It remains that ad campaign is to bully people into believing not buying wool will help sheep.

    Maybe even attempting to "pull the wool over their eyes' as you will ;)

    When the fact is sheep that have to be shorn whether or not their wool is sold or goes into production as clothing or otherwise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    The ‘milk comes from a grieving mother’
    Apart from milk and meat, what use are cows and cattle?

    How much greenhouse gases would be eliminated without them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭davidjtaylor


    or
    the_syco wrote: »
    Apart from milk and meat, what use are humans?

    How much greenhouse gases would be eliminated without them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Complete non sequitur.

    In what way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    or

    "Apart from milk and meat, what use are humans?

    How much greenhouse gases would be eliminated without them?"

    So following that logic and as in the case of farm and other domestic animals (which it had been suggested should all be got rid of thru 'not breeding them') - humans therefore should stop breeding as they are also unnatural and of no use?


    Well that's that sorted then. Nobody needs to turn vegan at all - we'll just get rid of the main problem - humans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    or
    So your solution to make everyone go vegan is by killing off the vegans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Funny how, before humans came along, sheep must’ve suffered enormously. :rolleyes:

    Typical, no real response because you know im right. We dont live back then, we live now and like it or not sheep NEED to be sheared. Do you disagree?


  • Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭davidjtaylor


    aaakev wrote: »
    Typical, no real response because you know im right. We dont live back then, we live now and like it or not sheep NEED to be sheared. Do you disagree?

    See TA’s answer above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭davidjtaylor


    the_syco wrote: »
    So your solution to make everyone go vegan is by killing off the vegans?

    You were stating that a species has a ‘use’. None do, it’s an common error. There’s symbiosis, but that’s slightly different.

    I was obliquely pointing out that no species has a ‘use’ in the context you imply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    aaakev wrote: »
    Typical, no real response because you know im right. We dont live back then, we live now and like it or not sheep NEED to be sheared. Do you disagree?

    See TA’s answer above.
    Not an option, we use them so have a duty to look after them which involves shearing. Should we stop breading dogs that need haircuts too??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭davidjtaylor


    aaakev wrote: »
    Not an option, we use them so have a duty to look after them which involves shearing. Should we stop breading dogs that need haircuts too??

    Of course TA's answer is an option! Read it again and understand what it says:
    You simply stop breeding the species that have been mutated into breeding excess wool. If there are sheep that are around and need to be helped, they can be, it doesn't give people carte blanche to breed millions of them and then say, oh well they NEED it, I'm just such a good Samaritan.

    And to your second question, yes.

    You're on a veg*n forum. The prevailing preference amongst vegans is spelled out in TA's response. Reply to that, rather than my sarky answers - TA has far more patience than I.


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