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Frampton/Fury/Barnes fight card Windsor Park: Aug 18

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    You do realise Tyson Fury is British too?

    No one wants him!


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    You do realise Tyson Fury is British too?

    Oh noo mate I thought he was fecking Australian!!

    I obviously knew he was such, but the British media have made it clear they do not like him, so he's not their big hope.

    Try being pedantic a bit harder next time though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Again you avoid any discussion about boxing. You're being ignored now.

    I'm pretty sure that Anthony Joshua did't go to boarding school.

    I'm also certain that I played on a Minor team that hammered you 'tough' Strabane lads in a county final...


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    walshb wrote: »
    This is like a man vs. a boy...

    Yet he is fighting half the size of fury in his home town and bleeding from the face. But Fury not getting hit at all in 10 rounds with a clean face is such a let down. Don't show your bias too much.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    Yet he is fighting half the size of fury in his home town and bleeding from the face. But Fury not getting hit at all in 10 rounds with a clean face is such a let down. Don't show your bias too much.

    You are so weird


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    The Aussie is looking fairly tough, is carl getting frustrated?


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    I'm pretty sure that Anthony Joshua did't go to boarding school.

    I'm also certain that I played on a Minor team that hammered you 'tough' Strabane lads in a county final...

    #1 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-4358756/Anthony-Joshua-believes-Nigerian-boarding-school-helped.html

    Anthony Joshua reveals how beatings at boarding school instilled discipline --- yet.... In 2009, Joshua was put on remand in Reading Prison for what he describes as "fighting and other crazy stuff". He was made to wear an electronic tag on his ankle when released.

    In March 2011, Joshua was pulled over by the police for speeding in Colindale, North London. He was found with 8 ounces of herbal cannabis hidden in a sports bag in his Mercedes-Benz. He was charged with possession with intent to supply a class B drug, an offence that carries a maximum 14-year sentence. Joshua was suspended from GB boxing squad and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours' unpaid work after pleading guilty at crown court

    What a terrible star for the sport. The Great British hope as I've said.

    #2 point, stay on the topic of boxing please. You're embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    begbysback wrote: »
    The Aussie is looking fairly tough, is carl getting frustrated?

    Frampton of old would be more on top..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,460 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Don't show your bias too much.

    Hahahaha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    put the internet down!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    #1 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-4358756/Anthony-Joshua-believes-Nigerian-boarding-school-helped.html

    Anthony Joshua reveals how beatings at boarding school instilled discipline --- yet.... In 2009, Joshua was put on remand in Reading Prison for what he describes as "fighting and other crazy stuff". He was made to wear an electronic tag on his ankle when released.

    In March 2011, Joshua was pulled over by the police for speeding in Colindale, North London. He was found with 8 ounces of herbal cannabis hidden in a sports bag in his Mercedes-Benz. He was charged with possession with intent to supply a class B drug, an offence that carries a maximum 14-year sentence. Joshua was suspended from GB boxing squad and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours' unpaid work after pleading guilty at crown court

    What a terrible star for the sport. The Great British hope as I've said.

    #2 point, stay on the topic of boxing please. You're embarrassing.

    You called Joshua a nonce. Link, please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    walshb wrote: »
    Frampton of old would be more on top..

    It's still fairly easy, though carl seems to want to take him out, not sure he will - guy looks tough


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    You called Joshua a nonce. Link, please.

    I just linked it in that post. Try keep up.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    Carl Frampton being heavy handed has to be the biggest myth in boxing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Carl Frampton being heavy handed has to be the biggest myth in boxing

    It was never out there to begin with...

    Decent puncher. That’s all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    #1 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-4358756/Anthony-Joshua-believes-Nigerian-boarding-school-helped.html

    Anthony Joshua reveals how beatings at boarding school instilled discipline --- yet.... In 2009, Joshua was put on remand in Reading Prison for what he describes as "fighting and other crazy stuff". He was made to wear an electronic tag on his ankle when released.

    In March 2011, Joshua was pulled over by the police for speeding in Colindale, North London. He was found with 8 ounces of herbal cannabis hidden in a sports bag in his Mercedes-Benz. He was charged with possession with intent to supply a class B drug, an offence that carries a maximum 14-year sentence. Joshua was suspended from GB boxing squad and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours' unpaid work after pleading guilty at crown court

    What a terrible star for the sport. The Great British hope as I've said.

    #2 point, stay on the topic of boxing please. You're embarrassing.

    I never knew that AJ went to boarding school, knoew he had a cloudy past though. I'm not his biggest fan so i won't try to defend him. as Others have said, calling him a 'nonce' is out of order.

    On Point 2, I doubt you are actually from Strabane or even Tyrone


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    You can tell Jackson has very little power in his loaded punches at all. Looks like he'll need to load a very good combo to win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I just linked it in that post. Try keep up.

    Don't use words you don't know the meaning of.

