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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

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    #6782
    Interested Observer
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    Clegg wrote: »
    Furlong and Leavy's availability for the Saracens game is still 'uncertain'. No chance Furlong makes it now. Either makes it back in time now.

    McFadden is fully fit, back training and available for selection. But I think we're probably sticking with Keenan now.

    Dan Sheahan has a cheekbone injury and is out for 6 weeks. Think he would've gotten a run out in the league.

    https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1305476695101788160?s=19

    There's no case for McFadden really.


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    #6783
    arsebiscuits1
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    Interested Observer wrote: »
    There's no case for McFadden really.

    It would be a big game to come back in cold.

    We had ROL on the bench at the weekend. Ferg would cover 14 better than him.

    I don't necessarily think Ferg should march straight back into the match day squad but we could do a lot worse than a big hitting strong carrying generally reliable player like him.

    Can cover a lot of positions and can kick at goal too.


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    #6784
    Buer
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    Honestly can't call between Josh and Will. Was Will given such little time at the weekend to rest ahead of this game? Or was Josh given so much to make sure he's prepared as much as possible?

    The former, I think. VDF was only given a few minutes against Munster in a similar approach before starting against Ulster.

    Whilst I thought VDF was very good, I didn't think he was MOTM at the weekend. He was busy and put huge pressure on the opposition but I thought the pack generally were brilliant and both Conan and Doris were as good as him, if not better. Conan dirtied his bib with 3 penalties though. You could see Toland lining up VDF as MOTM from a long way out. Openside picks openside.


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    #6785
    arsebiscuits1
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    Buer wrote: »
    The former, I think. VDF was only given a few minutes against Munster in a similar approach before starting against Ulster.

    Whilst I thought VDF was very good, I didn't think he was MOTM at the weekend. He was busy and put huge pressure on the opposition but I thought the pack generally were brilliant and both Conan and Doris were as good as him, if not better. Conan dirtied his bib with 3 penalties though. You could see Toland lining up VDF as MOTM from a long way out. Openside picks openside.

    I'd have had Doris at Motm myself. Or Henshaw.

    I do feel Toland was just stroking the flames on a bit of a media narrative in fairness.


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    #6786
    Buer
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    The line out is a massive concern but I'd still be slow to drop Kelleher. I'd rather we work double time on the set piece this week and try to ensure we have a solid performance there. Kelleher brings a lot outside the set piece. He's actually very similar to his opposite number this coming weekend. He has a brilliant engine and comes up with some big moments in defence. I rewatched the game and the 2 or 3 occasions when Ulster were camped in our 22 in the first half saw Kelleher coming off the line like a train and driving men back in the tackle on a few different occasions.

    The throwing is a massive concern though. He could either go on to be the next Jamie George or the next Bernard Jackman depending on whether he sorts it out.


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    #6787
    Squidgy Black
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    Buer wrote: »
    The line out is a massive concern but I'd still be slow to drop Kelleher. I'd rather we work double time on the set piece this week and try to ensure we have a solid performance there. Kelleher brings a lot outside the set piece. He's actually very similar to his opposite number this coming weekend. He has a brilliant engine and comes up with some big moments in defence. I rewatched the game and the 2 or 3 occasions when Ulster were camped in our 22 in the first half saw Kelleher coming off the line like a train and driving men back in the tackle on a few different occasions.

    The throwing is a massive concern though. He could either go on to be the next Jamie George or the next Bernard Jackman depending on whether he sorts it out.

    I don't think he has an inherent problem with his throwing, he was fairly on the money before his injury back in December and then for his short return in the 6N it wasn't too bad either.

    The first game vs Munster that was partially down to the fact we had Baird and Fardy as the 2 locks, and neither really had experience in called the lineout. However last week with Ryan and Toner back in the fold it really should have improved.

    Would just be a massive concern that we'll lose a lot of momentum if we're losing our own ball at the lineout, Sarries won't give us the same outs that Ulster did by turning over possession so easily afterwards.


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    #6788
    thomond2006
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    It appears Simon Zebo may not be renewed by Racing 92.

    Leinster should sign him.


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    #6789
    Squidgy Black
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    It appears Simon Zebo may not be renewed by Racing 92.

    Leinster should sign him.

    Nah I think Bryan Byrne has shown now that he's a decent replacement for Healy when he retires so we've no real use for another prop.


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    #6790
    arsebiscuits1
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Nah I think Bryan Byrne has shown now that he's a decent replacement for Healy when he retires so we've no real use for another prop.

    Ha. You picked the wrong Byrne - how embarrassing.

    I think you mean Adam


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    #6791
    Rigor Mortis
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    It appears Simon Zebo may not be renewed by Racing 92.

