GSM Relay RTU5024 - anyone use this

Alangers · 03-05-2017 9:38pm #1

Just looking for advice- I just installed the RTU5024 as a GSM gate Relay. I'm wondering has anyone used this before. It's working ok but not sure how to get this system to automatically close the gates after a certain period say 2 minutes?? It was difficult to get installation instructions to have it open the gate so maybe it doesn't have that function. I can just call the gate again to close but would like it to automatically do this.

It's connecting to a FAAC 452 control board. Any help appreciated

altor · 04-05-2017 12:02am

Alangers wrote: »

Just looking for advice- I just installed the RTU5024 as a GSM gate Relay. I'm wondering has anyone used this before. It's working ok but not sure how to get this system to automatically close the gates after a certain period say 2 minutes?? It was difficult to get installation instructions to have it open the gate so maybe it doesn't have that function. I can just call the gate again to close but would like it to automatically do this.

It's connecting to a FAAC 452 control board. Any help appreciated

You more than likely need to connect the relay off the gate opener into a pulse on the gate controller.
This will have a set time for the gate to close after opening.

kub · 04-05-2017 10:27am

It is the programming of the gate control board that governs the actions of the gate, not the GSM unit, all that does is it probably sends a pulse only.

Check the manual for the gate controller and set it up for automatic closing.

Also double check that the safety of the gates comply with the recent H&S regulations otherwise you might be open to trouble in the future.

Anj1813 · 19-06-2018 1:24am

I know its an old post but... This device is very simple. Send txt message: passwordGOT002# to rtus ph no. Thats it. 002 means 2 sec.

coxy123 · 04-09-2018 8:07pm

Added an RTU5024 last night. Was working fine yesterday. When I checked this morning I couldn't open the automated gate from intercom or GSM - not a clue what's after happening - power still going to Gate control panel. Any ideas why the gsm relay addition has caused this.:(

Anj1813 · 10-09-2018 10:43pm

Hi Coxy123, What did you hear when you made a call? Maybe bip, bip, bip like no one picked up the call?

coxy123 · 11-09-2018 9:49am

Anj1813 wrote: »

Hi Coxy123, What did you hear when you made a call? Maybe bip, bip, bip like no one picked up the call?

Yes, I think that's what I heard Anj1813 - no dial tone, just dialled and then pretty much dropped but gate did open. My Gate CP is a Gibidi F4 plus if that's any use. Thing is there is a switch in CP that has a light but not seeing any light on CP itself. Any further checks you recommend are welcome. Thx.

Anj1813 · 18-09-2018 7:35pm

Hi. Turn of power TRU5024 for 10sec. Type of gates controler doesnt mater.

coxy123 · 22-09-2018 5:44pm

Anj1813 wrote: »

Hi. Turn of power TRU5024 for 10sec. Type of gates controler doesnt mater.

Problem is .16 amp fuse blows if I attach it!

Anj1813 · 22-09-2018 5:53pm

coxy123 wrote: »

Problem is .16 amp fuse blows if I attach it!

Attach RTU? Not possible. You use 5V power supply. Did You connect 240V to relay? Check it out!

howsshenow · 23-09-2018 10:03pm

I am currently playing around with one of these Gsm relays for electric gates. I find it desperately temperamental. It can take 10 hours to reply to a text message. Yes it occasionally works but alot of times when you call it you get "please leave a message..". Maybe it is the Tesco Sim card I am using?? but it works fine in phone.. One thought that is going through my mind is that FAAC control board supplies 28 volts dc to the GSM, but the Gsm is rated at less than 24Volts??
I am looking at getting a more expensive model and perhaps with an app.

coxy123 · 23-09-2018 10:09pm

Anj1813 wrote: »

Attach RTU? Not possible. You use 5V power supply. Did You connect 240V to relay? Check it out!

Using terminal board connection for power supply. Says it can have a max. Rating of 8 W but it has photcells also on it.I can supply a pic. if any good. Should I be lookinv at a different connection to connect rtu... Thx.

Anj1813 · 24-09-2018 10:55am

The connection of RTU is very easy. I use always separate ps and its always warm. It cant cose problems. Gates are connected to NC or NO relay, depend. No possibility to trip fuse. You can show pics. Will resolve the problem. And gates type pls.
Pics: one of my RTUs

coxy123 · 24-09-2018 1:15pm

Thanks Anj1813. Gate is wrought iron standard swing type. On attachment power goes to terminal 20 (+) and 21 (-). NO relay into 19. Ignore, LED's being Off - fuse had gone at that stage. the unit you posted is exactly the same as mine.

