Official Camogie thread 2020.

greenspurs

I haven't found a thread about Camogie, and when I post camogie related in the GAA thread of my county, the interest has been , low to ignored

So heres a place for all things Camogie.:

greenspurs

Some websites for information/quotes etc.

https://camogie.ie/

https://www.gaa.ie/my-gaa/getting-involved/camogie


Laws of the game :

https://camogie.ie/administration/official-rules/

greenspurs

Update on fixtures , and the restart of playing :

The Camogie Association can now confirm the arrangements being made for national competitions for the remainder of 2020 in light of the disruptions to this year’s calendar as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.
• The 2020 Liberty Insurance All-Ireland Championships will take place between October – December 2020. The exact format and dates of these competitions will be finalised in the coming weeks. The competitions will begin on a round-robin basis with increased groups before progressing to the knockout stages. There will be no automatic promotion/relegation in the 2020 All-Ireland Championships.
• The 2020 All-Ireland Under 16 Championships will take place between October – December 2020. The exact format and dates of these competitions will be finalised in the coming weeks.
• The 2020/2021 AIB All-Ireland Club Championships will proceed as normal but with a revised calendar that will run into 2021. The exact format and dates of these competitions will be finalised in the coming weeks.
• The 2020 Littlewoods Ireland Camogie Leagues which began in February have now been cancelled.
• The 2020 Tesco All-Ireland Minor Championships which began in February have now been cancelled. However, in order to facilitate a programme of matches in a regional format, Minor competitions will take place on a Provincial basis in 2020 from October to December.
• The National Competitions Management Committee will confirm competition entries for all competitions in the coming weeks.
• The Association is continuing to work through options regarding underage structures and initiatives in 2020 and will provide an update on this in the coming weeks.
The Association wishes to acknowledge that the cancellation of many competitions is of great disappointment to those involved however due to these unprecedented times many such difficult decisions have had to be made. The health and safety of our members is of paramount importance and the ‘Safe Return to Gaelic Games’ plan offers a route back to activity, subject to the government timelines being achieved in the weeks and months ahead. We thank all of our members for their continued co-operation and support throughout this process.
We also wish to sincerely thank all of our competition sponsors for their support and understanding during this period and regarding the significant changes to this year’s calendar and competitions.
All dates and details are subject to change based on the latest advice from the Government Health Authorities and we will update our plans accordingly should this arise.

zetecescort

Senior Championship draw made today

Group 1
Cork
Galway
Offaly
Wexford

Group 2
Kilkenny
Limerick
Waterford
Westmeath

Group 3
Clare
Dublin
Tipperary

The structure of this competition will see the winners of Groups 1 and 2 proceed directly to the Semi-Finals.
The Quarter-Finals of the Senior Championship will see a further draw take place where the winner of Group 3 and the runners-up of Groups 1, 2 and 3 will play each other.

zetecescort

Group 1 the group of death anyway. One of champions Galway, Cork or Wexford to miss out

greenspurs

Youd imagine Kilkenny would qualify from Group 2.

Group 1 - I think it s between Cork and Galway.

greenspurs

Intermediate Championship

Group 1
Dublin
Galway
Kildare
Laois

Group 2
Cork
Kerry
Meath

Group 3
Derry
Down
Kilkenny

Group 4
Antrim
Carlow
Tipperary


The structure of this competition will see the winners of each group progress to the Semi-Finals, with the winner of Group 1 playing the winner of Group 2, and the winner of Group 3 playing the winner of Group 4.

TCDStudent1

Is there a promotion / relegation scenario in camogie?

zetecescort

Dates for the senior championship
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October 17/18: Offaly v Cork; Wexford v Galway; Limerick v Westmeath; Waterford v Kilkenny; Dublin v Tipperary

October 24/25: Kilkenny v Westmeath; Waterford v Limerick; Tipperary v Clare

October 31/ November 1: Cork v Wexford; Galway v Offaly; Clare v Dublin

November 7/8: Galway v Cork; Wexford v Offaly; Kilkenny v Limerick; Westmeath v Waterford

November 14/15: All-Ireland quarter-finals

November 28/29: All-Ireland semi-finals

December 12: All-Ireland final

greenspurs

Some results and updates.

