Covid in Schools

wirelessdude01 · 23-10-2020 9:10pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

You will celebrate dude. It will happen. Some stage.

Yes indeed we will win 'Sam' at some stage 😉

km79 · 23-10-2020 9:13pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Yes indeed we will win 'Sam' at some stage ðŸ˜‰

Probably this year when we can’t go to it or celebrate after !!!

I know exactly how the L Certs felt . But for them it was even worse . They missed out on so many milestones and rites of passages . And now have an absolutely crap first year in college

km79 · 23-10-2020 9:17pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

You will celebrate dude. It will happen. Some stage.

It’s a pain not even being able to meet up with up with any of them for a tea !
We had sold up and moved home last year so I don’t see any of them even in passing

Ah it is fine . The sun will shine on us all again

TheValeyard · 23-10-2020 9:19pm

km79 wrote: »

It’s a pain not even being able to meet up with up with any of them for a tea !
We had sold up and moved home last year so I don’t see any of them even in passing

Ah it is fine . The sun will shine on us all again

Just think when this sh1te does all end. The country is going to go mental. I'd say a week full on parties and an extra bank holiday weekend.

Bobtheman · 24-10-2020 8:08am

km79 wrote: »

Probably this year when we can’t go to it or celebrate after !!!

I know exactly how the L Certs felt . But for them it was even worse . They missed out on so many milestones and rites of passages . And now have an absolutely crap first year in college

I don't think any generation in Ireland has it easy. When we left college early 1990s britain had a horrific recession. Most graduates still emigrated.
Housing market in Ireland has been screwed 25 years. The young today have more online connections and entertainment that we could only dream of.
When they do go back to college they are more likely to be sexually active than the generation born in the 1960s and 1970s. Better dressed too.
So I would not pity them that much.

Balagan1 · 24-10-2020 11:23am

TheValeyard wrote: »

Just think when this sh1te does all end. The country is going to go mental. I'd say a week full on parties and an extra bank holiday weekend.

As if there is going to be a day or a week or a month or a year or even a decade when this pandemic ends. We're going to have to live with it. If we're lucky. And I hope we are!

wirelessdude01 · 24-10-2020 11:30am

Balagan1 wrote: »

As if there is going to be a day or a week or a month or a year or even a decade when this pandemic ends. We're going to have to live with it. If we're lucky. And I hope we are!

I nominate the 29th of Feb 2022 as the date

HildaOgdenx · 24-10-2020 11:33am

shesty wrote: »

Well I want to post a (rare) positive post here.My child had an absolute ball at school today.They all wore their costumes, they did their socially distanced parade and disco in the yard and they all had "movies" and sweets in their classrooms.The school and preschool did a superb job, especially this week and I cannot thank them enough for giving the little people in my house some bit of normality in their world, which has been turned on its head since March.It's a credit to the schools in question here, who have been doing their absolute best since early September.

Just to add to this, I was walking by the local primary school yesterday as the children were leaving. All decked out in their costumes, and delighted with life.

And I thought well done to everyone who made that possible for them.

Alex86Eire · 24-10-2020 1:56pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

So I would not pity them that much.

In fairness they've missed out on a lot compared to the few years before them. No school graduation, no debs/grads, no freshers week, no real university experience this year.
Its been a very tough year for them in particular.

km79 · 24-10-2020 3:22pm

Alex86Eire wrote: »

In fairness they've missed out on a lot compared to the few years before them. No school graduation, no debs/grads, no freshers week, no real university experience this year.
Its been a very tough year for them in particular.

I agree
I didn’t respond to his post as it was a weird enough take on what they are missing out on
I meant all of the above not anything else !

Bobtheman · 24-10-2020 5:08pm

Alex86Eire wrote: »

In fairness they've missed out on a lot compared to the few years before them. No school graduation, no debs/grads, no freshers week, no real university experience this year.
Its been a very tough year for them in particular.

