Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment

ProudDUB · 12-06-2017 10:53am

Great. Another bloody media circus.

Although, considering that Keith Higgins kneed another player in the balls yesterday, to zero media outrage, compare to Dermo's, I'm starting to consider Dermo may have been hard done by.

Gael85 · 12-06-2017 10:54am

ProudDUB wrote: »

Great. Another bloody media circus.

Although, considering that Keith Higgins kneed another player in the balls yesterday, to zero media outrage, compare to Dermo's, I'm starting to consider Dermo may have been hard done by.

Don't forget to mention Cillian "elbows" O'Connor

ProudDUB · 12-06-2017 10:57am

Or Greg Louganis as we call him here. Oh sorry, that's Aido, my bad.

PeterTheNinth · 12-06-2017 11:05am

"Diarmuid Connolly in Refusing To Accept Punishment For His Actions Shocker"

Bonniedog · 12-06-2017 11:09am

Should have taken it. Doesn't matter what anyone else has gotten away with over weekend or what the provocation.

I know people were slagging Mullane over his apparent bias against the stripey lads but he held his hands up when suspended a few years back. Nearly any appeal will be won on some technical basis.

Let's hope hubris does not play a part and he get himself sent off in August or September!

Jayop · 12-06-2017 11:30am

ProudDUB wrote: »

Great. Another bloody media circus.

Although, considering that Keith Higgins kneed another player in the balls yesterday, to zero media outrage, compare to Dermo's, I'm starting to consider Dermo may have been hard done by.

He didn't get away with it at the time though. He was rightly sent off and will rightly receive a ban. Not comparable incidents at all.

DoctaDee · 12-06-2017 11:45am

ProudDUB wrote: »

Great. Another bloody media circus.

Although, considering that Keith Higgins kneed another player in the balls yesterday, to zero media outrage, compare to Dermo's, I'm starting to consider Dermo may have been hard done by.

Jaysis yeah .. and I wouldn't mind but C O'Connor had stepped up into the panto villains boots so well yesterday

MayoAreMagic · 12-06-2017 11:56am

DoctaDee wrote: »

Jaysis yeah .. and I wouldn't mind but C O'Connor had stepped up into the panto villains boots so well yesterday

Had he though?
It is interesting that Higgins can knee a guy in the b*lls, yet O'Connor is the panto villain for going to ground after being fouled, with the ref wrongly deciding that it was a black card.

You lads really should get over this personal dislike of O'Connor. It is clouding your judgement.

On the Connolly appeal, surely this 'shot to nothing' idea, where there isn't much hope but sure we will appeal anyway because you never know, is in fact the very definition of a frivolous appeal. In other sports these are punished severely.

Slattsy · 12-06-2017 12:01pm

Is there a sleeping emoji available on boards.ie yet?

Bonniedog · 12-06-2017 12:01pm

Mayo, all counties appeal these things, including your own - wrongly in my view - because they have trained legal back up who almost invariably pick holes in the "verdict."

Makes a bit of a joke of disciplinary measures but there you go. A reflection of what Ireland has become perhaps!

corny · 12-06-2017 12:02pm

Anyone know on what grounds he's appealing or if thats public knowledge yet?

Can't for the life of me work out why he should accept it. If he was in danger of getting the ban increased (incidentally thats what should happen if you fail on appeal) then maybe but thats not going to happen.

He's every right to appeal and shouldn't be shouldered with any of the games burdens imo. Every single inter county manager would fight tooth and nail to get their best players off...Dublin are no different. In short, I agree he's guilty but i respect his right to fight his own corner and not to be scorned for it.

Bonniedog · 12-06-2017 12:09pm

Corny, he is appealing on basis that legal advice is that proper procedures were not followed. GAA needs fkn US Supreme Court at this stage.

There is hardly any suspension now that is not over turned on appeal. As said before, hopefully, he doesn't come back and lose us an All Ireland. Plain as that.

MayoAreMagic · 12-06-2017 12:11pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

Mayo, all counties appeal these things, including your own - wrongly in my view - because they have trained legal back up who almost invariably pick holes in the "verdict."