    Also, a decent troll shouldn't come out with the level of nonsense you have. You need to reconsider your trolling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    I never knew that AJ went to boarding school, knoew he had a cloudy past though. I'm not his biggest fan so i won't try to defend him. as Others have said, calling him a 'nonce' is out of order.

    On Point 2, I doubt you are actually from Strabane or even Tyrone

    With a history just for what he actually got caught for. Coming from a boarding school privileged upbringing. Using urban American slang when speaking. Not fighting Wilder, and not impressing in any fight he's fought in so far yet being a HW.

    Yeah seems like the definition of an overrated nonce to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Don't know much about boxing but was Barnes hit in the stomach and down he goes? Never saw that happen before. Is that normal?


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    With a history just for what he actually got caught for. Coming from a boarding school privileged upbringing. Using urban American slang when speaking. Not fighting Wilder, and not impressing in any fight he's fought in so far yet being a HW.

    Yeah seems like the definition of an overrated nonce to me.
    You don't even know the meaning of the word you clown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Just ask AJ for your lunch money back and be done with it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Don't know much about boxing but was Barnes hit in the stomach and down he goes? Never saw that happen before. Is that normal?

    What?


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    You don't even know the meaning of the word you clown

    Don't call me a clown when people throw the accusation I use around all the time. Using pedantics like that would get you knocked out at the pub if you tried them. Hence why you're all in home by yourselves tonight. Utter balloon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Don't know much about boxing but was Barnes hit in the stomach and down he goes? Never saw that happen before. Is that normal?

    He got a bang on his solar plexus and down he went. The punch was not below the belt so was legit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    With a history just for what he actually got caught for. Coming from a boarding school privileged upbringing. Using urban American slang when speaking. Not fighting Wilder, and not impressing in any fight he's fought in so far yet being a HW.

    Yeah seems like the definition of an overrated nonce to me.

    See this is why I am certain you are not from Tyrone, you are deliberatley trying to give Tyrone people a bad name.

    Mind you Strabane people are nuts


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    walshb wrote: »
    Frampton of old would be more on top..

    Guy who used to train with him in the gym never seen him fight any better and says this is his best performance ever.

    Tell me more though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    walshb wrote:
    What?


    I saw Barnes rolling around on the floor. He was hit in the stomach I think? Bout over. Never seen that before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Guy who used to train with him in the gym never seen him fight any better and says this is his best performance ever.

    Tell me more though.

    More?

    It was David Haye!🤔


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I saw Barnes rolling around on the floor. He was hit in the stomach I think? Bout over. Never seen that before.

    Never seen a body shot KO?

    Well, if not then that was one of the best you could see..


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    walshb wrote: »
    More?

    It was David Haye!🤔

    And you are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    And you are?

    walshb, duh!


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    See this is why I am certain you are not from Tyrone, you are deliberatley trying to give Tyrone people a bad name.

    Mind you Strabane people are nuts

    Yeah people from Strabane are understandable and not culchies with bootcut jeans and plaid shirts talking about their motors. Outside of the Tyrone GAA team I never associate myself with the county. Doesn't seem like you do either, enjoy your British boxing hype machine and watching the EPL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I saw Barnes rolling around on the floor. He was hit in the stomach I think? Bout over. Never seen that before.

    Welcome to boxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I saw Barnes rolling around on the floor. He was hit in the stomach I think? Bout over. Never seen that before.

    It happens on occasion


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    walshb wrote:
    Never seen a body shot KO?

    walshb wrote:
    Well, if not then that was one of the best you could see..


    No never. As I said I don't know much about boxing. I thought body shots were to wear the opponent down and then a ko to the face?
    Where is this solar plexus? Barnes fell like the proverbial sack of potatoes. Why do boxers punch the waist? Is it to hit the solar plexus or to soften someone up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I saw Barnes rolling around on the floor. He was hit in the stomach I think? Bout over. Never seen that before.


    Are you being sarcastic? I didn't see the fight. Just logged on here to see result/commentary



    If you were ever on the end of such a dig , sunk right in to the "sweet spot", you'd feckin' know about it. The wind just goes out of your body. You'll just crumple.



    You can get stunned with a punch to the head and potentially stay up for long enough to recover through pure muscle memory and experience. But when you get hit properly to the body, you're only going in one direction - and that's down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Yeah people from Strabane are understandable and not culchies with bootcut jeans and plaid shirts talking about their motors. Outside of the Tyrone GAA team I never associate myself with the county. Doesn't seem like you do either, enjoy your British boxing hype machine and watching the EPL.

    No I won't!
    Pretty sure I haven't seen you at any Tyrone games this year, because you weren't there!
    What part of Strabane are you from, what's your club?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    bobbyss wrote: »
    Where is this solar plexus?

    In between the solar system and the Milky Way!


  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Strabanimal


    GGG got Macklin with a bodyshot.