Anj1813 · 24-09-2018 2:06pm

VOLTAGE ON THIS PCB IS TOO BIG.
RTUs need 12V !
It looks like your RTU is burned.
I had ones the same story :-(
RIP RTU.

coxy123 · 24-09-2018 2:19pm

Anj1813 wrote: »

VOLTAGE ON THIS PCB IS TOO BIG.
RTUs need 12V !
It looks like your RTU is burned.
I had ones the same story :-(
RIP RTU.

I never received a power supply unit like your's from pic. Is there much to setting this up - you seem to know what you're talking about. Thx. again.

Anj1813 · 24-09-2018 2:41pm

"It can take 10 hours to reply to a text message."
Txt to RTU: (passwordEE) what will be back? Full signal 31.99.
"... please leave a message.."
Ask in ur mobile provider to switch of voicemail
"... the Tesco Sim card"
I use Lycamobile only. Important to not forget to topup every 4months.
"FAAC control board supplies 28 volts"
Too big voltage. Max 12V
"... an app"
RTUs have own apps. If u need for commercial use RTU 5025W. (Only W for Europe) Domestic, 5024, app usless. Better to create an icon: "fast call" on a screen.

Power off/on will reset mobile connection. Helpful.

http://gsm-gate-opener.com this is original page.

Anj1813 · 24-09-2018 3:07pm

Power supply on our side to organize.
I deal with RTUs from 2015.

howsshenow · 02-10-2018 8:44pm

Thanks coxy123 for the photo showing your isolation switch inside the Control box. I have copied this idea, sound

Thanks Anj1813 for all the information. I will follow up on the tips on the Tesco sim card and also look at the Lycamobile one when I get setup. I have taken on board the information on the possible overvoltage. So I have run a new "signal" cable from the Control board back to the garage where I will now locate the GSM unit. I don't have the patience for the RTU Gsm at the minute and am about to order a "GSM Activate" self contained unit which is 3G enabled. https://gsm-activate.co.uk/product/gsm-electric-gate-opener-240v/? I think this is the best all in one unit in an ip rated enclosure. It also has a second relay for single gate operation.
I will report back when I have it setup.
Thanks again & much apprecited.

Anj1813 · 03-10-2018 10:41am

Maybe in THE SAME price you want much more advanced device RGSM001S from CAME? CAME its a brand company. You can controll and setup online, more outlets... Much more professional. An app with hundreds functions. https://www.cameconnect.net/came/pages/addon/RGSM001_wiring_diagrams.html I would love to help you and coxy123, thats why very good price. Of corse brand new, an invoice...

howsshenow · 03-10-2018 9:08pm

Thanks Anj1813 - I'll take a look at your "Came" recommendation over the weekend and see if I can figure it out the "online" and "multiple outlets" etc and see if it is worth it.

howsshenow · 08-10-2018 9:09pm

Anj1813 I have had a look at the CAME connect system and the GSM modules..
It is impressive stuff if you had the use for it (I don't at the moment) and if a person could figure out how to "do it yourself". There are other forums on Boards and elsewhere about automation and none of them seem to refer to this system. I certainly don't want to be a "launch diy customer".
I would also be concerned with the running cost of this. An ordinary simple GSM unit just receives a call or text and doesn't cost the user anything only a few euro every 4 or 6 months to keep the Sim card "alive". I think this Came system would be using data on the SIM card and would end up costing the user up to €20 per month. Fine if you are using the full package of slave modules but not for a simple gate opener. Plus, I could be wrong but it looks like you need a Wireless network to connect (Broadband package€€) the different slaves if you go for the full package.

For now I am happy to buy a simple GSM unit. Yes, the one I am looking at is way expensive for what it does... but if it works on all networks and doesn't give any trouble then it will be worth it.
Thanks

Anj1813 · 12-10-2018 10:45am

howsshenow Thanks for recognising the theme. CAME is very popular in Cork area, and as I know in all Ireland. Yes this module is very advanced technologically, You right, and has much more functionality than You need. Can be used as controller through data transferring unit to some small or very big systems, or as a simple GSM opener. Will never use data ownself. As a simple GSM opener works like all of them. Doesn`t need additional modules. Needs top-up every 3 - 4 monts depends which network. As a simple GSM opener can controll gates, switch of/off lights on driveway, activate or deactivate alarm, open/close garage... all in the same time. And it doesn`t cost anything. Im writing this comment only to clarify some of your thoughts for other readers. And please come back with some comments about your new device.

coxy123 · 16-10-2018 9:24pm

howsshenow wrote: »

