Luke Kelly statue vandalised

Rodney Bathgate · 12-07-2020 11:05pm

Montage of Feck wrote: »

It's obviously Frank the dirty bastard.

Nah it was Richard. When he left the ‘dirty protests’ stopped. Coincidence? I think not.

Adam9213 · 12-07-2020 11:07pm

Although it was stupid to do so I doubt the people who done it meant any harm.

12-07-2020 11:09pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Do you really think these people listen to, or read the news?

It's reading the outraged letters to the Irish times that drives them on :pac:

Edgware · 12-07-2020 11:25pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

This is like the phantom sh1tter at work. Everyone in the company except senior management and HR knows who it is.

Does every company have one of them?
I thought that it was just us

Effects · 12-07-2020 11:32pm

I noticed it when I drove past earlier. That area is a total cesspit. I know it's not everyone, and you can't tar them all with the same brush. But surely if you wanted to get anywhere in life, you would want to get out of that area, and leave it behind.

I remember being stopped at the lights beside the statue a few years ago. A woman was sweeping up her front yard. And rather than put what she'd swept up in her bin, she just dumped it over her front wall into the street. So many of the local residents are short sighted and only care about their own tiny patch.

Move the statue to somewhere it will be better respected. No point just spending more money to protect it from the animals that live there.

After passing earlier, and seeing the statue defaced again, I took a few photos of the street, and how the locals treat it all the time.

Man with broke phone · 12-07-2020 11:34pm

Effects wrote: »

I noticed it when I drove past earlier. That area is a total cesspit. I know it's not everyone, and you can't tar them all with the same brush. But surely if you wanted to get anywhere in life, you would want to get out of that area, and leave it behind.

I remember being stopped at the lights beside the statue a few years ago. A woman was sweeping up her front yard. And rather than put what she'd swept up in her bin, she just dumped it over her front wall into the street. So many of the local residents are short sighted and only care about their own tiny patch.

Move the statue to somewhere it will be better respected. No point just spending more money to protect it from the animals that live there.

After passing earlier, and seeing the statue defaced again, I took a few photos of the street, and how the locals treat it all the time.

That's disgusting but I see it alot cycling through dublin early morning, the litter wardens should be allowed use the batons.

Effects · 12-07-2020 11:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It'd likely take up a night of a Garda car, maybe two if they're unlucky. And it'd be well worth it.

This happens every couple of months. Gardaí just don't have the resources to wait that long. Pull the statue out and put it somewhere else.

TheW1zard · 12-07-2020 11:39pm

Kip

lalababa · 12-07-2020 11:46pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It bugs me that the plan of action is to move the statue, put it in mid air, or put a railing around it.

Not catch the scumbags doing it and punish them harshly. Why can't they clean it off over the weekend and stick a camera up to see what time of day it gets damaged. Then clean it off again next week, and park an unmarked Garda car across the road around the time of the expected visit, and catch them with a good battening and into a cell for the night?

The only way is to have high areas of crime or at least the main public areas of Dublin covered with cameras plugged into a central manned video hub. And have patrol cars swanning around 'on the beat' . Close and ready to be at the scene within minutes.

Zaph · 12-07-2020 11:52pm

What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.

12-07-2020 11:53pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

That's disgusting but I see it alot cycling through dublin early morning, the litter wardens should be allowed use the batons.

Lets not go full fascist over a bit of litter.

Zaph wrote: »

What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.

There are already two guys awaiting trial. Maybe that was based on local information.

Feisar · 13-07-2020 12:01am

Zaph wrote: »

What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.

Loose lips sink ships. Maybe someone has the brains to keep their actions to themselves. Doubt it though, most people are talkers.

joeharte123 · 13-07-2020 12:10am

pgj2015 wrote: »

they might see a link on facebook about it id say, rather than watching RTE news or reading the Irish times.

True, they all have the latest iPhone anyway, or they could look it up on their iPad, or Mac book pro. These folk are never off the internet.

imme · 13-07-2020 12:29am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Where has anybody said that in reply to this obnoxious vandalism?

Can you point out anyone who's said anything like that? People love to get themselves worked up about things they imagine someone might say.

It is an all the time response from local politicians and now from the North wall community association.

On Friday ' independent ' Councillor Anthony Flynn was responding to the proposed swimming facility planned for the Liffey.

No new fancy facilities, only certain locals i. E. unemployed should have facilities, of their choosing provided.

JP Liz V1 · 13-07-2020 12:38am

KevRossi wrote: »

I think 20 years have to pass from the death of a person in Dublin for them to be commemorated. But maybe this only applies to naming streets, bridges etc after them.