    Leinster should sign him.

    He could do a job in the Championship with Ealing.


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    #6792
    KH25
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    It appears Simon Zebo may not be renewed by Racing 92.

    Leinster should sign him.

    I do think Leinster should be looking at a back 3 player with Rob and Ferg leaving...


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    #6793
    Sheep Shagger
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    It appears Simon Zebo may not be renewed by Racing 92.

    Leinster should sign him.

    Lol


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    #6794
    [Deleted User]
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    Does anyone think Zebo's comments / attitude towards Schmidt could impact his chances of joining a province?


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    #6795
    The Lost Sheep
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Does anyone think Zebo's comments / attitude towards Schmidt could impact his chances of joining a province?
    Not really the thread but zero chance of affecting him joining a province. IMO Zebo will be in France for rest of his career anyway


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    #6796
    salmocab
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    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    He could do a job in the Championship with Ealing.

    The trail mix finders?


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    #6797
    Buer
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Does anyone think Zebo's comments / attitude towards Schmidt could impact his chances of joining a province?

    I think him being 31, clearly past his best and probably looking for a pretty significant salary would impact his chances more.

    I think Munster is the only place that he'd go to and also the only province that would look at him but they probably don't need him with Gallagher, Nash and Daly having bolstered their back three options alongside Earls, Sweetnam, Conway and Haley.

    If Racing pass on him, I could see another French club as a likely landing spot. I could see him ending up somewhere like Pau and his career winding down.


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    #6798
    Buer
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    McCall has stated he expects Mako Vunipola and Wigglesworth both to be available this weekend.

    Regardless of absentees, this is going to be the biggest challenge and best team that Leinster have faced this season.


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    #6799
    molloyjh
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    Buer wrote: »
    McCall has stated he expects Mako Vunipola and Wigglesworth both to be available this weekend.

    Regardless of absentees, this is going to be the biggest challenge and best team that Leinster have faced this season.

    How match fit are they likely to be having only 1 game in over 6 months though?


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    #6800
    kmart6
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    How match fit are they likely to be having only 1 game in over 6 months though?
    How match fit was James Ryan at the weekend?


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    #6801
    Buer
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    How match fit are they likely to be having only 1 game in over 6 months though?

    As fit as James Ryan.


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    #6802
    thomond2006
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    Leinster will win comfortably. Ye can stop the cute hoor routine.


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    #6803
    arsebiscuits1
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Does anyone think Zebo's comments / attitude towards Schmidt could impact his chances of joining a province?

    No but his comments about Leinster definitely impact his chances of joining this one ha


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    #6804
    thomond2006
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    Buer wrote: »
    I think him being 31, clearly past his best and probably looking for a pretty significant salary would impact his chances more.

    I think Munster is the only place that he'd go to and also the only province that would look at him but they probably don't need him with Gallagher, Nash and Daly having bolstered their back three options alongside Earls, Sweetnam, Conway and Haley.

    If Racing pass on him, I could see another French club as a likely landing spot. I could see him ending up somewhere like Pau and his career winding down.

    Munster have a lot of back three players out of contract so they could make room for SZ. I don't think it will happen.

    What will happen is #ZeboInBlue.


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    #6805
    arsebiscuits1
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Munster have a lot of back three players out of contract so they could make room for SZ. I don't think it will happen.

    What will happen is #ZeboInBlue.

    Haha that would be PR suicide for Leinster.


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    #6806
    [Deleted User]
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    No but his comments about Leinster definitely impact his chances of joining this one ha

    What did he say?


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    #6807
    Clegg
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    Zebo wasn't good enough for Leinster in 2017. He certainly won't be good enough three years and three stone later.


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    #6808
    Zzippy
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    Clegg wrote: »
    Zebo wasn't good enough for Leinster in 2017. He certainly won't be good enough three years and three stone later.

    Harsh. You try living in Paris, eating French cuisine with the cheese, and the wine, and the cheese, and keep your ideal weight. C'est pas facile!


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    #6809
    arsebiscuits1
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    What did he say?

    Can't find the exact quotes. Think it was an interview with the42

    Basically describing his out and out hatred for Leinster and saying you could offer him a million a year he still wouldn't play for Leinster

    EDIT: found it https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=766232733734322&_rdr


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    #6810
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,754 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    Can't find the exact quotes. Think it was an interview with Donal Lenihan.

    Basically describing his out and out hatred for Leinster and saying you could offer him a million a year he still wouldn't play for Leinster

    It's part of the intro theme of the Rugby Weekly podcast.


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    #6811
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Clegg wrote: »
    It's part of the intro theme of the Rugby Weekly podcast.

    Yeah found the quote. Knew it sounded familiar.


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