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Selling a used car in Ireland guide

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    A dealer offered me 10k for my focus 08, good deal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Mc Love wrote: »
    A dealer offered me 10k for my focus 08, good deal?


    What was the price of the car you were interested in buying from the dealer compared to similar cars elsewhere?

    Trade-in prices can vary and be distorted to look very favorable if the price of the car you are buying is distorted too. The important figure to focus on is the cost to trade up price. You really need to find a similar car from another dealer and see what their cost to trade up price is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    bazz26 wrote: »
    What was the price of the car you were interested in buying from the dealer compared to similar cars elsewhere?

    Trade-in prices can vary and be distorted to look very favorable if the price of the car you are buying is distorted too. The important figure to focus on is the cost to trade up price. You really need to find a similar car from another dealer and see what their cost to trade up price is.

    The only similar car elsewhere is the UK meaning I'd have to sell privately and probably not get the same offer. Car I'm interested in is 22950 mondeo Titanium x 2011


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭MarthaMyDear


    This has probably been asked already but is it ok for them to take the log book if they're a trader and have let you take a copy of their license etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    This has probably been asked already but is it ok for them to take the log book if they're a trader and have let you take a copy of their license etc?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Kop On


    When people say, make sure they are insured before they take your car for a drive. How exactly are people doing this?

    Checking driving licence and confirming its in date etc and asking them to bring a copy of their insurance cert is it?

    Even by doing this there's no guarantee the insurance hasn't lapsed... Is that just part of the risk you take?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Chances are, they'd only have 3rd party cover too on other cars. Risk you take I spose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Trading a car in - do I still send off the logbook? Just asking because on the form it says if selling to a dealer there is another (dealer) form that needs to be filled in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Trading a car in - do I still send off the logbook? Just asking because on the form it says if selling to a dealer there is another (dealer) form that needs to be filled in.

    You give the dealer the logbook and fill out an RF105 (or online equivelant)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭MarthaMyDear


    No.

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Why?

    Read my post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭MarthaMyDear


    Read my post

    I did, several times. It just says not to do it. Anyway the trader I sold it to sold my car and let me know when he had filled out the log book for the new owner and I confirmed it is no longer in my name so all sorted!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    I did, several times. It just says not to do it. Anyway the trader I sold it to sold my car and let me know when he had filled out the log book for the new owner and I confirmed it is no longer in my name so all sorted!

    at least he was daycent in that respect, but it still does not negate the chances that when the car was out of your posession and still in your name, that you are liable for speeding fine, tolls, parking tickets - but you'll know that over the coming weeks if you get any. Thats why its important to inform shannon that the car in no longer in your ownership.


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭eenm


    Great post, thanks! Very helpful.

    What would you think would add more to a sale - scratched alloys or brand new hub caps? Or which would take more off a sale!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    eenm wrote: »
    Great post, thanks! Very helpful.

    What would you think would add more to a sale - scratched alloys or brand new hub caps? Or which would take more off a sale!

    That depends on whether the car actually came with alloys day one or whether or not they're aftermarket alloys.

    If it's, say, a Zetec Focus that came with alloys from the factory, you wouldn't go taking the wheels off and putting on hubcaps, ie. down grading.

    If it was a bog standard Focus and had horrid, scratched aftermarket alloys, then a decent set of Ford hubcaps would look better.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭eenm


    That depends on whether the car actually came with alloys day one or whether or not they're aftermarket alloys.

    If it's, say, a Zetec Focus that came with alloys from the factory, you wouldn't go taking the wheels off and putting on hubcaps, ie. down grading.

    If it was a bog standard Focus and had horrid, scratched aftermarket alloys, then a decent set of Ford hubcaps would look better.

    Thanks, that helps. I got it second hand but would doubt they came with the car. Most are fine but front passenger wheel has taken a few knocks in its time. Will pick up a new set of hub caps, thank you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    eenm wrote: »
    Thanks, that helps. I got it second hand but would doubt they came with the car. Most are fine but front passenger wheel has taken a few knocks in its time. Will pick up a new set of hub caps, thank you!

    You do realize that the hubcaps won't go on over the alloys? You'll have to change the wheels to steel wheels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭eenm


    You do realize that the hubcaps won't go on over the alloys? You'll have to change the wheels to steel wheels.