I would also argue that there were 5 Dubliners;

Ronnie Drew
Luke Kelly
Ciaran Bourke
Barney McKenna
John Sheehan

Obviously others like Jim McCann and Sean Cannon who joined and left after Ciaran Bourke's illness and Luke Kelly's death, but there were always 4 of the above 5 in it for the first two decades.

Was Paddy Reilly also in?

13-07-2020 1:01am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You could easily do it. I know every Garda car in my area, marked and unmarked. But I still got caught off guard when I seen one on the M1 recently. An unmarked Volvo. Was completely shocked when I seen it's lights come on.

You just need one of the lesser used cars. There's lots of parking along that road that could be used. It'd likely take up a night of a Garda car, maybe two if they're unlucky. And it'd be well worth it. The Gardai could do a bit of paperwork in the car overnight and catch up on things, or just watch Youtube for a few hours.

Then you have the people responsible. Don't give them a slap on the wrist, give them a month in a cell and then look at how the Statue remains untouched indefinitely afterwards. Turning a blind eye or spending half a million on security measures is the go-to for dealing with crime in Ireland and it doesn't work.

There's parking. Which the locals look directly down on. Any Garda sitting there will be seen and reported via many many whistles in about 30 seconds flat.

Catch up on paperwork? Gardai don't do paper in the car. This isn't the LAPD, there's no computers in cars here nor are there enough Gardai to simple sit watching a statue for a month.

I dunno where they month in a cell comes in. You mean prison? They ain't getting prison for this. They will get legal aid though.

TheCitizen · 13-07-2020 8:07am

Porky Pig 2020 wrote: »

This statue and the sean Russel statue has been claimed by the LGBT community you can find the person who claimed it on behalf of this community on Facebook were he posted it his name is Jake doyle.
What they gain to achieve from these acts when all it gains is anger towards them is mind boggling..

I see this poster is banned so can’t answer. Does anyone know what he’s talking about? What does he mean by this statue and the Sean Russel one has been “claimed” by someone or some group? Has the Sean Russel statue been vandalised? Is it just random vandalism or is there some strange campaign going on behind it.

whisky_galore · 13-07-2020 8:14am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Lets not go full fascist over a bit of litter.

Some people need to be tasered into compliance imo, only thing they'd understand.

Wanderer78 · 13-07-2020 8:16am

This is getting fcuking ridiculous now

Dempo1 · 13-07-2020 8:16am

Dear God can we please put a stop to this nonsense, lock this horrendous eye sore away permanently. This said, I'm beginning to wonder is there a more sinister reasons behind these attacks on this monstrosity

ILoveYourVibes · 13-07-2020 8:31am

Its a horrible statue.

They should replace it with something nice.

I think maybe its locals who think its an eyesore at this stage?

DellyBelly · 13-07-2020 8:55am

This is very strange. I got a warning for speculating why it may be continously vandalised previously but this can't just be a coincidence? 7 times now.. Very bizarre

Dempo1 · 13-07-2020 8:58am

Des geraghty on morning ireland saying its not locals doing this, perhaps he thinks vandals are getting on the dart, luas for an evening of vandalism in sheriff Street? I think not. This is local and appears to be very deliberate and focused

Strumms · 13-07-2020 12:25pm

Zaph wrote: »

What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.

Maybe in Paris, if somebody vandalized the Eiffel Tower, somebody in Rome vandalized the Pantheon or the Little Mermaid in Copenhagen.. the local ‘cummunity’ association would be ok and reasonable in accusing those designed and who left those amenities in areas accessible to the public for the vandalism. Right ! That’s how mad these excuses are.

I grew up in an estate where there was never any hassle, great community, residents association the whole lot and people took care in looking out for each other, their area and so on. A collection was made over time to install an inscribed water feature at the first corner of the estate, permission was sought, granted and a big massive limestone decorative, inscribed and functioning water trough/feature was installed.

It was constantly damaged to the point that eventually the residents association gave up spending money repairing it... eventually it became so wrecked it was taken away and destroyed.

Those damaging it were from a neighboring, less affluent estate. Unhappy that we’d been able to avail and enjoy of something they hadn’t got... so destroy.

It was replaced by a big flower bed, again planted by and looked after by the residents... one night.... you guessed it.. thugs showed up and kicked it to bits...

And we have elected politicians coming out and defending these people and their behaviors... Burke is now on record as being a bully enabler and supporter... excusing their crimes and blaming people instead who just wanted to add an art piece to an area.. sad and unacceptable.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 13-07-2020 12:57pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its a horrible statue.

They should replace it with something nice.

I think maybe its locals who think its an eyesore at this stage?

We're talking about Sheriff Street here, anything nice or otherwise will be attacked.

