Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

Dodge · 20-09-2020 11:27am

bigsuge1 wrote: »

Always wondered how the washing would work on a large scale like construction and others. So DK hands his dad say 10m of hard drug cash, then what? I think of it like the construction company now has a big pile of money that they then can’t bank due not being able to prove where it came from. Even if they used it to buy things they cant just hand over say 250k cash to another company for machinery for example because then that company has the same issue. Can someone enlighten me a bit?

It’s easy enough with car garages etc you say a cars been in and had 2k of work done to it simple as but that’s okay for laundering maybe a few hundred grand over a year or something not DK or even LB style money with lots of zeros.

Good programme on BBC maybe a year or so ago about how gangs used gold to launder it. They’d go to Antwerp with the cash to buy gold (at a rate), then bring the gold to Dubai (as much easier to carry than cash), then sell the gold on exchanges there. They’d issue notes and the money would go through a couple of banks

They’d obviously lose percentages along the way but Dubai was seen as being the centre of it and it involved billions

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50194681

theballz · 20-09-2020 1:48pm

Anyone who thinks that watch is real is simple. A watch like that can’t be bought with cash in this country and comes with a waiting list of about 5 years. A skinny little child from Finglas wouldn’t have them type of legitimate connections.

That watch is a fake as is all the gear these lads where, is as all the gear Garda pick up from brands like LV, Gucci etc

What amazes me most about this thread is how posters hold the likes of flashy in such high regards. Do you think a big time dealer would be wearing fake clothes and watches?! Absolutely not.

These lads are not big time, they just puppets. The big lads like Gill are the ones with the coin - they don’t flash it.

FixitFelix · 20-09-2020 2:06pm

theballz wrote: »

Anyone who thinks that watch is real is simple. A watch like that can’t be bought with cash in this country and comes with a waiting list of about 5 years. A skinny little child from Finglas wouldn’t have them type of legitimate connections.

That watch is a fake as is all the gear these lads where, is as all the gear Garda pick up from brands like LV, Gucci etc

What amazes me most about this thread is how posters hold the likes of flashy in such high regards. Do you think a big time dealer would be wearing fake clothes and watches?! Absolutely not.

These lads are not big time, they just puppets. The big lads like Gill are the ones with the coin - they don’t flash it.

The clothes they buy are real, canada goose jackets don't cost 10k they are making enough to buy them, but I agree the watch that was posted is fake

macpaccrack · 20-09-2020 3:08pm

theballz wrote: »

Anyone who thinks that watch is real is simple. A watch like that can’t be bought with cash in this country and comes with a waiting list of about 5 years. A skinny little child from Finglas wouldn’t have them type of legitimate connections.

That watch is a fake as is all the gear these lads where, is as all the gear Garda pick up from brands like LV, Gucci etc

What amazes me most about this thread is how posters hold the likes of flashy in such high regards. Do you think a big time dealer would be wearing fake clothes and watches?! Absolutely not.

These lads are not big time, they just puppets. The big lads like Gill are the ones with the coin - they don’t flash it.

If you walk into a shop with anything over 8k in cash and try to buy a watch they will ring the Guards. Unless GW has legit businesses then he's not going to be able to purchase something like that.

Ernie Ryan · 20-09-2020 3:37pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

If you walk into a shop with anything over 8k in cash and try to buy a watch they will ring the Guards. Unless GW has legit businesses then he's not going to be able to purchase something like that.

What about If u were in vegas .. take cash off u there.. and wat about all the other lads caught with 20k 30k watches in Ireland.. they weren't fake..

macpaccrack · 20-09-2020 3:43pm

Ernie Ryan wrote: »

What about If u were in vegas .. take cash off u there.. and wat about all the other lads caught with 20k 30k watches in Ireland.. they weren't fake..

You have to declare anything over 10k in cash at the airport.

Most of the 'other lads' with 20k, 30k watches have legit businesses washing their money. I don't think Flashy has that although I may be wrong.

FixitFelix · 20-09-2020 3:52pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

You have to declare anything over 10k in cash at the airport.

Most of the 'other lads' with 20k, 30k watches have legit businesses washing their money. I don't think Flashy has that although I may be wrong.

