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The Mega MK7 & MK8 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread - Part II

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  • #102
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    Neilw wrote: »
    A 3 door maybe as they are finished, TCR in 3 door would be the very last real Gti imo.

    They'd be rare too. There are only two 3-door TCRs for sale on AutoTrader.


  • #103
    Casati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Casati


    Agree, if I was getting one I’d much prefer a 3 foot hot hatch. Surprising that so many people who didn’t have kids or need the practicality paid an extra grand for the five door

    Wonder if the new A3 will be three door?


  • #104
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    Casati wrote: »
    Agree, if I was getting one I’d much prefer a 3 foot hot hatch. Surprising that so many people who didn’t have kids or need the practicality paid an extra grand for the five door

    Wonder if the new A3 will be three door?

    It may sound odd but I'd probably only go for a 3-door if it was something special like a Clubsport or TCR.

    The new A3 is 5-door and saloon only I believe. I don't think there will be a convertible.


  • #105
    Neilw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭Neilw


    Casati wrote: »
    Agree, if I was getting one I’d much prefer a 3 foot hot hatch. Surprising that so many people who didn’t have kids or need the practicality paid an extra grand for the five door

    Wonder if the new A3 will be three door?

    There are no more 3 door cars based on the mqb platform, sad but true.


  • #106
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    VW seem to be going mad with R variants, the facelifted Tiguan will now be available in R form too:

    New%20Volkswagen%20Tiguan%20facelift%202020-16.jpg

    New%20Volkswagen%20Tiguan%20facelift%202020-17.jpg

    New%20Volkswagen%20Tiguan%20facelift%202020-28.jpg


  • #107
    pad199207
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    bazz26 wrote: »
    VW seem to be going mad with R variants, the facelifted Tiguan will now be available in R form too:

    New%20Volkswagen%20Tiguan%20facelift%202020-16.jpg

    New%20Volkswagen%20Tiguan%20facelift%202020-17.jpg

    New%20Volkswagen%20Tiguan%20facelift%202020-28.jpg

    Hardly any difference to the current model


  • #108
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    Is it just me or does the DSG lever look a bit Skoda-esque?


  • #109
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Hardly any difference to the current model

    Apart from the engine.


  • #110
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Ryder Yummy File wrote: »
    Apart from the engine.

    And the entire front and interior.


  • #111
    Spencer Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    The Tiguan was a smart looking thing and those tweaks have only improved it. It's suited to being an R model too because that line isn't about out and out sportiness, more effortless power.


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  • #112
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Those wheels look savage. I think the Tiguan looked ok without the R-Line kit on it but you'd want nicer wheels than the Highline ones as they're a bit small.

    The R doesn't look bad at all.


  • #113
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    it looks class. but im going to assume its going to be ball park 70k if not more? given the troc r was 50+


  • #114
    Spencer Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    shanec1928 wrote: »
    it looks class. but im going to assume its going to be ball park 70k if not more? given the troc r was 50+

    I'd imagine circa 62-63k. Arteon R is supposedly going to be close to 70k so it will need to come in a good bit under that.


  • #115
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The smaller and cheaper T-Roc R costs 60k here and even the Skoda Kodiaq vRS which is diesel, is around 60k here so your not going to have much change from 75k for a Tiguan R here I'd say - if they even bother to offer it here. Arteon R pricing is not really relevant to the Tiguan R pricing either as they are aimed at different people.


  • #116
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Cupra Ateca is 50k here if you really want a 300hp petrol AWD SUV


  • #117
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    The engineers in the VW R&D Division must be having great fun designing all of the R cars.


  • #118
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    This thing actually really annoys me. They are doing all these fast suvs, with stupid price tags, but completely ignoring Small hot hatch segment. Only overpriced polo GTI. No more Ibiza Cupra or Fabia vrs.

    New Ibiza would have made fantastic hot hatch and at right price. I would be the first one in line to get one.


  • #119
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Mk8 Golf R breaking cover:

    Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20spyshots-2.jpg

    Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20spyshots-5.jpg

    Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20spyshots-9.jpg


  • #120
    maddness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Mk8 Golf R breaking cover:

    Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20spyshots-2.jpg

    Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20spyshots-5.jpg

    Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20spyshots-9.jpg

    That looks fantastic, love the seats too.


