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Summer 2015 - Long Range Forecasts

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭twinkletoes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    The weather can't be predicted for more than a few days, even at that it's rarely right. Any of these long range forecasts are completely made up. But going from previous years, usually when we get a sunny spring like this we have a fairly wet summer.
    You're right 4 days ahead is as accurate as it gets but you may as well be talking to a brick wall trying to get it into a lot of peoples heads.

    What sunny spring? Nothing but a cold miserable spring down south.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Storm 10 wrote: »

    He's quite popular in Scotland, keeps popping up on my Facebook feed because a lot of people share his page. Suffers from the annoying habit of constantly referring to himself in the third person. He tends to focus on shortish range stuff I think, interpreting FI models etc. rather than anything too long term.

    Anyway I was told in a pub in Mayo last night that the man from New Zealand 'says we're in for a shocker this summer' so we might as well all just pack it in now...(true story, it's crazy how seriously people take his forecasts).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Right to everyone who doesnt believe in long range weather why are ye on this thread begrudging people who have a common interest in predicting long range weather for the summer.

    For the past 4 weeks on 5 days met eireann got the weather forecast COMPLETELY wrong the DAY before. Three sundays in the past 2 months that were forecast wet on the saturday were indeed sunny everywhere .

    Rainfall of 15mm that was presicted was trace.

    Now im not picking on met eireann coz theyr class but forecasting weather can never be exact. Thats why let long rangw forecasts exist.

    At the very least they are a guide to the weather that commonly occurs during the season at most they can predict obvious trends such as a barage of low pressures at present and a high pressure build in early june

    Sorry for my poor typing. Samsung tiny letters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Well looking at June on accu , it seems to be a month of sunny spells and scattered showers with temps of 18-20 degrees .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Well looking at June on accu , it seems to be a month of sunny spells and scattered showers with temps of 18-20 degrees .
    Oh dear what did I say about forecasting after 4-5 days :mad:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,962 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Well looking at June on accu , it seems to be a month of sunny spells and scattered showers with temps of 18-20 degrees .

    considering how cool and miserable May was, temps of 18-20 for June would be a massive improvement. The start of June could still be cool as the next 5 to 6 days is going to be well below average temps at times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭mitresize5


    A wet and windy May fills the barn with corn and hay.

    You heard it here first ..... its going to be a scorching summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    mitresize5 wrote: »
    A wet and windy May fills the barn with corn and hay.

    You heard it here first ..... its going to be a scorching summer.

    It rhymes, must be true.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭delahuntv


    mitresize5 wrote: »
    A wet and windy May fills the barn with corn and hay.

    You heard it here first ..... its going to be a scorching summer.

    I won't believe it until I see it on the front page of the Daily Muck Mail :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    mitresize5 wrote: »
    A wet and windy May fills the barn with corn and hay.

    You heard it here first ..... its going to be a scorching summer.

    Heard that one from some of my older relatives, hope its true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    A wet and windy may

    Keeps the heat a bay

    The same cold every day

    For heating you must pay

    NO sunshine not a ray

    IRELAND says yes to gay


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    pauldry wrote:
    IRELAND says yes to gay


    This sh*t is even taking over the weather forum now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Lumi wrote: »
    The Netweather long-range forecast up to July is available here

    May - wetter than average, temps close to or slightly warmer than average
    June - warmer than average, rainfall close to normal
    July - wetter than average

    Take this with the usual great big pinch of salt :pac:

    May temperatures above average ciuldnt have been more wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Heard from the local gossip today that the "new Zealand fella" is after "changing his mind" and now august will be a lovely month.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    July is looking pretty good on my accuweather app. Was not expecting yesterday..starting to think I might give up on any predictions, expect the worst and just enjoy any sunny days that come along :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lapua20grain


    lolo62 wrote: »
    July is looking pretty good on my accuweather app. Was not expecting yesterday..starting to think I might give up on any predictions, expect the worst and just enjoy any sunny days that come along :)
    you're probably right feck it enjoy it while we get it:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭delahuntv


    Here we go - the most famous of all long range forecasters has spoken! :)

    From Irish Times -

    Donegal postman Michael Gallagher is saying all signs indicate we have a very good summer ahead.