Senior Camogie -

Group 1
Date Throw-in Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue
17th October 2:00 pm Offaly N/A N/A Cork Cancelled - Cork awarded walkover victory Cancelled
18th October 2:00 pm Wexford 3-9 5-17 Galway
31st October Cork -- -- Wexford TBC TBC
1st November Galway -- -- Offaly TBC TBC
7th November Wexford -- -- Offaly TBC TBC
8th November Galway -- -- Cork TBC TBC

Group 2
Date Throw-in Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue
17th October 2:00 pm Limerick 0-12 1-12 Westmeath Bruff GAA
17th October 2:00 pm Waterford 0-8 0-15 Kilkenny Walsh Park
24th October 2:00 pm Kilkenny -- -- Westmeath John Lockes Callan GAA
25th October 2:00 pm Waterford -- -- Limerick Walsh Park
8th November Kilkenny -- -- Limerick TBC TBC
8th November Westmeath -- -- Waterford TBC TBC

Group 3
Date Throw-in Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue
18th October 2:00 pm Tipperary 0-20 1-8 Clare The Ragg
25th October 2:00 pm Dublin -- -- Tipperary Parnells GAA/Coolock
31st October Clare -- -- Dublin TBC TBC

greenspurs

Intermediate Championship -

Group 1
Date Throw-in Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue
17th October 2:00 pm Galway 3-19 0-5 Dublin Pearse Stadium -
24th October 2:00 pm Kildare -- -- Laois Hawkfield
31st October Dublin -- -- Kildare TBC TBC
31st October Laois -- -- Galway TBC TBC
7th November Kildare -- -- Galway TBC TBC
7th November Laois -- -- Dublin TBC TBC

Group 2
Date Throw-in Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Referee
24th October Cork -- -- Kerry CANCELLED
31st October Kerry -- -- Meath TBC
7th November Meath -- -- Cork TBC

Group 3
Date Throw-in Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue
24th October 2:00 pm Derry -- -- Down Slaughtneil
31st October Down -- -- Kilkenny TBC
7th November Kilkenny -- -- Derry TBC
Group 4
Date Throw-in Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue
24th October 2:00 pm Antrim -- -- Carlow Inniskeen Grattans
31st October Carlow -- -- Tipperary TBC
7th November Tipperary -- -- Antrim TBC

Updated -
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/583517/removal-of-limerick-team-confirmed-from-all-ireland-junior-camogie-championship.html

https://camogie.ie/news/restructuring-of-2020-liberty-insurance-all-ireland-intermediate-and-premier-junior-championships/

10 Intermediate and Junior county teams have been culled due to the latest "public health advice" recieved from the Dept of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht , Sport and Media.
No change to the Senior championship, revised Groups and details for Intermediate and Premier Junior will be released next week.

funkey_monkey

Cork just that bit better than Clare here. Some nice working up the pitch by both sides, but have more confidence in the Cork players holding possession.

JohnGreenFan

Great game here between Tipp and Waterford. Tipp looking the better team but only 2 points in it

greenspurs

Senior 1/4 Final results.

Cork 3-15 0-8 Clare
Tipperary 1-12 0-10 Waterford
https://www.rte.ie/sport/camogie/2020/1114/1178132-tipperary-edge-past-waterford-for-semi-final-spot/
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1114/1178131-corks-late-goal-rush-puts-valiant-clare-to-sword/

Senior Semi Final Draw.

28th November Galway-- -- Tipperary Páirc Uí Chaoimh - E.T. if required
28th November Cork -- -- Kilkenny Páirc Uí Chaoimh - E.T. if required

Both games will be live on RTE2 afaik.

greenspurs

Nancy Murray Final

14th November Cavan 2-14 1-3 Tyrone

callaway92

Fun breakdown here of Kilkenny’s performance in their last group game. Nice to have it compared to the usual GAA thing of just puckouts and shots.

Them vs Cork in the semis should be a great game.

PDF Breakdown

greenspurs

callaway92 wrote: »

Fun breakdown here of Kilkenny’s performance in their last group game. Nice to have it compared to the usual GAA thing of just puckouts and shots.

Them vs Cork in the semis should be a great game.

PDF Breakdown

That pdf isnt loading for me .

It is now.....
Wow .... that is really in depth !

callaway92

greenspurs wrote: »

That pdf isnt loading for me .

It is now.....
Wow .... that is really in depth !

Yeh it looks to be working off Google Drive (if you don’t have the app on your phone it won’t work prob)

Looks to be a mix of Live and Post-Match coding allowing for that depth.