Thanks coxy123 for the photo showing your isolation switch inside the Control box. I have copied this idea, sound
Thanks Anj1813 for all the information. I will follow up on the tips on the Tesco sim card and also look at the Lycamobile one when I get setup. I have taken on board the information on the possible overvoltage. So I have run a new "signal" cable from the Control board back to the garage where I will now locate the GSM unit. I don't have the patience for the RTU Gsm at the minute and am about to order a "GSM Activate" self contained unit which is 3G enabled. https://gsm-activate.co.uk/product/gsm-electric-gate-opener-240v/? I think this is the best all in one unit in an ip rated enclosure. It also has a second relay for single gate operation.
I will report back when I have it setup.
Thanks again & much apprecited.

howsshenow, have you done anymore with gsm unit. Would be interested to hear back from you. Thanks

coxy123 · 14-12-2018 3:08pm

coxy123 wrote: »

I never received a power supply unit like your's from pic. Is there much to setting this up - you seem to know what you're talking about. Thx. again.

Still unsure how to supply power to rtu - I need the steps please. Was told before that I needed a 12V 2A AC/DC Power Supply Adapter but how does this attach to gate control panel..

Anj1813 · 14-12-2018 11:19pm

coxy123 wrote: »

Still unsure how to supply power to rtu - I need the steps please. Was told before that I needed a 12V 2A AC/DC Power Supply Adapter but how does this attach to gate control panel..

Ill answer u on Sunday. With some pics. Will have more time.

coxy123 · 18-12-2018 5:35pm

Anj1813 wrote: »

Ill answer u on Sunday. With some pics. Will have more time.

How's this looking?

Anj1813 · 19-12-2018 3:19am

Hello Coxy.

connection diagram Gibidi F4 plus

connect RTUS "COM" to "13 COM", RTUS "NO" TO "19 START" - BROWN LINE Picture below.
connect RTUS "+ and -" to 12V outlet from power supplier - BLUE LINE Power Supplier has cable finished with a plug. Cut out the plug and use naked cable. RED +. Black -.
connect power supplier, 220V cabel, BROWN core to "9 PHASE" BLUE core to "10 NEUTRAL" - RED LINE Power supplier has to be without 220V plug, has to have cabel or connector. Cut out the plug if needed. Dont buy wall adapter power supply!

Pictures show different pcb. Doesnt metter.

E.G. Power Supplier like this one. Cut out plugs:

Shop: https://www.freetv.ie/power-adapter/

how it looks in one of "my" gates:

I hope it helps. Good look.

coxy123 · 19-12-2018 1:18pm

Many Thanks Anj. It was the 'power' part I was unclear of.

So at 220V end of new power adapter the BROWN and BLUE core can go directly to Connection 9 and 10 respectively on connection board.

It's not obvious where your 220V cable goes to and back in again.:)

connect power supplier, 220V cabel, BROWN core to "9 PHASE" BLUE core to "10 NEUTRAL" - RED LINE Power supplier has to be without 220V plug, has to have cabel or connector. Cut out the plug if needed. Dont buy wall adapter power supply!

tech · 19-12-2018 2:00pm

Just wondering if i bought one of these would I be able to connect it up to my electric garage door

pics below

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WogxyUJHD8aRwwPu9

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFudcYGrkqKhDT8q6

Anj1813 · 19-12-2018 3:09pm

Sorry, there is lack of one pic. Just dissapeared.
As you can see, supplying 220V cable has a plug. Cut this plug out and you will have 2 core cable, brown and blue. Connect them to 9 and 10. This cable goes to power suppler (black box).

Anj1813 · 19-12-2018 3:54pm

TECH, Show pic of the back and terminals. Wll u have remote as well? It looks like roller shutter controller. Probably it could work.

coxy123 · 19-12-2018 4:11pm

Anj1813 wrote: »

Sorry, there is lack of one pic. Just dissapeared.
As you can see, supplying 220V cable has a plug. Cut this plug out and you will have 2 core cable, brown and blue. Connect them to 9 and 10. This cable goes to power suppler (black box).