    Mr Gallagher, who has developed his weather forecasting expertise during his more than 40 years of working as postman, says a cold May is a strong indicator of a nice summer. His predictions are based on the behaviour of the Donegal wildlife, he says.

    “Nature and animals are very knowledgeable, they know what’s going to happen with the weather,” said Mr Gallagher. “They have an instinct which we as human beings don’t have.”

    He says sheep and cattle tend to retreat down the mountains in search of shelter when a cold snap is on the way. He added that the cry of the curlew bird is a traditional sign that rain is on the cards.

    With no curlews audible and livestock exploring the upper plains of the Donegal hills, it looks like the good weather is here to stay, he says.

    However, he warns that hot weather will inevitably bring heavy downpours and plenty of thunder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    you're probably right feck it enjoy it while we get it:)

    Ok so that idea lasted about a day. Problem is now I'm enjoying the sunshine, the niggling fear it might go away again has crept in...in an ideal world one doesn't rely on external things to gain ones happiness, but I'm pretty sure whoever came to that conclusion was not Irish!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    delahuntv wrote: »
    it looks like the good weather is here to stay, he says.

    However, he warns that hot weather will inevitably bring heavy downpours and plenty of thunder.[/B]

    Bit like Mystic Meg - covering all the angles :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,539 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Why a "quality" paper like the Irish Times gives that spoofer coverage is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    I think we are about to get some pay back for the last 2 months of grimness. Tonights ECM is a cracker with the country spending at least 10 days from Monday bathed in TM air giving temps into the 20's for nearly all(bar some coastal areas in the W and S at times). In fact its been many many years since we've seen a set up like this ie. the last 2 summer heat was more home grown under static HP centres with the odd bit of warm air coming in off the continent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Sorry, couldn't resist. :o

    351919.jpg

    ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,989 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    That idiot from up here gets press time every year.
    Can't blame the idiot himself, people keep asking him for his opinion.

    I wish they'd stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    delahuntv wrote: »
    Here we go - the most famous of all long range forecasters has spoken! :)

    From Irish Times -

    Donegal postman Michael Gallagher is saying all signs indicate we have a very good summer ahead.

    Mr Gallagher, who has developed his weather forecasting expertise during his more than 40 years of working as postman, says a cold May is a strong indicator of a nice summer. His predictions are based on the behaviour of the Donegal wildlife, he says.

    “Nature and animals are very knowledgeable, they know what’s going to happen with the weather,” said Mr Gallagher. “They have an instinct which we as human beings don’t have.”

    He says sheep and cattle tend to retreat down the mountains in search of shelter when a cold snap is on the way. He added that the cry of the curlew bird is a traditional sign that rain is on the cards.

    With no curlews audible and livestock exploring the upper plains of the Donegal hills, it looks like the good weather is here to stay, he says.

    However, he warns that hot weather will inevitably bring heavy downpours and plenty of thunder.

    That must be why hill sheep get stuck in snow. The call of a Curlew depends on when it mates & nests. I believe that they were early this year so they won't be calling now.

    My local nursery hate this man. He once warned of a bad Winter & no one would buy plants. The nursery got stuck with lots of unsold stock. It turned out to be a mild Winter & would of been perfect for planting :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭Alexis Sanchez


    Discodog wrote: »
    That must be why hill sheep get stuck in snow. The call of a Curlew depends on when it mates & nests. I believe that they were early this year so they won't be calling now.

    My local nursery hate this man. He once warned of a bad Winter & no one would buy plants. The nursery got stuck with lots of unsold stock. It turned out to be a mild Winter & would of been perfect for planting :mad:

    The plant nursery should sue them. I'd love to see these quacks, and the tabloids that give them a platform, get their comeuppance.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    The plant nursery should sue them. I'd love to see these quacks, and the tabloids that give them a platform, get their comeuppance.

    Why be afraid of free speech?

    If I want to say God told me July will be a washout then let nobody try to stop me - I am not responsible if idiots choose to believe me :mad:

    And, btw, He did tell me July will be a washout....:cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭Alexis Sanchez


    Why be afraid of free speech?

    If I want to say God told me July will be a washout then let nobody try to stop me - I am not responsible if idiots choose to believe me

    And, btw, He did tell me July will be a washout....

