Green Bay Packers Thread

BillN · 03-10-2011 12:09am

While I am amazed at Rodgers' play week in week out, they still need a better running game. We're lucky to be at 4 and 0. But I'll take victory any way I can get it.

spiralism · 03-10-2011 1:37am

BillN wrote: »

While I am amazed at Rodgers' play week in week out, they still need a better running game. We're lucky to be at 4 and 0. But I'll take victory any way I can get it.

even if it's only by 26 points

WakeyTyke · 03-10-2011 9:16pm

BillN wrote: »

While I am amazed at Rodgers' play week in week out, they still need a better running game. We're lucky to be at 4 and 0. But I'll take victory any way I can get it.

:eek:

We won the Superbowl basically without any running game.

When we have the hottest QB in the game, who is getting better every game he plays and the best receiving corp in the NFL why is the running game such a big issue?

Now, the defensive secondary's tendency to regularly give up the big play, that is something to be concerned about!

UnitedIrishman · 03-10-2011 9:29pm

WakeyTyke wrote: »

:eek:

We won the Superbowl basically without any running game.

When we have the hottest QB in the game, who is getting better every game he plays and the best receiving corp in the NFL why is the running game such a big issue?

Now, the defensive secondary's tendency to regularly give up the big play, that is something to be concerned about!

Well you could say the Packers did it without any running game but in the playoff games Starks had a huge couple of games (123 yards vs. Eagles, 74 yards and a TD vs. Bears).

I know it's a passing league but the rushing side of things keeps defences honest. I don't think you'll see Grant or Starks getting huge amounts of carries or put up huge yardage but they need to gain yardage or else Rodgers will be under huge pressure from the opposition D.

And totally agree with the secondary problem this year. Orton launched two bombs yesterday, one caught and the other called back - to a wide open Lloyd. Don't know if that's because of the D not putting enough pressure on or the secondary not covering well enough but they need to step it up a bit.

cooker3 · 04-10-2011 3:40am

I've only seen the New Orleams game so I am speaking from a position of ignorance but I think you guys are being way too pessimistic. Recall that we have always started, the first half of the season, very slowly in the Rodgers era hence we we've been wildcards the previous 2 seasons. The Patriots were not all conquering during their dynasty, barely scraped into play-offs 1 year, got destroyed by Bills another. From highlights I've seen and match reports I've read. We have been efficient and done the job whole beating some decent teams and We know this team has what it takes to turn it on when it really matters.
At this point in the season I think we are exactly where we need to be.

me-skywalker · 04-10-2011 4:27pm

Been thinking about the big plays we are allowing teams so regularly and I have come to the conclusion that the fact that we are ahead in the majority of gamess and sometimes a few scores ahead forces the opposing offense co-ord/QB to push harder for them bigger plays, to make them longer passes than they would in a tighter closer game. (so in essence our own off is forcing more press on our def by scoring so bloody much! Speaks volumes!)

I'm willing to allow the defense some slack in fact we've forced a few turnovers and hada good stand off v Saints on day 1. Lets see how the Def holds up when we're ahead by 2 and they have the ball in our 20 on more regular occasions before beign too critical.

Pherekydes · 04-10-2011 4:41pm

Big game on Sunday night @ Atlanta. They'll have to execute well on offence while shutting down their dangerous run game.

Rodgers is the "1st quarter" MVP. I hope he can continue playing as well. I also hope he can avoid taking hefty shots like he did when scoring his first TD on Sunday.

WakeyTyke · 04-10-2011 10:20pm

Rodgers had probably the finest game of his career in last year's play-off game in Atlanta and playing indoors certainly is a positive for the Packs air offence, so this game will give a good indication if the offense is already again playing at that level, even so early in the season.

You can be sure that Atlanta will be bursting for revenge which will surely make this the most intriguing game of the season so far.

This game could very easily see the Pack lose their unbeaten record or, alternatively, see them cement their status as the hottest team in the NFL. Can not wait:D

UnitedIrishman · 04-10-2011 10:32pm

WakeyTyke wrote: »

Rodgers had probably the finest game of his career in last year's play-off game in Atlanta and playing indoors certainly is a positive for the Packs air offence, so this game will give a good indication if the offense is already again playing at that level, even so early in the season.

