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Formula 1 2019 - Round 4 - Baku

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Gasly has been disqualified from qualifying for exceeding fuel flow.

    He now starts from pit lane + 5 place grid penalty for a new gearbox AND disqualified from qualifying.


    Hes having a great time of it these two days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    skipper_G wrote: »
    Perez P5, now all I need is Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen to crash into each other at turn 1 tomorrow and let the champagne flow.

    Ferrari were better in practice because Mercedes keep their best for when it matters, Q3! Bottas and Hamilton both upped their performance.

    Well that was an exciting qualifying session. Will the race be as exciting tomorrow? Lets hope so. I think Bottas deserves to win this race as it should have been his race last year.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Honestly can’t wait for the race today Baku is always a cracker and with the makeup of the grid today looks like it’ll be no different. If Leclerc keeps it out of the wall on lap one I really fancy him as a dark horse.... he’s only 9th and he’s running the mediums first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,292 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    AMKC wrote: »
    Well that was an exciting qualifying session. Will the race be as exciting tomorrow? Lets hope so. I think Bottas deserves to win this race as it should have been his race last year.

    There is always going to be a chance someone smacks that wall again, that is not the exciting bit - but who and when and how it affects others race strategies might be exciting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭corminators


    You'd wonder if Williams can afford to fix the damage they've got to the cars this weekend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    You'd wonder if Williams can afford to fix the damage they've got to the cars this weekend.

    They'll get the money back for the damage to Russell's car, as Claire Williams pointed out, there is precedence for that, Grosjean in Sepang in 2017 had a similar issue, Haas were reimbursed for the damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Kubica now starting from the Pit Lane as well, who will be the first car between him and Gasly as the Red Bull was DSQ'd?

    https://www.racefans.net/2019/04/28/kubica-will-also-start-race-from-pit-lane/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    There is always going to be a chance someone smacks that wall again, that is not the exciting bit - but who and when and how it affects others race strategies might be exciting.

    And if there's another car following closely behind that car how quickly can they react ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    F2 race is really wetting my apatite for later, absolute chaos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Harika


    F2 race is really wetting my apatite for later, absolute chaos.

    Was a good one indeed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Kubica now starting from the Pit Lane as well, who will be the first car between him and Gasly as the Red Bull was DSQ'd?

    https://www.racefans.net/2019/04/28/kubica-will-also-start-race-from-pit-lane/

    Surely Kubica should be pout first than and then Gasly. The 5 place grid penalty on him is kind of silly do if he is starting from the pit lane. Maybe they should have changed it to plus 5 seconds seen as he is starting from the pit lane.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    AMKC wrote: »
    Surely Kubica should be pout first than and then Gasly. The 5 place grid penalty on him is kind of silly do if he is starting from the pit lane. Maybe they should have changed it to plus 5 seconds seen as he is starting from the pit lane.

    Remember when similar happened during McLaren Honda part 2? In scenarios like that they had an in race time penalty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Yeah Kubica should surely be ahead of Gasly. Kubica set a qualy time while Gasly hasnt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Yeah Kubica should surely be ahead of Gasly. Kubica set a qualy time while Gasly hasnt.

    Gasly was fastest in Q1 prior to his disqualification, not that that now matters. But yes Kubica should be prioritised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Remember when similar happened during McLaren Honda part 2? In scenarios like that they had an in race time penalty?

    They just got a 115 grid penalty I thought? Dont remember time penalty. They changed the rules after that mammoth grid drop so not 100% sure now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Oh wow now Kimi's front wing has failed scrutineering, an Alfa rep has been summomed to meet the FIA. He could be DSQ'd from Qualifying if the Alfa rep cant explain it.