He could easily buy it of someone that bought it with washed money:)

It's still fake though

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 4:09pm

He can pay people to wash money for him but there are plenty of scammers selling fake watches online. Id say its more likely he is trying to make a fake watch look real.

Anyway its fairly pointless, he is public enemy number one will get plugged or seriousjailtime one day or another and all he has to show for it is some bling.

You can spot new money a mile off and it wears watches like that. It shouts about how rich it is and gets taken to the cleaners by old money. He just wants to be accepted by the old money but doesnt understand its not about bragging its about quietly collecting more and more money and more and more power.

Joe Kaine · 20-09-2020 4:11pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

If you walk into a shop with anything over 8k in cash and try to buy a watch they will ring the Guards. Unless GW has legit businesses then he's not going to be able to purchase something like that.

Plenty of shops & businesses will take the 8k cash and more and not a word about or from the Guards. I lodged 35k cash into a family members credit union account last week, tumbled the whole lot out of a shaving bag onto the counter. No questions asked.

theballz · 20-09-2020 4:21pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

He can pay people to wash money for him but there are plenty of scammers selling fake watches online. Id say its more likely he is trying to make a fake watch look real.

Anyway its fairly pointless, he is public enemy number one will get plugged or seriousjailtime one day or another and all he has to show for it is some bling.

You can spot new money a mile off and it wears watches like that. It shouts about how rich it is and gets taken to the cleaners by old money. He just wants to be accepted by the old money but doesnt understand its not about bragging its about quietly collecting more and more money and more and more power.

It’s just nonsense.

I don’t know how kids like that wearing fake jewellery are actually dictating going’s on.

Who is he hiding from?

theballz · 20-09-2020 4:23pm

Btw here is the fake watch.

€200 replica of a €90,000 watch. Shipped from China.

theballz · 20-09-2020 4:31pm

Btw here is the fake watch on DHGate.

€200 replica of a €90,000 watch. Shipped from China.

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 4:41pm

theballz wrote: »

It’s just nonsense.

I don’t know how kids like that wearing fake jewellery are actually dictating going’s on.

Who is he hiding from?

I think there is a few people moving into his area, he was fighting with a pile of ballymun kids publicly but he will probably wait until he get his back up crew back together or come back and deal for whoever is running things later.

It looks to me, and Im not from the area like he is just sitting it out to see which way the wind is going to blow.

If he did have anything to do with the Kilmore lads death it was said bigs kids pulled the trigger on the sanambar fella, that would link big to the kilmore father and his gang I suppose, thatd link big pushing into flashys patch in Finglas. Thatd link Flashy having to take a staycation out of the way in the sunny south east.

For all I know he is doing a small time version of running to Dubai and is directing operations from his wexford base.

Donald Trump · 20-09-2020 6:05pm

Joe Kaine wrote: »

Plenty of shops & businesses will take the 8k cash and more and not a word about or from the Guards. I lodged 35k cash into a family members credit union account last week, tumbled the whole lot out of a shaving bag onto the counter. No questions asked.

Doesn't mean they didn't/won't notify the Revenue. That notification is likely automated. At the end of the month, they probably "push a button" to generate a report for revenue detailing all activity above the threshold. That will include multiple transactions (you can't simply hide it by doing 35 lodgements of 1k each)

Donald Trump · 20-09-2020 6:11pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

He can pay people to wash money for him but there are plenty of scammers selling fake watches online. Id say its more likely he is trying to make a fake watch look real.

Anyway its fairly pointless, he is public enemy number one will get plugged or seriousjailtime one day or another and all he has to show for it is some bling.

You can spot new money a mile off and it wears watches like that. It shouts about how rich it is and gets taken to the cleaners by old money. He just wants to be accepted by the old money but doesnt understand its not about bragging its about quietly collecting more and more money and more and more power.

New money will buy the newest and most expensive phone model as soon as it is released.

Old money will keep a broke phone for months

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 6:14pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

New money will buy the newest and most expensive phone model as soon as it is released.

Old money will keep a broke phone for months

Old money has an investment in the company telling you that its bad if you dont have a brand new phone.