You can be sure that Atlanta will be bursting for revenge which will surely make this the most intriguing game of the season so far.

This game could very easily see the Pack lose their unbeaten record or, alternatively, see them cement their status as the hottest team in the NFL. Can not wait:D

Going to be a great game. Matt Ryan is a top QB at home so his passing game will put the Packers under a bit of pressure whilst the chance to go into the bye week unbeaten (pending beating the 0-4 Rams Sunday week), would be a massive boost.

Pherekydes · 05-10-2011 12:06am

me-skywalker wrote: »

Been thinking about the big plays we are allowing teams so regularly and I have come to the conclusion that the fact that we are ahead in the majority of gamess and sometimes a few scores ahead forces the opposing offense co-ord/QB to push harder for them bigger plays, to make them longer passes than they would in a tighter closer game. (so in essence our own off is forcing more press on our def by scoring so bloody much! Speaks volumes!)

Absolutely right! Opponents have been forced to abandon the run in favour of passing more.

Two simple stats: Packers have had the fewest runs to defend against in the whole league, and are 4th in the league in opponents' pass attempts.

The opposition are throwing more, which naturally leads to more big plays, but they are also making more mistakes. Packers are tied for the league lead with 8 interceptions.

spank_inferno · 05-10-2011 9:26am

The Atlanta game will be a big test alright. I doubt it will be a repeat of the blow-out in the Playoffs.

Anyone know if Ryan Grant will be back playing soon?

WakeyTyke · 05-10-2011 10:57am

spank_inferno wrote: »

The Atlanta game will be a big test alright. I doubt it will be a repeat of the blow-out in the Playoffs.

Anyone know if Ryan Grant will be back playing soon?

Should have an idea if Grant will be back from his status report after training today.

Probably more important is the status of Brian Bulaga, Marshall Newhouse gave up two sacks on Rodgers on Sunday against a rookie LB. Falcons are going to be putting a lot more pressure on the OL than the Broncos did and they will be looking at getting easy access through the RT position. Having to add a TE or RB as a blocker there is going to limit our attacking options.

10-10-2011 10:54am

Great win. Yes, Rodgers was outstanding, but I think all the credit for this one goes to McCarthy and Capers. It was instructive for someone like me to see a team get so...outthought and outcoached. You could almost see it evolve during the game, how they got to grips with the Falcons after the early setbacks and injuries, and how by the end they were just doing what champions do and beating weaker teams.

cooker3 · 10-10-2011 4:31pm

Absolutely delighted with that win. For a start I got to see the game, my first since the Saints but, like I said in the match thread, it's a great victory to overcome the adversity of losing players to injury, going down early in a dome against team hellbent on revenge over their play-off loss. As Conor said McCarthy and Capers match adjustments were vital. It's something McCarthy excels at, we tend to start slow and get much better in the 2nd half.

Mind you Cliftons injury exposes what I thought, going into this season, our biggest weak point our strength in depth at the o-line. We can't afford many injuries there. While, as we saw again today, Rodgers is amazing at evading defenders (the completed pass while basically kneeling down was just taking the piss) he can't do it all the time and a team with a good pass rush could really punish us. The Lions in particular come to mind.

Next week, home to the Rams. Things are good in Packerland right now.

Raze_them_all · 10-10-2011 4:38pm

cooker3 wrote: »

Absolutely delighted with that win. For a start I got to see the game, my first since the Saints but, like I said in the match thread, it's a great victory to overcome the adversity of losing players to injury, going down early in a dome against team hellbent on revenge over their play-off loss. As Conor said McCarthy and Capers match adjustments were vital. It's something McCarthy excels at, we tend to start slow and get much better in the 2nd half.

Mind you Cliftons injury exposes what I thought, going into this season, our biggest weak point our strength in depth at the o-line. We can't afford many injuries there. While, as we saw again today, Rodgers is amazing at evading defenders (the completed pass while basically kneeling down was just taking the piss) he can't do it all the time and a team with a good pass rush could really punish us. The Lions in particular come to mind.