    I was going to write some sort of a uhhhh yeah of course message but the reality is that I did not. Thankfully this thread lets me learn good. New tyres is a big expense... Scratched alloys it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    eenm wrote: »
    I was going to write some sort of a uhhhh yeah of course message but the reality is that I did not. Thankfully this thread lets me learn good. New tyres is a big expense... Scratched alloys it is!

    Not only new tyres but you would have to change the wheels, too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    Anyone know what the fuel consumption is like in a Mercedes R-Class? 07'-08'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Looking to sell my Honda Accord shortly. What are the scams to look out for. I've heard people getting dodgy bank drafts etc.

    Edit: looked at first post.....thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Putting my Focus up for sale in the next 2 weeks.

    What websites are best for coverage besides the donedeal/adverts.ie and carzone obvious ones ?

    Thanks guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    carzone, it's only a fiver these days afaik. Adverts is generally a waste of time unless you like getting offered stupid things to swap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    One more question.

    Would it be worth putting car back to standard to sell it off faster ?

    As it stands it has a brand new 1k aftermarket exhaust system with a sports cat
    Remap handset (resellable for 300e or so)
    Upgraded FMIC
    20mm spacers

    Might get 800e for sports cat/cat back/spacers and handset if I went that way would leave FMIC and springs on the car.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    One more question.

    Would it be worth putting car back to standard to sell it off faster ?

    .

    yes, you'll not get any extra for the extras


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Most certainly worth while removing them, as long as you're not buying the standard parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭almostover


    Selling my old car at the moment for smallish money and am sh*tless about getting done by counterfeit cash. Where can those markers used in shops be purchased?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Meet them at a bank or atm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Will they check the cash for you at a teller though, as must places insist now you lodge through the machines.

    Also +1 for one of those little pens to check for duds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I would imagine the machines would check for duds also?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    I would imagine the machines would check for duds also?

    I would rather a teller check them tbh :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I would rather a teller check them tbh :p

    A machine would probably be much better and once it's lodged who cares lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭LizardKing


    Have put my car up on carzone , adverts and donedeal and have had very little interest.

    It's a 2004 hyundai coupe with NCT and TAX upto Jan 2015.

    Any tips or pointers on this one lads? here / here / here

    I've bumped price down from €3250 but still not much biting?

    Thanks

    LK


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    LizardKing wrote: »
    Have put my car up on carzone , adverts and donedeal and have had very little interest.

    It's a 2004 hyundai coupe with NCT and TAX upto Jan 2015.

    Any tips or pointers on this one lads? here / here / here

    I've bumped price down from €3250 but still not much biting?

    Thanks

    LK

    Personally I'd de-pixelate the reg for starters - I don't even look at cars where I can't see the reg. You could be cutting out a lot of potential buyers. No reason whatsoever to hide the reg of a car.

    I'd price at €2900 ono also to get in under the €3k mark.

    Finally I'm not sure if that petrol cap surround thing is standard but it doesn't look great (imo). I'd remove it if possible.

    It's had a fair few owners for a car with 54k miles, what's the craic there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭LizardKing


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Personally I'd de-pixelate the reg for starters - I don't even look at cars where I can't see the reg. You could be cutting out a lot of potential buyers. No reason whatsoever to hide the reg of a car.

    I'd price at €2900 ono also to get in under the €3k mark.

    Finally I'm not sure if that petrol cap surround thing is standard but it doesn't look great (imo). I'd remove it if possible.

    It's had a fair few owners for a car with 54k miles, what's the craic there?

    Thanks for the feedback .. will take it on-board .. I bought it from a garage and was the 4th owner I believe. Given the usual spiel that it was owned by 3 nun's who never drove it etc.

    The petrol cap is standard I believe .. I got it like that anyways.

    I will also de-pixelate the reg as suggested

    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 unwinding


    Just a quick question - I seem to be moving to UK within a month, and the question is what to do with the wheels.. I need it for moving, but I will have to either register it over there or sell it over here afterwards. The question is, how long would that take?

    Is there any life in the second-hand car market?

    I have a 2000 Volkswagen Passat (Estate) 1.9 TDI, around 120K miles on the clock, taxed till september, passed NCT in April.. I would ask at least 1800 for it, it's in good running order with no hitches, timing belt has been done about 40K mls ago, tyres are fairly new, battery new.. It would makes so much sense to sell this here and buy another one over there, but where I'm going (in the sticks!) I will need a car from day one.