20-09-2020 6:41pm

macpaccrack wrote: »

If you walk into a shop with anything over 8k in cash and try to buy a watch they will ring the Guards. Unless GW has legit businesses then he's not going to be able to purchase something like that.

I really don't know if this is true. Shops are incredibly sceptical and quick to ring guards when buying a watch, because they are the big losers when the guards do their rounds and check for stolen merch. However a huge, and largely not discussed in the industry, segment of the market for high end watches are both blue and white collar criminals. Also, the second hand market on these watches are more active than the first hand one, it's often the only way to buy one. The idea that buying this watch is completely unattainable, not for monetary reasons, but for availability, to someone who can source a kilo of coke, to me is silly. The laws, rules and regulations, etc are set up to make purchasing that kilo a lot less easy than a high end watch, and yet we all know it happens daily.

theballz · 20-09-2020 7:05pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I really don't know if this is true. Shops are incredibly sceptical and quick to ring guards when buying a watch, because they are the big losers when the guards do their rounds and check for stolen merch. However a huge, and largely not discussed in the industry, segment of the market for high end watches are both blue and white collar criminals. Also, the second hand market on these watches are more active than the first hand one, it's often the only way to buy one. The idea that buying this watch is completely unattainable, not for monetary reasons, but for availability, to someone who can source a kilo of coke, to me is silly. The laws, rules and regulations, etc are set up to make purchasing that kilo a lot less easy than a high end watch, and yet we all know it happens daily.

I collected watches, I’ve bought 20k watches with cash in the past and no one has said a thing. However, I am in my mid 30’s, I don’t wear tracksuits or talk like a pikey.

If GW walked into weirs wearing a fake Canada goose jacket and purse around his neck, you can bet your bollocks eyebrows would be raised and they would request a deposit with full ID and ultimately follow up with the Garda.

Don’t be under an illusion, high end jellewery stories will look into you.

mynamejeff · 20-09-2020 7:20pm

Joe Kaine wrote: »

Plenty of shops & businesses will take the 8k cash and more and not a word about or from the Guards. I lodged 35k cash into a family members credit union account last week, tumbled the whole lot out of a shaving bag onto the counter. No questions asked.

if you lodge more than E9, 999 in a bank account they should ask for proof of where it comes from and or a notification is sent to the Gardaí automatically

Thesiger · 20-09-2020 7:21pm

theballz wrote: »

I collected watches, I’ve bought 20k watches with cash in the past and no one has said a thing. However, I am in my mid 30’s, I don’t wear tracksuits or talk like a pikey.

If GW walked into weirs wearing a fake Canada goose jacket and purse around his neck, you can bet your bollocks eyebrows would be raised and they would request a deposit with full ID and ultimately follow up with the Garda.

Don’t be under an illusion, high end jellewery stories will look into you.

Yeah I heard something about Roo who gets talked about a lot on here, apparently he got a Rolex worth something like €15-20k taken off him, went into Weirs a day or two later and bought a direct replacement for it. The shop handed over the CCTV to the guards who promptly took it off him.

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 7:27pm

Thesiger wrote: »

Yeah I heard something about Roo who gets talked about a lot on here, apparently he got a Rolex worth something like €15-20k taken off him, went into Weirs a day or two later and bought a direct replacement for it. The shop handed over the CCTV to the guards who promptly took it off him.

He has been in organised crime since he was a teen and didnt really have that much to show for it 15_20 years later when the police took everything off him.

If he was in an honest job he could have easily been earning atleast 40-50 grand a year by now.

theballz · 20-09-2020 7:56pm

Thesiger wrote: »

Yeah I heard something about Roo who gets talked about a lot on here, apparently he got a Rolex worth something like €15-20k taken off him, went into Weirs a day or two later and bought a direct replacement for it. The shop handed over the CCTV to the guards who promptly took it off him.

Yep, I know people in Weirs from over the years, I’ve heard all sorts of whispers and stories along them lines.

The thing with Rolex’s is there is 4-5 year waiting list on most new models, they have a solid customer base of celebrities (eg Conor McGregor) and other wealthy business people.