Makes a bit of a joke of disciplinary measures but there you go. A reflection of what Ireland has become perhaps!

All counties don't appeal these things. Tipperary didn't appeal for example. While Mayo haven't had anyone get into a physical altercation with a ref in my memory.

It depends on the details of the appeal obviously - some appeals are warranted of course, but if the appeal is just this shot in the dark kinda thing, that people are claiming it to be, where the thinking is 'well they are hardly going to increase it so we will chance our arm'. That is 100% a frivolous appeal. When you factor in that we are talking about something as serious as a physical altercation with a linesman, at some point the gaa have to push back against this attitude.
I mean, where does it stop? Should mayo appeal higgins' red card? Id consider that a disgrace if we did, but it is not all that dissimilar...

ProudDUB · 12-06-2017 12:18pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Had he though?
It is interesting that Higgins can knee a guy in the b*lls, yet O'Connor is the panto villain for going to ground after being fouled, with the ref wrongly deciding that it was a black card.

You lads really should get over this personal dislike of O'Connor. It is clouding your judgement.

On the Connolly appeal, surely this 'shot to nothing' idea, where there isn't much hope but sure we will appeal anyway because you never know, is in fact the very definition of a frivolous appeal. In other sports these are punished severely.

We really don't need to get over anything regarding CO'C, thanks very much. We have had a ringside seat, to his carry on over the past five years. Of course we are going to call him out on his diving, his sneaky elbows, his petulance and his contant whinging in the refs ear. (Charges that can rarely be laid at Lee Keegans door btw. A giant of a man and a player, in comparision to O'Connor imo. Keegan is a player I have tons of respect for.) If you don't like to hear the truth about one of your own, that is too bad.

Where else is the panto villanesque outrage coming from exactly, apart from here? Was his carry on singled out on the Sunday Game last night? Was it the lead story in loads of news paper articles this morning? Will it be the lead GAA story on all the Monday podcasts and radio shows today? Will it be wrtten about ad nauseum, all week long? Will so called commentators who weren't even at the game, or didn't even watch it live, be weighing in with their opinions on what he did? Good luck waiting for any of that to happen. St Cillians got off scot free, yet again.

But if given a choice, I'd much rather be blaggarded and have the 4 All Ireland medals in the back pocket, than to be tagged with the lovable loser/butter wouldn't melt personas in journos and commentators minds, due to having eff all Celtic Crosses, despite years of trying and so called bad luck. Each to his own.

Bonniedog · 12-06-2017 12:19pm

Okay, maybe all counties do not, but most do. Usually on basis of stuff to do with notebooks and notifications blah de blah.

Said before, Dublin and Connolly should have taken this on chin. You can't be pushing refs and linesmen. For any reason.

MayoAreMagic · 12-06-2017 12:50pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

We really don't need to do get over anything regarding CO'C, thanks very much. We have had a ringside seat, to his carry on over the past five years. Of course we are going to call him out on his diving, his sneaky elbows, his petulance and his contant whinging in the refs ear. Charges that can rarely be laid at Lee Keegans door btw. A giant of a man and a player, in comparision to O'Connor. If you don't like to hear the truth about one of your own, that is too bad.

I dont want to make the thing about O'Connor but you made the effort to make the point, so I will respond to these issues you have.

First off, he doesn't dive, he go to ground under contact, like all forwards and many defenders do - like Connolly did to get keegan a black card in last years replay. Sorry but that is just being smart. They aren't dives though, and he is far from alone. Singling him out is just biased observation.

Sneaky elbows, I'll call it straight, this is bs. Players use their arms to give themselves space and hold off opponents, particularly guys who use strength over speed. Sometimes they connect with people trying to get close to them. Eoghan O'Gara is always doing it. Comer was throwing his arms around all day long yesterday also. No outcry about him? Again, just one-sided adjudication, because you don't like the guy.

Does he be onto refs at free kicks etc. Yes. So does every captain, and plenty more who aren't - McMahon for example never shuts up talking to the ref - often when he is completely wrong, do you dislike him too?

