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Official Camogie thread 2020.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Swamp_Cat


    Hello all. Just curious if the match will be streamed anywhere or available for purchase. I'm in the states so no RTE etc. But do have access to Irish servers via my VPN provider so geo-restrictions aren't an issue. Been looking forward to this one. Thx.


    Julie catch a rabbit by its hare...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭robwen


    Swamp_Cat wrote: »
    Hello all. Just curious if the match will be streamed anywhere or available for purchase. I'm in the states so no RTE etc. But do have access to Irish servers via my VPN provider so geo-restrictions aren't an issue. Been looking forward to this one. Thx.

    Galway v Kilkenny
    Croke Park
    Throw-in: 7pm
    Referee: Owen Elliot (Antrim)
    To tune-in see RTÉ 2 and online via the RTÉ Player worldwide from 6.10pm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Swamp_Cat


    robwen wrote: »
    Galway v Kilkenny
    Croke Park
    Throw-in: 7pm
    Referee: Owen Elliot (Antrim)
    To tune-in see RTÉ 2 and online via the RTÉ Player worldwide from 6.10pm.

    Much appreciated!


    Julie catch a rabbit by its hare...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,839 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Looking forward to this tonight

    Still leaning on KK but should be tight. Thinking lower scoring-side of things too

    https://twitter.com/nichesportsdata/status/1337790718841155584?s=21


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Swamp_Cat


    robwen wrote: »
    Galway v Kilkenny
    Croke Park
    Throw-in: 7pm
    Referee: Owen Elliot (Antrim)
    To tune-in see RTÉ 2 and online via the RTÉ Player worldwide from 6.10pm.

    Camogie association's website says Facebook! No RTE, only has the semi's. I've no Facebook account so out of luck for viewing. camogie should stick w/YouTube. it's not like they're beating away crowds of fans during the best of times. They don't make it easy for overseas fans.

    Any radio station someone can point me to. I hate scrambling @ the last second. thax again


    Julie catch a rabbit by its hare...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Lot of fiddling and not much flow. Poor first touches.
    Not great so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    3 points apiece at the water break. these new rules on the physicality take a bit of getting used to. great intensity as they say but not much hurling unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    some good play. but such a huge amount of rucks and way too much soloing and taking possession into a tackle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    after opening up a bit now thankfully


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,946 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Just tuned 10 mins ago. Why the 5 mins injury time?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    No idea why there is 5 minutes injury time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Galway 1-5 Kilkenny 0-6 HT. Kilkenny missed a great goal chance a few minutes before half time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    Marty sounds bored as f*ck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭blackcard


    statesaver wrote: »
    No idea why there is minutes injury time.

    Presumably the clock was kept running during the waterbreak


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    Galway 1-5 Kilkenny 0-6 HT. Kilkenny missed a great goal chance a few minutes before half time.

    Bad miss by Kilkenny, I guess.

    Galway could have gotten in for a goal but was incorrectly penalised for a throw ball


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Marty sounds bored as f*ck.

    Not a great game and no crowd to create an atmosphere.
    Rolling the ball up onto the stick seems to have a tendency to start the rucks. Hopefully will open up as both push for the win.


  • Registered Users Posts: 517 ✭✭✭benji79


    Poor stuff so far really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Galway with a lot of silly passes and overrunning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Kilkenny player holding Galway players hurl and gets free


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Another great goal chance for Kilkenny put over the bar


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Does Kilkenny not realise you get 3 points for hitting it into the net.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Galway seem the better team but aren't playing well. Kilkenny have more hunger and determination.
    Awful game and anyone can win it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Tiki taka camogie not paying off for Galway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Water break needed for Galway just to calm things down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    statesaver wrote: »
    Water break needed for Galway just to calm things down

    They are in danger in of losing this. Haven't played well.
    I'm thinking Kilkenny are more likely to win. Short passing Galway are walking into trouble.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Great point


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cali Vast Flower


    That was a fine point but brutal free from Kilkenny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Game over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    No saving that penalty, Galway need a goal now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Classic21


    Soft penalty to win the game


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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cali Vast Flower


    Blow it up, ref.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Galway have thrown this away with their soloing out of defence and getting caught.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,365 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Standard of referring is a joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Deserved, better team won.
    Poor game of camogie.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Classic21 wrote: »
    Soft penalty to win the game

    She was fouled twice .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,839 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Really fancy Kilkenny for the final to be honest. Galway were fairly toothless against a relatively poor Tipperary side (in my opinion)

    From the below PDF, if Kilkenny can smother Galway inside their 45m line, Galway will really struggle for scores

    ...and as always; I can't ever explain enough how low a percentage play the 'long' puckout is.

    https://twitter.com/NicheSportsData/status/1336326092727074819?s=20

    This kinda held up well. Kilkenny really were gritty in their own half.