Next week, home to the Rams. Things are good in Packerland right now.

For that tackle when I seen it happen i thought yer man managed to block him out of the way for rogers, was amazed that he proper got a hold of rogers and he still hit his reciever on the way down.

TBH we played pretty ****e for the first two quarters, not really the o lines fault as they managed to keep rogers off the park for most of it.

Was going nuts that we couldn't stop them on third down for the first half!

FlutterinBantam · 11-10-2011 5:24pm

Desperate Dan #76 will be out for longer than expected.

Not too serious now that STL coming next week.

But with Bulaga questionable is it time to slot Sherrod into RT, Bulaga, when healthy into LT and Newhouse the back up.

Or some other combo?

Clifton is a terrific player, but getting on.

WakeyTyke · 15-10-2011 4:01pm

Bulaga is set to return against the Rams but it seems McCarthy may use him sparingly alternating him with Newhouse at LT with Sherrod at RT. Looks as if McCarthy is confident enough that the Rams game will be a good chance to give the new guys some much-needed game time on the O line.

Hope Burnett's hand holds up well in the game, we can't afford to lose another Safety.

I'd say the chances are good that Rodgers and his offense might be rewriting a few more records in the Packers stats. book.:D

spank_inferno · 15-10-2011 7:53pm

Rams game should be an easy win for the Pack

Good to see this match getting the old "Acme Packers" strip

Its all about the pantaloons!

FlutterinBantam · 17-10-2011 5:43pm

A win ,but not convincing.

spank_inferno · 17-10-2011 10:35pm

Have Green Bay been really convincing at all this season?

it seems like all the components are working, some in 6th gear (QB & Passing game) but some only in 4th gear.

I dont want to seem pessemistic, we are unbeaten after all.
But things don't quite feel right

Raze_them_all · 18-10-2011 1:11am

spank_inferno wrote: »

Have Green Bay been really convincing at all this season?

it seems like all the components are working, some in 6th gear (QB & Passing game) but some only in 4th gear.

I dont want to seem pessemistic, we are unbeaten after all.
But things don't quite feel right

Lets be honest they didn't quite feel right last season till we had to win, as it stands we've almost matched our regular season wins already, and we only won them when the pressure was on last season, I reckon a loss will motivate the defence into high gear, I just don't want to see them need to get into high gear

FlutterinBantam · 18-10-2011 7:30am

spank_inferno wrote: »

Have Green Bay been really convincing at all this season?

it seems like all the components are working, some in 6th gear (QB & Passing game) but some only in 4th gear.

I dont want to seem pessemistic, we are unbeaten after all.
But things don't quite feel right

They will need to be convincing next week when AP starts rumbling.

WakeyTyke · 18-10-2011 10:01pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

They will need to be convincing next week when AP starts rumbling.

Given that Ponder is now the starting QB Petersen is going to be the Vikes offense and you can be sure Capers will have a strategy to have him smothered before he gets into his stride.

Really can't see the anyone losing any sleep over Sunday's game:)

FlutterinBantam · 20-10-2011 8:01am

WakeyTyke wrote: »

Given that Ponder is now the starting QB Petersen is going to be the Vikes offense and you can be sure Capers will have a strategy to have him smothered before he gets into his stride.

Really can't see the anyone losing any sleep over Sunday's game:)

I would always be a bit concerned about the Vikes.

let's hope you are right.

me-skywalker · 20-10-2011 10:12am

First Monday I have off work on the 31st and the Packesr on abye week ugh!! Least Cowboys V Eagles should make for a great game, especially this part of the season, Cowboys approaching must wins for these games!

Rick_ · 21-10-2011 4:41pm

I'm also off Monday 31st and typical, the Packers are on a bye. Not to worry, they are playing the Bears on Christmas Day, so we will both be able to stay up late and watch them then!

FlutterinBantam · 23-10-2011 7:35pm

Packers on Sky tonite vs Vikes..... take a look and enjoy

Pherekydes · 24-10-2011 12:30am

Masterclass by Rodgers, 2 ints by Woodson and some good running by Starks to close it out. 7-0 heading into the bye, followed by a lengthy trip to San Diego.

