Dun Laoghaire Ironman 70.3 2018

GoHardOrGoHome

Does anyone know what date this is going to be. Website is TBD.

26th August would be a possible Sunday.

Tibulus

On the day of the race this year I seen 12th August written somewhere.

It had gradually been slipping further into August over the past 3 years.

Grassey

Check the tide tables for next August. You can figure it out then based on which day has a high tide a leary morning.

I belive the previously announced date was removed as it clashed with rock and roll half?

MojoMaker

Initial committed licence/contract was for 3 years - 2015/16/17, do you reckon it will be on again considering it didn't sell out and the relatively poor feedback from participants? I wouldn't be too sure.

Tibulus

MojoMaker wrote: »

Initial committed licence/contract was for 3 years - 2015/16/17, do you reckon it will be on again considering it didn't sell out and the relatively poor feedback from participants? I wouldn't be too sure.

Not sure that the relatively poor feedback is a totally justified comment. Sure its not "the perfect race" (speedbumps at the strawberry beds, post race food, quantity of turns on the bike course) but it was an amazing atmosphere and well organised over the past three years. I would definitely consider it a good race and would be entering in the future should it proceed.

Not aware of many 70.3 races selling out, but I am far from an subject matter expert. IM seem to be ramping up the number of 70.3's they hold each year. From what I see Dublin holds its own:
Mallorca: 3216
Zell Am Sea: 2439
Stafford: 2102
Cascais: 2046
Edinburgh: 1573
Dublin: 1573
Pula: 1209

These are numbers completed as opposed to numbers entered which may give a more accurate representation of the race popularity.

Grassey

Didnt someone in the 2017 thread mention that something big was to be announced 2018? Along the lines of a route change?

That announcement never materialised did it?

fletch

68 lost souls

fletch wrote: »

So no change then?

Ste_D

Its IM Dunlaoire no Dublin. Hopefully theyve done away with the split transition. Also, running on the pier/seafront in Dunlaoire would be really nice, and potenitally the cycle could take in some of North Wicklow. All in all this has the potential to be a really nice race.

Herc

Massive changes I'd say with all the race probably going south down to Wicklow and single transition in DL - I'd imagine cycle will be nice and hilly also - the fact Dublin removed from the name suggests going nowhere near the city...

joey100

Or maybe, and this is my cynical head on here, they realise some of the bad press the race has got over the last 2 years and are trying to distance themselves from it with a bit of a re-branding.

Either way I'm happy it's going ahead, it's a good day, good atmosphere and raises the profile of triathlon a bit. Plenty joined our club in the last few years after seeing it and working towards doing it themselves.

mossym

Tibulus wrote: »

Not sure that the relatively poor feedback is a totally justified comment. Sure its not "the perfect race" (speedbumps at the strawberry beds, post race food, quantity of turns on the bike course) but it was an amazing atmosphere and well organised over the past three years. I would definitely consider it a good race and would be entering in the future should it proceed.

Not aware of many 70.3 races selling out, but I am far from an subject matter expert. IM seem to be ramping up the number of 70.3's they hold each year. From what I see Dublin holds its own:
Mallorca: 3216
Zell Am Sea: 2439
Stafford: 2102
Cascais: 2046
Edinburgh: 1573
Dublin: 1573
Pula: 1209

These are numbers completed as opposed to numbers entered which may give a more accurate representation of the race popularity.

i think as well as the numbers you have to look at costs. holding events in this country seems to cost a lot more than other sites, i remember seeing a break down of costs for holding the same concert in belfast and dublin and the dublin costs were 10x in insurance alone.

it looks like the race is well established, which is good, but numbers alone don't tell everything.

edinburgh did well for a year 1 race...

peter kern

joey100 wrote: »

Or maybe, and this is my cynical head on here, they realise some of the bad press the race has got over the last 2 years and are trying to distance themselves from it with a bit of a re-branding.

usually its the ones that smile at you and when you turn back they put the knife in your back, that are the dangerous ones , not the whinners that complain to let of steam and 2 weeks later sign up again.
Most people seemed to like the race last year.


but I guess not even ironman belives they can take on the pope ....

joey100

I don't really get the start of your reply Peter, I think it might be about something else. If it is send me a PM and we can discuss it there rather than here.

rxchxy

If the bike route is through the Wicklow mountains (or just a more hilly route than previous years) is the cut off time for the bike leg amended? Or is it a standard cut off time for all IM70.3 regardless of route? Planning on doing it this year but if it is particularly hilly I may struggle with cut off times

RacoonQueen

rxchxy wrote: »

If the bike route is through the Wicklow mountains (or just a more hilly route than previous years) is the cut off time for the bike leg amended? Or is it a standard cut off time for all IM70.3 regardless of route? Planning on doing it this year but if it is particularly hilly I may struggle with cut off times

Cut off times are pretty standard. Some races have tighter cut offs for bike and run but I think Dublin uses the standard ones. Don't know of any races that have longer cut offs.

