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Peintre Celebre · 21-08-2015 7:05pm #1

Competitive racing tomorrow. Three year old handicaps aren't really my thing but backed Botany Bay at 28/1 5 places e/w in the second at York. 8lbs above the mark that he won the Ulster Derby off but that was a nice performance and there was nothing flukey about it and the race is working out extremely well, beating Fields of Athenry into second, third won next time out off 6lbs higher (beating a horse who won a handicap by 4 lengths next time out)and the fourth won a really competitive handicap at Killarney last night (seventh won a handicap as well). The trainer said he'd be a nice stayer and had considered running him in the Queen's Vase so a step up in trip might see him even better yet and 25/1 still available looks worthy of a bet.

Another big price, Elm Park's half brother Brorocco ran much better than the bare result in a good looking Sandown maiden first time out, missing the break before travelling smoothly up to challenge on the bridle and wasn't knocked about when looking green. This is a massive step up but he could out run his odds in the second at Sandown 33/1 in a place generally 25/1

slaneylad · 21-08-2015 9:29pm

At last a good days racing, Mondialiste 2.00Y. Quick Jack 3.45Y , Coolmore 2.25 C, Finnegan 3.10Y will do for me

FLOOPER · 21-08-2015 9:35pm

Botany Bay 16 everywhere now. And Borocca now 18 with pp. cen fath?

REFLINE1 · 21-08-2015 9:50pm

FLOOPER wrote: »

Botany Bay 16 everywhere now. And Borocca now 18 with pp. cen fath?

Pricewise

Gringo180 · 21-08-2015 10:11pm

I fancy John Reel to run a big race in the Ebor. Cant believe he is 50/1. Only beat around 5 lengths by Ajman Bridge LTO (who is 10/1) and is 4lb better off with him. Plenty of value and will be backing each way. Just noticed he is also 6lbs better off with the fav Quick Jack who beat him around 5 lengths at Chester a few starts back.

PM me nudes · 21-08-2015 10:59pm

Plenty will be doing the Coolmore & Ballydoyle double :pac:

Finnegan, the horse Wesley Ward has been hyping up for months is interesting in a tricky race too

gazza1 · 21-08-2015 11:52pm

PRESBURG 2.50 sandown could be interesting at a big price. Currently 25/1. Hes a C&D winner off 85 and is off 81 for tomorrow but he was also entered to run in the 5.10 but instead of choosing the easier class 4 race has been put in the class 2 and is bottom weight.
Anyway its grabbed my attention
1pt ew @25/1

gazza1 · 22-08-2015 12:03am

2 more ive backed are

OCEAN TEMPEST 7/1 3.30 chester
Winner of the race last year off a 13lb higher mark. Is 3 from 3 at the track and has had a recent prep run.
2pts win

ISHIKAWA 14/1 4.35 sandown
C&D winner off 81 on soft ground and is off 68 for this race. Good to soft conditions for tomorrow which is more to his liking as hes been running on AW and gd/fm ground since that win
1pt ew

Gl with your bets

gazza1 · 22-08-2015 1:05am

Sorry but one more.!!

3.45 The Ebor
Lots of big Irish yards contesting the race but im going to have an ew from one of the smallest yards. John Kiely's TOE THE LINE 25/1. Yard has been very much amongst the winners lately and TTL has won on all kind of ground conditions from 1m 4f to 2m.
1pt ew

FLOOPER · 22-08-2015 3:04am

Sorry for my ignorance but what's pricewise?

BumperD · 22-08-2015 6:11am

Racing post tipping service. Buy the paper version tomorrow you'll see his tips. They go up online 8pm the night before for those paying. You can still get his price before they collapse in most shops before 10:15am today. Some follow him blindly and once he picks a horse, the prices quickly shorten. Ask others about his record /stats. Not sure they are published.

NewApproach · 22-08-2015 8:59am

BumperD wrote: »

Racing post tipping service. Buy the paper version tomorrow you'll see his tips. They go up online 8pm the night before for those paying. You can still get his price before they collapse in most shops before 10:15am today. Some follow him blindly and once he picks a horse, the prices quickly shorten. Ask others about his record /stats. Not sure they are published.

