Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

Retr0gamer · 14-06-2019 10:19am

Tazzimus wrote: »

Never really had issues until the endgame type stuff.
Oh, now everything can OHK my entire team, wonderful.
That and the Dark Aeon fights, some of those were tricky enough.

FFX gets very difficult if you don't keep up with side quests. My first playthrough was very challenging but when I played it again I had no issues. The Dark aeon fights were crap though. No strategy other than grinding the arena to level up enough to beat them. They also made backtracking a disaster for end game content.

FFX in retrospect was not a great FF.

gimli2112 wrote: »

8 was gr8

8... has issues. Garbage story and was so slow to get going. If you didn't understand the systems then you just spent the whole game summoning until you got stuck on the boss fight in space.

However if you understand how the game works it was great fun breaking the game systems wide open.

martingriff · 14-06-2019 10:30am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

FFX gets very difficult if you don't keep up with side quests. My first playthrough was very challenging but when I played it again I had no issues. The Dark aeon fights were crap though. No strategy other than grinding the arena to level up enough to beat them. They also made backtracking a disaster for end game content.

FFX in retrospect was not a great FF.

8... has issues. Garbage story and was so slow to get going. If you didn't understand the systems then you just spent the whole game summoning until you got stuck on the boss fight in space.

However if you understand how the game works it was great fun breaking the game systems wide open.

Yes I knew someone who kept everyone not levelled up to a particular point. I forgot the reason but I think it made bosses easier and stronger

14-06-2019 10:32am

My main issue with 8 was the area level up. You fight in an area at level 5 and struggle, come back for something at level 60 and these useless little enemies are levelled right up wit you

martingriff · 14-06-2019 10:33am

I loved FF9 with Vivi and Steiner the way you could combine to make magic swords. Monkey man (he had a tail) was limited

NoviGlitzko · 14-06-2019 10:33am

@Retro - Each to their own. I thought the story was excellent.

I always bypassed the drawing magic part by just refining cards. Helps that I loved Triple Triad.

martingriff · 14-06-2019 10:38am

In relation to FF7 I hope there is not much of a wait between the first and the second part and maybe that's why it took 5 years my hope anyway

14-06-2019 10:45am

martingriff wrote: »

I loved FF9 with Vivi and Steiner the way you could combine to make magic swords. Monkey man (he had a tail) was limited

Zidane?

gimli2112 · 14-06-2019 10:46am

8 had the greatest limit break of all. I only saw it twice I think (certainly once). Selphie had it and it was called "The End"

johnny_ultimate · 14-06-2019 10:47am

martingriff wrote: »

In relation to FF7 I hope there is not much of a wait between the first and the second part and maybe that's why it took 5 years my hope anyway

Everything they’ve said doesn’t fill me with confidence they’ll be releasing the episodes in quick succession. Quite the opposite if anything...

https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-vii-remake-feels-great-to-play-but-the-p-1835426634

“Before we actually started working on this, we knew it was going to be a large amount of content,” Kitase told a group of press. “When we started out planning the plot for the first game, it hit us again... at that point we decided we were going to focus first game on Midgar and what happens in Midgar. Unfortunately we can’t say anything more about the future games, because we don’t know ourselves.”

Kitase added that the development team is simultaneously finishing Final Fantasy VII Remake’s first game, which is out in March 2020, while planning game number two.

Some of the design work will be done, of course, for episode two... but there’ll still be a lot of game to design.

14-06-2019 10:49am

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Everything they’ve said doesn’t fill me with confidence they’ll be releasing the episodes in quick succession. Quite the opposite if anything...

https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-vii-remake-feels-great-to-play-but-the-p-1835426634

Some of the design work will be done, of course, for episode two... but there’ll still be a lot of game to design.

The need a slap of a proper Analyst and Project Manager.
15 was a fecking disaster too.

Sonics2k · 14-06-2019 10:54am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

FFX gets very difficult if you don't keep up with side quests. My first playthrough was very challenging but when I played it again I had no issues. The Dark aeon fights were crap though. No strategy other than grinding the arena to level up enough to beat them. They also made backtracking a disaster for end game content.

FFX in retrospect was not a great FF.

8... has issues. Garbage story and was so slow to get going. If you didn't understand the systems then you just spent the whole game summoning until you got stuck on the boss fight in space.

However if you understand how the game works it was great fun breaking the game systems wide open.

This is my strongest memory of FFX, I was so hyped for this having absolutely loved VI through IX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0

Tazzimus · 14-06-2019 10:54am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

FFX gets very difficult if you don't keep up with side quests. My first playthrough was very challenging but when I played it again I had no issues. The Dark aeon fights were crap though. No strategy other than grinding the arena to level up enough to beat them. They also made backtracking a disaster for end game content.

FFX in retrospect was not a great FF.

I probably kept up with the side quests as I went.
Dark Yojimbo and the three sisters were absolute nightmares, the rest, I just paid Yojimbo to take care of

It wasn't that bad a game, although the dodging 200 lightning bolts thing was fairly frustrating. I did like XIII as well mind..
X-2 on the other hand...

