Christmas Millionaire Raffle 2016

Amazingfun · 19-11-2017 9:01pm

Danica Odd Sage wrote: »

Looking like a good year for the condo retirees over in Ontario etc,
Think tickets are 25yoyos this year. I won't be contributing.
If it's 36%, that's a load of toilet

Did anyone actually win last year? From memory very few from this thread.

Nope, not one of us or our families and friends won anything (on this thread anyhow).

It would be brilliant if there was a boycott of this by everyone in Ireland this year, might shake some sense into them.
A draw that's meant to bring good cheer-as many are purchased as gifts-has really become a straight up hustle/con.
A real pity!

4068ac1elhodqr · 19-11-2017 9:16pm

Amazingfun wrote: »

Nope, not one of us or our families and friends won anything (on this thread anyhow).

It would be brilliant if there was a boycott of this by everyone in Ireland this year, might shake some sense into them.
A draw that's meant to bring good cheer-as many are purchased as gifts-has really become a straight up hustle/con.
A real pity!

Same, someone gave me one last year (one of x10 bulk purchase), didn't hear of anyone getting anything, anywhere.

Numerically the chances of winning are slightly better this year at 1.011%, the year before was 0.6352%. But that 159% increase is slightly offset by 125% entry price increase.

The fact that one of the very big jackpot prizes was unclaimed or lost for a while last year arises some suspicion, (someone just misplaced a big golden type shinny envelope?).

The prizepool is slightly less than 36% (at 35.52%). Now if that 64.48% of €12,500,000 receipts was going directly to building UN disaster style homeless shelters and soup kitchens in the parks and towns of our local cities, might've considered a go.

jacool · 27-11-2017 2:49pm

I can't understand why they threw an extra million into last Friday's Euromillions jackpot, when everyone was going to be playing for some €70 million anyway. They could have put that into the Christmas draw and drawn punters in for that one. From here, looks like loads, me included, will not be participating this year.

the whole year inn · 04-12-2017 11:19pm

jacool wrote: »

I can't understand why they threw an extra million into last Friday's Euromillions jackpot, when everyone was going to be playing for some €70 million anyway. They could have put that into the Christmas draw and drawn punters in for that one. From here, looks like loads, me included, will not be participating this year.

What happend to the unclaimed winnings? Was there any update?

Amazingfun · 05-12-2017 12:06am

They keep it. Aaaaaand looks like more on the way!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/national-lottery-appeal-for-winner-to-claim-large-jackpot-before-it-expires-on-christmas-day-36379294.html

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-12-2017 12:12am

That'll be some Christmas party, order in the Cristal for late delivery on close of business on the 24th.

Did any one ever claim the 1m golden raffle ticket last year? Reports were it was sold in Cork and tabloids said there was 'just hours left' to claim back in '16...

Amazingfun · 05-12-2017 12:16am

No, they kept it .

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-12-2017 12:56am

All very very peculiar indeed.

fin12 · 05-12-2017 1:14am

So u think these prizes that go left unclaimed are just fake? It just seems to me like people are winning everyday, if it’s not the big ones, it’s scratch cards as wells.

I play online as well, won 20 euro on a scratch card online but that was after about playing the game over 10times.

Permabear · 22-12-2017 3:00pm

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Rushden · 22-12-2017 3:08pm

Permabear wrote: »

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4900 x 500 = 2,450,000 not 245000

Permabear · 22-12-2017 3:13pm

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PieOhMy · 23-12-2017 9:00pm

Can anybody tell me are the numbers of the ticket are sequential or random?

Could you tell from one gotten today that that number is how manh have been sold up to that point?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-12-2017 9:10pm

PieOhMy wrote: »

Can anybody tell me are the numbers of the ticket are sequential or random?

Could you tell from one gotten today that that number is how manh have been sold up to that point?

From memory they should be fairly sequential, what 'ballpark figure' did you get? (Don't' give out the exact full number, obviously).

They should be over 400,000k sold by now (if they're selling well, since Nov 1st).

With draw in about 1wks time (31 Dec). That date may close if the pool has been fully acquired by then.

PieOhMy · 23-12-2017 9:42pm

Danica Odd Sage wrote: »

From memory they should be fairly sequential, what 'ballpark figure' did you get? (Don't' give out the exact full number, obviously).

They should be over 400,000k sold by now (if they're selling well, since Nov 1st).

With draw in about 1wks time (31 Dec). That date may close if the pool has been fully acquired by then.

During the week I got one between 110,000 and 120,000. The signs have only been up at the tills in shops in the last week or 2.

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-12-2017 9:47pm

PieOhMy wrote: »

During the week I got one between 110,000 and 120,000. The signs have only been up at the tills in shops in the last week or 2.

Fook, that sounds really low, think if they don't sell all 500,000 of them - the prizefund is reduced accordingly, not sure how that's done, a bit of the aul poking at the abacus and what have ye'.

Technically it's a NYE raffle, not a Christmas raffle, t-8days.