As for petulance, this seems to stem from him getting annoyed after John Small swung an arm at him on the ground and got away with it. Think about that for a second. A guy swings an arm at his head, it is clearly seen by the linesman, and gets away with it completely, and people are finding fault with him, not the guy swinging his arms... That sums up the attitude towards O'Connor. If that was the other way around and small reacted, you would be saying O'Connor is throwing sneaky digs rather than small being petulant... The dice is completely loaded against him.

ProudDUB wrote: »

Where else is the panto villanesque outrage coming from exactly, apart from here? Was his carry on singled out on the Sunday Game last night? Was it the lead story in loads of news paper articles this morning? Will it be the lead GAA story on all the Monday podcasts and radio shows today? Will it be wrtten about ad nauseum, all week long? Will so called commentators who weren't even at the game, or didn't even watch it live, be weighing in with their opinions on what he did? Good luck waiting for any of that to happen. St Cillians got off scot free, yet again.

Did you ever consider that he 'got off scot free', because you are blowing out of proportion in your own head the things he is actually doing? He isn't doing anything that other players aren't also doing, and not being called for.

Dyr · 12-06-2017 1:10pm

If it turns out that the mention of Connolly putting poor Brannigan in fear of his mortal life was actually an addendum to the ref's report then I think the DCB are right to call shenanigans.

PeterTheNinth · 12-06-2017 1:24pm

They were talking on RTE about "something having changed since Friday" which encouraged Dublin to appeal the suspension. Does anybody know if any new information came to light?

JeffKenna · 12-06-2017 1:28pm

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

They were talking on RTE about "something having changed since Friday" which encouraged Dublin to appeal the suspension. Does anybody know if any new information came to light?

Maybe the chance of meeting Mayo in the quarter final?

flasher0030 · 12-06-2017 1:29pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

I dont want to make the thing about O'Connor but you made the effort to make the point, so I will respond to these issues you have.

First off, he doesn't dive, he go to ground under contact, like all forwards and many defenders do - like Connolly did to get keegan a black card in last years replay. Sorry but that is just being smart. They aren't dives though, and he is far from alone. Singling him out is just biased observation.

Sneaky elbows, I'll call it straight, this is bs. Players use their arms to give themselves space and hold off opponents, particularly guys who use strength over speed. Sometimes they connect with people trying to get close to them. Eoghan O'Gara is always doing it. Comer was throwing his arms around all day long yesterday also. No outcry about him? Again, just one-sided adjudication, because you don't like the guy.

Does he be onto refs at free kicks etc. Yes. So does every captain, and plenty more who aren't - McMahon for example never shuts up talking to the ref - often when he is completely wrong, do you dislike him too?

As for petulance, this seems to stem from him getting annoyed after John Small swung an arm at him on the ground and got away with it. Think about that for a second. A guy swings an arm at his head, it is clearly seen by the linesman, and gets away with it completely, and people are finding fault with him, not the guy swinging his arms... That sums up the attitude towards O'Connor. If that was the other way around and small reacted, you would be saying O'Connor is throwing sneaky digs rather than small being petulant... The dice is completely loaded against him.

Did you ever consider that he 'got off scot free', because you are blowing out of proportion in your own head the things he is actually doing? He isn't doing anything that other players aren't also doing, and not being called for.

The reason for the sneaky elbows reference is that the dubs can't get over that he the cheek to drop an elbow back on Rory O'Carroll (I think) couple of years back, when O'Carroll was holding on to him.

Doltanian · 12-06-2017 1:54pm

Pure cynicism by the Dublin GAA to appeal Connolly's Ban. This all results from Galway's defeat of Mayo yesterday. Wheras the status quo would have seen Kerry meet Mayo in the All-Ireland Semi-Final assuming both Counties reached that far. Mayo now look destined to meet Dublin on the other side of the draw either in a Quarter Final or Semi-Final. Mayo are a great team but don't get going until mid-July or August.