And before people go jumping all over me, I lived in Lawrence's Mansions and Phil Shanahan House for seven years. In fact my wife was born in the family flat in Lawrence's then we bought our first house and lived in Eastwall for a long time after, I'm also Summerhill born so I won't accept crap that I'm generalizing and don't know the area of the locals.

The statue, yes like most people I think its an eye sore but it doesn't have to be attacked constantly like this, but it will be. This will be a continuing situation until its removed.

Doctors room ghost · 13-07-2020 1:04pm

They should take away the Luke Kelly statue and put it in a museum somewhere.its gone beyond a joke now.
In its place they should put a 20 foot high statue of a rat wearing a tracksuit,for all the pond rats to go to worship instead.it would be like Disney world to them.would bring a tear to their eye.

imme · 13-07-2020 1:10pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Des geraghty on morning ireland saying its not locals doing this, perhaps he thinks vandals are getting on the dart, luas for an evening of vandalism in sheriff Street? I think not. This is local and appears to be very deliberate and focused

I took from Des Geraghty's interview that it would be ok if the people who did this were sending a legitimate massage, that it could be a cry for help.

Such rubbish.

suicide_circus · 13-07-2020 1:14pm

imme wrote: »

I took from Des Geraghty's interview that it would be ok if the people who did this were sending a legitimate massage, that it could be a cry for help.

Such rubbish.

The noble savage

arybvtcw0eolkf · 13-07-2020 1:49pm

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

They should take away the Luke Kelly statue and put it in a museum somewhere.its gone beyond a joke now.
In its place they should put a 20 foot high statue of a rat wearing a tracksuit,for all the pond rats to go to worship instead.it would be like Disney world to them.would bring a tear to their eye.

In Ballymun comprehensive school they've a statue of a young trollop in a tracksuit riding a horse bareback lol (for real)

Pawwed Rig · 13-07-2020 2:19pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Des geraghty on morning ireland saying its not locals doing this, perhaps he thinks vandals are getting on the dart, luas for an evening of vandalism in sheriff Street? I think not. This is local and appears to be very deliberate and focused

It's never locals is it? These places would be lovely if outsiders weren't always coming in causing problems.

I Am Nobody · 13-07-2020 2:27pm

Christian Red Logging wrote: »

In Ballymun comprehensive school they've a statue of a young trollop in a tracksuit riding a horse bareback lol (for real)

What no blue rope for a bridle?And I've never seen their horses looking so well cared for!

clio_16v · 13-07-2020 5:12pm

What is the reasoning behind the vandalism? Is there a message behind it? Am I missing something?

Pawwed Rig · 13-07-2020 5:31pm

clio_16v wrote: »

What is the reasoning behind the vandalism? Is there a message behind it? Am I missing something?

Just normal garden variety scum. They know now that it will be reported so more of a buzz knowing that the whole country thinks they are vermin rather than just their neighbours

Strumms · 13-07-2020 5:38pm

I Am Nobody wrote: »

What no blue rope for a bridle?And I've never seen their horses looking so well cared for!

What sort of tax payers money was spent putting up a big fùck off statue of sombody on a horse... in a school ?

pjproby · 13-07-2020 5:40pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Just normal garden variety scum. They know now that it will be reported so more of a buzz knowing that the whole country thinks they are vermin rather than just their neighbours

All reports suggest it is an older man who is responsible

Doctors room ghost · 13-07-2020 6:33pm

pjproby wrote: »

All reports suggest it is an older man who is responsible

A vintage pond rat no less.a survivor he is and an absolute blessing to his community.
What a time to be alive

suicide_circus · 13-07-2020 6:52pm

I Am Nobody wrote: »

What no blue rope for a bridle?And I've never seen their horses looking so well cared for!

That statue depicts a mightier steed than one would normal see tethered to a goalpost

13-07-2020 7:37pm

Christian Red Logging wrote: »

In Ballymun comprehensive school they've a statue of a young trollop in a tracksuit riding a horse bareback lol (for real)

Why did you say "trollop"?

There's a good story behind that equestrian statue. Apparently the horse is a replica of a statue of some Anglo-Irish soldier in the Pheonix Park, who was blown up by republicans. The horse is the same, but the new rider is a young woman, and the name of the sculpture is Misneach, that means "Courage".

https://thesilvervoice.wordpress.com/2018/02/12/misneach-the-ballymun-sculpture/

JohnnyFlash · 13-07-2020 7:51pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why did you say "trollop"?

There's a good story behind that equestrian statue. Apparently the horse is a replica of a statue of some Anglo-Irish soldier in the Pheonix Park, who was blown up by republicans. The horse is the same, but the new rider is a young woman, and the name of the sculpture is Misneach, that means "Courage".

https://thesilvervoice.wordpress.com/2018/02/12/misneach-the-ballymun-sculpture/

He was calling football players ‘pansies’ and ‘fairies’ yesterday.