Dr Turk Turkelton · 23-12-2017 9:52pm

PieOhMy wrote: »

During the week I got one between 110,000 and 120,000. The signs have only been up at the tills in shops in the last week or 2.

I got one yesterday and it was still in the 120,000's.

Amazingfun · 24-12-2017 2:00am

Ha, I'd love to think this wee thread had something to do with the slow sales, but alas, I expect there to be a mad dash to the finish after Christmas .

I am curious though about them possibly messing with the prizes should they not sell out? How would they manage that?

server down · 24-12-2017 2:09am

PieOhMy wrote: »

During the week I got one between 110,000 and 120,000. The signs have only been up at the tills in shops in the last week or 2.

Interesting.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-12-2017 2:14am

Amazingfun wrote: »

Ha, I'd love to think this wee thread had something to do with the slow sales, but alas, I expect there to be a mad dash to the finish after Christmas .

I am curious though about them possibly messing with the prizes should they not sell out? How would they manage that?

Lol, yes this wee thread is useful for anyone making a decision with their hard earned notes. Only 16 prizes above 10k, most of the 5,056/500,000 tickets well below that. Thus realistic 1.1076 % chance of any prize...

36% (circa) is the available prize pool, some charity yes, but most of the percentage seems to for their operational type running costs and/or own fund pool.

Rule 4.(c) : Suggests that the draw date may be 'extended' if it's not sold out. ...Easter Raffle?

Amazingfun · 24-12-2017 2:18am

4.(c): Suggest that the draw date may be 'extended' if it's not sold out.
Easter Raffle?

The sneaky basturdz!

Hope this news makes the rounds before anyone else starts feelin lucky.
Good work Accumulator, take a bow

PieOhMy · 24-12-2017 2:53am

Good spot, wouldnt look great for the draw if one year the top prize isnt clamied and the next year the draw is pushed back!

Danica Odd Sage wrote: »

Lol, yes this wee thread is useful for anyone making a decision with their hard earned notes. Only 16 prizes above 10k, most of the 5,056/500,000 tickets well below that. Thus realistic 1.1076 % chance of any prize...

36% (circa) is the available prize pool, some charity yes, but most of the percentage seems to for their operational type running costs and/or own fund pool.

Rule 4.(c) : Suggests that the draw date may be 'extended' if it's not sold out. ...Easter Raffle?

server down · 24-12-2017 1:02pm

PieOhMy wrote: »

Good spot, wouldnt look great for the draw if one year the top prize isnt clamied and the next year the draw is pushed back!

I think it would kill the next years raffle alright.

allthedoyles · 24-12-2017 4:34pm

I bought one today and the number is more than 200,000 and less than 250,000

Collie D · 24-12-2017 5:57pm

allthedoyles wrote: »

I bought one today and the number is more than 200,000 and less than 250,000

Bought some on Monday and numbers were in the 90k bracket and another on Thursday which was 120k so 30k in three days followed by a spike of about 100k in the next three days.

Would still imagine their peak sales period is the pre-Xmas so less than half sold on Christmas Eve must be disappointing. Expect a big sales push next week.

And agreed, an unclaimed winner in 2016 followed by a pushed back draw or reduction in prizes would not be good PR especially with the increase in tickets and cost.

Edited to add: I went back to first page of thread and see I posted that I bought tickets numbered in the 260k range on the 23rd last year so although sales are down on that they may still make it if they push the advertising.

Amazingfun · 26-12-2017 1:14am

:pac: I got one for Christmas

jacksie66 · 26-12-2017 5:23pm

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Dr Turk Turkelton · 26-12-2017 6:28pm

jacksie66 wrote: »

Picked one up today. At 260,000.

Yeah got one an hour ago in the 260's as well.

Collie D · 26-12-2017 8:06pm

So based on last few posts they've sold somewhere between 10-60k in two days.

At same mark three days earlier last year. Anyone know when they sold out in 2016?

40k per day needed. I wonder what the cut off point is? If they only sell 400k that's still €5.6m profit (ignoring charity, commision and overheads). That's still 40% more profit than when they limited the number of tickets to 350k at €20 a pop so should be no excuse for pushing the draw back.

Guffy · 26-12-2017 9:40pm

Are they allowed to push the draw date back? I mean people bought tickets with the expectation of a new years draw.

4068ac1elhodqr · 26-12-2017 10:00pm

Guffy wrote: »

Are they allowed to push the draw date back? I mean people bought tickets with the expectation of a new years draw.

Apart from giving their marketing dept a major headache, and setting twatter in to fire-control mode, that push-back may remain a possibility - See Rule 4.(c).

The folks over at the Liveline recently ran a story on this, (see RTE podcast). Thinks Joe's general conclusion was that for next year to is i) Reduce price back to 20, or advertise the increased price more efficiently ii) As it's Christmas, increase the amount given up to 50% for charity iii) And the other 50% to the punters, and let the Ontario pension fundsters take a hit for once.

There was plenty of stories of aul wans going into shops with 100notes to get a handful of tickets, upon hearing of the price would now be 125, most turned around and walked out. That's a sales margin of -100 they otherwise may have got.

