Dun Laoghaire Ironman 70.3 2018

RacoonQueen · 31-05-2018 6:18pm

GeraldineN wrote: »

!! Any more words of support!! ??
:ermm:

I’m not really one for sugarcoating. I did only get 2 hours sleep last night and fell while runningyesterdsy leaving my knees and hands in agony, so all that can’t have helped my interpretation of the route, I’m sure.

EDit · 01-06-2018 11:18am

GeraldineN wrote: »

!! Any more words of support!! ??
:ermm:

Not clear from your original post, but have you done any shorter triathlons? If not, I would suggest doing so before the half-iron. I am signed up for the half-iron and did my first Olympic triathlon last Sunday...I felt totally ready for the race but found it pretty challenging. To say I learned a lot from the experience is an understatement.

Supernintento Chalmers · 01-06-2018 4:00pm

GeraldineN wrote: »

!! Any more words of support!! ??
:ermm:

It's grand, some people just don't like a bit of a challenge.
There are a couple of tough climbs but sure you get to recover on the downhill bit. Try cycling the route or at least part of it a few times and see what you think after a few goes, it'll get easier.
If you don't want to start with the full thing, you could maybe head direct to Enniskerry then cut across to Sally Gap, go right and back to Dublin via Hell-Fire.
On the plus side, it's a very scenic route.

mossym · 01-06-2018 4:54pm

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

It's grand, some people just don't like a bit of a challenge.
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a little ironic given rq has a few full ironmen done.

it is better to know what it's like so you know going in fully prepared and don't get thrown by unexpected factors on race day. if you're any way worried, then my advice would be to make sure and cycle it yourself before the race so you know exactly what to expect

dickidy · 02-06-2018 10:51am

I'm just back from covering 80 k of the route. Its every bit as evil as one could imagine. I would defo recommend cycling it at least once or in stages. I had to stop a few times to check the map and stupidly followed a group of riders I presumed were doing the same as me. They weren't , but feel much more confident of getting the job done now.
What time is the bike cut off ? ( maybe not that confident )

RacoonQueen · 02-06-2018 1:35pm

dickidy wrote: »

I'm just back from covering 80 k of the route. Its every bit as evil as one could imagine. I would defo recommend cycling it at least once or in stages. I had to stop a few times to check the map and stupidly followed a group of riders I presumed were doing the same as me. They weren't , but feel much more confident of getting the job done now.
What time is the bike cut off ? ( maybe not that confident )

From the FAQ. That will give most people 4:30+ to do the bike.

What are the cut off times?
Swim: 1 hours 10 minutes + a further 10 minutes from the swim cut off to start the bike

Bike: 5 hours 30 minutes (after you cross the swim start timing mat) + a further 10 minutes from the bike cut off to start the run

Run: 8 hours 30 minutes (after you cross the swim start timing mat)

Originally from: http://eu.ironman.com/triathlon/events/emea/ironman-70.3/dun-laoghaire/athletes/faqs.aspx#ixzz5HGqyyfhS

jester1980 · 07-06-2018 12:01pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

From the FAQ. That will give most people 4:30+ to do the bike.

So am I right in saying you basically need to be on the run by 5.30 yeah?

EDit · 07-06-2018 12:34pm

jester1980 wrote: »

So am I right in saying you basically need to be on the run by 5.30 yeah?

Pretty much. My understanding is that, with the rolling swim start, your personal cut-off time will be dependent on when you cross the swim start mat, but if you aim to be on the run by 5hr 30mins from official race start, you would be safe

jester1980 · 07-06-2018 12:36pm

cool thanks, id obviously like to be on it a long time before then but good to know

RacoonQueen · 07-06-2018 1:40pm

jester1980 wrote: »

So am I right in saying you basically need to be on the run by 5.30 yeah?

You actually have 5:40. You need to be back in transition 5:30 after crossing the swim start mat then they give you 10 mins to transition.

rxchxy · 07-06-2018 1:52pm

In the facebook live chat with the RD they said that they would allow an extra 10mins for the bike.... Does that give you 5:40 to be back in transition and then 5:50 to be out on the run?

Susieqw · 07-06-2018 4:18pm

I have been doing a good few hills in the Slieve Blooms in preparation Wolf Trap, Cut and Glendine, I haven't been down the course yet but am hearing about ramps on the Climb at Sally Gap being 12%, should I panic and is it 12% and for how long!! Could anyone confirm the cut of?