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  • #121
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Yeah that is seriously nice. Much better without those poxy foglights on the GTi.


  • #122
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Wailin wrote: »
    Yeah that is seriously nice. Much better without those poxy foglights on the GTi.

    Those fog lights make me sick. I have that weird fear of groups of small holes lol


  • #123
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,574 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    I always thought the mark 7 gti was better looking than the R but looking like the reverse for mark 8.


  • #124
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Thats one of those test mules, you can tell its got camouflage on the front - note the bits on the front bumper bolted on to make it look more like a MK7. The seats look the same as those revealed in the GTI... much better than the MK7 seats though alright.


  • #125
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    And now the hysteria of the mk8 has died down and people are now coming on board liking it. Happens every model :pac:


  • #126
    ILikeBoats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    Is it missing R badges?

    L-M wrote: »
    Those fog lights make me sick. I have that weird fear of groups of small holes lol
    Trypophobia!


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  • #127
    Austmcc
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Austmcc


    ShadowHearth wrote: »
    This thing actually really annoys me. They are doing all these fast suvs, with stupid price tags, but completely ignoring Small hot hatch segment. Only overpriced polo GTI. No more Ibiza Cupra or Fabia vrs.

    New Ibiza would have made fantastic hot hatch and at right price. I would be the first one in line to get one.


    Absolutely. Currently sitting in a seat dealer looking around and the sportiest car I can see from here is a 1.5tsi fr arona. Probably the closest you'll get to a fast ibiza for now and it's only 150bhp.

    I know theres a few leon cupras here but I cant see them.

    I'm not entirely sold on the new cupra leon in looks, but not that it matters. I don't have 40k.


  • #128
    Hebegeebee
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭Hebegeebee


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Thats one of those test mules, you can tell its got camouflage on the front - note the bits on the front bumper bolted on to make it look more like a MK7. The seats look the same as those revealed in the GTI... much better than the MK7 seats though alright.

    Yep, definitely a test mule and with plenty of weight in the back too given how low it’s sitting at the rear. I like the seats but little else to be honest.
    ShadowHearth wrote:
    This thing actually really annoys me. They are doing all these fast suvs, with stupid price tags, but completely ignoring Small hot hatch segment. Only overpriced polo GTI. No more Ibiza Cupra or Fabia vrs.

    New Ibiza would have made fantastic hot hatch and at right price. I would be the first one in line to get one.

    I totally agree with you here but it’s a numbers game; people just were/are not buying the normal (non-SUV) small cars with even less again buying the hot hatch versions. People now want to sit higher up and it seems are willing to pay a premium for that. Add to that the drop in interior material quality (mainly plastics) and the removal of items found on previous generations in the lower end models and you can see where VW are clawing back their money from dieselgate. All you need do is look at the price difference between a Polo and the equivalent T-Roc and compare those interior materials and with those on an equivalent mk7. They’re cutting corners/costs everywhere and unfortunately small hot hatches are not immune either.


  • #129
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Hebegeebee wrote: »
    Yep, definitely a test mule and with plenty of weight in the back too given how low it’s sitting at the rear. I like the seats but little else to be honest.



    I totally agree with you here but it’s a numbers game; people just were/are not buying the normal (non-SUV) small cars with even less again buying the hot hatch versions. People now want to sit higher up and it seems are willing to pay a premium for that. Add to that the drop in interior material quality (mainly plastics) and the removal of items found on previous generations in the lower end models and you can see where VW are clawing back their money from dieselgate. All you need do is look at the price difference between a Polo and the equivalent T-Roc and compare those interior materials and with those on an equivalent mk7. They’re cutting corners/costs everywhere and unfortunately small hot hatches are not immune either.

    The way I see it, those people who interested in compact hot hatches, will have no interest in suv cars. Same thing the other way around, but there is market for it. When I got my ibiza cupra, dealer said, that they sold lots of them. It was a very popular choice. The spec, price, performance was just perfectly balanced. It was so weird to see Seat axe it. They even discontinued ibiza FR 1.5tsi 150hp. Yes, they kept Arona 1.5tsi, but i have zero interest in ibiza on stilts. Even if it would be proper Arona cupra, I still would not be interested.