    Livershots happen all the time in MMA too. I was just thinking of the recent discussion about people never seeming to overcome them after they get hit in the liver hard and clean. Watch Scott Smith vs Pete Sell, only time I've seen a comeback. Smith suffered a few broken ribs from that body shot and looked in worse pain after the fight than the guy he knocked out did.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Who was up there last night, lads? Just wondering what is was actually like in the p1ssing rain?



    I heard Tyson in the Post Fight Press Conference saying that the Belfast crowd gave him such a great response on the ring walk. Said it was the most epic ring walk ever - it didn't seem like that on the TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Who was up there last night, lads? Just wondering what is was actually like in the p1ssing rain?



    I heard Tyson in the Post Fight Press Conference saying that the Belfast crowd gave him such a great response on the ring walk. Said it was the most epic ring walk ever - it didn't seem like that on the TV.

    Thank you..... *pause to remember town you're currently in *..... Springfield. You're the best crowd ever. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Are you being sarcastic? I didn't see the fight. Just logged on here to see result/commentary



    If you were ever on the end of such a dig , sunk right in to the "sweet spot", you'd feckin' know about it. The wind just goes out of your body. You'll just crumple.



    You can get stunned with a punch to the head and potentially stay up for long enough to recover through pure muscle memory and experience. But when you get hit properly to the body, you're only going in one direction - and that's down.


    No, not being sarcastic at all. Just ignorant of boxing.

    The solar plexus is that part of your body where you get winded, where the stuffing gets knocked out of you, more or less?

    But as I said before I have never seen a boxer been hit in the solar plexus before and collapse as Barnes did. At first I thought he was caught under the belt.

    Is being caught in the solar plexus common in boxing? Or was it just a lucky punch from yer man? When boxers hit the body, is it to 'find' the solar plexus or just to generally weaken the opponent?

    I would have seen Muhammad Ali box often. How often did he KO someone by finding the solar plexus?


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭thegrowreport


    aaand back on topic:

    what did people think of Fury? I have not seen it yet - was he all that good? Was he a 'heavyweight Sugar Ray Leonard' as he said he would be?
    Is he REALLY back? Will he be good enough for Wilder or (as I suspect) he has talked his way back into one final big payday and then ride off into the sunset.

    Poor ould Paddy Barnes. That finish looked painful. Where for him now? Few more fights to make a few quid or can he come back as a threat in the flyweight division?

    And good for Carl Frampton. He has waited for a big night at Windsor Park and he got it in spades last night! Would love to see an all Irish Bantam weight unification bout between him and the newest Irish boxing champ - TJ Doheny!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    bobbyss wrote: »
    No never. As I said I don't know much about boxing. I thought body shots were to wear the opponent down and then a ko to the face?
    Where is this solar plexus? Barnes fell like the proverbial sack of potatoes. Why do boxers punch the waist? Is it to hit the solar plexus or to soften someone up?

    If you google "Arturo Gatti" you will see what a good boxer can do with his body shots. I remember watching him years ago absolutely levelling a guy with a body shot, so much so that about 5 minutes after when the camera panned around the ring the lad was still down buckled with pain!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk



    And good for Carl Frampton. He has waited for a big night at Windsor Park and he got it in spades last night! Would love to see an all Irish Bantam weight unification bout between him and the newest Irish boxing champ - TJ Doheny!

    He just about made featherweight for this fight, not a hope he gets back down to fight at super bantam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,967 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Fury looks to be miles away from fighting Joshua. And he w'ont be prepared by fighting the likes of that guy on Saturday.

    But then again he c'ant take a risk at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Fury looks to be miles away from fighting Joshua. And he w'ont be prepared by fighting the likes of that guy on Saturday.

    But then again he c'ant take a risk at this stage.

    You think he's miles away from fighting Wilder? As in ready and able and possibly able to win?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,618 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    pac_man wrote: »
    Barnes has shown nothing in his short pro career before last night to suggest he'd be ready for a world title.
    He had the perfect opportunity last night against someone who isn't great but might still be improving due to his age.
    Barnes biggest issue for me from day one is his engine.

    I've been reading online about him not being ready yet.

    I don't think it has much to do with this. 6 fights or 60. He is who he is.

    Little too weak for me to be at elite level. He has the punch mechanics and fluidity, but he has no power and no physical strength really. If he had a decent punch and some size/strength he would have beaten that lad the other night.

    Paddy won't be able to keep off strong fighters who can punch.....he's just not strong enough, and he is no defensive master.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,460 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    walshb wrote: »

    Paddy won't be able to keep off strong fighters who can punch.....he's just not strong enough, and he is no defensive master.

    There's more to it than that though isn't there?
    Say Wayne McCullough for instance.
    I wouldn't have classed him as strong or a defensive master.
    Yet if Wayne was in with that level of opponent that Barnes faced the other night, I reckon he would have wiped the floor with him.


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