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€20 Scratch cards - a step too far ?

  • 15-06-2014 6:55pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7


    The national lottery have launched an new scratch card that costs €20, I think this is a step too far. people with very little means will go without food as a result of this gimmick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    The national lottery have launched an new scratch card that costs €20, I think this is a step too far. people with very little means will go without food as a result of this gimmick.

    I'd say if they're buying these and going hungry as a result, they probably deserve it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Harsh to say but it is a tax on stupidity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Are they the ones students try to sell you on the street?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭The_Pretender


    Yeah and alcohol should be banned because of alcoholics, and sex should be banned because of sex addicts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Work with someone, who has a degree so presumably not totally stupid, but she thought buying scratch cards was going to be an excellent way to save money because out of the 3 she bought, she was a euro up. I failed to get through to her the odds printed on the back of the cards meant her plan was a sack of sh*t.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Wasn't there a €20 a ticket for the the for some draw at easter. Only 500 tickets sold or something.

    Pretty sure same thing for new years too.

    For a chance to win a million.

    What's that game called?

    Bought a ticket once, never won anything, what a waste. I was sure I was going to win it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    I'd say if they're buying these and going hungry as a result, they probably deserve it.

    I couldn't agree more if I tried


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Shut up and take my money! Sweet titty christ, I can smell the winnings already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Since I don't buy scratch card this won't have much impact on my life :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭CrinkElite


    I agree with the OP, I think it's very cynical.
    They've no problem with curbing your smoking/drinking/recreational drug use, but the gambling shower are allowed to exploit all around them.

    It stinks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Whats the difference between a 20 euro scratchcard and allowing people to buy 20 1 euro scratchcards?

    Also, you can get noodles in Tesco for 20c, so no-one is going to go hungry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Going to sell online shortly I believe,more of a concern than a twenty Euro ticket.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭CrinkElite


    syklops wrote: »
    Whats the difference between a 20 euro scratchcard and allowing people to buy 20 1 euro scratchcards?

    Also, you can get noodles in Tesco for 20c, so no-one is going to go hungry.

    It just means that the poor idiots who'd have spent ten euro normally will be encouraged to spend the €20.

    The government should have put the foot down on this **** years ago.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    there's already a 20e draw every year, if somebody has no control and will buy a ticket instead of food they would just waste the money elsewhere anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭dmc17


    If it costs €20 then I'll surely win. You'd be foolish not to buy one :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    The national lottery have launched an new scratch card that costs €20, I think this is a step too far. people with very little means will go without food as a result of this gimmick.

    Will they not buy food with the winnings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Will they not buy food with the winnings?

    Of course not. They'll buy beer to celebrate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    CrinkElite wrote: »
    It just means that the poor idiots who'd have spent ten euro normally will be encouraged to spend the €20.

    The government should have put the foot down on this **** years ago.

    No because that's more nanny-ing. It up to people if they want to spend money on this.
    I think you're way over exaggerating to say people won't be able to afford food now. Most people buying this will be using money they have after paying bills and buying food. The people who can barely afford food will not.
    If someone is such a gambling addict that they are spending all of their food and bills money, i think they would be spending that money on other means of gambling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    I've spent hundreds on scratch cards, then again I only do it when I have eh cash spare and wouldn't do it over getting petrol or food etc. it can be an addiction for some, yeah, but that doesn't mean you ban the cards themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,862 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    To be honest, a euro is too much for a scratchcard...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Yeah and alcohol should be banned because of alcoholics, and sex should be banned because of sex addicts.

    What positivity is there to scratch cards???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    efb wrote: »
    What positivity is there to scratch cards???

    It supports worthy causes in your community.


  • Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Mocha Joe


    Oullads spend 20 quid on 4 pints in the pub. Oulwans spend 20 quid on a scratch card. Both get a lil buzz off it in their horrible mundane lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    there's already a 20e draw every year, if somebody has no control and will buy a ticket instead of food they would just waste the money elsewhere anyway.

    Its now twice a year Easter and New Years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭john the one


    Mocha Joe wrote: »
    Oullads spend 20 quid on 4 pints in the pub. Oulwans spend 20 quid on a scratch card. Both get a lil buzz off it in their horrible mundane lives.

    What an ass hole comment to make


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    efb wrote: »
    What positivity is there to scratch cards???

    It could be argued that some people get the same enjoyment out of them as those that enjoy alcohol. Or sex for that matter.

    Plus they support the national lottery, who supports nearly everything


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    efb wrote: »
    What positivity is there to scratch cards???

    They can fight racism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 entangled


    Sure anyone can walk in to a bookies and put €20 on a horse.

    I imagine these scratch cards will be largely bought as gifts to stick in a card anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Why not scratch this :) and talk about what people have won on them. Bought a 5 euro scratch one time because got a lucky feeling, won 35 euro on it. Got a euro scratch card as part of a present, won 25 euro. Beat those beans!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    I wouldn't scratch my arse for EUR 20.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Wasn't there a €20 a ticket for the the for some draw at easter. Only 500 tickets sold or something.