Thanks in advance

syntheticjunk · 07-06-2018 5:06pm

You can use mapmyride as they have option to see elevation with grades. Few sections on that course are 12%.

bopperr · 12-06-2018 10:42am

Susieqw wrote: »

I have been doing a good few hills in the Slieve Blooms in preparation Wolf Trap, Cut and Glendine, I haven't been down the course yet but am hearing about ramps on the Climb at Sally Gap being 12%, should I panic and is it 12% and for how long!! Could anyone confirm the cut of?

Thanks in advance

The real steep parts are no longer than 100metres. None of the climbs by themselves will cause anyone too much heartache. It’s the combination of them that might. That can be trained for though.

jester1980 · 12-06-2018 10:49am

I went out on sat and did 65km of the course, from enniskerry all the way around and back to enniskerry, Maybe 3/4 parts of that 65 km where you can put the foot down.

The climbs where tough but we all knew it wasn't going to be easy being in Wicklow. Had never done any of them before, Sally Gap was tough but sharp climbs, I did find some descents very fast and could be dangerous on the day,

The hardest part for me was the hill before glencullen, I think strava clocked it at 8.5 km long, I wouldn't be the fastest cyclist but boy where my times down. For me personally if I could get anywhere near 24/25 km/h on the day id be delighted

Susieqw · 12-06-2018 12:41pm

I am hoping to do that route soon. I am very nervous of the descents too. What would you say is the total climbing for the 65km I have nightmares like 50km of climbing!

Irish_Alan · 12-06-2018 1:17pm

What are peoples thoughts on what type of bike to use ?
I don't know the area at all

Road bike or Tri bike ?

Compact gearing ?

jester1980 · 12-06-2018 1:43pm

Susieqw wrote: »

I am hoping to do that route soon. I am very nervous of the descents too. What would you say is the total climbing for the 65km I have nightmares like 50km of climbing!

HI Susie, Strava calculated it as 1,228M

Only dangerous descents I felt where after doing sally gap you take a right and then nice road for a while and then you come down form there, very fast and some sharp turns.

Randomly bumped into someone doing the course too and he warned me just to take it easy first time

I hope to go up twice more and hopefully will have a proper bash at it next two times

jester1980 · 12-06-2018 1:44pm

Irish_Alan wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on what type of bike to use ?
I don't know the area at all

Road bike or Tri bike ?

Compact gearing ?

Ill be using my road bike, two people out on front of me with tri bikes and looked liked they struggled with climbs.

But me personally I find I handle my road bike better on climbs.

rxchxy · 12-06-2018 3:02pm

Irish_Alan wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on what type of bike to use ?
I don't know the area at all

Road bike or Tri bike ?

Compact gearing ?

I've tried it on both a tri and road bike, preferred the road bike. Personally think it felt more comfortable handling on the descents

Irish_Alan · 12-06-2018 3:18pm

jester1980 wrote: »

Ill be using my road bike, two people out on front of me with tri bikes and looked liked they struggled with climbs.

But me personally I find I handle my road bike better on climbs.

Thanks for that,
Looking at the elevation profile the TT bikes wont have much flat to claw back time lost on the hills

Irish_Alan · 12-06-2018 3:19pm

rxchxy wrote: »

I've tried it on both a tri and road bike, preferred the road bike. Personally think it felt more comfortable handling on the descents

Did you notice any difference in time ?

rxchxy · 12-06-2018 3:54pm

Irish_Alan wrote: »

Did you notice any difference in time ?

I was 10 minutes (i think) quicker on the tri bike but how much of that was down to the bike and how much of it was down to me on the day I'm not sure. I don't think there are many sections of the course where the tri bike really pays off tbh.

paulie gaultieri · 12-06-2018 5:35pm

I'd go with road bike too tbh...along with whats been said i trust my road bike on descents FAR more than the tt

dickidy · 13-06-2018 10:13am

is there anywhere in ireland that sells enervit gels, cant find anyone on amazone that delivers to ireland.
or am i just better off using something else

paulie gaultieri · 13-06-2018 7:27pm

Not familiar with those gels but just get them delivered by parcelmotel / addresspal

rxchxy · 14-06-2018 9:50am

dickidy wrote: »

is there anywhere in ireland that sells enervit gels, cant find anyone on amazone that delivers to ireland.
or am i just better off using something else

At one point you could get them in some of the bigger Boots. Boots website says they're discontinued now but may still pick them up in the stores

RacoonQueen · 14-06-2018 3:48pm

If you contact Ironman or enervit they might send you some samples. Someone in pulse did that and they sent boxes full of them.