Grassey

General registration for IRONMAN 70.3 Dún Laoghaire will open on Wednesday 15th November 2017 at 4pm CET and AWA and TriClub athletes will receive priority registration Friday 10th November.

Pronounced Dun Leery, the coastal Irish town is the ideal race destination for athletes and their families offering a host of sights and attractions. Located on the edge of the Irish Sea and only 14km from Dublin City Centre, Dún Laoghaire is the perfect seaside escape and ideal for a triathlon.

IRONMAN 70.3 Dún Laoghaire takes the place of IRONMAN 70.3 Dublin on the calendar and if Dún Laoghaire already sounds familiar to you, it might be because it was the location of the IRONMAN 70.3 Dublin athlete village and swim course. However, IRONMAN 70.3 Dún Laoghaire will introduce all-new bike and run courses providing an exciting new race experience as well as a single transition area improving athlete logistics.

The race features a 1.2 mile swim from Sandycove in the clear waters of the Irish Sea in Dublin Bay before taking athletes on a spectacular 56 mile bike course. The course takes athletes past some of the most scenic areas in the region including through County Wicklow, home to the Wicklow Mountains National Park featuring glacial lakes, rivers and abundant in natural beauty. Athletes will then take to the streets of the charming seaside town for the 13.1 mile run taking in stunning coastal views before finishing on the famous East Pier with Dún Laoghaire Harbour and Dublin Bay as the backdrop.

Dún Laoghaire has a rich maritime and literary history, it is known as an idyllic sailing location where dolphins and seals are often spotted in the clear water and is famous for its fresh seafood and dramatic sunsets. This is one race destination to add to your list!

zico10

I received the above in an email and from looking at that and the branding in the photos, I'd be pretty sure the name change is nothing more than Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown promoting Dun Laoghaire ahead of Dublin City.

paulie gaultieri

So ironman 70.3 dublin becomes ironman 70.3 'dun leery'.....anyone have any insight into the cycle route in wicklow?

Seanie_H

paulie gaultieri wrote: »

So ironman 70.3 dublin becomes ironman 70.3 'dun leery'.....anyone have any insight into the cycle route in wicklow?

Last I heard was it's up to the Featherbeds and back. T2 in Dun Laoghaire with run course of laps to blackrock and back.

I guess that they need to go over the N11 without interupting traffic and M50 (obviously) so some route incorporating that.

rooneyjm

Start of the end of IM in Dublin. Only small attraction is, it’s in Dublin.

Seanie_H

rooneyjm wrote: »

Start of the end of IM in Dublin. Only small attraction is, it’s in Dublin.

Full distance will go ahead in 2019

reidman

It's a good event, I did all three in Dublin and other than logistical mess after the race in 2016 it has been a great event - the swim course is beautiful, the bike course needs a change so where better than Wicklow, and the run is well, the run. I wouldn't worry about bike cut offs if you do your training.

rooneyjm

Seanie_H wrote: »

Full distance will go ahead in 2019

Terrible news

68 lost souls

rooneyjm wrote: »

Terrible news

Explain?

Marty Bird

rooneyjm wrote: »

Terrible news

Why is it terrible news?

BTH

I've moved some posts from the other thread to here. No need for two active threads, especially for a race that's 9 months away.

Grassey

Well the route is up... Heading for the hills folks!

http://eu.ironman.com/triathlon/events/emea/ironman-70.3/dun-laoghaire/athletes/course.aspx

rxchxy

Grassey wrote: »

Well the route is up... Heading for the hills folks!