TippCashel

callaway92 wrote: »

Fun breakdown here of Kilkenny’s performance in their last group game. Nice to have it compared to the usual GAA thing of just puckouts and shots.

Them vs Cork in the semis should be a great game.

PDF Breakdown

This is honestly really impressive

greenspurs

Intermediate Semi-Finals
Sat 21st November
3:15 pm Antrim V Laois Inniskeen Grattans GAA, Co. Monaghan - E.T. if required
1:30 pm Down V Meath St. Tiernach's Park, Clones, Co. Monaghan - E.T. if required

Premier Junior Semi-Finals
Sat 21st November
2:30 pm Armagh V Tyrone Crossmaglen Rangers GAA, Co. Armagh
1:30 pm Roscommon V Cavan Athleague GAA, Co. Roscommon Mike Ryan

Very different looking Semi finalists than what we would have thought of back in March.

ShamoBuc

callaway92 wrote: »

Fun breakdown here of Kilkenny’s performance in their last group game. Nice to have it compared to the usual GAA thing of just puckouts and shots.

Them vs Cork in the semis should be a great game.

PDF Breakdown

A very impressive breakdown!!

Cats v Rebels has the makings of a cracker, really looking forward to it.

greenspurs

Premier Junior Semi Finals -

Armagh 2-10 3-4 Tyrone

Roscommon 1-6 2-16 Cavan


FINAL -

5th December Armagh -- -- Cavan Kingspan Breffni

greenspurs

Intermediate Semi Finals -

Antrim 0-14 0-3 Laois
Down 0-14 0-8 Meath


FINAL -

5th December Antrim -- Down TBC Kingspan Breffni

greenspurs

Massive weekend for camoige !

Saturday 28th November. Senior Semi Finals.
Both games live on RTE2.

12:30 pm Cork -- -- Kilkenny Páirc Uí Chaoimh - E.T. if required Owen Elliot

2:15 pm Galway-- -- Tipperary Páirc Uí Chaoimh - E.T. if required Ray Kelly

Two very even matched semis.
Cork the in form team, will they see off the Cats again.
Tipp, can they get to a final, against a class Galway team.
A great day of camogie in store.

ShamoBuc

Cork playing the better camogie at the first water break, started well, kilkenny still to find their feet.
Some piir sides by Kiljenny.
Cork 1-04 v 0-03

ShamoBuc

Kilkenny come back into it and are up by a point at ht, enjoyable game. Only 40 seconds of 2 minutes injury time played for some reason.

ShamoBuc

Kilkenny by 2.

But just as the in the first half, the ref blew up early, 2 minutes early.

Commentator mentioned it bot times that the stadium clock was not stopped for water breaks etc.

Very strange.

Close and enjoyable game.

callaway92

Cork scored 1-03 in the first 7 mins - Only 8 points thereafter to KK’s 2-10

greenspurs

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Only 40 seconds of 2 minutes injury time played for some reason.

ShamoBuc wrote: »

But just as the in the first half, the ref blew up early, 2 minutes early.

Commentator mentioned it bot times that the stadium clock was not stopped for water breaks etc.

It was a bit confusing alright.

The refs watch isnt stopped stopped for the Sos Uisce in camogie, but it is in hurling and gaelic football.

You'd think that Ger Canning and Marty Morrissey would know that !!! :rolleyes:
Although Marty did announce that at the start of the second half of the Tipp Galway game.

greenspurs

Two enjoyable games but , i think the Tipp Galway game wasnt quite the same level as the Kilkenny Cork game.

Kilkenny 2-10 1-11 Cork


Kilkenny really struggled to get up to game speed until the water break, and seemed to kick on them.
a clinical performance , grabbed 2 important goals, and showed great character to get back into it after Corks goal, and get over the line.
Cork didnt really click , missed some chances, and were caught badly for the 2 goals. And maybe if they didnt waste so many chances they would have beaten a Kilkenny side that didnt score for 21 mins in the second half (and only 1 from play in that half also!).
Ref was a bit finicky with the overcarrying rule , and a bit whistle happy.

https://camogie.ie/news/report-cats-come-back-from-the-dead-to-claim-final-place/
From a personal point of view, it was amazing to see 3 of our club girls on the pitch and also one in the stand (injured)