For good reason :rolleyes:

abarkie · 22-08-2015 10:09am

BumperD wrote: »

Racing post tipping service. Buy the paper version tomorrow you'll see his tips. They go up online 8pm the night before for those paying. You can still get his price before they collapse in most shops before 10:15am today. Some follow him blindly and once he picks a horse, the prices quickly shorten. Ask others about his record /stats. Not sure they are published.

Let's put it like this.

When they have a winner, it's on the front page and shouted about for weeks.

Otherwise, it gets brushed under the carpet.

The stats used to be published on a site I think called Tipsterform

Alternatively, you can look on the horse racing forum on Betfair, you wlll soon get the jist of people thought's about

Good luck

NewApproach · 22-08-2015 10:46am

Anyone who has the pick of all the prices at midday the previous day and isn't beating the market by minimum 15% needs a long hard look at themselves.

longshotvalue · 22-08-2015 10:53am

NewApproach wrote: »

Anyone who has the pick of all the prices at midday the previous day and isn't beating the market by minimum 15% needs a long hard look at themselves.

:rolleyes:

Anyone that thinks its that easy probably needs the same look. if you were beating the market by 15% regularly there would be no getting money on..

15% is about the MAX ROI from race betting thats feasible in the long-term..

shmeee · 22-08-2015 10:55am

3 e/w singles and e/w treble on the below. Fancy them all personally.

Also Sizing Network in Killarney 3.20 @ 5/2 will take beating.

Along with Most Beautiful w/o fav in the 4.10 Curragh @ 5/2.

Best of luck to all today.

votecounts · 22-08-2015 11:04am

Mountainside 13:55 Newton Abbott @11/8

shmeee · 22-08-2015 11:47am

shmeee wrote: »

Along with Most Beautiful w/o fav in the 4.10 Curragh @ 5/2.

I'd as much a chance of curing ebola as getting the 5/2 price in Ladbrokes, ended up getting 15/8 and they shouldn't be taking bets which are available on-line I was told. Only bookie I know to say this.

Knew going in I was gonna have trouble, and by god I did.

rule supreme · 22-08-2015 1:17pm

Will the ground suit Finnegan , is it not to soft for him .

madmoose · 22-08-2015 1:37pm

Ground is good at york now

krustydoyle · 22-08-2015 1:39pm

Top Notch Tonto 2.00 York for me also..

Max bet for me too

Peintre Celebre · 22-08-2015 1:42pm

Convey is the most promising horse I've seen in a long time just can't back it with the ground as it is

idnkph · 22-08-2015 1:57pm

What do people think about Wicklow brave today? I'm torn between him and fields of athenry..... Help!

I'm also having a good ew on give her Bach in the 2:45 at Killarney.

Harangue in the 4:30 kil looks too big a price at 12/1. Have a wee nibble on that too.

mailburner · 22-08-2015 2:13pm

idnkph wrote: »

What do people think about Wicklow brave today? I'm torn between him and fields of athenry..... Help!

I'm also having a good ew on give her Bach in the 2:45 at Killarney.

Harangue in the 4:30 kil looks too big a price at 12/1. Have a wee nibble on that too.

made the mistake of backing a few horse with bad draws and paid the price
the only reason i'm not backing fields of athenry

kalinisi · 22-08-2015 2:44pm

Is laying ballydoyle horses first time out in maidens a license to print money!

sdoc13 · 22-08-2015 2:52pm

kalinisi wrote: »

Is laying ballydoyle horses first time out in maidens a license to print money!

It is this year

sdoc13 · 22-08-2015 3:08pm

Small bet on Finnegan at the boosted Skybet 10/3 price.

sdoc13 · 22-08-2015 3:12pm

sdoc13 wrote: »

Small bet on Finnegan at the boosted Skybet 10/3 price.