Excellent. Great to have the pics! I'll get my hands on one of these and let you know when I have a chance to install.

tech · 20-12-2018 1:08am

ill get pics tomorrow of the full controller, Yes I have 2 x remotes also with this. would like to add GSM gateway to this if possible.

thanks for your help

coxy123 · 20-12-2018 11:21am

Would this power adapter do?

howsshenow · 22-12-2018 7:48pm

Hi all, I'll just update on my Post No 19 from October.
After getting frustrated with the RTU Gsm (maybe my own fault?) I ended up purchasing a GSM Activated unit https://gsm-activate.co.uk/product/gsm-electric-gate-opener-240v/?
This GSM is a self contained unit which takes 240 volt and has its own inbuilt transformer in a high quality IP box. It has two inbuilt relays and a sim active function.
The reason I am only getting back now is that I had alot of problems initially with the main relay randomly energising (and therby opening the gate if I had it connnected). The Company dispatched another control board to me immediately on hearing I had problems. The problem remained the same with the new board. At this stage I tried a 3 network sim card from my own phone and the Gsm worked perfectly. As I wanted to use a Lycamobile Sim I again got back onto the Company and they arranged for the units to be returned along with the sim cards I was using.
They quickly identified that there was problem with the settings on the Lycamobile Sim card and updated them for me.(I'm not sure what they did exactly, they said it can be done with the Sim in a mobile phone). They could not however get my Tesco mobile Sim card to work with the Gsm unit!. I had no problem with this as it now costs €15/month to operate.

The Lycamobile Sim was my choice anyway in terms of running costs and has been working perfectly since I got the Gsm unit back. The unit runs with minimum programming and replies withing a minute to imple text commands & is good for 3G networks.

Overall I am very impressed with the Company and the quality of the Gsm unit and am happy to have bought from a Company who specialise in Gsm units and who have great customer service.
Personally speaking I would not touch a generic GSM unit and messing around with transformers and reset buttons and waiting ages for text replies.
There are other Irish companies selling GSM units also and who will also give good customer service.

Thanks again for your inputs.

tech · 23-12-2018 5:02pm

this is the panel of the electric garage door, do you think i could connect up a GSM gateway

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tech · 28-12-2018 5:48pm

this is the panel from the garage door, do you think I could setup the GSM to open the door?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/o8p4y3jmneCrFWZ69
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eeZaGkXdter9SfFP6

tech · 30-12-2018 2:21pm

Anyone

tech · 03-01-2019 7:07pm

anyone

tech · 12-01-2019 8:56pm

can anyone help
?

thanks

tech · 24-01-2019 11:50pm

Anyone know?

tech · 27-01-2019 6:16pm

tech wrote: »

Anyone know?

Any use one of these lately?

tech · 27-01-2019 7:35pm

tech wrote: »

Anyone know?

Any use one of these lately?

tech · 22-03-2020 7:55pm

does anyone know to to apply a restrication on the RTU only to accept calls from certain numbers? have the app and and it has the option but it doesnt work

this is what codes I have tried

1234#AU#0035387123456789#

1234#AU#087123456789#

I get back Allow All numbers not can access it , but it wont open from any number when I use the above commands, the unit only works if I use the code

1234#AA#

But then any number can active the unit, even someone who just dials the wrong number would be able to open the garage!

Anj1813 · 26-03-2020 9:48pm

Hi.
try this: (what model you have? Pict please.)

1234A010#0035387123456789#
and so on...
than:
1234AUT#

explanation:
1234 - password
A - command...
010 - the Ph No is 10th on the list of phone numbers(you can use any of your numbers)
# - command devider
0035387123456789 - phone No (has to have 00353 format if IE, 00 not +)
# - END
AUT - command...

any way:
I have years exp with RTUs... and I just gave up. Just avoid. Soft on it is... And no one will help you. RTUs are made in a few "companies" in China and all of them have the same issues. Maybe on github you can find some thing, but you need to know programming than. Good luck.
ps. go back here if youll find the cure, please.

tech · 26-03-2020 10:31pm

thanks

ill try this and let you know, its a RTU 5035 I have.

tech · 27-03-2020 9:48pm

hi

when I ran this command

1234A010#0035387123456789#

I got command error, please re send command

:mad:

Anj1813 · 28-03-2020 1:03am

Try this: 1234#TEL0035387123456789#01# you know 01, 02, 03... but txt will come back only to 01 and 02!
!!! Phone No should have format 00353... (as it works, right?) but this model 5035 goes from nowhere so maybe +353 will work ("+" works in Chech and Slovakia as I know)
than: 1234#AU# to get txt confirming "Only Aut Ph No"

...if doesnt work, reset unit and should be fine with out "1234#AU#" as its factory setup.

tech · 28-03-2020 8:46pm

thanks

when I send the command to restrist on allowed numbers

1234#AU#
THEN

1234#TEL0035387123456789#01#

I get back

TEL: 253:0035387123456789

but then no number will active this unit when I dial in

I have tried to reset

1234#RESET#
I get command error please re send command .............
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Anj1813 · 13-04-2020 1:12pm

You have only 3! min to send command 1234#RESET# after switching RTU on. (red light has to be constant on - not blinking)

GSM Relay RTU5024 - anyone use this

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