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Apollo house mk2 - 35 Summerhill Parade?

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    #92
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Not done quickly enough.


    George Wallace said it in '68, and it's as true then as it is now.
    They need to get a damn job.



    wow, really shows you how their tactics against trump really haven't changed much


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    #93
    GGTrek
    Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭GGTrek


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »

    But there is the prohibition on the forcible entry and occupation of dwellings legislation:

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1971/act/25/enacted/en/html

    The problem is that the Gardai don't really want to get involved, and seem to have only been involved here because there was a high anticipation that they would be needed to keep the peace.
    Now you really hit the nail in the head. Garda tries to avoid doing its duty unless is forced by a court to do it. Garda will rarely act in crimes against property unless they involve bodily harm against a person. This is a very slippery slope and one of the reason landlords or property owners in general in Ireland have little state protection for their properties.
    However I want to thank the poster about the John Ward case and how to deal with these hard left thugs (this is exactly what they are) if they come knocking to my property door in central Dublin while I am there (they are currently knocking doors of lots of properties in Dublin 1 and planning further squats).


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    #94
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    they've gone and blocked traffic and put the north city to a standstill, hopefully the new Garda commissioner will start a 0 tolerance policy against these thugs.


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    #95
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Id be tempted to go on a counter protest. Socialists like talking about the silent majority, but only when they believe that the silent majority are on their side!


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    #96
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Commanchie wrote: »
    The home owner didnt do it. The police involved a unit that are not AGS.
    The landlord hired people to evict the trespassers.
    SortingYouOut wrote: »
    I think it's ridiculous that our own police force stood by while plain clothed men in ski masks did their job for them.
    Is it the job of the Gardai to evict people?


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    #97
    4ensic15
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    Commanchie wrote: »
    The high court does not Sentence on Contempt. DPP offers summary disposals on guilty pleas in the district court on all contempt charges.
    In this article there is a reference to a man who is under threat of a 3 week sentence for contempt from a High Court judge. You know nothing about it.
    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/farming-news/farming-community-unites-in-protest-of-forced-sale-of-family-farm-online-by-vulture-fund-37309082.html


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    #98
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    the_syco wrote: »
    The landlord hired people to evict the trespassers.


    Is it the job of the Gardai to evict people?

    No. It does not appear an application was made for a warrant to arrest any of the occupiers. The garda would need a warrant to arrest. That would not amount to an eviction as they would have no role in securing the premises after removing occupiers by way of arrest.


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    #99
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    I'm not so sure that they are committing trespass under the public order act, which requires an element of causing fear. Probably gives enough wiggle room for an unoccupied house.

    .

    Fear is only a requirement under Section 19. There is another section which covers the situation.
    The guards charged a guy in this case but it was for burglary which didn't stick.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/squatter-sets-up-home-in-nama-ghost-estate-170799.html
    The guards bring charges when it is easy


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    #100
    ShaneC93
    Registered Users Posts: 268 ✭✭ShaneC93


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    I'm not so sure that they are committing trespass under the public order act, which requires an element of causing fear. Probably gives enough wiggle room for an unoccupied house.

    But there is the prohibition on the forcible entry and occupation of dwellings legislation:

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1971/act/25/enacted/en/html

    The problem is that the Gardai don't really want to get involved, and seem to have only been involved here because there was a high anticipation that they would be needed to keep the peace.

    I'm curious to know if we have something similar to what the UK use as an excuse to evict people who occupy / break into places when it could be hard to do so for the act itself.

    The UK frequently classify them as criminal and will arrest the perpetrators if they steal anything - including power / light / heat. So they occupy a property, fine, it's a civil matter but if they turn on the lights, plug in appliances, charge devices etc. then suddenly it's a crime and they can be arrested.

    Given the Takebackthecity crowd have been asking for donations of light bulbs, kettles, microwaves, blenders, sandwich makers etc. they must be using the power in the properties they occupy.


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