    Well worth their win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Deserved, better team won.
    Poor game of camogie.

    I'm not sure what's gone wrong with camogie, but the majority of the finals in recent years have been awful.
    I'm not overly happy with the new possession game in the hurling and the basketball scorelines, but the camogie is the other extreme - so much close quarter hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    callaway92 wrote: »
    This kinda held up well. Kilkenny really were gritty in their own half.

    Well worth their win.

    Ya, I think they were, left 3 sitters after them in the game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    Deserved win for the Cats. Great commitment, fitness and fighting spirit. Would have been tough to lose 4 in a row. Also they made a 6yr old girl in my house very happy. It shows the importance of young girls being able to see role models and heroes in their own sport.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Swamp_Cat


    Deserved, better team won.
    Poor game of camogie.

    Maybe so but I definitely enjoyed it. A. Doyle's first point & a Galway play around the same time were both top class. Several other examples & I think the pitch was softer than what we saw during the hurling semi's. Some mistakes & missed goal chances but overall a good match. Kilkenny deserved winners. Congrats to both teams.


    Julie catch a rabbit by its hare...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Classic21


    Fred Daly wrote: »
    She was fouled twice .

    Didn’t think it was a penalty.
    Kilkenny deserved it overall but more from Galway overplaying the ball and giving away possession to easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,839 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Classic21 wrote: »
    Didn’t think it was a penalty.
    Kilkenny deserved it overall but more from Galway overplaying the ball and giving away possession to easy

    That’s very harsh on KK. Can they not be credited for causing Galway the awful problems contributing to turnovers etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Swamp_Cat


    robbiezero wrote: »
    I'm not sure what's gone wrong with camogie, but the majority of the finals in recent years have been awful.
    I'm not overly happy with the new possession game in the hurling and the basketball scorelines, but the camogie is the other extreme - so much close quarter hurling.

    I have enjoyed the intermediate and maybe a few junior matches & comp finals much more than senior camogie the past 4 or so years. @ Club & County intermediate has served up some good stuff. IMO


    Julie catch a rabbit by its hare...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Saturday December 12th
    Liberty Insurance All-Ireland Senior Championship Final
    Galway 1-11 Kilkenny 1-14

    SCORERS FOR KILKENNY: D Gaule 1-6(0-4fs, 1-0 pen, 0-1 45); A Doyle 0-4; A Dalton, M O’Connell, K Nolan, G Walsh 0-1 each

    SCORERS FOR GALWAY: C Dolan 0-6(5fs); O McGrath 1-0; S McGrath 0-2; A O’Reilly, N Kilkenny, A Donohue 0-1 each

    A 57th minute penalty goal by Denise Gaule sealed a deserved victory for Kilkenny to lay the ghosts of previous Liberty Insurance All-Ireland Senior Final defeats firmly in the past.

    The Cats had lost the last three deciders in succession since getting their hands on the O’Duffy Cup in 2016 and were in no mood to fall short in this most unique of Championship seasons.

    Gaule finished with 1-6 but Brian Dowling had heroines all over the pitch.

    Grace Walsh has been immersed in Covid-19 as a nurse and she served up an all-action display that told of someone revelling in having the opportunity to express herself in that context. It was a performance that will live long in the memory.

    There were five changes to the team that were defeated in last year’s Final by Galway for a variety of reasons but so many of the newcomers stood tall on the most important day of all.

    Aoife Doyle was the game’s leading scorer from play with four points and two of those might well have been goals, while Katie Nolan thundered into the fray in the second half, as a supplier and scorer, and Mary O’Connell was noticeable too in an industrious Kilkenny attack that forced countless turnovers, a number of which led to scores.

