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Andrew76 · 17-01-2021 12:05am

simongurnick wrote: »

No it wasn't. Someone wins convincingly next weekend then khabib will fight him. Conor wins then he fights conor. Not a hope he fights hooker or chandler.
Conor just needs to do the business now

Someone has to win “convincingly” to tempt him back, what sort of rubbish is that. He shouldn’t have said he was retiring if he didn’t mean it, especially after a brilliant performance like that.

Anyway, thought it was a meh announcement. Would love to see a rematch with Conor if he’s back to his best, looked like he didn’t want to be there first time around.

yourdeadwright · 18-01-2021 4:19pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

Someone has to win “convincingly” to tempt him back, what sort of rubbish is that. He shouldn’t have said he was retiring if he didn’t mean it, especially after a brilliant performance like that.

Anyway, thought it was a meh announcement. Would love to see a rematch with Conor if he’s back to his best, looked like he didn’t want to be there first time around.

The thing is quite obvious basically saying if Conor wins in domination then Khabib will come back,

Its the only fight that would generate the cash and interest needed but people will only want to see it if Conor looks to have gone up another level ,

Beersmith · 18-01-2021 4:20pm

Welcome to MMA retirements! Sure conor is on his 7th

Dermobrickie · 21-01-2021 8:46pm

I'm subscribed to fight pass and the only option I get watch ppv is to get bt sport.
I don't have sky.
I tried using a VPN but it's not working on the app?
I have no problems paying for ppv but don't no how

Dtp1979 · 21-01-2021 9:31pm

Can I just purchase a one off PPV if I have a sky subscription, but not BT sports

fitzparker · 22-01-2021 9:40am

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Can I just purchase a one off PPV if I have a sky subscription, but not BT sports

Yeah, you can still order it from SKY

tommyboy26 · 23-01-2021 5:49pm

is there anyway to legally watch the main card tonight without sky and without becoming captain hook?

Tazzimus · 23-01-2021 10:03pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

is there anyway to legally watch the main card tonight without sky and without becoming captain hook?

No.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 24-01-2021 1:02am

What channel are the first prelim fights on?

Whelo79 · 24-01-2021 1:45am

MattS1 wrote: »

What channel are the first prelim fights on?

I'm watching them on Fox Sports.

DrPhilG · 24-01-2021 2:48am

Anyone know if you can buy and record the fight via Sky or do they still have this bollox where you can only watch a PPV live?

I'm working at 9 tomorrow but I was going to buy it, record it, and then get up about half 6 to watch it. Plenty of time with fast forwarding the filler.

Axwell · 24-01-2021 4:12am

No McGregor spoiler talk after the fight folks..keep it in the event thread for at least a day or two..

mailburner · 24-01-2021 10:31pm

https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1353145819772428289?s=20

LollipopJimmy · 25-01-2021 6:21pm

Anybody recommend a good MMA podcast. Sick of Severe MMA, spend longer talking about manscaped than mma. I listen to The Bash already but want to get a few more in

ASOT · 25-01-2021 6:51pm

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Anybody recommend a good MMA podcast. Sick of Severe MMA, spend longer talking about manscaped than mma. I listen to The Bash already but want to get a few more in

Weighin in with big John and Josh Thompson is the best around at the moment in my opinion.

rob316 · 25-01-2021 6:51pm

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Anybody recommend a good MMA podcast. Sick of Severe MMA, spend longer talking about manscaped than mma. I listen to The Bash already but want to get a few more in

Try the MMA Opinion its new and Cork based

LollipopJimmy · 25-01-2021 9:19pm

rob316 wrote: »

Try the MMA Opinion its new and Cork based

Its you isnt it? :pac:

Thanks guys

Mehaffey1 · 25-01-2021 9:29pm

rob316 wrote: »

Try the MMA Opinion its new and Cork based

Gonna give it a go too.