But at the end of the day, guess even those properly informed of the actual numerals and percentiles are still free to splash their cash.

mockingjay · 28-12-2017 11:39pm

Bought one yesterday afternoon (despite saying I wouldn't because the price went up!) - got in around 267 mark.... seems to be well down this year.

PieOhMy · 29-12-2017 12:47am

Even with accounting for a big last day or 2 I think its unlikely theyl sell close to 50% of the total amount in the last few days seeing how its gone so far.

I guess they need to weigh up the costs of going ahead with the draw / lowering the prize pool(?) or else holding off for a later date and the bad press that would come with this. Anything but going ahead with the draw as described would surely cripple any future draws in the publics mind.

Amazingfun · 29-12-2017 12:52am

I don't know, it always somehow manages to sell out by the time the finish rolls around......we'll see! I'll be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't, even though I now have a ticket myself thanks to my family's Christmas gifting, grrr . They had a right laugh when I told them about this thread :P

michellie · 29-12-2017 11:34pm

I got 2 today in the 294,000s. Bought both at the same time and there was 12 numbers in the difference of the two ticket numbers

4068ac1elhodqr · 30-12-2017 12:04am

1day and 23hrs left, can't see it selling out.

SuperSean11 · 30-12-2017 12:06am

It selling out is the real lottery, wonder if you can get odds on it

4068ac1elhodqr · 30-12-2017 12:18am

SuperSean11 wrote: »

It selling out is the real lottery, wonder if you can get odds on it

Only various state weeklies and the euromill' main draws.

The Canadian pension fundsters in Ontario will have to wait a while longer to pop their corks.

They'll have to announce to media before long if it's going ahead with reduced returns (62% if 300k tickets). Or if it's begin delayed until e.g. Easter.

PieOhMy · 30-12-2017 1:22am

Maybe tonights euromillions win will inspire a few more sales with people trying to escape a return to post christmas normality next week!

taylor3 · 30-12-2017 1:35am

Found €50 yesterday in my local shop. Treated myself to one of these raffle tickets with it. Pure sweet if I get a win.

mad m · 30-12-2017 1:36am

taylor3 wrote: »

Found €50 yesterday in my local shop. Treated myself to one of these raffle tickets with it. Pure sweet if I get a win.

I wish you all the best.

taylor3 · 30-12-2017 1:42am

mad m wrote: »

I wish you all the best.

Cheers, imagine winning something substantial on a ticket bought with a few quid you found. Happy days eh. Mad to think last year's winner never came forward. And then the National Lottery Jack up the price from €20 to €25.

PieOhMy · 30-12-2017 1:44am

taylor3 wrote: »

Cheers, imagine winning something substantial on a ticket bought with a few quid you found. Happy days eh. Mad to think last year's winner never came forward. And then the National Lottery Jack up the price from €20 to €25.

Out of curiosity can you give us a ballpark figure for what number the tickets are at as of today?

taylor3 · 30-12-2017 1:46am

PieOhMy wrote: »

Out of curiosity can you give us a ballpark figure for what number the tickets are at as of today?

Just checked it there it's 274

4068ac1elhodqr · 30-12-2017 3:16am

taylor3 wrote: »

Found €50 yesterday in my local shop. Treated myself to one of these raffle tickets with it. Pure sweet if I get a win.

Did you not inquire as to the rightful owner of the said lost £50?

Sure last week there was a poor chap who minded someones lost purse and as a reward the public crowdfunded him to the tune of about 10k. And a pub in London found someones wage packet and started a social media campaign to locate the polish builder (who went back home over xmas), made world news.

If one was going to invest 50notes, can think of better places to contribute/invest, than in than a prizepool of 36%c of gross funds, with 1%c chance of winning anything, in a draw that may not take place on schedule...

Amazingfun · 30-12-2017 4:41am

PieOhMy wrote: »

Maybe tonights euromillions win will inspire a few more sales with people trying to escape a return to post christmas normality next week!

Without a doubt

PieOhMy · 30-12-2017 3:42pm

Over 300 now

4068ac1elhodqr · 30-12-2017 4:07pm

PieOhMy wrote: »

Over 300 now

Just another 190,000 (or so) needing to be sold within 1 day and 6hrs and 52mins (pending shop opening hours).

Urindanger · 30-12-2017 6:55pm

Got one of these as a Christmas present and just bought another. Well into the 310,000s.

Red Silurian · 30-12-2017 7:50pm

PieOhMy wrote: »

Maybe tonights euromillions win will inspire a few more sales with people trying to escape a return to post christmas normality next week!

I wonder was there an Irish Euromillions winner or was it made up to boost the sales of millionaire raffle???

All they'd have to claim is that a glitch in the systems caused an incorrect location on the winner!

Worth thinking about?

Also, up to the 318,000-319,000 mark about half an hour ago (bought online if that makes a difference, I don't think it does)

Christmas Millionaire Raffle 2016

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