Connolly's appeal is a direct reaction to the threat posed by Mayo as Mayo could dispose of Dublin handily in a quarter or semi final especially if Dublin are missing him. However the elephant in the room is the colossus in the Kingdom which are waiting in the long grass this year for Dublin. But with Yesterday's result I'm predicting a Kerry - Mayo Final and more misery for the westerners.

EICVD · 12-06-2017 1:58pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

The reason for the sneaky elbows reference is that the dubs can't get over that he the cheek to drop an elbow back on Rory O'Carroll (I think) couple of years back, when O'Carroll was holding on to him.

Haha so every time a jersey is being held the one doing the pulling should be rightfully elbowed in the face? Good logic that....

O'Connor is the dirtiest most cowardly player in the game!

km79 · 12-06-2017 2:00pm

Doltanian wrote: »

Pure cynicism by the Dublin GAA to appeal Connolly's Ban. This all results from Galway's defeat of Mayo yesterday. Wheras the status quo would have seen Kerry meet Mayo in the All-Ireland Semi-Final assuming both Counties reached that far. Mayo now look destined to meet Dublin on the other side of the draw either in a Quarter Final or Semi-Final. Mayo are a great team but don't get going until mid-July or August.

Connolly's appeal is a direct reaction to the threat posed by Mayo as Mayo could dispose of Dublin handily in a quarter or semi final especially if Dublin are missing him. However the elephant in the room is the colossus in the Kingdom which are waiting in the long grass this year for Dublin. But with Yesterday's result I'm predicting a Kerry - Mayo Final and more misery for the westerners.

Mayo can't meet Dublin until the final
Mayo are in kerrys side of draw so can not meet in final

Jayop · 12-06-2017 2:01pm

EICVD wrote: »

O'Connor is the dirtiest most cowardly player in the game!

Ffs we can't even hold that title anymore.

PressRun · 12-06-2017 2:13pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

We really don't need to get over anything regarding CO'C, thanks very much. We have had a ringside seat, to his carry on over the past five years. Of course we are going to call him out on his diving, his sneaky elbows, his petulance and his contant whinging in the refs ear. (Charges that can rarely be laid at Lee Keegans door btw. A giant of a man and a player, in comparision to O'Connor imo. Keegan is a player I have tons of respect for.) If you don't like to hear the truth about one of your own, that is too bad.

Where else is the panto villanesque outrage coming from exactly, apart from here? Was his carry on singled out on the Sunday Game last night? Was it the lead story in loads of news paper articles this morning? Will it be the lead GAA story on all the Monday podcasts and radio shows today? Will it be wrtten about ad nauseum, all week long? Will so called commentators who weren't even at the game, or didn't even watch it live, be weighing in with their opinions on what he did? Good luck waiting for any of that to happen. St Cillians got off scot free, yet again.

But if given a choice, I'd much rather be blaggarded and have the 4 All Ireland medals in the back pocket, than to be tagged with the lovable loser/butter wouldn't melt personas in journos and commentators minds, due to having eff all Celtic Crosses, despite years of trying and so called bad luck. Each to his own.

Another disciplinary issue with Diarmuid Connolly and you're ranting and raving about Cillian O'Connor and getting digs in about Mayo.

And we're the ones who can't accept the truth? If you pop over to the Mayo thread you'll see plenty of discussion on the above.

Bonniedog · 12-06-2017 2:16pm

Jayop wrote: »

Ffs we can't even hold that title anymore.

Well.... no I won't, it's a nice day

Gael85 · 12-06-2017 2:36pm

PressRun wrote: »

Another disciplinary issue with Diarmuid Connolly and you're ranting and raving about Cillian O'Connor and getting digs in about Mayo.

And we're the ones who can't accept the truth? If you pop over to the Mayo thread you'll see plenty of discussion on the above.

I think its Cillian O'Connor that getting the digs in

PressRun · 12-06-2017 2:38pm

Gael85 wrote: »

I think its Cillian O'Connor that getting the digs in

Himself and Dermo are two peas in a pod so!

PARlance · 12-06-2017 2:44pm

EICVD wrote: »

Haha so every time a jersey is being held the one doing the pulling should be rightfully elbowed in the face? Good logic that....

O'Connor is the dirtiest most cowardly player in the game!