Another recommendation for Weighing In with Big John and Josh Thomson. Could listen to Big John for days and he has a great dynamic with Josh especially when some of Josh's fights that he reffed get brought up.

mailburner · 26-01-2021 1:53am

Another vote for big john/Josh
Could listen to either for hours especially big john and neither are in the least bit irritating

tommyboy26 · 26-01-2021 3:02am

mailburner wrote: »

https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1353145819772428289?s=20

who has everyone got in this one? i know Ngannou has made massive improvements but you cant learn NCAA Division 1 wrestling. i see this going much like the first time

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Anybody recommend a good MMA podcast. Sick of Severe MMA, spend longer talking about manscaped than mma. I listen to The Bash already but want to get a few more in

not sure i would class it as a podcast but i do terribly enjoy the DC and Helwani show every monday

derfderf · 26-01-2021 4:04am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

who has everyone got in this one? i know Ngannou has made massive improvements but you cant learn NCAA Division 1 wrestling. i see this going much like the first time

Has he though? He's just doing now what he was doing before the first fight. His cardio and grappling let him down, and we haven't seen anything to show either has improved, other than learning he can stand in front of Lewis for 3 rounds without keeling over.
He still just has the ultimate punchers chance.

Chairman Meow · 26-01-2021 11:28am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

who has everyone got in this one? i know Ngannou has made massive improvements but you cant learn NCAA Division 1 wrestling. i see this going much like the first time

not sure i would class it as a podcast but i do terribly enjoy the DC and Helwani show every monday

God i used to listen to Ariel's MMA Hour before he moved to ESPN, and i thought it was great at first but then i slowly realized it was more like the MMA 5 hours every bloody episode, mostly filled with waffle, and gave up. Who tf has that kind of time for a podcast. It used to take me most of the week to finish a single episode.

Jon Anik & Kenny Florian used to do a good one tho not sure if they do it any longer. I gave up on podcasts in general around about 2017 or so.

Porthallian · 26-01-2021 11:37am

Chairman Meow wrote: »

God i used to listen to Ariel's MMA Hour before he moved to ESPN, and i thought it was great at first but then i slowly realized it was more like the MMA 5 hours every bloody episode, mostly filled with waffle, and gave up. Who tf has that kind of time for a podcast. It used to take me most of the week to finish a single episode.

Jon Anik & Kenny Florian used to do a good one tho not sure if they do it any longer. I gave up on podcasts in general around about 2017 or so.

100% with you on this. I used to thoroughly enjoy the MMA hour podcast but I went off it. Not even the length, I feel like the popularity started to change Ariel more and more to the point where he became unbearable. He started making everything about him. Can't stand him anymore.

Anik & Florian was always my favorite. Loved the Ray Longo minute. Liked the predictions where they got fans involved etc. TJ was also very knowledgeable I thought.

Another I always enjoyed was Chael Sonnen's. Although I get he's a divisive character himself.

Like yourself I gave up on Podcasts a few years ago. Used to always listen to them at work, but can't really do that anymore in my new role.

yourdeadwright · 26-01-2021 12:27pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

who has everyone got in this one? i know Ngannou has made massive improvements but you cant learn NCAA Division 1 wrestling. i see this going much like the first time

not sure i would class it as a podcast but i do terribly enjoy the DC and Helwani show every monday

Stipe offensive wrestling is not that great at all ye he was division 1 but he wasn't a top guy,

He got 1 of 18 take down attempts on JDS for example and JDS was one for one on Stipe,

He has something like 31 % takedown accuracy overall so its not fantastic,

Francis won't out wrestle him but 3 year is certainly long enough to improve his chances of being good enough to keep it standing ,

bmcc10 · 26-01-2021 4:06pm

Askren signed to fight Jake Paul. How good would it be if it was Akren who Ko'd him.

barryribs · 26-01-2021 4:15pm

Porthallian wrote: »

100% with you on this. I used to thoroughly enjoy the MMA hour podcast but I went off it. Not even the length, I feel like the popularity started to change Ariel more and more to the point where he became unbearable. He started making everything about him. Can't stand him anymore.

Anik & Florian was always my favorite. Loved the Ray Longo minute. Liked the predictions where they got fans involved etc. TJ was also very knowledgeable I thought.