Evade · 14-06-2019 11:15am

I unironically like X-2. The story is not great but the Dressphere class/battle system is really fun.

Weepsie · 14-06-2019 11:21am

Deleted User wrote: »

My main issue with 8 was the area level up. You fight in an area at level 5 and struggle, come back for something at level 60 and these useless little enemies are levelled right up wit you

I think you could get through 8 without being particularly strong, or upgrading etc, which was good, but it made the end impossibly hard. I never did finish it. I'd definitely give the remastered one a shot. tis 20 years old this year!!

Retr0gamer · 14-06-2019 11:23am

FFX-2 really annoyed me but it was more to do with how glitchy it was and the awful requirements to get 100% in the game. When I found out I had screwed myself out of 100% I gave up on it.

Going back to FFX-2 if you ignore the crazy requirements for 100% and just enjoy the game it's actually really good. The story is dirt but the battle system and general silliness is great, even if Brother being a borderline rapist hasn't aged as well.

FFX going back to it suffers from a lot of what made FF13 so bad as the story isn't as good as I remember it. I think a lot was forgiven at the time as it was he first good RPG on the PS2 and looked gorgeous. It's very obviously rushed with a severe lack of end game content in the JP and US release and the Dark Aeons added in the European/International version being not fun at all and designed to stretch out the end game with nothing but grinding.

Retr0gamer · 14-06-2019 11:24am

Weepsie wrote: »

I think you could get through 8 without being particularly strong, or upgrading etc, which was good, but it made the end impossibly hard. I never did finish it. I'd definitely give the remastered one a shot. tis 20 years old this year!!

It's actually very easy to do as enemies level up with Squall. If you junction high level magic to your stats you become a beast and it's way more important than levels which kind of become useless.

gimli2112 · 14-06-2019 11:26am

I probably played Blitzball more than any other game the year FFX released.

Evade · 14-06-2019 11:28am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It's actually very easy to do as enemies level up with Squall. If you junction high level magic to your stats you become a beast and it's way more important than levels which kind of become useless.

Combine that with how the limit system works it's not hard to have Squall do five or six 5000+ damage hits every turn before the end of disc one.

Weepsie · 14-06-2019 11:32am

I really must play VIII again. I have it on my Vita. Controls are meh though.

FortuneChip · 14-06-2019 11:34am

Have Queazactol learn “Card” and “Card-ref” as early as possible on Disc One of FFVIII and it’s great fun for a run-through.

Evade · 14-06-2019 11:39am

FortuneChip wrote: »

Have Queazactol learn “Card” and “Card-ref” as early as possible on Disc One of FFVIII and it’s great fun for a run-through.

And T-Mag ref to turn all those windmills into Tornado magic.

Retr0gamer · 14-06-2019 11:46am

Evade wrote: »

Combine that with how the limit system works it's not hard to have Squall do five or six 5000+ damage hits every turn before the end of disc one.

The time I went through it with a faq I had his last weapon and thus limit break before disc 2 I think.

It's fun to break the game but when the game gets so broken the fight command is all you really need!

Captain Chaos · 14-06-2019 2:26pm

Weepsie wrote: »

I really must play VIII again. I have it on my Vita. Controls are meh though.

8 is being released for PS4 this year.

nix · 14-06-2019 2:46pm

Captain Chaos wrote: »

8 is being released for PS4 Everything this year.

Fixed

Mr.Nice Guy · 15-06-2019 1:22am

I liked FFX in spite of the flaws. There's a funny critique of it by Spoony on Youtube dissecting it in detail.

I was really hooked by what was promised with VIII. Remember playing the trailer that came with a magazine over and over prior to its release; I thought the game was disappointing though despite initially liking the early part of the story. The opposite happened with IX. I didn't like the presentation of that at all before its release but then when I played the story I liked it a lot.

Vicxas · 15-06-2019 10:28am

FFVIII was hilarious when you junctioned certain magic to stuff and just steam rolled bosses, i remember watching a fella do a speedrun of it and his draw/junction layout was unreal.

K.O.Kiki · 21-06-2019 2:44pm

https://twitter.com/aevanko/status/1141846318739968000
https://twitter.com/aevanko/status/1141838679242969088

21-06-2019 3:22pm

All this fuss because shes wearing a sports bra? **** sake:rolleyes:

pixelburp · 21-06-2019 3:25pm

Sometimes I forget a large swath of gaming/gamers are stupid f*cking adolescents.

gizmo · 21-06-2019 4:13pm

Having actually read three out of the four articles listed in that tweet (the Sankuku Complex one didn't seem particularly SFW so I left that one out) none of them are actually guilty of what they're being accused of doing. The most egregious example is actually the VG247's tweet which frames the comments differently to the article to which it links.

As for the translations, the Eurogamer piece gets its translation from one of the Digital Foundry guys, the Polygon piece references the Eurogamer piece and the VG247 piece references a translation by Gematsu which as far as I'm aware, are...generally ok with this stuff?

In any case, **** you for making me read three articles about what amounts to a wardrobe change for a bloody JRPG character...

Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

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