Are you still using turf?

Are you still bringing home the turf?[/quote]


Brought them down this evening.
240 bags , bog and cutting €190.

Definitely not, a trailer of logs and about €350 of kerosene with them heats my 1800 Sq foot house for the year

47% of peatlands in Ireland have already been destroyed by peat extraction

Cut away, but surely if we keep going it'll all be gone sooner or later?

This is starting to sound vaguely like climate change denial.

jem wrote: »

By any chance is the amount of peat for grow bags etc that is being shipped out of the country every day and also being sold so the nice people in nice houses can have their nice flowers doing more damage to the bogs than locals cuting turf for the fire.
Somehow I would sugest the former is far more damaging than the latter

Those that are going to be affected, say under fifties, aren't taking climate change serious so why should I (over 65) The turf stove will be kept here.
Majority of people are not taking CC serious, I'm afraid we ye are heading into a dark hole

Graces7 wrote: »

and as for the bogs becoming some kind of sacred relic? They are there for us.

You could say that about the rainforests, overfished seas, etc. They're not only there for us.

Graces7 wrote: »

and as for the bogs becoming some kind of sacred relic? They are there for us.

Won't someone think of the kids?

It's this exact mentality that has the world in the state that it is.

Ush1 wrote: »

This is starting to sound vaguely like climate change denial.

Whatever happened to ''Global Warming'' it was all the rage a few years ago, not forgetting ''The Hole in Ozone Layer'' who, I often wonder, filled that in;)
Today's buzz word is ''Climate Change'' It has become a form of religion to many now that they have turned away from the church and woe betide anyone who questions these climate religious zealots, to them being in any way doubtful not to mention denying what they preach is tantamount to heresy........ but this fad will pass too in the fullness of time.
Anyone with a ounce of common sense knows that the very nature of climate is that it's continuously evolving and changing, it never ever stands still. Some small changes we may notice in our lifetime, but most take thousands of years. The great freeze now known as the 'Ice Age' did not happen overnight not did the great thaw that followed.....What caused this great freeze over 12,000 years ago and what caused it to gradually thaw ??? What caused the 'Little Ice Age' which lasted from 1350 to 1850 approx. The Little Ice Age' was preceded by the 'Medieval Warm Period'
Cause & effect ??
Planet earth is but a tiny speck amongst millions & trillions of planets, moons, suns etc. etc. Human activity on our planet has miniscule long term effect but our planet has within it the power to self destruct. Also there's always the remote possibility that another wayward planet or giant falling star could crash into us and wipe out life on earth as we know it or cause it to completely disintegrate.

monseiur wrote: »

Whatever happened to ''Global Warming'' it was all the rage a few years ago, not forgetting ''The Hole in Ozone Layer'' who, I often wonder, filled that in;)
Today's buzz word is ''Climate Change'' It has become a form of religion to many now that they have turned away from the church and woe betide anyone who questions these climate religious zealots, to them being in any way doubtful not to mention denying what they preach is tantamount to heresy........ but this fad will pass too in the fullness of time.
Anyone with a ounce of common sense knows that the very nature of climate is that it's continuously evolving and changing, it never ever stands still. Some small changes we may notice in our lifetime, but most take thousands of years. The great freeze now known as the 'Ice Age' did not happen overnight not did the great thaw that followed.....What caused this great freeze over 12,000 years ago and what caused it to gradually thaw ??? What caused the 'Little Ice Age' which lasted from 1350 to 1850 approx. The Little Ice Age' was preceded by the 'Medieval Warm Period'
Cause & effect ??
Planet earth is but a tiny speck amongst millions & trillions of planets, moons, suns etc. etc. Human activity on our planet has miniscule long term effect but our planet has within it the power to self destruct. Also there's always the remote possibility that another wayward planet or giant falling star could crash into us and wipe out life on earth as we know it or cause it to completely disintegrate.

The name was changed from global warming to climate change because some people were to stupid to comprehend the former. As in, it was snowing in December, therefore "global warming me bollox". And as warming global temperatures effect different places in unique ways and not just warming, it was a better all round name.



As for the little ice age, check it out on this graph. Check out where we are now.



Your last analogy is like saying there's no point in giving up smoking because you could get hit by a car. The earth and people will survive climate change, but it will unnecessarily fúck things up along the way and make everything harder. And this thread is about turf, some people seem to think it's banned or something. It's not. Burn away. Just leave the tiny percentage of bogs alone that Ireland agreed (not the EU) to, because there's almost none left. It's an endangered ecosystem, it's nothing to do with carbon emissions.

Graysen Chubby Spice wrote: »

That's the rub. And you are really generalising. I live in a rural area and have access to turf but have stopped digging it for ethical reasons. There are countless thousands of people who live in rural areas who no longer resort to turf for heating their homes and this includes pensioners. This is not an urban rural issue but one that centres on destruction of a unique habitat.

Can I ask wht you hear your house with then that is ethically sourced that doesn't damage habitat

Graces7 wrote: »

"My" fuel this winter will if all goes well, cost under E150. I am very careful needfully. Cost matters to many of us. the difference between any comfort in winter and being constantly cold. turf it is .

You should be getting fuel allowance



"This year it will run from the 1st October 2018 to Friday 12th April 2019 .

Payments will begin in the first week of October and it will be paid on the same day as your usual pension

The Fuel Allowance payment is €22.50 a week

That is a total payment of € 630 over the 28 weeks."


If you want you can get it one lump sum of € 315 at the start another lump sum of € 315 in January

Here is the form to get the payment in two lump sums :

http://www.welfare.ie/en/pdf/FA_CPF1.pdf

That CPF 1 form should be in your post office too




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You're dead right, the way civil servants are running this country is unsustainable, politicians are only going to be here a short while, civil servants don't have to take responsibility for anything,
The problems associated with burning turf will pale in significance when the mess of poor management of this country comes to a head.
The only thing this country will do for climate change is impose Carbon Tax and unfortunately they'll take it off those least able to afford it.
To be at what they're at, cicvil servants mst be insulated from reality and unfortunately they are pulling up the ladder after them