Another I always enjoyed was Chael Sonnen's. Although I get he's a divisive character himself.

Same boat here, I used like the MMA hour but Ariel's ego has gotten in the way of it. I gave up when they gave his producer a slot.

I like Chael's too, very smart and insightful but some of the audio versions seem to be edited to the point where there is no dead space at all. 'I bring this to you because' I actually cant keep up with it, like it is just one big sentence. I ended up dizzy after ten minutes of it.

Thompson and McCarthy's is brilliant.

simongurnick · 26-01-2021 4:15pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Stipe offensive wrestling is not that great at all ye he was division 1 but he wasn't a top guy,

He got 1 of 18 take down attempts on JDS for example and JDS was one for one on Stipe,

He has something like 31 % takedown accuracy overall so its not fantastic,

Francis won't out wrestle him but 3 year is certainly long enough to improve his chances of being good enough to keep it standing ,

I think Stipe is a better all round fighter than Francis. Just has more ways to win, IMO

simongurnick · 26-01-2021 4:15pm

bmcc10 wrote: »

Askren signed to fight Jake Paul. How good would it be if it was Akren who Ko'd him.

Ah jaysus. I already feel ashamed of myself knowing I will watch this.

rob316 · 26-01-2021 5:04pm

bmcc10 wrote: »

Askren signed to fight Jake Paul. How good would it be if it was Akren who Ko'd him.

Askren's striking is really poor, bit of a toss up this fight to be honest.

yourdeadwright · 26-01-2021 6:17pm

simongurnick wrote: »

I think Stipe is a better all round fighter than Francis. Just has more ways to win, IMO

Your correct there don't think there is even an argument there,

Francis just has the one way but its one hell of a way

yourdeadwright · 26-01-2021 6:19pm

rob316 wrote: »

Askren's striking is really poor, bit of a toss up this fight to be honest.

The worst striking iv eve seen in professional MMA including the women

He will be ko'd , he would be ko'd in a white collar event,

People might think I'm joking but I'm not he is absolutely horrendous at striking ,

rob316 · 26-01-2021 6:36pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The worst striking iv eve seen in professional MMA including the women

He will be ko'd , he would be ko'd in a white collar event,

People might think I'm joking but I'm not he is absolutely horrendous at striking ,

He doesn't strike, he only uses his jab to close the distance for the clinch and shooting. I've never seen Jake Paul box, but it wouldn't take much to beat Askren in boxing.

JJayoo · 27-01-2021 1:55am

Jake paul will easily beat him. He will also beat dillion Danni's very easily.

He's a pretty good boxer for someone who has been training consistently for 3+ years. Would he last one round with a pro boxer? Nope but ben Askren is woeful at striking.

yourdeadwright · 27-01-2021 1:18pm

JJayoo wrote: »

Jake paul will easily beat him. He will also beat dillion Danni's very easily.

He's a pretty good boxer for someone who has been training consistently for 3+ years. Would he last one round with a pro boxer? Nope but ben Askren is woeful at striking.

You'd have to wonder what is Ben thinking taking the fight ,

Tazzimus · 27-01-2021 1:43pm

Probably "I'll make a lot of money"

yourdeadwright · 27-01-2021 1:47pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Probably "I'll make a lot of money"

I suppose Jake Paul can't really win either,

If he wins he beat the worst striker in MMA history ,
IF he loses well that's curtains for his circus

rob316 · 27-01-2021 2:18pm

If he beats Askren though the narrative will be "youtuber turned pro boxer beats former UFC fighter". It doesn't look good for MMA and it will catapult him into bigger fighters with other mma fighters. He was calling out Bisping too, but bisping would murder him.

yourdeadwright · 27-01-2021 3:29pm

rob316 wrote: »

If he beats Askren though the narrative will be "youtuber turned pro boxer beats former UFC fighter". It doesn't look good for MMA and it will catapult him into bigger fighters with other mma fighters. He was calling out Bisping too, but bisping would murder him.

Id actually pay to watch Bisping take lumps out of him ,
I pray to God ben somehow beats this clown ,

Homelander · 27-01-2021 3:43pm

Like, what is this utter nonsense, who's he trying to fool, 10 year olds?