I live up that way, some tough climbs ahead

Shedite27

Grassey wrote: »

Well the route is up... Heading for the hills folks!

http://eu.ironman.com/triathlon/events/emea/ironman-70.3/dun-laoghaire/athletes/course.aspx

Anyone ever descended Lough Tay on a TT bike? :eek:

jnk883

Wow 1371 metres. That will put off a lot of people who are not strong on the bike, I'll be rolling backwards. Its up there with the elevation of hardman half. Certainly will be a challenge. But where is the fun it making it easy :-)

joey100

Beast of the east went down Lough Tay in 2014. Climbed up to sally gap from Anamoe direction and then turned back towards Roundwood the same way this is planned. I used a road bike that day and even on the day I thought I should have used a TT bike, I didn't gain a huge amount on the uphills and the TT bikes pulled away once it leveled out or started to drop. That descent was a bit twitchy but apart from that it would have been grand on a tt bike. I'd say the route back from Roundwood will be fast on a TT bike and any time you lose on the climb will be made back.

I'd like to do this course but won't fit in next year. If is does go full distance on a course like this in 2019 I could be tempted.

edited to add I'm crap at descending and I'd be looking at a TT bike for that route.

Kurt.Godel

Thats a great looking bike route, tough but shows off one of the best parts of Ireland. I like the run route along the shore too, and straight into the sea for a cool down.

paulie gaultieri

The bike and run sections are a vast improvement on previous editions imo. Im familiar with most of the bike section....for those in the know though is the surface (not cheap) carbon wheel friendly?

Statler

paulie gaultieri wrote: »

The bike and run sections are a vast improvement on previous editions imo. Im familiar with most of the bike section....for those in the know though is the surface (not cheap) carbon wheel friendly?

Surfaces are fine, although a lot of the route up around the Sally Gap was resurfaced this year by Wicklow CC with their usual crap surface but it's bedded in by now, once they don't get it into their heads to resurface any parts of it again next year it's a nice route surface wise. I'm amazed they've managed to get road closures on this route or are confident of doing so...

zico10

Seanie_H wrote: »

Full distance will go ahead in 2019

Where did you see this?

68 lost souls

zico10 wrote: »

Where did you see this?

Zico’s qualifying race for 2019?

zico10

68 lost souls wrote: »

Zico’s qualifying race for 2019?

That wasn't what I was thinking, I was merely curious. But if the full was still in August, it would be a bit too close to Kona for my liking.

Milk_Tray

Christ that bike course looks hard

jrkb

That's a class looking bike course tough but lots of fun.

Milk_Tray

I just created the route on strava, I think i'll give it a go soon!

BTH

The cynic in me says this is the route they promised in year one to sell entries before changing to a crap bike course. You'd really hope they don't pull the same trick again.

However if this is the route used next year, this race has suddenly become very tempting, even at the IM premium price.

mossym

heard rumblings the full is going ahead but not in the dublin area. only scuttlebutt at the moment but with so many different theories going around it usually points at nothing, is something was happening the rumours would be a bit more focused

Macy0161

joey100 wrote: »

I'd say the route back from Roundwood will be fast on a TT bike and any time you lose on the climb will be made back.

It's the back road out of Roundwood, so Annacarter Cross - Ballinastoe - Old Long Hill (and then the climb back up to Enniskerry). It's a good bit lumpier than the main road.

Statler wrote: »

Surfaces are fine, although a lot of the route up around the Sally Gap was resurfaced this year by Wicklow CC with their usual crap surface but it's bedded in by now, once they don't get it into their heads to resurface any parts of it again next year it's a nice route surface wise. I'm amazed they've managed to get road closures on this route or are confident of doing so...

Some of the back roads from Lough Tay on the loop around the back of Roundwood wouldn't be great tbh.

tunney

TI plugging this with priority entry emails gone out to members now

WicklowTiger

Interesting the name change from Dublin to Dun Laoghaire. Why would they do that? Something else in the pipeline for Dublin?

C3PO

I know those roads pretty well and I think I'd be much happier on a road bike!

Grassey

WicklowTiger wrote: »

Interesting the name change from Dublin to Dun Laoghaire. Why would they do that? Something else in the pipeline for Dublin?

Pope-Con-2018

Shedite27

Grassey wrote: »

Pope-Con-2018

More like Hurling-Con-2018

IMDL 2018 is the same day as the All Ireland Hurling final
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Hurling_Championship#All-Ireland_final

WicklowTiger

Shedite27 wrote: »

More like Hurling-Con-2018

IMDL 2018 is the same day as the All Ireland Hurling final
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Hurling_Championship#All-Ireland_final

what have any of these got to do with the name of a race?

Grassey

Well presumably as dun laoighaire is now the only Dublin council involved they can take all the credit!