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N21 - Abbeyfeale [route options published]

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  • 05-01-2018 6:03pm
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    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Funding within TII's 2018 allocations for a relief road around Abbeyfeale (and Newcastlewest).

    It's disappointing that this is going ahead as a single carriageway as a 2+2 road from Rathkeale to Abbeyfeale would be justified.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭billbond4


    marno21 wrote: »
    Funding within TII's 2018 allocations for a relief road around Abbeyfeale (and Newcastlewest).

    It's disappointing that this is going ahead as a single carriageway as a 2+2 road from Rathkeale to Abbeyfeale would be justified.
    Still great news, nenagh has same and it used to be a nightmare for traffic its a lot better with the relief road


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Middle Man


    marno21 wrote: »
    Funding within TII's 2018 allocations for a relief road around Abbeyfeale (and Newcastlewest).

    It's disappointing that this is going ahead as a single carriageway as a 2+2 road from Rathkeale to Abbeyfeale would be justified.
    I think these N21 relief roads are stopgap measures in similar fashion to the relief roads at both Mitchelstown (former N8) and Enfield (former N4). I'd like to see an eventual M21 to at least as far as Newcastlewest.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Middle Man wrote: »
    I think these N21 relief roads are stopgap measures in similar fashion to the relief roads at both Mitchelstown (former N8) and Enfield (former N4). I'd like to see an eventual M21 to at least as far as Newcastlewest.
    Perhaps you are right. There's a good few new schemes reactivated but a lot of the old big ticket dual carriageways/motorways near population centres, that would tie into an existing section of dual carraigeway/motorway, not bypassing much but giving capacity enhancement, have been left out (N17 Tuam-Claremorris, N21 Abbeyfeale-Adare, N22 Macroom-Ovens, N25 Midleton-Youghal, N71 Cork-Inishannon)


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N4 Mullingar to Roosky will be out in the next couple of days for Phases 1 to 4.

    Consultants have been appointed for the N21 Abbeyfeale and Newcastle West Bypasses

    Consultants appointed to progress this feckless scheme through Phases 1-4 of TII's Project Management Guidelines.

    The only saving grace would be if it were built as 2+2 along the proposed corridor for the Abbeyfeale-Rathkeale dual carriageway. Otherwise, it is a total waste of resources.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Scheme website launched @ http://n21abbeyfeale.ie/

    To me, the best solution here would be a short 2+2 from the N21 Abbeyfeale-Castleisland scheme at Kilkinlea to somewhere east of Abbeyfeale. A similar approach between the end of the M21 at Rathkeale to around Barnagh would leave a gap of around 12-14km which could be filled in at a later date and address the biggest problems with the N21. The Abbeyfeale-Newcastlewest section would be chronic with traffic and accidents but it's an improvement at present.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Route selection underway as per Radio Kerry

    https://www.radiokerry.ie/route-bypass-abbeyfeale-examined/


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Route options due in late Q1 2021 according to scheme website.

    Scheme is to be 8.5km of 2+2 expressway according to TII.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    https://www.radiokerry.ie/decision-route-abbeyfeale-bypass-expected-end-2021/

    Preferred route by end of 2021 according to Radio Kerry.

    This will surely go south of the town. Shorter and north of the town would require at least 3 river bridges.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Would the Northern route also have to cross the greenway?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Totally agree that this needs to be built in such a way that it can be grandfathered into the future Rathkeale-Abbeyfeale dualler. Since it's confirmed that this scheme here will be 2+2, it certainly seems like this is the plan.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Route options will be published on Monday 1st February, 2021.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭mastershake


    marno21 wrote: »
    https://www.radiokerry.ie/decision-route-abbeyfeale-bypass-expected-end-2021/

    Preferred route by end of 2021 according to Radio Kerry.

    This will surely go south of the town. Shorter and north of the town would require at least 3 river bridges.

    It's not really obvious what route can be selected by going south. There is a lot of one-off housing in this area. Hard the see a route through this area that doesn't require a lot of CPOs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Limerick74


    Virtual consultation room and shortlisted options now available on www.n21abbeyfeale.ie


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Green please. Direct routing well away from the town and will be useful when the rest of the N21 is inevitably going to be upgraded.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Blue, short and sweet.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Preferred route to be published next Tuesday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Limerick74


    Preferred route published https://n21abbeyfeale.ie/



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tender out for topographical surveys along the route.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    Here’s the preferred routes of both N21 schemes together.




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tender out for ground investigation for the route



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I didn't post this at the time but the route selection report was published for this last year.

    At this stage we are looking at 6.5km of Type 2 dual carriageway.


    https://n21abbeyfeale.ie/downloads-option-selection-report



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    April 2023 - Update on Surveys

    Ground Investigation Works nearing completion; The N21 Project Team would like to thank landowners and property holders for their ongoing co-operation and assistance during the recent Ground Investigations. The majority of works are due for completion in the coming weeks, although there will be some ongoing monitoring of standpipes over the next 12 months.

    Archaeology Geophysical Survey: This targeted survey has commenced and will inform where archaeological features could be found on the scheme. It is anticipated that this survey will be completed by the end of May 2023. 

    Noise Surveys due to commence in April/May 2022; Noise impacts will be assessed as part of the Environmental Impact Assessment process. Impacts on residences and communities due to noise will be minimised by avoiding houses and villages wherever possible, and where necessary, noise barriers such as earth bunds or fences may be proposed to mitigate the impact.

    The scheme will be required to comply with national standards on noise levels, and the design and construction of the scheme will be carried out in accordance with TII’s Environmental Assessment and Construction Guidelines. 

    To determine where mitigation is required, modelling of noise levels will be undertaken in accordance with TII Phase 3 (Design and Environmental Development) of project development. An initial assessment of the Route Options was undertaken at earlier stages in the project, and now detailed assessment can be undertaken of noise impacts along the Preferred Route Corridor.

    To develop the noise model, noise monitoring will be undertaken at various locations in the study area. The locations will be selected in-line with TII Noise Guidelines. Noise monitoring is not required at every dwelling house - the selected locations will be representative of the wider area and will be chosen based on a variety of factors and how representative they are of the surrounding area. The noise model will be checked against the results of these on-the-ground noise surveys to verify the accuracy of the model, allowing noise impacts to be determined along the full length of the route. The noise model will allow the project team to assess noise impacts at every dwelling in the study area. It will take into account traffic numbers, ground levels and the design of the proposed scheme.

    The noise model will allow the design team to determine the location, extent and type of noise mitigation required, and these measures will then be included in the scheme design. The Environmental Impact Assessment Report for the scheme will also include details of the noise impacts and the mitigation proposed.  


    The latest.



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