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Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

  • 11-06-2019 10:05am
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    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This thread is hopefully going to receive all the ongoing posts relating to Microsoft Flight Sim 2020.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley




    £109.99 for the full fat version! Still I'd rather that than no release with this sort of specialised software.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    Not one single helicopter :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    £109.99 for the full fat version! Still I'd rather that than no release with this sort of specialised software.
    It's still cheaper than buying X-Plane 11 and the Flightfactor A320.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    It's still cheaper than buying X-Plane 11 and the Flightfactor A320.

    I think we're missing the point that the Standard Edition includes Donegal Airport! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I think I've tried every version of FS on the PC and never really got into it. But the buzz of trying to getting Chicago in those early version is still the same with every new release.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    beauf wrote: »
    I think I've tried every version of FS on the PC and never really got into it. But the buzz of trying to getting Chicago in those early version is still the same with every new release.

    Why Chicago in particular? Havent played one in decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    ill get it and Aerosoft A320/1 and test it before i jump in and switch from P3D. looks very promising tho


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Thargor wrote: »
    Why Chicago in particular? Havent played one in decades.

    Default field in the early versions and the most detailed.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    You haven't lived until you've tried landing the 172 in FS2 on a Commodore 64 using digital joysticks. Only way to get close was to set the cloudbase to 200 Ft and fly on instruments all the way down to cloudbreak, and if it was aligned with the runway at that point, that was about as good as it got.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I think I first saw it on an Atari 520ST.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    Haven't heard from Aerosoft or PMDG if they will offer some products like the Airbus Professional series or 747 V3 discounted to those who bought it for P3D 4 or 5.

    Looking forward to testing the A320!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    Haven't heard from Aerosoft or PMDG if they will offer some products like the Airbus Professional series or 747 V3 discounted to those who bought it for P3D 4 or 5.

    Looking forward to testing the A320!

    The PMDG 737 NGXu was sold for P3D on the basis that the upgrade fee for MSFS2020 would be small enough.

    All of the scenery developers are saying the scenery SDK (from what they've seen so far) is completely different and it's all new work so upgrade fees will be high enough I'd say.

    With aircraft, the logic for instruments and avionics is the same but the way it gets the values through SDK will be a lot different so all will be charging for it I'd say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    4 days to go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Skyknight


    4 days to go!


    Proof that time travel is possible.. :O either that or I've overslept(again) and it's Friday already ;) I suppose it might be an interesting opportunity to find out if the NDA's are temporally applicable
    I make it about 540,600.00 secs fro the rest of us and 281,400.00 sec for future you. :D;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    I haven't had a gaming PC for years. How much would I want to spend to be able to play FS2020 decently?

    There was also talk of an Xbox version but that seems to have disappeared?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    4 days to go!

    It's 7 days unfortunately. Release date is 18/08


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    John_Mc wrote: »
    It's 7 days unfortunately. Release date is 18/08

    Well thanks a lot!!!! I thought it was the 15th :mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Skyknight


    Well thanks a lot!!!! I thought it was the 15th :mad::mad:


    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    embraer170 wrote: »
    I haven't had a gaming PC for years. How much would I want to spend to be able to play FS2020 decently?

    There was also talk of an Xbox version but that seems to have disappeared?

    The sky is the limit, if you'll excuse the pun. ObsidianAnt on YouTube has done some comparisons on various settings. The recommended spec is 32GB ram and basically the best CPU and GPU budget allows.

    If you ask over in building and upgrading they'll give you some build and prices.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    You're really looking at something closer to 2k I reckon. Though it will probably scale, so a minimum spec is around 650-800.

    https://youtu.be/I9VAxhYBq2o

    I think though it would be pointless to use this game like that. You really need to spending 1200-1500 to make the most of it.

    I'd wait and see the videos specs after it's released. As more people will try it on different hardware and we'll get a better idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Just in case you do want to rush out and buy something, dont. New GPUs are imminent and could shake things up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭beanian


    Also is it worth waiting for the Xbox Series X which will almost certainly out perform any computer you can build for the same price? Price is expected to be around €500-600. You wouldnt be able to build anything anywhere near as performant for that price yourself.
    The downside is you have to wait a bit longer to get in the air! Novemebr is the rumourewd release date, I suspect MFS will be a launch title on the XSX.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Thanks for the tips. I think I will wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    Been looking at some videos on youtube and it looks great. Was a massive flight sim geek back in the early 2000s but drifted away from it. Really keen to give it another shot. Any previews of ireland available?Any indication on how good the imagery for Ireland will be. Will need to upgrade my hardware so appreciate the tips on waiting for the new GPUs to arrive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭Ciano35


    Been looking at some videos on youtube and it looks great. Was a massive flight sim geek back in the early 2000s but drifted away from it. Really keen to give it another shot. Any previews of ireland available?Any indication on how good the imagery for Ireland will be. Will need to upgrade my hardware so appreciate the tips on waiting for the new GPUs to arrive.

    Donegal is going to be one of their highly detailed airports, screenshot here:

    5.jpg

    There was also a leaked video of a guy flying around Co. Donegal and it looked really good, with all houses and trees showing up even in the countryside. I can't seem to find that video anymore though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    I bought this on advice from a dear friend to run XP11 & I’ve a heap of add ons from Ciano & soon to get his Helipads & I’m daily hitting 70-90 frames per second. Monitor included.

    https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/desktops-and-all-in-ones/new-inspiron-desktop/spd/inspiron-3671-desktop/cd367110


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Psychlops wrote: »
    I bought this on advice from a dear friend to run XP11 & I’ve a heap of add ons from Ciano & soon to get his Helipads & I’m daily hitting 70-90 frames per second. Monitor included.

    https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/desktops-and-all-in-ones/new-inspiron-desktop/spd/inspiron-3671-desktop/cd367110

    I hate to be that guy but that's gonna struggle with FS2020.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    Psychlops wrote: »
    I bought this on advice from a dear friend to run XP11 & I’ve a heap of add ons from Ciano & soon to get his Helipads & I’m daily hitting 70-90 frames per second. Monitor included.

    https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/desktops-and-all-in-ones/new-inspiron-desktop/spd/inspiron-3671-desktop/cd367110

    Sorry but that's a very low end PC. Inspiron is the budget model line for Dell. You'd want to be getting the XPS line or Alienware to be getting good performance at high/ultra settings in MSFS.