What's not to like?

WakeyTyke · 24-10-2011 9:16am

Always thought that the Vikes game could be a banana skin match-up and they certainly made a game of it.

Think the team is a bit banged up at the moment and the bye week will be most welcome.

Can see the Pack coming out and firing on all cylinders for the second-half of the season. Could we possibly ...;)

FlutterinBantam · 24-10-2011 10:50am

WakeyTyke wrote: »

Given that Ponder is now the starting QB Petersen is going to be the Vikes offense and you can be sure Capers will have a strategy to have him smothered before he gets into his stride.

Really can't see the anyone losing any sleep over Sunday's game:)

Capers must have been in the privvy most of the game:D .AP rumbled for around 180 yds and make no mistake the Packers were glad to get out of Minnie with a win as i always thought the would.

WakeyTyke wrote: »

Always thought that the Vikes game could be a banana skin match-up and they certainly made a game of it.

Think the team is a bit banged up at the moment and the bye week will be most welcome.

Can see the Pack coming out and firing on all cylinders for the second-half of the season. Could we possibly ...;)

:rolleyes::D

Did you!!

Packers completion of third downs was poor,and even worse allowed 6 consecutive third downs, some very long from the Vikes, at stages when a stop would have sealed the game practically.

Running game was well held,but got the big one from Starks when needed.

Not being negative, but 7-0 is perfect, there is still a doubt there, can't really put a finger on exactly what yet though.

WakeyTyke · 24-10-2011 11:18am

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Capers must have been in the privvy most of the game:D .AP rumbled for around 180 yds and make no mistake the Packers were glad to get out of Minnie with a win as i always thought the would.

:rolleyes::D

Did you!!

Packers completion of third downs was poor,and even worse allowed 6 consecutive third downs, some very long from the Vikes, at stages when a stop would have sealed the game practically.

Running game was well held,but got the big one from Starks when needed.

Not being negative, but 7-0 is perfect, there is still a doubt there, can't really put a finger on exactly what yet though.

I think all Divisional games have the potential to be unpredictable but I always believed we should win.:D:o

Was getting worried in the first-half about turn-overs though. Was also surprised at how composed and confident Ponder was, he looks like he could lead the Vikes to a better future.

The Vikes O-line were excellent at giving Petersen the time to pick his holes, who is a truly sensational runner once in motion.

Our defense is unevenly balanced having only one genuine pass-rusher, especially since losing Cullen Jenkins. Hopefully if Mike Neal can get fit he can take that role.

me-skywalker · 24-10-2011 1:11pm

You have to give the rookie Ponders credit he made some great throws when needed to get them 3rd downs and fair play to McNabb for mannng up and giving sideline advice.

We have struggled with the running game for the past few years its not something new, we just need to out-score our opponents (duh!!). Pur running game is starting to tick over now, Stark is getting more and more yards as the games progress, Rodgers coudl well use this for some clever audibles or no huddles.

Cobb had a mixed bag; silly drop but great 42yard punt return.

With under the radar performer this year and a huge game last night, mucho kudos to Crosby for the franchise record and nwo has 14/14FG this season! Helps keeps the points ticking over when we are stopped. Well done!

cooker3 · 24-10-2011 5:43pm

Always sweet to beat the Vikings in the dome. I absolutely hate Jared Allen and that celebrationLike others have said, good without beIng spectacular. I remain worried by our. Defence, not enough of a pass rush although Charles introduced Ponder to the NFL.

I have to say Mason Crosby has been a revelation this season. I've been critical of him and frankly would have happily replaced him but making me a believer now.

24-10-2011 7:36pm

Nice touch by Woodson, giving the ball to the girl.

FlutterinBantam · 01-11-2011 4:54pm

Lad pmd me to say he would be in Dublin this weekend Nov 06.

Wanted to know of a loc where he could watch the Packer- SD game which seems to be on Sky2 live.

Won't be in Ireland myself and don't, apart from possibly the Woolshed, know of venues which show American football on a regular basis.