Stink. Very impressive from the Haggas runner again.

kalinisi · 22-08-2015 3:14pm

sdoc13 wrote: »

It is this year

Wish I'd actually done it all year!

sdoc13 · 22-08-2015 3:18pm

kalinisi wrote: »

Wish I'd actually done it all year!

I would end up laying the winning ones only.

NewApproach · 22-08-2015 3:27pm

aidankkk wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Anyone that thinks its that easy probably needs the same look. if you were beating the market by 15% regularly there would be no getting money on..

15% is about the MAX ROI from race betting thats feasible in the long-term..

Who said anything about getting bets on? He writes an article based on the earliest of early prices and makes selections based on those.

Luap · 22-08-2015 3:28pm

Chilworth Icon just hosed up there!

boomtown84 · 22-08-2015 3:39pm

Obviously Aidan

(That O'Brien interview was cringeworthy)

PM me nudes · 22-08-2015 3:46pm

boomtown84 wrote: »

Obviously Aidan

Ah sure listen, he has plenty of speed, enough speed to win a July Cup. He's a very special horse, the lads will decide where to go next.

PM me nudes · 22-08-2015 3:51pm

Joseph Twit :pac:

STB. · 22-08-2015 4:04pm

Fair play to Joe Tuite. Some training performance. Shock result. Obviously not, it was 66/1 this morning.

diomed · 22-08-2015 4:41pm

William Haggas is in the run of his life. Five wins at York.
2015 2yo 23/70=33%; 2015 3yo 43/174=25%
He won the Gimcrack today so gets to give the Gimcrack speech. It should be interesting.

krustydoyle · 22-08-2015 4:43pm

Chancing a few quid on Promised Money 4.45 Curragh

shmeee · 22-08-2015 4:45pm

Another typical Saturday for me. Awful.

STB. · 22-08-2015 4:47pm

diomed wrote: »

William Haggas is in the run of his life. Five wins at York.
2015 2yo 23/70=33%; 2015 3yo 43/174=25%
He won the Gimcrack today so gets to give the Gimcrack speech. It should be interesting.

Graham Gibbons stats for Haggas on 5 and 6f horses is frightening.

The O'Brien interview was cringeworthy as someone else said already. And I would imagine there is more to it than just Joseph moving to Tullahought.....

HarshOstrich · 22-08-2015 4:53pm

Only noticed a horse in my tracker running at 4.55 York
Earth drummer
Really think this horse is well handicapped

mailburner · 22-08-2015 5:15pm

plenty of money for the deegan horse in the next, now 11/4
they rarely leave it behind in fairness

prescott with one in killarney, short odds but an obvious one (10/11)

shmeee · 22-08-2015 5:35pm

Back for more punishment

Blayney Queen ew in the 6.35 Perth, 8/1 or so.

Hopefully get me out today. Bit of a whisper about for it.

STB. · 22-08-2015 5:43pm

shmeee wrote: »

Back for more punishment

Blayney Queen ew in the 6.35 Perth, 8/1 or so.

Hopefully get me out today. Bit of a whisper about for it.

Massive gamble on Kirby's first time Kayf Tara mare in that one.

pudzy · 22-08-2015 6:27pm

you mean tara time 12/1 into 3/1 .. kirby horse, race best watched as value gone now . blaney should run well at that price,

BorneTobyWilde · 22-08-2015 6:57pm

Age of Innocence 12-1 7.15

In whats a weak field I'm liking this to run well and get off the mark.
1pt win

confused smu · 22-08-2015 9:09pm

Big outsider 40/1 secret of Dubai to grab a place 9.15... its doubtful but sure its worth a try. goodluck

abarkie · 10-09-2015 4:58pm

BumperD wrote: »

Racing post tipping service. Buy the paper version tomorrow you'll see his tips. They go up online 8pm the night before for those paying. You can still get his price before they collapse in most shops before 10:15am today. Some follow him blindly and once he picks a horse, the prices quickly shorten. Ask others about his record /stats. Not sure they are published.

http://www.bettingtools.co.uk/tipster-table/tipsters/pricewise/23

Sorry its an old thread but was just looking at something on betfairand remembered this

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