Church on Tuesday · 13-07-2020 7:52pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why did you say "trollop"?

There's a good story behind that equestrian statue. Apparently the horse is a replica of a statue of some Anglo-Irish soldier in the Pheonix Park, who was blown up by republicans. The horse is the same, but the new rider is a young woman, and the name of the sculpture is Misneach, that means "Courage".

https://thesilvervoice.wordpress.com/2018/02/12/misneach-the-ballymun-sculpture/

Its a damn awful statue which seeks to normalizes anti social behavior.

This isn't Into the West.

Strumms · 13-07-2020 9:07pm

To purchase that, install it, insure it etc must have been at least ten to twenty grand maybe more. Is the country that affluent that ok, pre virus we can go around putting up fuçking ‘ornaments’ in schools ? I’m not a parent but if I’m seeing that I’d be wondering if there is a spare say 15 - 20 grand hanging about, why couldn’t it be spent on improving the likes of the gym, the gym space and equipment.... encouraging more activities as in field trips etc something that will tangibly help children daily in school life instead of something, to look at ?

Doctors room ghost · 13-07-2020 9:24pm

Be god lads and according to the journal the guards are after arresting a 40 year old pond rat for the latest vandalism of the Luke Kelly statue.
hope to god he gets couple of hundred hours community service and if he’s drawing the dole it should be stopped on him if all he’s buying is aerosol paints.
Take that johnny pond rat

Hangdogroad · 13-07-2020 9:25pm

sugarman wrote: »

Man (40s) charged with vandalism of Luke Kelly statue in Dublin

...a man in his 40s! Will be interesting to see where he resides.

He'd want to grow up FFS. Pathetic carry on at that age.

Dyr · 13-07-2020 9:26pm

Strumms wrote: »

What sort of tax payers money was spent putting up a big fùck off statue of sombody on a horse... in a school ?

You don't want to know there was all sorts of money thrown at public art in the ballymun regeneration that the corpo just used as a sort of PR slush fund, that yoke on the gee gee was meant to be on the main street but the locals had enough of the nonsense and it was relegated to the school.

Fellas been charged with spray painting luke, in his forties so it wasn't feral teens after all

Doctors room ghost · 13-07-2020 9:29pm

Hangdogroad wrote: »

He'd want to grow up FFS. Pathetic carry on at that age.

Tough childhood your honour and now he’s the victim of addiction issues.not responsible for his actions.
Nothing to do with the fact he’s a self entitled,lay about waster with 100+ previous convictions your honour.
And all the above on free legal aid is my bet.

Hangdogroad · 13-07-2020 9:36pm

Is it my imagination or was a guy in his 40s arrested previously over one of the earlier attacks? Not charged as far as I know.

Dyr · 13-07-2020 9:36pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why did you say "trollop"?

There's a good story behind that equestrian statue. Apparently the horse is a replica of a statue of some Anglo-Irish soldier in the Pheonix Park, who was blown up by republicans. The horse is the same, but the new rider is a young woman, and the name of the sculpture is Misneach, that means "Courage".

https://thesilvervoice.wordpress.com/2018/02/12/misneach-the-ballymun-sculpture/

Hopefully the dissos will blow yer way up, or the BLM goons will pull her down

arybvtcw0eolkf · 13-07-2020 10:14pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

He was calling football players ‘pansies’ and ‘fairies’ yesterday.

Awww, still got the hots for me Johnny boy?.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 13-07-2020 10:17pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why did you say "trollop"?

There's a good story behind that equestrian statue. Apparently the horse is a replica of a statue of some Anglo-Irish soldier in the Pheonix Park, who was blown up by republicans. The horse is the same, but the new rider is a young woman, and the name of the sculpture is Misneach, that means "Courage".

https://thesilvervoice.wordpress.com/2018/02/12/misneach-the-ballymun-sculpture/

Just having the craic so don't start looking to take offence for a piece of stone, I know all about the statue, I went to Ballymun comp. Funny enough that statue was originally erected at James Connolly Tower (opposite 'the comp), guess why it was moved into the grounds of the school [you've probably guessed it], it was vandalized.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 13-07-2020 10:41pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Its a damn awful statue which seeks to normalizes anti social behavior.

This isn't Into the West.

Into the West was made in Ballymun too.. The scene where Tayto and Ossy are taking the horse into the lift was shot on Coultry Road (7 stories flats, long gone now). I'd an aunt living in the same block for years.

Luke Kelly statue vandalised

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