If anyone knows of a place can you post the suggestion, or pm me and I will pass it on.

Thanks.

FreeOSCAR · 01-11-2011 5:01pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Lad pmd me to say he would be in Dublin this weekend Nov 06.

Wanted to know of a loc where he could watch the Packer- SD game which seems to be on Sky2 live.

Won't be in Ireland myself and don't, apart from possibly the Woolshed, know of venues which show American football on a regular basis.

If anyone knows of a place can you post the suggestion, or pm me and I will pass it on.

Thanks.

The Living Room just off O'Connell Street will be showing the game also.

http://www.thelivingroomdublin.com/

I'd recommend the Woolshed though myself.

WakeyTyke · 02-11-2011 9:00pm

Great to see the Packers - Chargers game has been selected by Sky Sports for full coverage, especially with the televised Lions game coming up soon.

Maybe they are going to keep choosing the Pack to see how long they can remain unbeaten.

Hopefully that means we will be seeing a lot more games then;)

FlutterinBantam · 03-11-2011 8:17am

WakeyTyke wrote: »

Great to see the Packers - Chargers game has been selected by Sky Sports for full coverage, especially with the televised Lions game coming up soon.

Maybe they are going to keep choosing the Pack to see how long they can remain unbeaten.

Hopefully that means we will be seeing a lot more games then;)

Superbowl champs always get good coverage next season.

Exciting team to watch, top QB, receivers, D... who else would you rather watch:D

Pherekydes · 04-11-2011 8:39pm

I see Aaron Rodgers has won his third straight "Offensive Player of the Month" award. If he keeps up this form through November he'll have the MVP won by a distance.

Regarding this weeks' game, if Rivers (11 int) throws it up for grabs there will be several willing and grateful recipients in the Packers' secondary.

WakeyTyke · 04-11-2011 9:41pm

This is definitely the Packers biggest game of the season so far and will give a clear indication of just how realistic a second Superbowl win is.

Our defense has been very iffy - ranking a miserable 31st against the pass. This week they face a quality pass offense and if Rivers and the Chargers get hot they could have a field day picking off big plays against the secondary.

The Packers defense really has to draw a line in the sand this week and show that it can recapture its play-off form from last season. Hopefully after the bye weeks rest we will finally see a fully-fit and reinvigorated Woodson, Williams and Shields all back at their best.

Otherwise this could be one QB shoot-out too many that Rodgers can keep pace with.

spank_inferno · 06-11-2011 12:33am

WakeyTyke wrote: »

This is definitely the Packers biggest game of the season so far and will give a clear indication of just how realistic a second Superbowl win is.

Our defense has been very iffy - ranking a miserable 31st against the pass. This week they face a quality pass offense and if Rivers and the Chargers get hot they could have a field day picking off big plays against the secondary.

The Packers defense really has to draw a line in the sand this week and show that it can recapture its play-off form from last season. Hopefully after the bye weeks rest we will finally see a fully-fit and reinvigorated Woodson, Williams and Shields all back at their best.

Otherwise this could be one QB shoot-out too many that Rodgers can keep pace with.

I'd go along with that.
SD have the defence to trouble greatly unless he has terrific protection.
I expect a few Sacks on Rogers.

Having said that... If we do win.... did anyone say undefeated season??

Pherekydes · 06-11-2011 1:02pm

spank_inferno wrote: »

I'd go along with that.
SD have the defence to trouble greatly unless he has terrific protection.
I expect a few Sacks on Rogers.

Having said that... If we do win.... did anyone say undefeated season??

It would be halfway if the Packers win tonight. There's still Thanksgiving. They scored 3 pts in Detroit last year. I'll think about a perfect season if they reach the play-offs undefeated.

BillN · 07-11-2011 5:52am

Definitly a great game, but it was close. Pack defense was lit up on a couple of drives, but the offense just couldn't be stopped. I am feeling better and better about this year. Just a few challenging games left for them. The rest of the schedule seems somewhat easy. I think IMHO that the Lions will fade in the second half of the season.

