Toy Story 4

TheIrishGrover · 24-06-2019 10:22am

As most have said: It didn't need to exist but it's still a very good film (If not quite up to the heights of TS3)

I did feel the original gang were very underused. I was wondering why all the promotion was about Tom Hanks. I knew he was the focus of the movie (Like all of them) but there seemed to be very little promotion from Tim Allen and now we know why: It's 80% Boo and Woody.

Forky was very annoying initially but grew on you - Exactly as intended. And Gabby Gabby was probably the best "baddie"

. Her speech to Woody towards the end was fantastic. I wasn't too gone on the fluffy toys. I thought their "Plans" were hilarious but apart from that they didn't do it for me.

Now Duke Caboom on the other hand...... Simply fantastic. But please DON'T give us a spinoff movie. We saw exactly enough of him.

The last scene:

"Is Woody a Lost Toy?" "Not anymore"

was fantastic. Not quite as good as "So long cowboy" but still excellent.

But please PLEASE let that be then end of it. They had 3 fantastic movie and one very good movie. Stop... Now. I really don't want to see

The continuing adventures of Wody and Boo

So: Not needed but the pulled it off with a nice love story/who-am-I Story and two great additional characters but stop now please.

homerun_homer · 24-06-2019 10:45am

While the idea of TS4 annoyed me once announced, I was hopeful that there were better intentions behind making it than just to keep milking the cash cow. If this is the quality of a Toy Story sequel post the original trilogy then I'm happy for the series to continue. I enjoyed every bit of it, it made me laugh, the new characters were fun, it asked bigger, more philosophical questions than before in it's own way, and served as a new close to the series should it be decided to stop there.

speedboatchase · 24-06-2019 4:49pm

Loved the trilogy and had no interest in seeing this. So I didn't.

Might catch it some day on iTunes but in no rush. Seems like the US box office was strong but fell below Disney's expectations and well below Incredibles 2: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/06/toy-story-4-box-office-summer-sequels

They should've left it alone.

Cienciano · 24-06-2019 8:29pm

Saw it yesterday. It wasn't bad, but it was definitely a tacked on cash grab. Worst toy story by a mile, but I'd still give it a 7 out of 10. I wouldn't go out of my way to see it

NIMAN · 24-06-2019 11:00pm

Saw it yesterday with the kids.

Echoing what many have said here already. Feels like a film too far for the franchise, but it was enjoyable all the same, considering I would take the kids to other animated films throughout the years that couldn't lace the boots of TS4.

So despite Forky, Duke Kaboom, the decent ending etc, I do think they should have left the series at TS3.

murpho999 · 25-06-2019 5:38pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Saw it yesterday. It wasn't bad, but it was definitely a tacked on cash grab. Worst toy story by a mile, but I'd still give it a 7 out of 10. I wouldn't go out of my way to see it

Eh , but you did didn't you unless you go by a cinema everyday?

I saw it yesterday and really enjoyed it and was so happy it was not a bad film or the start of a new trilogy.

For me it provided perfect closure for Woodie and the gang.

I would argue it's better than Toy Story One but all four are great films.

It should be left as this now.

El Duda · 25-06-2019 8:26pm

My initial reaction is

Toy Story 1 - 10

Toy Story 2 - 10

Toy Story 3 - 10

Toy Story 4 - 7

Still enjoyed it but didn't really care for the conclusion.

silverharp · 25-06-2019 9:12pm

Apparently the BBC were shading it because there weren't enough toys of colour or some such nonsense, is there any pleasing these people

Cienciano · 25-06-2019 9:14pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Eh , but you did didn't you unless you go by a cinema everyday?

I saw it yesterday and really enjoyed it and was so happy it was not a bad film or the start of a new trilogy.

For me it provided perfect closure for Woodie and the gang.

I would argue it's better than Toy Story One but all four are great films.

It should be left as this now.

I only went to see it cos the weather was terrible and I told the kids they I'd bring them to the cinema. Personally I wouldn't recommend people to make a night out of it. I'm saying that as a person who expected toy story 3 to be terrible but loved it. I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's always going to be subjective

johnny_ultimate · 25-06-2019 9:17pm

silverharp wrote: »

Apparently the BBC were shading it because there weren't enough toys of colour or some such nonsense, is there any pleasing these people

Pfft that's nothing. YouTube as ever hosts the most catastrophically dumb culture wars take on this film, courtesy of Grace Randolph:

https://twitter.com/aratazannataz/status/1142354347063308288

Beechwoodspark · 25-06-2019 9:20pm

Saw it with the missus the 3 yr old and 7 yr old over wkend.

Missus- loved it.

7yr old- bored from early on but engaged with the more energetic set pieces.