    I'm all for free speech and I wish we had it guaranteed in our constitution, like they do in America. What gave you the impression that I'm against it?

    These people are scaremongering with pseudo-scientific nonsense and they are consistently inaccurate, so someone should be held liable for the damages they cost. I'm not asking for them to go to prison or anything, just to pay for the losses they cost businesses with their nonsense.

    If you're looking for people against free speech, go visit the PC Brigade in After Hours.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    I'm all for free speech and I wish we had it guaranteed in our constitution, like they do in America. What gave you the impression that I'm against it?

    These people are scaremongering with pseudo-scientific nonsense and they are consistently inaccurate, so someone should be held liable for the damages they cost. I'm not asking for them to go to prison or anything, just to pay for the losses they cost businesses with their nonsense.

    I wouldn't keep company with PC folk - calling for censorship is saying you've lost the debate.


    I guess the notion of ordinary Joes making inaccurate weather forecasts paying for the consequences of other folk acting on them is as clear an attack on free speech as I can imagine!

    I'd prefer Mystic Meg or Pat the Postman to a bunch of lawyers any day, especially in the context of what certain billionaires are doing in Ireland to clamp down on free speech.

    But that is a very different issue to long term forecasts!

    I'm going to change my name to Infallible Forecaster and predict that anyone shopping in Tesco next week will cause the wettest and coldest July since 1816.

    Sue me! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    delahuntv wrote: »
    Here we go - the most famous of all long range forecasters has spoken! :)

    From Irish Times -

    Donegal postman Michael Gallagher is saying all signs indicate we have a very good summer ahead.

    Mr Gallagher, who has developed his weather forecasting expertise during his more than 40 years of working as postman, says a cold May is a strong indicator of a nice summer. His predictions are based on the behaviour of the Donegal wildlife, he says.

    “Nature and animals are very knowledgeable, they know what’s going to happen with the weather,” said Mr Gallagher. “They have an instinct which we as human beings don’t have.”

    He says sheep and cattle tend to retreat down the mountains in search of shelter when a cold snap is on the way. He added that the cry of the curlew bird is a traditional sign that rain is on the cards.

    With no curlews audible and livestock exploring the upper plains of the Donegal hills, it looks like the good weather is here to stay, he says.

    However, he warns that hot weather will inevitably bring heavy downpours and plenty of thunder.
    That went well didn't it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    [...] From Irish Times -

    Donegal postman Michael Gallagher is saying all signs indicate we have a very good summer ahead. [...]

    Sorry to say - one device indicates opposite:

    356556.gif

    Please forgive me, couldn't resist. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    joujoujou wrote: »
    Sorry to say - one device indicates opposite:

    356556.gif

    Please forgive me, couldn't resist. :o

    How come the paper never goes back to him and asks the question "What the hell happened to our summer Michael"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    How come the paper never goes back to him and asks the question "What the hell happened to our summer Michael"

    I heard someone on here mention last week that he said were due a good August!
    WAshout so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    He should really stick to delivering the post, end of


  • Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭Alexis Sanchez


    I wouldn't keep company with PC folk - calling for censorship is saying you've lost the debate.


    I guess the notion of ordinary Joes making inaccurate weather forecasts paying for the consequences of other folk acting on them is as clear an attack on free speech as I can imagine!

    I'd prefer Mystic Meg or Pat the Postman to a bunch of lawyers any day, especially in the context of what certain billionaires are doing in Ireland to clamp down on free speech.

    But that is a very different issue to long term forecasts!

    I'm going to change my name to Infallible Forecaster and predict that anyone shopping in Tesco next week will cause the wettest and coldest July since 1816.

    Sue me! :D

    I think your problem is you're incapable of distinguishing the difference between censoring and suing - they are not the same thing. Unlike what happened to Ken Ring in New Zealand, I'm not advocating that the quacks should be censored, just that they and the tabloid newspapers are held financially responsible for the damage they've done to businesses with their pseudo-scientific weather forecasts. They can continue with their weather forecasts all they want, they just better be careful or else it cost them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    They can continue with their weather forecasts all they want, they just better be careful or else it cost them.