They don’t like doing business with the likes of Roo. Very bad for image

MrMedium · 20-09-2020 8:38pm

theballz wrote: »

Yep, I know people in Weirs from over the years, I’ve heard all sorts of whispers and stories along them lines.

The thing with Rolex’s is there is 4-5 year waiting list on most new models, they have a solid customer base of celebrities (eg Conor McGregor) and other wealthy business people.

They don’t like doing business with the likes of Roo. Very bad for image

Interesting....

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/news/arnotts-and-brown-thomas-train-staff-to-identify-money-laundering-39545192.html?__twitter_impression=true

IRE60 · 20-09-2020 8:52pm

theballz wrote: »

They don’t like doing business with the likes of Roo. Very bad for image

But they do, and have done for years!

It saw the article MrMedium refers to above. It's a bit like the ship has sailed on that one. They have been taking bogie money for years - inadvertently I hasten to add. And not exclusively drug money. Plenty of 'White collar' sh1theads with moody cash dumped on Grafton St

PLATOBONG · 20-09-2020 8:54pm

Have a read of this

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/encrochat-messages-reveal-at-least-ten-cases-of-bent-coppers-leaking-info/

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 9:24pm

Its just a party

That Tallant was talkkng about on the tweet. The post seems removed now.

theballz · 21-09-2020 10:56am

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

The place is gone wicked quiet on shooting and murders this year. Obv COVID has a massive part to play in that. Gonna be a statistic record for the Gardaí going back into the early 90’s i’d say if not further.

Check points allover Dublin the weekend, its only going to get tighter the deeper we go in lockdown.

Open the Pubs · 21-09-2020 11:57am

Ciro Di Marzio wrote: »

The place is gone wicked quiet on shooting and murders this year. Obv COVID has a massive part to play in that. Gonna be a statistic record for the Gardaí going back into the early 90’s i’d say if not further.

Yes, quitest in many a year on the gangland scene. In contract murders and all sorts seem to be increasing in England.

Birneybau · 21-09-2020 4:17pm

Whoa

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/5471118/sandra-mcclumpha-uddingston-fake-tan-daniel-kinahan-twitter/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Birneybau · 21-09-2020 4:18pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cancer42198753/status/1308058208355921922

judaspig · 21-09-2020 4:39pm

Birneybau wrote: »

Whoa

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/5471118/sandra-mcclumpha-uddingston-fake-tan-daniel-kinahan-twitter/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Its not hard to make a new account and carry on. The old tart should save her money.

Im melting away · 21-09-2020 6:23pm

judaspig wrote: »

Its not hard to make a new account and carry on. The old tart should save her money.

Money doesn't matter when it's dirty, cancer Kinahan is clearly linked to mtkglobal and their fighters as per their own website.

If the whistleblower is indeed Irish based, the Irish courts would hardly hand them over for their tweets, which are based on facts.

MTKcleaners · 21-09-2020 6:58pm

Im melting away wrote: »

Money doesn't matter when it's dirty, cancer Kinahan is clearly linked to mtkglobal and their fighters as per their own website.

If the whistleblower is indeed Irish based, the Irish courts would hardly hand them over for their tweets, which are based on facts.

Looks like the only thing she gained, was another massive article in the press calling out cancer, whistleblower could be anybody, and I doubt he, she or they will stop.

artanevilla · 21-09-2020 7:04pm

Anyone legit buying a watch worth that much is using a credit card. You spend the banks money, not yours when making those type of purchases.

Man with broke phone · 21-09-2020 7:08pm

artanevilla wrote: »

Anyone legit buying a watch worth that much is using a credit card. You spend the banks money, not yours when making those type of purchases.

Are you saying he has no intention of paying for it but the bank have given mr Flashy 80g limit on his credit card or are yiu saying therr is benefits to buying 80g watches at a 12 per cent a month interest rate?

artanevilla · 21-09-2020 7:19pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Are you saying he has no intention of paying for it but the bank have given mr Flashy 80g limit on his credit card or are yiu saying therr is benefits to buying 80g watches at a 12 per cent a month interest rate?

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsMydMDi3rI

It's over an hour, but a great hour.

Synopsis, use a credit card for everything.