    The first significant news of the evening was the starting berth for Kilkenny’s Kelly Ann Doyle, who tore her cruciate ligament for a second time on March 8th against Cork in the National League and whose first bit of action since then, was the 12-minute cameo against the same opposition in the Semi-Final a fortnight ago.

    To last an hour in such an affair was a testament to the Piltown flier’s dedication to her rehab.

    Among the more interesting match-ups, Davina Tobin was delegated to attend to Orlaith McGrath, with Niamh Kilkenny and Aoife Donohue facing off against Anna Farrell and Walsh respectively.

    Elsewhere, Caitriona Cormican was given the task of attempting to repeat her marking heroics on Anne Dalton 12 months ago.

    As the game settled, both teams left two forwards inside, the result of which was a clogged middle and one spare player invariably in defence.

    It started quickly, Siobhán McGrath marking her late call-up with a score in under 50 seconds, but Aoife Doyle replied with a stupendous point over her left shoulder running away from the posts.

    As space become more and more of a premium, the teams were reliant on the place-strikers and both Carrie Dolan and Gaule answered the call as they went into the first water break on 0-3 apiece.

    There was a suspicion beforehand, that the Galway attack carried the superior goal threat but it was Kilkenny who carved out the better opportunities in that regard, while the Kilkenny defence was outstanding.

    That said, Orlaith McGrath took a pass from her sister Siobhán to raise the game’s first green flag and that sent Cathal Murray’s charges in at the break leading by 1-5 to 0-6, though perhaps it was significant that Aoife Doyle pointed in response, and it should have been a goal after Walsh went on a careering run before putting her in a one-on-one position.

    It was more of the same after the resumption but Kilkenny gradually exerted dominance around the breaking ball. Nolan and Walsh were outstanding and when Gaule hit her only score from play after being found by Claire Phelan in the 40th minute, Kilkenny were in front for the first time.

    Dolan levelled quickly but Galway wouldn’t score for another 14 minutes. Doyle and Walsh put two between them but Brian Dowling must have been feeling nervous when Niamh Kilkenny and Dolan, from a free, restored parity.

    Then came the definitive moment, as Phelan emerged from a ruck with the sliotar and fed Anna Farrell, who found Gaule with a hand-pass of glorious vision. She tumbled under a challenge from Shauna Healy and Sarah Dervan and the penalty was awarded.

    The Windgap ace picked herself up off the deck to drill an unstoppable low shot past Sarah Healy, following up with a pointed free for the vital breathing space, and though Dolan brought it back to the goal from a placed ball, Galway could not create the opportunity for a spectacular escape.

    This was Kilkenny’s day.


    Not a classic by any stretch, and not the cliff hangers of the 1 point victories of recent finals, but the Cats got over the line, finally!
    Lots of rucks, and fumbles, dropped balls, but i think the pressure on both teams played its part - Galway to retain their title, and Kilkenny to just win one !
    Its great to see the pure elation on the team after the victory, even in an empty stadium with little atmosphere.

    What a day for my own club - 3 girls on the pitch, 1 on the bench, and 1 (unfortunatley)out injured.

    Hon the Cats !!

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,839 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    It is interesting how much set-pieces contribute to score tallies in Camogie. Good discipline is so important.

    Kilkenny were definitely braver with their shot selection though, a problem that’s a trend for Galway in trying to get too close to shoot a lot of the time when in reality, their shot conversion rate is quite good so there’d have been no harm taking a few lower percentage shots.

    https://twitter.com/nichesportsdata/status/1339690896305090561?s=21


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Down have requested that they are moved up to Senior camogie championship for the new season.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Also -

    League is starting in March.
    3rd levels in March
    All Ireland finals in September
    No split season.
    Second teams in different grades

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Draft proposals that were circulated .

    1) No split season between club and county fixtures

    2)Relegation in both League and Championship

    3)Second teams in Intermediate and Junior competitions to be grouped together and not meeting counties with just one team until the knock out stages.

    4)Later start to the League -1st weekend in March, with finals on the 1st weekend in May

    5) No intercounty games during May and June

    6) Championship to run from early July to finals in Croke Park in mid September.

    7) 2020 club championship to be completed by 7th March.

    8) 8 counties in Ulster now competing at inter county level , with Antrim and Down entering 2 teams.

    Counties have until Jan 11 to return feedback , before the meeting of county Chair's and secretaries on Jan 13.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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