EDit · 06-07-2018 11:30am

Has anyone been up on the bike course recently? I’ve heard quite a bit about gorse fires up near the gap and was wondering if anyone has any first-hand knowledge of whether it’s ridable at the moment? Was planning on heading over next week for a trial run

jester1980 · 06-07-2018 11:41am

OH WOW didn't realize this, was hoping to do the course tomorrow from start to finish, interested in feed back.

Shedite27 · 06-07-2018 11:49am

EDit wrote: »

Has anyone been up on the bike course recently? I’ve heard quite a bit about gorse fires up near the gap and was wondering if anyone has any first-hand knowledge of whether it’s ridable at the moment? Was planning on heading over next week for a trial run

Check out the Road Conditions Thread for updates. Was closed last weekend anyway

rxchxy · 06-07-2018 12:03pm

Did the full route last Sunday morning. The road was closed from the Sally Gap through to below Lough Bray (the junction to Crone carpark). There was a Park Ranger there at the Sally Gap and said it was closed to cars but could proceed at your own risk on a bike.

The heather/bog was smoldering on most of the route with some bigger fires down from Lough Bray but they were back from the road a bit. Slightly smokey at the time but not too bad bc of the way the wind was blowing. You may have issues if the wind is coming from a different direction.

Road surface was the same as usual

syntheticjunk · 06-07-2018 12:20pm

On Wednesday morning it still was closed. Just a bit of the a smoke in few places, but nothing major or dangerous.

Susieqw · 06-07-2018 12:52pm

"It also warned that wildfires can change direction suddenly and that smoke from gorse fires can affect a person's breathing and ability to see."

As above I would err on the side of caution.

RacoonQueen · 06-07-2018 10:59pm

Road was still closed on Monday (I went up from opposite direction) was smouldering in a few places and road was melting in a few places but otherwise fine. Has been much cooler the last couple of days so might be ok now. You could alway do the climb anyway and go down into Manor Kilbride and back towards Tibradden via Tallaght and Rathfarnham, be a longer spin but you'd still get the Sally Gap climb in and all the bumps before it.

EC1000 · 06-07-2018 11:12pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

was smouldering in a few places and road was melting in a few places but otherwise fine.

So other than the fires and the road melting it was ok

RacoonQueen · 07-07-2018 8:29pm

EC1000 wrote: »

So other than the fires and the road melting it was ok

Well I mean when you put it like that you make it sound like I'm crazy :pac:

fresca · 10-07-2018 10:44am

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone could recommend or has knowledge of a motor-home park as close as possible to this event?
Travelling from overseas for this event and am not familiar with the area.

Thanks!

rxchxy · 10-07-2018 11:14am

fresca wrote: »

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone could recommend or has knowledge of a motor-home park as close as possible to this event?
Travelling from overseas for this event and am not familiar with the area.

Thanks!

There's one in Roundwood... the bike route actually goes past it. It's about 30km from Dun Laoghaire though

Not sure of any closer to the start

ChickenBalls · 10-07-2018 11:38am

fresca wrote: »

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone could recommend or has knowledge of a motor-home park as close as possible to this event?
Travelling from overseas for this event and am not familiar with the area.

Thanks!

There is one called Camac Valley it's 25km from the race event about 30 min drive mainly on motorway.

Hopefully this link works for you - give directions and where Camc Valley is located.
https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/D%C3%BAn+Laoghaire,+Dublin/Camac+Valley+Tourist+Caravan+and+Camping+Park,+Naas+Rd,+Kingswood,+Dublin/@53.3116633,-6.3472666,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x486707defb471c8f:0xa00c7a9973229f0!2m2!1d-6.1338666!2d53.2943958!1m5!1m1!1s0x4867737d69f06923:0x33cf40614ec555a!2m2!1d-6.4150577!2d53.3047279!3e0

Shedite27 · 10-07-2018 11:42am

fresca wrote: »

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone could recommend or has knowledge of a motor-home park as close as possible to this event?
Travelling from overseas for this event and am not familiar with the area.

Thanks!

Yeah it's quite an affluent part of Ireland so there's nothing that's easily walkable (or public transport at that time of the morning). Roundwood would be my preference, lovely site by a lake and town.

If you're stuck, the last few years I've seen people park their motorhome within 500m of the main transition and sleeping there the night before the event. No services obviously. This year may be different with the run also happening in Dun Laoighre.

cjt156 · 11-07-2018 3:50pm

I did most of the bike route yesterday, starting/finishing in Shankill & cutting out the Roundwood loop.