    Sounds like censorship to me. Protecting idiots from the consequences of their actions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lapua20grain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    * cancels trip to Donegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    at this rate guys predict a cold wet summer and youll be right mostly

    rest of august - cool and unsettled short warm spells
    september - the same
    october - 50 degrees
    farenheit!

    2015 will be the coldest year for at least 50 in Ireland even though ROW will have warmest on record! I think 1958 is the last year as cold as 2015


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    pauldry wrote: »
    2015 will be the coldest year for at least 50 in Ireland even though ROW will have warmest on record! I think 1958 is the last year as cold as 2015

    Its Creepy.

    Here in Seattle, where we normally have a climate very similar to Ireland, we've broken the record for days over 30 this year. The nights of the bedroom being 25 degs are getting wearying. Fans everywhere. Water spritzers in the fridge.

    No rain for...2 months? There was a day of drizzle a few weeks ago. There's massive fires in the mountains around the city too.

    And this is the second year like this. Practically no cold weather at all this winter, I can remember maybe five or six frosty mornings. total.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,962 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    pauldry wrote: »
    at this rate guys predict a cold wet summer and youll be right mostly

    rest of august - cool and unsettled short warm spells
    september - the same
    october - 50 degrees
    farenheit!

    2015 will be the coldest year for at least 50 in Ireland even though ROW will have warmest on record! I think 1958 is the last year as cold as 2015

    Have to admit we get the rough end of the stick almost every year compared to any other European country. Summer has the entire continent at 25-42C with Ireland and perhaps the western fringes of UK & Scotland struggling on 16C all summer.
    Winter see's a reverse of this with most of Europe and sometimes England, Scotland & Wales with plenty of snow and winter wonderland's while Ireland enjoys 13C, wind and mist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,539 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Have to admit we get the rough end of the stick almost every year compared to any other European country. Summer has the entire continent at 25-42C with Ireland and perhaps the western fringes of UK & Scotland struggling on 16C all summer.
    Winter see's a reverse of this with most of Europe and sometimes England, Scotland & Wales with plenty of snow and winter wonderland's while Ireland enjoys 13C, wind and mist.

    I have found the last few winters to be quite reasonable though, generally dry and often clearer than summer days.

    This is based on my daily commute involving cycling to and from Dart station and I can count the number of days I needed rain gear on one hand but the summer has been much worse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    murpho999 wrote:
    I have found the last few winters to be quite reasonable though, generally dry and often clearer than summer days.


    Spot on. I always find winter weather much more pleasant. More dry days, and although the sun doesn't shine for very long, I think we actually get to see the sun a lot more in winter.

    Statistics will probably prove us both wrong.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    Spot on. I always find winter weather much more pleasant. More dry days, and although the sun doesn't shine for very long, I think we actually get to see the sun a lot more in winter.

    Statistics will probably prove us both wrong.

    They probably will!

    But I think the East/West climate difference is becoming more pronounced in the past 5 to 10 years, perhaps in all seasons.

    Someone up there said "Ireland" was struggling to reach 16C in July - in fact the average here was 19C, only a degree below "normal".

    There is a bit of tension on related threads over this issue, which I think stems from some posters implying that their local weather represents "Ireland".

    If ones local experience is very different you wish (or certainly I do) to point that out. (And that would equally apply if the weather was worse here)

    So when we are summarising long term forecasts, or actual outcomes, we probably need to break the country into a few of the main climatic sub-zones.

    Even if there are only two with a transitional area at the boundary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    true

    the august temperatures have been 2.2c below normal in the west so far but only 0.5c below normal in the East

    Summer has been 1.8c below normal in the west but just under a degree below normal in the east

    Id say Northwest gets the roughest deal as its cold and misty even though West and South are wetter

    Dublin Casement and Pheonix Park are hitting 19 and 20c regularly this Summer

    Sligo has hit 20c 3 times.

    Maybe 4 tomorrow


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    pauldry wrote: »
    Id say Northwest gets the roughest deal as its cold and misty even though West and South are wetter

    It's not all bad though.

    For a snow lover like me (and I'd trade August '95 for December '10 every time) - I was green with envy as you reported endless snow falling, lying and blizzarding all through last winter. :(


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