FlutterinBantam · 07-11-2011 8:59am

BillN wrote: »

Definitly a great game, but it was close. Pack defense was lit up on a couple of drives, but the offense just couldn't be stopped. I am feeling better and better about this year. Just a few challenging games left for them. The rest of the schedule seems somewhat easy. I think IMHO that the Lions will fade in the second half of the season.

It was a win and an exciting game for the neutral other than that a lot of work to do on defense.

Leading 45-24 late in the game and once again, once again, they cannot put the thing away!!!

The Bolts could have easily won that game but for an awesome offense from the Pack.

It was only late in the 4th that the Packers D actually put some pressure on Rivers that they actually got somewhere.

Up to then, Rivers was as untouched as a postulants inner thigh!!!

You cannot let a QB of Rivers' standard step up and spray the ball around.

I know they got two pick from it but Capers in my book needs to stiffen up the D and put more pressure on the QB.

Can't be depending on the arm of Rogers for everything.

Work to do , a lot of work.... Chargers should have been dead and buried.

Stev_o · 07-11-2011 3:00pm

Capers is dialing up the blitz. The problem is that it's being picked up two easily and not to mention that our main pass rusher can't even make headway this year. Not to mention we are getting burnt on these all out blitz.

FlutterinBantam · 07-11-2011 8:10pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Capers is dialing up the blitz. The problem is that it's being picked up two easily and not to mention that our main pass rusher can't even make headway this year. Not to mention we are getting burnt on these all out blitz.

Probably because he is doubled and tripled, which should lead a few other dudes free surely.

Need to hurry the QB, can't let these lads look around step up and throw..no way.

Rogers was sacked about 4-5 times.

Capers needs to get his act together.

BillN · 08-11-2011 5:36am

Just a question: Do you all get together with other Packer fans in your area to watch the game? Here in Maryland there is a bar about 20 miles from me where Packer fans congregate on game day. That is about it. Not many Packer fans here in the area, mostly Redskins and Raven fans. I always wondered that about american football fans in other countries

me-skywalker · 08-11-2011 1:24pm

Using a blitz on 3/4rs of our D is gonna tear the legs outta the rushers and wear them down with another 8 games to go can't rely on this gotta mix it up more, with plenty more midfield coverage. Rivers ate up the midfield with well timed plays to Gates, predictable but worked everytime!

Hey BillN, not much of a 'meetup' vibe over except for special occasions i.e season openers, playoffs, SB, moreso in houses of friends I'ld image. But also with the time difference over here not many people are willing to trek in Dublin City centre fro a few drinks if they have work on the Monday morning.

Arawn · 09-11-2011 8:48pm

BillN wrote: »

Just a question: Do you all get together with other Packer fans in your area to watch the game? Here in Maryland there is a bar about 20 miles from me where Packer fans congregate on game day. That is about it. Not many Packer fans here in the area, mostly Redskins and Raven fans. I always wondered that about american football fans in other countries

A dirty Giants fan comes over to mine and we watch the games. Least she brings beer!

cheesehead · 10-11-2011 1:38am

Greetings Boards Packer fans - hope all is well. Been a little while since I checked in. Season going well so far, but certainly we're missing Collins and Jenkins. Can we continue to have the Offense carry the load? We'll see.

A little off-topic: I don't know if it's been discussed here yet, but it looks like the Packers are going to be offering a Packers stock sale, as early as next week. 1997 was the last time Packers stock was offered. It looks like it will be priced around $250 a share. It's really just a ceremonial purchase (no real ownership rights), but it's amazing how many folks around here have their Packer Stock Certificate framed and hanging on their wall. Maybe an (expensive) Christmas present for that special Packer fan in your life....

http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/09/news/companies/packers_stock/

The Pack is really riding a wave...besides the fast start, the local news just mentioned the Packers are now leading the NFL in team apparel sales on the official NFLShop.com. The top-selling individual jersey on the site is Aaron Rodger's #12.

We could be in for a bit of a rough patch coming up: 3 games in 12 days. Really looking forward to the Thanksgiving Day game in Detroit.

Enjoy the ride. If anyone is planning on getting over for a game in Lambeau, let me know.

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