Ben Askren, literally legendary for his terrible striking.

Jake Paul: "I shocked the world when I knocked out an NBA superstar athlete but still some people complained that he's not a real fighter. So now I'm giving the people what they want by taking on a real fighter. After I add Ben to my knockout meme collection, what can anybody say?"

US2 · 27-01-2021 6:12pm

Don't be so quick to write Ben off. If you use realiable MMA maths it shows Ben is the greatest boxer of all time.

Ben Askren > Robbie Lawler > Rory Macdonald > Woodley > Till > Kelvin Gastelum > Bisping > Dan Henderson > Fedor > Frank Mir > Brock Lesnar > Randy Couture > James Toney > Evander Holyfield > Larry Holmes > Muhammad Ali

derfderf · 28-01-2021 12:05pm

There are some things in Ben's favour. He has a massive, hard, head. He can take a beating. He is/was an actual professional fighter. He's not going to blow everything he has in the first round.
I can see Ben using Homer Simpson tactics. No way Jake Paul can fight for 8 rounds. I'd be shocked if he lasted 4.

Tazzimus · 28-01-2021 12:17pm

Hopefully he gets a good boxing coach in to help him prepare. If he can take the absolute bombs Robbie threw at him and survive, this dope should feel like he's hitting him with pillows.

JJayoo · 28-01-2021 1:31pm

I think Jake Paul beats bisping in boxing, assuming he is legit training all the time and not fcuking around.

Bisping is 41 now and has just undergone surgery, so at earliest Bisping would probably be 42 and inactive for a few years.

So if the fight was to happen you have jake paul with 4+ years of boxing with all the trainers money can buy vs 42 year old bisping who will have done very little strict boxing training.

Pighead · 28-01-2021 1:34pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

You'd have to wonder what is Ben thinking taking the fight ,

He told Helwani that this will be his biggest ever payday. He also probably thinks Jake Paul can't really box and is just some youtube reality star upstart so sees it as an easy nights work.

MrStuffins · 28-01-2021 1:51pm

JJayoo wrote: »

I think Jake Paul beats bisping in boxing, assuming he is legit training all the time and not fcuking around.

Bisping is 41 now and has just undergone surgery, so at earliest Bisping would probably be 42 and inactive for a few years.

So if the fight was to happen you have jake paul with 4+ years of boxing with all the trainers money can buy vs 42 year old bisping who will have done very little strict boxing training.

Nah!

Tazzimus · 28-01-2021 2:24pm

JJayoo wrote: »

I think Jake Paul beats bisping in boxing, assuming he is legit training all the time and not fcuking around.

Bisping is 41 now and has just undergone surgery, so at earliest Bisping would probably be 42 and inactive for a few years.

So if the fight was to happen you have jake paul with 4+ years of boxing with all the trainers money can buy vs 42 year old bisping who will have done very little strict boxing training.

Bisping has also been a kickboxer and has trained for most of his life, so his boxing would be pretty good. You don't forget that amount of training easily, plus he's probably done some form of training since retirement, even if it's not full on camps anymore.

Bisping would destroy Jake Paul.

ASOT · 29-01-2021 12:45am

Dean Barry put back into his box by Artem

https://twitter.com/Deanbarry123/status/1354889536912969730?s=19

Beersmith · 29-01-2021 7:10am

This Dean Barry chap seems like a tool. I see in that thread he is telling someone that their opinion is nothing as they aren't a fighter. This is the same lad who is an open anti vaxxer. Hi Dean can you show me your PhD in immunology there? Probably a good idea he doesn't take any extra hits to the head in sparring.

Homelander · 29-01-2021 7:23pm

Did anyone see the exchange between Bisping and Dillon Danis on Twitter. Pretty funny.

What is even up with Danis, 2 bum-fights in the last 3 years and constantly posting the most cringy call-outs.....

https://twitter.com/bisping/status/1354635711295574016

LollipopJimmy · 29-01-2021 7:46pm

I never realised Ariel was in Shameless

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