Yes and they now have tons of articles telling them how miserable they should be. A whole therapy industry available to take their cash.
I'm not dismissing their concerns it's just the media is out there hyping it for them. Social media is worse and unregulated.
Anxiety is on the up no doubt but if the media in all its insidious forms was shut down for a month - all our anxiety would go down
A year of going without is just the preparation they will need for life

man_no_plan · 24-10-2020 5:12pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Yes and they now have tons of articles telling them how miserable they should be. A whole therapy industry available to take their cash.
I'm not dismissing their concerns it's just the media is out there hyping it for them. Social media is worse and unregulated.
Anxiety is on the up no doubt but if the media in all its insidious forms was shut down for a month - all our anxiety would go down

I'm getting anxious about not being anxious, so I can only imagine how they feel.

Everyone is telling us how hard this is going to be. It's not going to be straightforward but, perspective, we're not in Syria.

Bobtheman · 24-10-2020 5:16pm

man_no_plan wrote: »

I'm getting anxious about not being anxious, so I can only imagine how they feel.

Everyone is telling us how hard this is going to be. It's not going to be straightforward but, perspective, we're not in Syria.

Exactly-lets get a grip. Life ain't easy and the year won't wreck them Even though I'm sure a " study " of 100 UL graduates non peer reviewed will be hysterically plastered across the front pages of the Indo next year telling us how bad it's been for them but can anyone tell me the last positive news story any newspaper ran ? Even in 2019 it was a rarity.

Treppen · 24-10-2020 6:12pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Exactly-lets get a grip. Life ain't easy and the year won't wreck them Even though I'm sure a " study " of 100 UL graduates non peer reviewed will be hysterically plastered across the front pages of the Indo next year telling us how bad it's been for them but can anyone tell me the last positive news story any newspaper ran ? Even in 2019 it was a rarity.

You'll never see a survey in the media that'll say "generally most young people feel ok and are just getting on with life".
Personally I think it's time for Bressie to find something else. My third years were asking who the heck this Bressie guy is and why is he so preachy (they heard him on the radio in the car). The "Bressie in Bed with Leo" non-story says it all.

RealJohn · 24-10-2020 7:38pm

Alex86Eire wrote: »

In fairness they've missed out on a lot compared to the few years before them. No school graduation, no debs/grads, no freshers week, no real university experience this year.
Its been a very tough year for them in particular.

These are really small things to overcome. Did I miss the sarcasm?

Bobtheman · 24-10-2020 7:43pm

Lots of people have had future's wiped by Covid.
The young still have a future. They have time to recover.
I know a few business people who are throwing in the towel. They got over the last recession. They are finished now .

Alex86Eire · 24-10-2020 8:10pm

RealJohn wrote: »

These are really small things to overcome. Did I miss the sarcasm?

Nope. No sarcasm whatsoever. I just feel for them is all.

TheValeyard · 25-10-2020 11:04am

Alex86Eire wrote: »

Nope. No sarcasm whatsoever. I just feel for them is all.

Ye both have a point. In the grand scale of things, they are tiny unimportant things.

But, when your 17-19 that's your world. They are the grand things, they are part of life. That age group are hard wireded to socialise and mingle. It's definitely tough on them, but chances are next summer things could begin to return to normal.

Treppen · 25-10-2020 2:51pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Ye both have a point. In the grand scale of things, they are tiny unimportant things.

But, when your 17-19 that's your world. They are the grand things, they are part of life. That age group are hard wireded to socialise and mingle. It's definitely tough on them, but chances are next summer things could begin to return to normal.

Hopefully but there's no doubt they will still be finding it tough in terms of stable employment and securing somewhere to live.

Treppen · 25-10-2020 10:43pm

New and improved contact tracing for schools.
....And extra teachers !!
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1025/1173891-contact-tracing-schools/

wirelessdude01 · 25-10-2020 10:48pm

Treppen wrote: »

New and improved contact tracing for schools.
....And extra teachers !!
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1025/1173891-contact-tracing-schools/

Guessing principals drop Norma a text and she organises the sub 😁

km79 · 25-10-2020 11:05pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Guessing principals drop Norma a text and she organises the sub ðŸ˜

LOL
They are losing public support now and are trying desperately to regain it
So a school principal gets a call over a weekend to say 5 teachers are close contacts
The Dept immediately ensures 5 suitably qualified subs are in place ?
Where do they find them because they are not many available.....