    Even better, build one yourself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    It not a low end PC but it is on the lower end of Gaming PCs. Which is very different.

    FS2020 looks like needing a monster Gaming Rig to get the best (acceptable) out if it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    beauf wrote: »
    It not a low end PC but it is on the lower end of Gaming PCs. Which is very different.

    FS2020 looks like needing a monster Gaming Rig to get the best (acceptable) out if it.

    Do Intel create any desktop CPUs lower than i5? It's a mediocre PC spec at best, gaming or not.

    And this thread is about FS which is a game, so not sure what your point is anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    You don't need to be superman to build a gaming PC...but it helps...

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCs-N1Eh2Z5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    John_Mc wrote: »
    Do Intel create any desktop CPUs lower than i5? It's a mediocre PC spec at best, gaming or not.

    And this thread is about FS which is a game, so not sure what your point is anyway.

    Yes they do ... (not sure that was genuine question) :confused:, and that rig will play "most games" at 1080 with ok frame rates (60fps -ish), you might have to drop the level of visual detail.

    But FS2020 is not most games. Its looking like being one of the most demanding titles you can get.

    I think its useful and informative to look at the different levels of spec that will get a usable, enjoyable, immersive experience. But that level will be different for everyone. I enjoy discussing the hardware aspect anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    That youtube video reminded me of the early version of the FS where you would fly at night and away from cities to keep the frame rate up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    I get all your points but either way my set up is what I posted above and my framerates are high, framerates high = happy :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    Guys, If anyone is self employed or has access to a VAT number/CRO Number, PC specialist in the UK will exclude the VAT. I got a 1890 euro machine for 1550.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Guys, If anyone is self employed or has access to a VAT number/CRO Number, PC specialist in the UK will exclude the VAT. I got a 1890 euro machine for 1550.

    I wonder if my directorship in an OMC will finally be worth it! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    Guys, If anyone is self employed or has access to a VAT number/CRO Number, PC specialist in the UK will exclude the VAT. I got a 1890 euro machine for 1550.

    You can register with Amazon Business and avail of the same thing.

    It's the same with anywhere in Europe - the VAT is deducted at source if you're a VAT registered business. Sometimes you need to contact them to deduct the VAT though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    John_Mc wrote: »
    You can register with Amazon Business and avail of the same thing.

    It's the same with anywhere in Europe - the VAT is deducted at source if you're a VAT registered business. Sometimes you need to contact them to deduct the VAT though.

    Is that sale registered on the Irish system if you pay with your own Debit card i wonder......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    Is that sale registered on the Irish system if you pay with your own Debit card i wonder......

    I'd be very impressed with Revenue if they had such tight integration that all sales through Amazon business were registered against a business...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Skyknight


    beauf wrote: »
    You don't need to be superman to build a gaming PC...but it helps...

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCs-N1Eh2Z5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


    It's also somewhat beneficial if 'Superman' was wearing an Anti-static line/band....lowers the risk of the patient being DOA :eek: :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    What's Microsoft's long term plan with this? Will there be a FS 2021, 2022, etc, or will the 2020 version be around for some time with regular updates and DLCs. Seem to remember they released a new version about every 2 years back in the 2000s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭Ciano35


    What's Microsoft's long term plan with this? Will there be a FS 2021, 2022, etc, or will the 2020 version be around for some time with regular updates and DLCs. Seem to remember they released a new version about every 2 years back in the 2000s.

    As far as I remember they have a long term plan of releasing DLC's for FS2020


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Isn't there a shop or market place built into this one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭Ciano35


    beauf wrote: »
    Isn't there a shop or market place built into this one?

    Yeah it looks like 3rd party sceneries/aircraft etc will be hosted on this marketplace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    It's a 'platform' so will be around for sometime. It's a tick tock of freeLC and then paid updates IIRC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    It's a 'platform' so will be around for sometime. It's a tick tock of freeLC and then paid updates IIRC.

    Yep but you will be able to install all addons with a simple click from the market place, much simplified from the previous iteration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Yep but you will be able to install all addons with a simple click from the market place, much simplified from the previous iteration.


    Just saw that confirmed now in this video by fellow Irishman Gripper Sim aka Reaction Review:




    Much better than potentially game breaking X-Plane addons which are a balls to install imo.


    Looks like he got the official release early.


    Anyone watch his videos btw?
    I find him entertaining, hes either a Wickow or Wexford man, can't remember and is flight instructor for commercial pilots so he's earned his stripes.

    I wonder if he's lurking this sub forum! :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Doge wrote: »

    Anyone watch his videos btw?
    I find him entertaining, hes either a Wickow or Wexford man, can't remember and is flight instructor for commercial pilots so he's earned his stripes.

    I wonder if he's lurking this sub forum! :o

    I find him great entertainment, the way he just jumped in to the bushplane and landed on that strip in PNG then rolled backwards.:pac:
    Other sim reviews would have you asleep before they started to roll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    A guy is streaming a tour around in Ireland at the moment. Looks amazing

    https://youtu.be/nGOfI8HA-ls


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