I wouldn't argue with you said he's the biggest mouth / pain / blaggard / narky p***k but dirtiest and cowardly is way off the mark.

He will throw his body on his line to win anything, far from cowardly. He knew he was going to get hit yesterday when he won that black card. And there's no doubt about it, he took his hit and won it. I wouldn't class him as a particularly dirty player either, a lot of his game is more about enticing digs than giving them.

I don't know when this holier than thou attitude crept in but if you're holding someone back, grabbing a jersey or a hand then you're expecting a dig. I would go as far as saying you're wanting a dig if it might lead to a red card.
Cooper didn't need to hold onto Murphy's hand in the Carlow match, he was looking for a reaction and got it. I've no issue with the player in that instance, the GAA has had long enough to stamp it out at this stage. Players will do what they have to or can get away with.

You could even call him the biggest cheat in the game and I wouldn't argue as long as it was recognised that cheating is part and parcel of the game (whether most people are willing to admit it or not) and has been for as long as I'm around. Hands are grabbed in tackles, players will fall into tackles, will stay down at times to make a tackle look worse, will argue for lineballs / 45's / frees that they know aren't theirs. Cillian has mastered that whether we call it cute, cheating or whatever... he is number 1 for that. His success will probably cause him an issue or two down the line, the dog on the street knows what he's up to know.

DoctaDee · 12-06-2017 3:03pm

Doltanian wrote: »

Pure cynicism by the Dublin GAA to appeal Connolly's Ban. This all results from Galway's defeat of Mayo yesterday. Wheras the status quo would have seen Kerry meet Mayo in the All-Ireland Semi-Final assuming both Counties reached that far. Mayo now look destined to meet Dublin on the other side of the draw either in a Quarter Final or Semi-Final. Mayo are a great team but don't get going until mid-July or August.

Connolly's appeal is a direct reaction to the threat posed by Mayo as Mayo could dispose of Dublin handily in a quarter or semi final especially if Dublin are missing him. However the elephant in the room is the colossus in the Kingdom which are waiting in the long grass this year for Dublin. But with Yesterday's result I'm predicting a Kerry - Mayo Final and more misery for the westerners.

:rolleyes:

MayoAreMagic · 12-06-2017 4:22pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

The reason for the sneaky elbows reference is that the dubs can't get over that he the cheek to drop an elbow back on Rory O'Carroll (I think) couple of years back, when O'Carroll was holding on to him.

But the thing is, he didn't even throw an elbow in that instance, he just threw out his arm to shake off a guy who was pulling him back by the arm. That happens 10 times in every game, just this time it happened to connect with the other guy's face and it drew blood.
Anyone who has played a bit of football will know calling that an elbow is at best a stretch, at worst purposely disingenuous.

Id have no problem with people taking issue with O'Connor if he was actually doing the stuff that is being claimed. It comes across like some people think other players don't have the right to get stuck into their players. O'Carroll can be hanging out of a guy, but the guy is in the wrong if he gives him a bit back? Small can swing at a guys head, yet if the guy takes issue with it, he is a petulant whinger. It makes you wonder, what is the expectation? That they play nice while your lads walk all over them?

Im sure if any of you had a young lad playing football, and had some fella pulling and dragging out of him, you would say don't let that happen again. Why should O'Connor act any differently?

flasher0030 · 12-06-2017 4:43pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

But the thing is, he didn't even throw an elbow in that instance, he just threw out his arm to shake off a guy who was pulling him back by the arm. That happens 10 times in every game, just this time it happened to connect with the other guy's face and it drew blood.
Anyone who has played a bit of football will know calling that an elbow is at best a stretch, at worst purposely disingenuous.

Id have no problem with people taking issue with O'Connor if he was actually doing the stuff that is being claimed. It comes across like some people think other players don't have the right to get stuck into their players. O'Carroll can be hanging out of a guy, but the guy is in the wrong if he gives him a bit back? Small can swing at a guys head, yet if the guy takes issue with it, he is a petulant whinger. It makes you wonder, what is the expectation? That they play nice while your lads walk all over them?