Tony EH · 25-10-2020 11:08pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Ye both have a point. In the grand scale of things, they are tiny unimportant things.

But, when your 17-19 that's your world. They are the grand things, they are part of life. That age group are hard wireded to socialise and mingle. It's definitely tough on them, but chances are next summer things could begin to return to normal.

I think a lot of folk simply forget what it was like at that age for themselves. 2 or 3 years is a very short time in the grand scheme of things.

But, I sure as hell recall that I spent vastly more time out of my house than I did in it in my late teenage years.

wirelessdude01 · 25-10-2020 11:10pm

km79 wrote: »

LOL
They are losing public support now and are trying desperately to regain it
So a school principal gets a call over a weekend to say 5 teachers are close contacts
The Dept immediately ensures 5 suitably qualified subs are in place ?
Where do they find them because they are not many available.....

I'm gonna call it that panels of vetted 'civilians' will be established. Teacher out due to being a close contact then class is supervised by this person and teacher streams back into the class from Ciara Kellys hotpress or Claire Byrnes sauna.

km79 · 25-10-2020 11:27pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I'm gonna call it that panels of vetted 'civilians' will be established. Teacher out due to being a close contact then class is supervised by this person and teacher streams back into the class from Ciara Kellys hotpress or Claire Byrnes sauna.

I can see something like that happening !
How would parents feel about that .......
Discipline in schools will go to POR that’s for sure !
Would it be tolerated in any other profession ?
Why isn’t there a panel of civilians set up to cover shortages of GPs as they are under serious pressure too......nurses .....doctors in hospitals etc etc

RealJohn · 25-10-2020 11:56pm

Let’s not jump the gun (and the shark) on that ridiculous scenario just yet. Far more likely is that they’ll just provide funds for more subs, and hope that the reports of a lack of subs to actually take up the positions don’t get much attention, like they’ve done so far this year.

_Fluffy_ · 25-10-2020 11:57pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I'm gonna call it that panels of vetted 'civilians' will be established.

Except no ‘civilian’ in their right mind is going to voluntarily sign up to spend 6 hours in a crowded room with 30+ others, none of them wearing a mask, questionable ventilation and no possibility of social distancing

Remember, only teachers have that magic immunity that exempts us from being ‘close contacts‘ of our own pupils.

deiseindublin · 26-10-2020 12:05am

I can some special quick pandemic registration criteria for the TC, thus providing the teachers, by simply moving goalposts.

I'd say a lot of parents wouldn't care if there was unqualified subs in classrooms as long as we stay open. In a way I can see their point, we're in the middle of a pandemic, an unqualified sub in classroom situation is probably infinitely better for working parents than home schooling, in primary anyway.

I'd say the cracks would show more in Secondary where you have more specialisms, going deeper, and discipline much more of an issue, along with huge exam pressure.

km79 · 26-10-2020 12:11am

deiseindublin wrote: »

I can some special quick pandemic registration criteria for the TC, thus providing the teachers, by simply moving goalposts.

I'd say a lot of parents wouldn't care if there was unqualified subs in classrooms as long as we stay open. In a way I can see their point, we're in the middle of a pandemic, an unqualified sub in classroom situation is probably infinitely better for working parents than home schooling, in primary anyway.

I'd say the cracks would show more in Secondary where you have more specialisms, going deeper, and discipline much more of an issue, along with huge exam pressure.

And of course Garda vetting.........

deiseindublin · 26-10-2020 12:14am

km79 wrote: »

And of course Garda vetting.........

Ah, that can be pretty quick when they want it to be. Sure, can't be done for next Monday but can be fast tracked.

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