SCORERS FOR KILKENNY: D Gaule 0-7(6fs); A Dalton 1-1; M Walsh 1-0; M O’Connell 0-2

SCORERS FOR CORK: C Sigerson 0-4(1f); O Cronin 0-3(fs); G O’Connor 1-0; A Thompson, K Mackey 0-2 each

greenspurs

Galway 1-11
Tipperary 0-8

Not as free flowing as the first Semi, with a gritty display from Galway enough to see them over the line against a sub par Tipp team.
Galway could have won by a lot more but the Tipp keeper ,Aine Slattery saved a penalty taken by opposing keeper Sarah Healy and made two other great saves to prevent goals .
Only 4 points from play from Tipperary, it was never going to be enough.


SCORERS FOR GALWAY: C Dolan 1-3 (0-1 f, 0-1 45); O McGrath, S McGrath (1 45, 1 pen) 0-2 each; A O’Reilly, R Hennelly, N Hanniffy, N Kilkenny 0-1 each

SCORERS FOR TIPPERARY: C Devane 0-6 (4fs); R Howard, S Fryday 0-1 each

https://camogie.ie/news/report-gritty-galway-see-off-tipp-to-set-up-all-ireland-final-repeat-with-kilkenny/

greenspurs

In a sad sign of the times, theres a gofund me page set up for the Kilkenny senior team.

Just to hammer home the disparity if funding between hurling and camogie, the Kilkenny camogie board have set up a page to cover the costs associated with reaching the final.

Heres the link if anyone wants to donate.

https://ie.gofundme.com/f/camogie-all-ireland-fund

greenspurs

Saturday 5th December


Intermediate Championship Final.


3:45 pm Antrim-- --Down Kingspan Breffni, Co. Cavan



Premier Junior Championship

1:45 pm Armagh -- --Cavan Kingspan Breffni, Co. Cavan

In the first match of the day Armagh take on Cavan, as Armagh chase a first Premier Junior title since 1993, whilst Cavan are aiming to lift the Kay Mills Cup for the first time in what has already been a trophy-laden year for them, having won the Nancy Murray Cup just a few weeks ago.

In the Intermediate Final, Antrim and Down go head-to-head . Antrim are chasing a first title at this level since 2003, whilst Down are aiming for to bridge a gap that stretches back to 1998 since they claimed the Jack McGrath Cup.

Both games will be broadcast live on the RTÉ News Channel and online via the RTÉ Player worldwide and the BBC iPlayer.

jonniegoogle

greenspurs wrote: »

In a sad sign of the times, theres a gofund me page set up for the Kilkenny senior team.

Just to hammer home the disparity if funding between hurling and camogie, the Kilkenny camogie board have set up a page to cover the costs associated with reaching the final.

Heres the link if anyone wants to donate.

Tough on the girls when it comes to the big day. They have to raise monies to cover gear and expenses.
Don't forget camogie isn't under the GAA umbrella(by their own choice).

The girls doing very well this year considering injuries/absentees

jonniegoogle

callaway92 wrote: »

Fun breakdown here of Kilkenny’s performance in their last group game. Nice to have it compared to the usual GAA thing of just puckouts and shots.

Them vs Cork in the semis should be a great game.

This is very good. Who does it

callaway92

jonniegoogle wrote: »

This is very good. Who does it

It's just under the brand name NICHE Sports Data - Saw it retweeted on Twitter

https://twitter.com/NicheSportsData

callaway92

Hook it to my veins

https://twitter.com/nichesportsdata/status/1334253358513795072?s=21

funkey_monkey

Cavan looking second best here.

funkey_monkey

Posted 60s before they get a goal and a point

funkey_monkey

Down stepping away here.

greenspurs

Premier Junior Championship Final.

Armagh 0-19 3-7 Cavan Kingspan Breffni, Co. Cavan

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1205/1182547-ciara-donnelly-brilliance-helps-armagh-end-title-wait/

Very interesting game.
Ciara Donnelly outstanding with 13 pts

greenspurs

Intermediate Final

3:45 pm Down 4-16 2-10 Antrim Kingspan Breffni, Co. Cavan

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1205/1182546-down-end-22-year-wait-for-intermediate-camogie-crown/

Niamh mallon outstanding with 2-03.
Down kicked on in the second half when Antrim threatened to get back into the game.

greenspurs

https://mydup.com/news/scenes-following-armagh-camogie-match-inexcusable-glorification-of-ira-terrorism-buckley

Silly carry on , especially to record it in the dressing room !