Birneybau · 21-09-2020 7:49pm

He best get his credit cards in order:

https://twitter.com/Cancer42198753/status/1308114440617971715

Mago MVP · 21-09-2020 7:57pm

artanevilla wrote: »

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsMydMDi3rI

It's over an hour, but a great hour.

Synopsis, use a credit card for everything.

I’m not 100% on this but I’m not sure the Gucci gang watch TED talks?

Pinoy adventure · 21-09-2020 8:08pm

Birneybau wrote: »

He best get his credit cards in order:

https://twitter.com/Cancer42198753/status/1308114440617971715

Ah poor ears.heard His mrs is doing bjs for €50 a pop

theballz · 21-09-2020 8:35pm

Birneybau wrote: »

He best get his credit cards in order:

https://twitter.com/Cancer42198753/status/1308114440617971715

Why are they bothering raiding him? lol

How much do they reckon he is bringing in a month? He’s a child like. Fake clothes and watches. Really can’t picture this lad moving weight

Righteouswrong · 21-09-2020 8:36pm

Which gaff would that be? Surely he doesn’t keep anything in the one on Ratoath drive.

Haladmirer · 21-09-2020 8:39pm

artanevilla wrote: »

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsMydMDi3rI

It's over an hour, but a great hour.

Synopsis, use a credit card for everything.

Jaysus leo DiCaprio hasn't aged well

tabby aspreme · 21-09-2020 9:07pm

theballz wrote: »

Yep, I know people in Weirs from over the years, I’ve heard all sorts of whispers and stories along them lines.

The thing with Rolex’s is there is 4-5 year waiting list on most new models, they have a solid customer base of celebrities (eg Conor McGregor) and other wealthy business people.

They don’t like doing business with the likes of Roo. Very bad for image

Wilson's auctioneers, had an online auction on behalf of government agencies last month, plenty of flash footwear to1k, handbags to2.5k, watches up to 125000 in value and 4 or 5 lumps of gold weighing between 1 and 2 kgs

bigsuge1 · 21-09-2020 10:03pm

theballz wrote: »

Why are they bothering raiding him? lol

How much do they reckon he is bringing in a month? He’s a child like. Fake clothes and watches. Really can’t picture this lad moving weight

If you ask Nicola Tallant she’d have you believe he’s got more influence in Irish crime than the monk!

Interestedxx1 · 21-09-2020 11:57pm

Jeff2 wrote: »

I'm going to post this link as I don't think I was posted.

I'm sure it would be fine to do so.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/5870110/teenage-daughter-dad-edward-ward-dead-gangland-hit-dublin-murder/amp/[\URL]

ðŸ’”

twowheelsonly · 22-09-2020 11:29am

theballz wrote: »

Why are they bothering raiding him? lol

How much do they reckon he is bringing in a month? He’s a child like. Fake clothes and watches. Really can’t picture this lad moving weight

So hammer him now, before he becomes too big. Keep on top of him so that he's toxic to the main men. No-one wants to deal with someone drawing that much heat. Too much risk and potential loss.

Eyes1 · 22-09-2020 2:40pm

He's a lucky lad is ears. Had more than a few very serious attempts on his life but he's still here the lucky beggar

rondog · 22-09-2020 3:33pm

The guy isnt a genius but hes not thick.He doesnt have his wealth on his kitchen table waiting for CAB to raid it and take it away.
I know of an english lad who paid people to take 10k(hidden ) abroad and he had a fortune hidden not far from La concha mountain in marbella.

Probably still makes mid night visits to his little hole in the ground and lives will off it.

Used to visit his little hole inthe ground every time he was on holiday in marbs.

Tried to follow him a few times but he made sure i couldnt :-)

IRE60 · 22-09-2020 4:10pm

someone down a couple of quid this afternoon https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-find-245k-cocaine-three-22722067

Man with broke phone · 22-09-2020 4:31pm

IRE60 wrote: »

someone down a couple of quid this afternoon https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-find-245k-cocaine-three-22722067

1 man and 1 woman were charged the other fella was still in custody. Haha the second guy must be constipated and they were waiting for evidence to charge him.

Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

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