    You are dead on with T-roc. When checking specs and a few reviews, I noticed how they cut corners. VW was always a bit up market to Seat and Skoda, but not its as plasticity as those brands, but with VW premium price tag.


  • #130
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭User1998


    Saw a mk8 out in the open today


  • #131
    what the hell!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭what the hell!


    User1998 wrote: »
    Saw a mk8 out in the open today

    Yeesh... Not for me anyway. And why would you voluntarily choose that colour!


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  • #132
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    It’s just too expensive. Leon or Focus a far better value but


  • #133
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    That colour certainly doesn't complement it.


  • #134
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    New Octavia RS announced:

    Skoda%20Octavia%20vRS%20petrol%20and%20diesel%202020-3.jpg

    Skoda%20Octavia%20vRS%20petrol%20and%20diesel%202020-2.jpg

    Getting more expensive too with each new generation. Shame they carried over those alloy wheels from the previous model.


  • #135
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Similar design but not the same.

    I actually like those wheels, I think they’re trademark of the VRS


  • #136
    Killinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Wow they don't even bother trying to hide the fake exhaust tips in the press photos anymore!


  • #137
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    The back of the RS looks a lot like the M235i GC. It doesn't look great in pictures but probably looks better in person.


  • #138
    IrishHomer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    what the hell! wrote: »
    Yeesh... Not for me anyway. And why would you voluntarily choose that colour!

    To be different and stand out from the crowd.


  • #139
    Hebegeebee
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭Hebegeebee


    I didn’t think they could possibly make the Octavia look any worse than the previous facelift model, but they have outdone themselves; truly awful!!


  • #140
    maddness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    bazz26 wrote: »
    New Octavia RS announced:

    Skoda%20Octavia%20vRS%20petrol%20and%20diesel%202020-3.jpg

    Skoda%20Octavia%20vRS%20petrol%20and%20diesel%202020-2.jpg

    Getting more expensive too with each new generation. Shame they carried over those alloy wheels from the previous model.

    Not exactly a looker


  • #141
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    I don't know lads I think its a fine looking car.


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  • #142
    Comhrá
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    The new regular Octavia is certainly a big improvement over the old, style-wise imo.

    OCTAVIA_003-2-1440x960.jpg

    octavia_051.jpg?scale=down

    1632742.jpg?w=1680&ssl=1


  • #143
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Yeah I’d be if the same opinion, think it’s a smashing looking car.


  • #144
    dakar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭dakar


    I think there’s a trend in VAG design lately where the curve of the leading edge of the bonnet as it drops down to the grille has become more bulbous. See the Golf, Octavia, A5.

    I don’t know if it’s an aerodynamic thing, or maybe a pedestrian protection thing, but to my eyes, it makes the nose look a bit droopy, apologetic even. Compare the bonnet line in those cars to the Leon, which is much flatter all the way to the grille and looks much sharper and more aggressive. I know which I prefer the look of.


  • #145
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Maybe I'm just wearing beer goggles but I don't think that Octavia is a bad looking car at all. It's certainly the best looking generation of Octavia to date imo.


  • #146
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    I think that octavia is very nice and a big improvement over the previous model.


  • #147
    maddness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    The navy blue car looks good but the red vrs is awful, I think it’s the wheels. They would make any car look worse.


  • #148
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    maddness wrote: »
    The navy blue car looks good but the red vrs is awful, I think it’s the wheels. They would make any car look worse.

    VRS wheels never looked good to me, apart from that the new model is good looking.


  • #149
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Problem with the VRS is that the Octavia on a wider level is moving towards a Superb type style.

    The sporty image a VRs is after - struggles with this. So you've got a VRS that looks like a "Sportline" version of the normal Octy.

    The normal Octavia looks great now and the rear end of the estate looks great now.

    Maybe the Estate is the direction the Vrs works best in now????


  • #150
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I think that new VRS looks great too. Certainly a massive improvement on the current car with those awful split headlights.


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  • #151
    theintern
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭theintern


    User1998 wrote: »
    Saw a mk8 out in the open today

    Spotted one on the road while out walking in silver. I think it looks better than the base MK7 looked, but it's a bit too expensive for what it is.

    That said, I think the GTI and R will look good in person.


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