    Then it would be:

    PIT LANE
    Kubica (set time)
    Kimi (DSQ)
    Gasly (DSQ + 5 place)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Gasly will be past Kubica on lap 1 anyway so it's much of a muchness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Just confirmed. Kimi joins the pit lane starters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    As it stands:
    Grid
    1 Valtteri Bottas
    2 Lewis Hamilton
    3 Sebastian Vettel
    4 Max Verstappen
    5 Sergio Perez
    6 Daniil Kvyat
    7 Lando Norris
    8 Charles Leclerc
    9 Carlos Sainz
    10 Daniel Ricciardo
    11 Alexander Albon
    12 Kevin Magnussen
    13 Lance Stroll
    14 Romain Grosjean
    15 Nico Hulkenberg
    16 George Russell
    17 Antonio Giovinazzi *
    PL: Robert Kubica**
    PL: Kimi Räikkönen***
    PL: Pierre Gasly ****

    * 10 Place grid drop for new CE.
    ** Start from PL due to breaching Parc Ferme rules.
    *** DSQ + starts from pit lane due to illegal front wing.
    **** DSQ + 5 place drop + starts from pit lane due to failing to stop at weigh bridge, illegal fuel flow and new gearbox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Oooh Ferrari using Mediums in Q2 may be a genius idea. Leclerc has been permitted to start on a new set of mediums for the race as the set he crashed on were too damaged to use for the race.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    It’s what was known as a Murrayism, I think David ‘it’s lights out and away we go’ Croft is hoping for a similar title of ‘Croftyism’ over my dead body will I ever think of Croft as being a good commentator, Walker was on another planet next to that clown.

    He was on Beyond the Grid podcast recently, was great to hear him talk about his career and he even went into commentary mode at the end for old times sake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Raikonnen starting from the pit also due to a technical wing violation. It moves Leclerc up to P8.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    Hope this is a crazy race. Merc pace looked pretty ominous yesterday though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Hope this is a crazy race. Merc pace looked pretty ominous yesterday though.

    In Q3 it did but before that it wasn’t ominous IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Bernie looks old.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    In Q3 it did but before that it wasn’t ominous IMO.

    The key question is why. IMO Mercedes are sandbagging in practice and the early parts of qualy. The car doesn't just magically go faster every time in Q3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    skipper_G wrote: »
    The key question is why. IMO Mercedes are sandbagging in practice and the early parts of qualy. The car doesn't just magically go faster every time in Q3.

    Well toto just said on sky that the qualifying came to them as it went on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Second longest calendar ? Good man crofty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Well toto just said on sky that the qualifying came to them as it went on.

    I don't believe a word he says. He's culprit number one, he's been talking Ferrari up at every race. He speaks like Mercedes are the underdogs and not the World Champions for the last 5 years, he's lying his ass off


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    skipper_G wrote: »
    I don't believe a word he says. He's culprit number one, he's been talking Ferrari up at every race. He speaks like Mercedes are the underdogs and not the World Champions for the last 5 years, he's lying his ass off

    How do you really feel skipper ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    How do you really feel skipper ?

    Toto's alright I suppose :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Leclerc might be better off being in eight because turn 1 lap 1 could be a mess. It could be a bit like foinavon in the grand national in 1967.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Go on Checo! Nice move to get by Verstappen


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Good start from Stroll as well, made up a few places


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Delboy2015


    Bottas pulling away nicely, wont hear Crofty mention that though :P


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Some great camera angles showing the car speeds!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    antodeco wrote: »
    Some great camera angles showing the car speeds!

    Yeah the one on the fast right hander was deadly!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    The passing has all been pretty neatly done so far today.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hard to know if it's worth underfilling and fuel saving when you expect at least 1 safety car plus the fuel saving in slipstreams.
    LeClerc down to 5/1 to win the race, bookies are ****ting themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Verstappen is having issues and was a sitting duck for the Ferrari.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,197 ✭✭✭christy c


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    LeClerc down to 5/1 to win the race, bookies are ****ting themselves.

    What did he start at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Leclerc catching Hamilton at some rate...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    All twenty cars still in the race ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    For now.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Hopefully the end of the race is exciting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    What's the strategy for Leclerc? Keep him out until he's driving on rims?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Can see Hamilton overtaking Bottas but then Bottas getting back near the end.

    Hamilton has taken quite a bit out of his tyres.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Oh Danny Ric, mirror signal mirror manoeuvre


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Surely they need to pit him this lap


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    That's a few seconds lost fighting Gasly that didn't need to be, they should have pitted him sooner.


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