    Pretty sure same thing for new years too.

    For a chance to win a million.

    What's that game called?

    Bought a ticket once, never won anything, what a waste. I was sure I was going to win it.

    Well, 20€ x 500 = €10,000

    If the prize is €1000,000, em, I'll buy all 500tickets.


    Yoink :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Wasn't there a €20 a ticket for the the for some draw at easter. Only 500 tickets sold or something.

    Pretty sure same thing for new years too.

    For a chance to win a million.

    What's that game called?

    Bought a ticket once, never won anything, what a waste. I was sure I was going to win it.

    Millionares draw. Think its 50,000 tickets sold ( or maybe even 500,000 :/ )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Well, 20€ x 500 = €10,000

    If the prize is €1000,000, em, I'll buy all 500tickets.


    Yoink :)

    You literally can't lose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭Tardful Slakerly II


    Work with someone, who has a degree

    A broad statement, you think the kind of degree might matter? Philosophy, Law, Engineering, Microbiology, Mathematics.. some kind of media course..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    kneemos wrote: »
    It supports worthy causes in your community.

    I have to say i have major issues with this along with other national lottery gimics,i don't mind anyone selling any type of scratch cards for 20 50 or whatever but national lottery implies government and this is where it bothers me.
    As the above person states it supports worthy causes in your community,this is true to the extent that 33% of its profits do the other 66% goes in the back pocket of the owners of it.
    The national lottery is profit driven it is not driven to make money for good causes,i have no problem in a lottery being driven by profits but it shouldn't be called the national lottery when it has very little to do with the government of this state anymore.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Millionares draw. Think its 50,000 tickets sold ( or maybe even 500,000 :/ )

    Pretty sure it was 180,000 tickets sold.

    I bought two (40 euros)....and I won.........

    Nothing!:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    They should at least be required to print "EXPECTED PAYOUT 50%. If you gamble €100 on the Lottery your average winnings will be €50." - like betting machines


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    goose2005 wrote: »
    They should at least be required to print "EXPECTED PAYOUT 50%. If you gamble €100 on the Lottery your average winnings will be €50." - like betting machines

    All Lotto scratch cards have the odds written on the back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Pretty sure it was 180,000 tickets sold.

    I bought two (40 euros)....and I won.........

    Nothing!:mad:

    A maximum of 180,000 were available, around 158,000 were sold. The last winning number was actually 158000. 579 tickets won prizes from €1 million to €250. They probably think it was great, a lot of the 157,000 odd losers probably think it was a fix.

    http://www.lotterynews.info/news/2014-easter-irish-millionaire-raffle-results-21573

    I think the Christmas Millionaire draw sold all 180,000 tickets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭That_Girl_ Is_ A_Cowboy


    I very rarely buy scratch cards. Once in a while I might get an urge to buy a scratch card. The most I ever won was 25 euro.

    I know a girl who bought a scratch card and won a few thousands.

    Last year I got one of my urges and I was at the counter and there in the ticket roll machine was a 10 euro scratch card. Thinking of the girl who thousands I asked for the 10 euro scratch card in the hope of getting a surprise was underneath the scratch surface and thinking I might have more of a chance winning something nice even if it was a 50. I was disappointed and shameful too in case family saw the card and the price on it.

    Did anybody ever win anything on the 10 euro scratch cards.

    I'll be keeping well away from the 20 euro cards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Scratchcards are good earner if you know how to play them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    kneemos wrote: »
    It supports worthy causes in your community.

    wasn't there some scandal last year about how only a tiny tiny % of total sales ever went to charity, the rest was used by the lotto company on costs to produce and expenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Dangel4x4


    Our Year wrote: »
    Scratchcards are good earner if you know how to play them.

    How's that? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Dangel4x4 wrote: »
    How's that? :confused:

    Don't buy them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    wasn't there some scandal last year about how only a tiny tiny % of total sales ever went to charity, the rest was used by the lotto company on costs to produce and expenses.

    That was REHAB though ?
    Rehab lottery scratch card sales of almost €4m in 2010 yielded profits of only €9,452, according to Minister for Justice Alan Shatter.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shatter-rehab-scratch-card-sales-of-4m-in-2010-yielded-9452-in-profits-29938027.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Dangel4x4 wrote: »
    How's that? :confused:

    Well if I told you that then everyone would be doing it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    That's crazy but then again they're not forcing ye to buy them!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Our Year wrote: »
    Well if I told you that then everyone would be doing it.


    :P shhhhh, we'll keep it just between us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I'm a fiend for the Hanly Centre ones


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Mocha Joe wrote: »
    Oullads spend 20 quid on 4 pints in the pub. Oulwans spend 20 quid on a scratch card. Both get a lil buzz off it in their horrible mundane lives.

    Wow, let's hope you never make it to pension age. You'd clearly be unhappy in your retirement


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