The road is still closed, though passable & all the fires are out. It's all a bit lunar in places, reminds me of Lanzarotte.

The three main climbs are a fair test, although they are well spaced with plenty of recovery & descending in between. Should be a fun day!

68 lost souls · 11-07-2018 4:29pm

cjt156 wrote: »

I did most of the bike route yesterday, starting/finishing in Shankill & cutting out the Roundwood loop.

The road is still closed, though passable & all the fires are out. It's all a bit lunar in places, reminds me of Lanzarotte.

The three main climbs are a fair test, although they are well spaced with plenty of recovery & descending in between. Should be a fun day!

Not doing the race but did the section from Mountvenus to Enniskerry this morning and hope to do Enniskerry back to Mount Venus this evening. Bit of rain to damping things down I'm hoping it will be less smokey. Reckon its all passable on the bike that way?

cjt156 · 11-07-2018 4:38pm

68 lost souls wrote: »

Not doing the race but did the section from Mountvenus to Enniskerry this morning and hope to do Enniskerry back to Mount Venus this evening. Bit of rain to damping things down I'm hoping it will be less smokey. Reckon its all passable on the bike that way?

Absolutely, the road is closed from the Sally Gap crossroads until just before the Glencree turnoff. It's just cones in the road, though; you can sail on through. There's a few smouldering patches, but they are very small. It's smelly more than smokey.

jester1980 · 11-07-2018 5:53pm

HI Folks, few quick things, this is my first 70.3, doing triathlons a few years

1) I cant see the feed station or water stations details up yet for bike, does anyone have info on these?

2 Nutrition Advise - Bit of help needed here, so on Saturday I went for a 120km spin, brought with me 2 bananas, fruit bar, bottle water and bottle of lucozade sport half watered down. I can obviously take the drinks and stick them on my bike that morning, for food do you put in the bag you grab after swimming, would people bother with food if there are stations on the course, not really sure how much nutrition I should take, I know everyone is different, any examples of what people do would be great.

3) Don't know much about salt tablets, would these be advised?

68 lost souls · 11-07-2018 9:54pm

Roads are fully open again. Legs felt dead the whole way around, like I was missing a couple of gears. Lovely scenic route. 3 spots I can think to watch road conditions/line is an offset cross roads after ballinastoe make sure you take a nice line as it’s slightly more offset than I thought, the left turn after the Ashtown uphill section where there was a lot of loose gravel on the end, and the chicane after lough Tay, a lovely sweeping foggy followed by a sharp left over a narrow bridge where the road has a massive pothole

As for the question re nutrition it’s good your looking at it this early you need to test it on training. I doubt what you listed is enough. Try more sugar like jelly babies or gels.

Shedite27 · 11-07-2018 9:59pm

jester1980 wrote: »

HI Folks, few quick things, this is my first 70.3, doing triathlons a few years

1) I cant see the feed station or water stations details up yet for bike, does anyone have info on these?

They'll be on the map eventually, about every 20k

jester1980 wrote: »

2 Nutrition Advise - Bit of help needed here, so on Saturday I went for a 120km spin, brought with me 2 bananas, fruit bar, bottle water and bottle of lucozade sport half watered down. I can obviously take the drinks and stick them on my bike that morning, for food do you put in the bag you grab after swimming, would people bother with food if there are stations on the course, not really sure how much nutrition I should take, I know everyone is different, any examples of what people do would be great.

Take your first feed on your bike, sellotape a tret to your bike and you won't have to worry about picking it up. After that, there's plenty of food on the bike, eat as much as you can, you'll need the energy for the run. They usually have powerbars on the course, try them before and see if you like them.

jester1980 wrote: »

3) Don't know much about salt tablets, would these be advised?

Usually only needed if you're a heavy sweater or it's very hot.

Milk_Tray · 11-07-2018 11:07pm

Isnt Enervit the brand now and not powerbar?

Shedite27 · 12-07-2018 8:37am

Milk_Tray wrote: »

Isnt Enervit the brand now and not powerbar?

Possibly, been a few years since I did it. They'll have it on the website a few months before the race anyway

rxchxy · 12-07-2018 9:14am

For anyone looking to do the route in full Ballybetagh road through to Killegar Lane is closed from 08.00 a.m. to 18.00 p.m. Monday to Friday from 16th July to 17th August 2018. This is the road from Johnnie Foxes down towards Kilternan. They're resurfacing it which is great because that whole section through Glencullen village is a bit of a nightmare with the potholes at the moment

Dun Laoghaire Ironman 70.3 2018

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