    Any suggestions?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    unwinding wrote: »
    Just a quick question - I seem to be moving to UK within a month, and the question is what to do with the wheels.. I need it for moving, but I will have to either register it over there or sell it over here afterwards. The question is, how long would that take?

    Is there any life in the second-hand car market?

    I have a 2000 Volkswagen Passat (Estate) 1.9 TDI, around 120K miles on the clock, taxed till september, passed NCT in April.. I would ask at least 1800 for it, it's in good running order with no hitches, timing belt has been done about 40K mls ago, tyres are fairly new, battery new.. It would makes so much sense to sell this here and buy another one over there, but where I'm going (in the sticks!) I will need a car from day one.

    Any suggestions?


    Its easy to re reg her over there on uk plates. Fill out the forms, a small admin fee, get new reg, screw on new plates, and off down to the local mot station for a new ticket. You know the car, will continue to get value out of it, and youll not be car less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 HappieChappie


    almostover wrote: »
    Selling my old car at the moment for smallish money and am sh*tless about getting done by counterfeit cash. Where can those markers used in shops be purchased?

    Its more the counterfeit bank drafts id be looking out for. Just read in the local paper there were four in Cork over the weekend

    Think everyone who is selling or buying should read the press release on the garda website through that before doing a deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It really is crazy to accept a bank draft that you have not verified with the issuing bank beforehand.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12 HappieChappie


    bazz26 wrote: »
    It really is crazy to accept a bank draft that you have not verified with the issuing bank beforehand.

    Exactly I know people are anxious to sell a car so they can trade up but if you asked them to take a check they'd run a mile but taking a draft without making sure its genuine is just daft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I read today that out of 79 cars that were bought with dodgey bank drafts all but one were recovered, so there is light at the end of the tunnel. Although, you still don't want your car "stolen".

    If these criminals knew the figures, hopefully they might stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I read today that out of 79 cars that were bought with dodgey bank drafts all but one were recovered, so there is light at the end of the tunnel. Although, you still don't want your car "stolen".

    If these criminals knew the figures, hopefully they might stop.

    Er, don't they still sell them to some poor sod and run off with the money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Er, don't they still sell them to some poor sod and run off with the money?

    Whoops! Forgot about that side of it :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    That's ok, this is the guide to selling!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 sebanwo


    HI guys Can I sell car which I bought 2 months ago? is there any period before resell car? Sorry but i was looking everywhere and cant find it and heard that can do only after 3 months


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Really useful guide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    sebanwo wrote: »
    HI guys Can I sell car which I bought 2 months ago? is there any period before resell car? Sorry but i was looking everywhere and cant find it and heard that can do only after 3 months

    You can sell it no problem, you own it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,991 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    sebanwo wrote: »
    HI guys Can I sell car which I bought 2 months ago? is there any period before resell car? Sorry but i was looking everywhere and cant find it and heard that can do only after 3 months

    Potential buyers might start asking questions as to why you are selling a car after only 2 months.

    There might be a genuine reason, but to a buyer it might set off alarm bells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Should you insist on seeing cash before a test drive so as to avoid test pilots etc or would that be a no no? Also, proof of insurance, aren't most open drive policies third party for driving other cars or what's the story there. What sort of distance should you let someone drive on a test drive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Test pilots generally are only drawn to certain type cars, usually something rare or felted up. If it's a average joe type car then I don't think the exposure is as high. From a buyer's point of view I doubt anyone genuine on the initial inspection of the car is going to have thousands in notes on them. They will more than likely have a few cars to see before making up their mind and then bringing a mechanic and concluding the sale. Maybe on cheap cars it is possible that they have bunch of notes in their pocket with the offer of I'll take it away now for €xxx but on cars worth thousands I'd doubt it.

    But like everything there are always time wasters and messers out there no matter what your buying/selling. You just need to be savy in spotting them and as soon as you realise they have no intention of buying you need to cut them loose usually by telling them that there is another interested buyer that you are heading out to meet.

    Insurance is tricky, without verifying with their insurance company that they have cover then I would make sure they only take the car for a short spin (you accompanying them in the passenger seat of course).


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