Im sure if any of you had a young lad playing football, and had some fella pulling and dragging out of him, you would say don't let that happen again. Why should O'Connor act any differently?

Completely agree. If you hold the jersey, you should expect some punishment dished out to you - into ribs, nose or most effective (in my GAA experiences) in the liathroidi. There's a bit of a delayed winding to the player holding the jersey, so it doesn't look like a blatent hit. Player will think twice about holding the jersey again. Or if he does, he'll have his other hand protecting the stones down under.

Ask Paul Gascoigne - http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/paul-gascoigne-opens-up-incident-5864884

DoctaDee · 12-06-2017 5:17pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

All counties don't appeal these things. Tipperary didn't appeal for example. .....

You do know that Evan Comerford appealed ... don't you ?

blanch152 · 12-06-2017 5:18pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

I dont want to make the thing about O'Connor but you made the effort to make the point, so I will respond to these issues you have.

First off, he doesn't dive, he go to ground under contact,

I thought you were defending O'Connor until you stated that. You are right - O'Connor goes to ground under contact from a little finger or the swish of a pony-tail.

blanch152 · 12-06-2017 5:23pm

Doltanian wrote: »

Pure cynicism by the Dublin GAA to appeal Connolly's Ban. This all results from Galway's defeat of Mayo yesterday. Wheras the status quo would have seen Kerry meet Mayo in the All-Ireland Semi-Final assuming both Counties reached that far. Mayo now look destined to meet Dublin on the other side of the draw either in a Quarter Final or Semi-Final. Mayo are a great team but don't get going until mid-July or August.

Connolly's appeal is a direct reaction to the threat posed by Mayo as Mayo could dispose of Dublin handily in a quarter or semi final especially if Dublin are missing him. However the elephant in the room is the colossus in the Kingdom which are waiting in the long grass this year for Dublin. But with Yesterday's result I'm predicting a Kerry - Mayo Final and more misery for the westerners.

Everything is always about Mayo, isn't it?

Wouldn't it be better if the Mayo team and supporters stopped talking about football and actually knuckled down to winning something?

DoctaDee · 12-06-2017 5:28pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Everything is always about Mayo, isn't it?

Wouldn't it be better if the Mayo team and supporters stopped talking about football and actually knuckled down to winning something?

Ah I think that's an old Kerry friend of ours Blanch ... time will tell

PARlance · 12-06-2017 5:50pm

Typical Dubs. Blaming us Mayo folk for things we didn't do.

JRant · 12-06-2017 6:12pm

DoctaDee wrote: »

You do know that Evan Comerford appealed ... don't you ?

Ah Doc, you don't expect them to know anything outside of their subject matter, ie the Dublin senior football team

DoctaDee · 12-06-2017 6:30pm

JRant wrote: »

Ah Doc, you don't expect them to know anything outside of their subject matter, ie the Dublin senior football team

.. well it's not the 1st time he's raced with blinkers on J

Stoner · 12-06-2017 6:43pm

MayoAreMagic wrote:

I dont want to make the thing about O'Connor but you made the effort to make the point, so I will respond to these issues you have.

Well stop bringing it up and telling all of the Dublin supporters to get over him so.

Silly comment again.

Stoner · 12-06-2017 6:56pm

flasher0030 wrote:

The reason for the sneaky elbows reference is that the dubs can't get over that he the cheek to drop an elbow back on Rory O'Carroll (I think) couple of years back, when O'Carroll was holding on to him.

It made no difference to the result though and was great preparation for not having Rory for the Double last year.

You know well it was Rory O'Carroll since you corrected me on it last year when I had the wrong details on it.

Keep up the Magic Flash, don't let it slip in the process though.

Stoner · 12-06-2017 7:00pm

Appealing this is crazy, regardless of the circumstances (and Brollys almost legal advice in the SW yesterday)

It would be far better to let this pass by.

Paulzx · 12-06-2017 8:32pm

Stoner wrote: »

Appealing this is crazy, regardless of the circumstances (and Brollys almost legal advice in the SW yesterday)

It would be far better to let this pass by.