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/camogie/armagh-camogie-investigating-dressing-room-23133220

"ooh ahh up Armagh" ?? hmmmm

greenspurs

4 days to go .

A good piece about Kilkenny captain - Lucinda Gahan.

https://www.the42.ie/lucinda-gahan-kilkenny-camogie-5291495-Dec2020/

funkey_monkey

greenspurs wrote: »

https://mydup.com/news/scenes-following-armagh-camogie-match-inexcusable-glorification-of-ira-terrorism-buckley

Silly carry on , especially to record it in the dressing room !

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/camogie/armagh-camogie-investigating-dressing-room-23133220

"ooh ahh up Armagh" ?? hmmmm

Definitely sounded more like up the Ra. Not sure what the RA had to do with their victory and stupidity of recording it and releasing it on social media.

callaway92

Really fancy Kilkenny for the final to be honest. Galway were fairly toothless against a relatively poor Tipperary side (in my opinion)

From the below PDF, if Kilkenny can smother Galway inside their 45m line, Galway will really struggle for scores

...and as always; I can't ever explain enough how low a percentage play the 'long' puckout is.

https://twitter.com/NicheSportsData/status/1336326092727074819?s=20

jonniegoogle

callaway92 wrote: »

Really fancy Kilkenny for the final to be honest. Galway were fairly toothless against a relatively poor Tipperary side (in my opinion)

From the below PDF, if Kilkenny can smother Galway inside their 45m line, Galway will really struggle for scores

...and as always; I can't ever explain enough how low a percentage play the 'long' puckout is.

https://twitter.com/NicheSportsData/status/1336326092727074819?
s=20

Kilkenny tried to smother them last year. They played very defensive, (especially off Galway POs) with only 4 forwards for most of the game. Looked ideal setup but they defended very poorly and didn't hurl well in general.
Did well to get through Vs Cork without scoring for last 21 mins??
I wouldn't write them off but I think they'll be under severe pressure

callaway92

jonniegoogle wrote: »

Kilkenny tried to smother them last year. They played very defensive, (especially off Galway POs) with only 4 forwards for most of the game. Looked ideal setup but they defended very poorly and didn't hurl well in general.
Did well to get through Vs Cork without scoring for last 21 mins??
I wouldn't write them off but I think they'll be under severe pressure

It’s all down to how KK defend tbh. If they defend well they’ll win it. They play deep in general anyway.

KK new manager this year so I wouldn’t be using last year’s final as a perfect sample.

Can’t be any write-offs as the match is rightly 50/50 in betting terms but if I was to lean on the 50/50 it would be to KK.

Galway very leaky for fouls too and Denise Gaule’s free scoring rate is ridic impressive.

In their semi against Cork, they held Cork to just 0-08 after the seven minute mark so it wasn’t about KK needing to score for a finish. When they had the lead they just needed to hold Cork off which they did well.

jonniegoogle

callaway92 wrote: »

It’s all down to how KK defend tbh. If they defend well they’ll win it. They play deep in general anyway.

KK new manager this year so I wouldn’t be using last year’s final as a perfect sample.

Can’t be any write-offs as the match is rightly 50/50 in betting terms but if I was to lean on the 50/50 it would be to KK.

Galway very leaky for fouls too and Denise Gaule’s free scoring rate is ridic impressive.

In their semi against Cork, they held Cork to just 0-08 after the seven minute mark so it wasn’t about KK needing to score for a finish. When they had the lead they just needed to hold Cork off which they did well.

Brian Dowling was coach last year and presume he was responsible for setting up the gameplan.
Just think that Cork are far from the force they were a couple of years ago, without Cotter, an ageing Gemma and a quiet Thompsom for most of game and still they had KKs number, just couldn't score.
But yeah if KK defend well, they'll have a great chance, but they can't let Galway walk through for goals like last year.

greenspurs

Galway captain Sarah Dervan.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/camogie/2020/1207/1182932-aisle-of-hope-aisle-of-tears-dervan-loses-final-fears/

greenspurs

Kilkenny stalwart - teak tough (and great fun in the prematch handshake) Collette dormer.

https://camogie.ie/news/when-the-final-whistle-went-the-feeling-was-savage-kilkennys-collette-dormer/