Agreed. This is just going to turn into a circus which will act as a distraction for the rest of the panel. It will also give ammo to the whingers if he gets off and dublin are successfull this year.

Apart from that he deserves the ban and needs a good kick up the hole along with it. He's a fantastic player but I'm sick of worrying about what he's going to do next on the pitch with respect to discipline.

You don't lay a finger on a match official.........end of. We are doing our sport no favours by trying to justify this action. He didn't deck the linesman. He caused no injury to him but he crossed the line by laying a finger on him in a confrontational way.

Drumpot · 12-06-2017 8:41pm

Stoner wrote: »

Appealing this is crazy, regardless of the circumstances (and Brollys almost legal advice in the SW yesterday)

It would be far better to let this pass by.

Any county with a talent like Connolly would use the tools available to them to appeal. Something has given them reason to believe they have a case..

For the Dublin fans bemoaning the decision to appeal, remember Connolly has been training hard for a long time to get to where he is. It's easy to come onto a forum and say he should just suck it up when you haven't even of a fraction of the skin in the game that he has. He is going to miss most of the championship and won't have proper fitness for the entire championship.

Do people think he can train, for the first time in 3 months, with the Dublin team on the day of the all Ireland semi final (assuming Dublin get there?). People talk about how drilled this Dublin team we and how they are pretty much professional. Well how does a player missing for 3 months coming back for potentially the 2 hardest games fit into that narrative?

Connolly is appealing to play in the championship, not to be available at the end of august!

Im sorry but the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

Jayop · 12-06-2017 8:52pm

Ah it really does. Anyone pushes a ref in any other sport they'd be out for at least three games too. The fact that in the GAA 3 games takes 3 months to play in the summer is irrelevant. Refs need to be protected and if he manages to get away with this it will send an absolutely awful message.

Stoner · 12-06-2017 9:04pm

I've always thought and said he'd get off if he appealed and I think he will.
I agree it will be a complete distraction.

It not a problem coming back in late guys do it all the time. A couple of Vincent's vs the Dubs games would sort that out. With him playing for Vincents.

If Dublin progress he'll just get back carded on his next game out and if the team progress again he'll sit the next one out too.

dxhound2005 · 12-06-2017 9:14pm

Stoner wrote: »

Appealing this is crazy, regardless of the circumstances (and Brollys almost legal advice in the SW yesterday)

It would be far better to let this pass by.

Are you referring to Connolly here?

Stoner · 12-06-2017 9:15pm

dxhound2005 wrote:

Are you referring to Connolly here?

Yes.

JRant · 13-06-2017 1:01am

Jayop wrote: »

Ah it really does. Anyone pushes a ref in any other sport they'd be out for at least three games too. The fact that in the GAA 3 games takes 3 months to play in the summer is irrelevant. Refs need to be protected and if he manages to get away with this it will send an absolutely awful message.

The refs have all the tools available to them on the field to deal with issues like this. If they deemed it as such a serious offence in their report then he really should have got the line when it happened and let it be dealt with from there on. It would be very hard/impossible to defend if that happened but that's not the case. In typical GAA style the balls up the issue and allow a trail by Sunday Game type thing to happen.

Now my own view would be to take his medicine and move on but something has obviously come up to muddy the waters here.

Regardless of that the awful message put out there by the GAA is that the pulling and the dragging and the fouling and the play acting and the pulling and the dragging are acceptable ways to play the game.

MayoAreMagic · 13-06-2017 12:48pm

Stoner wrote: »

Well stop bringing it up and telling all of the Dublin supporters to get over him so.

Silly comment again.

I responded to someone making unfair points about the guy. That isn't me bringing him up, and there is nothing silly about that either.

As for your inference that I am flasher0030, if you think Im going to bother posting over 300 times on a fake account to make it credible, just so I can go over to the dubs page and agree with myself, you have another thing coming. Judging me by your own standards maybe?

The thing is, you are a mod, Im assuming you have some method of comparing ip addresses, which means you could check that out yourself, so why make the accusation? Pretty disingenuous in fairness.

Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment

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