3 yr old- enjoyed bits of it but bored too after about 30 mins. Kept asking to go home

Guy:Incognito · 25-06-2019 9:22pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

But please PLEASE let that be then end of it. They had 3 fantastic movie and one very good movie. Stop... Now. I really don't want to see

You know you could just not go see them if there are more?

This is like the whinging about sequals apparently ruining franchises etc. Just dont watch them if you feel a movie is "done". A sequal cant ruin a good film.

Went to see this at the weekend . Enjoyed it and so did the kids.

gimli2112 · 25-06-2019 9:26pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Saw it with the missus the 3 yr old and 7 yr old over wkend.

Missus- loved it.

7yr old- bored from early on but engaged with the more energetic set pieces.

3 yr old- enjoyed bits of it but bored too after about 30 mins. Kept asking to go home

that's the trouble bring kids to kids movies, they just ruin them

Beechwoodspark · 25-06-2019 9:34pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

that's the trouble bring kids to kids movies, they just ruin them

The missus said it was a waste of time and money bringing them!

Would’ve enjoyed running around the park more.

Maybe too young and didn’t “get” the characters.

Lesson learned.

sacamano · 25-06-2019 11:01pm

gimli2112 wrote: »

that's the trouble bring kids to kids movies, they just ruin them

Tbf the kids are noisy before the film starts but are dead quiet once it's on. It's the adults you need to be worried about.

Roger Hassenforder · 26-06-2019 11:22am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The missus said it was a waste of time and money bringing them!

Would’ve enjoyed running around the park more.

Maybe too young and didn’t “get” the characters.

Lesson learned.

Werent even born when TS3 was out!
Brought my spawn they werent blown away by it. they kept telling me they preferred Endgame.
Some funny bits, but wholly unnecessary.

Duke Kaboom was brilliant.

FunLover18 · 26-06-2019 11:41am

I loved it! It's definitely not as good as the previous three but by any other movie standards it's an excellent film. It feels like an epilogue to the other three. What I would say to anyone who hasn't seen it is that it's much more focused on Woody than the previous film with the rest of the toy taking a back seat (literally).

El Duda · 26-06-2019 11:51am

When I looked afterwards and saw that Keanu did Duke's voice I was all like tenor.gif?itemid=7443414

brianregan09 · 26-06-2019 6:20pm

Here's some of my thoughts on the film , spoilers inside

JP Liz V1 · 26-06-2019 10:52pm

El Duda wrote: »

When I looked afterwards and saw that Keanu did Duke's voice I was all like

2019 seems to be the year of Keanu Reeves

Duke and Forky were great

El Duda · 27-06-2019 9:08am

I wonder if Key and Peele had any input into their wild, fantasy sequences?

pixelburp · 27-06-2019 9:43am

brianregan09 wrote: »

Here's some of my thoughts on the film , spoilers inside

Broken link? No comment? Harsh!

brianregan09 · 27-06-2019 6:01pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Broken link? No comment? Harsh!

Fixed it , thanks hadn't noticed that

justinbellford · 28-06-2019 5:47pm

I enjoyed it. As most have already said, not the best, but I thought it was a good send off.

I thought the writing of the "villain" was good. Was annoyed at first, but grew to feel incredibly sorry for her. I kind of like that natural heel turn instead of a more one note villain.

gmisk · 28-06-2019 8:39pm

It was no toy story 3...but really enjoyed it, the new characters were a lot of fun, but it didn't have the impact of the other films.
The animation is spectacular

Mokuba · 01-07-2019 12:22am

I thought this was really poor.

For a time it looked like it might be good - I would have liked if they delved more into the Woody following her to kindergarten storyline.

Instead we got the same plot rehashed yet again.

A toy gets lost
The gang go to find the toy to get him back to his owner.
On the way they encounter a villain toy who has a backstory of not being loved by humans.
The toy eventually gets back home.

Gabby is pretty much the same character as Stinky Pete and Lotso. I found it bizarre how they wrapped up her arc by giving her a happy ending when she had done nothing to deserve it to that point. She kidnapped Forky, forced Woody to trade away his sound box to return him - didn't get what she wanted from the situation and - shes good now? Did I miss something?

They sideline pretty much the whole crew of toys to doing nothing for the whole movie.

This didn't need to exist - some people don't like that statement but it's bizarre to look at the 4th movie in a series without looking at it through the lens of the other 3. It didn't give us anything new and retreaded old plot lines yet again. Poor.

El Duda · 01-07-2019 12:52pm

As if this will be the last one. Mugs. Mugs the lot of you.

FunLover18 · 01-07-2019 3:40pm

Mokuba wrote: »

Gabby is pretty much the same character as Stinky Pete and Lotso.

I can see why you'd think this but she's not at all the same character. Whilst her actions are certainly antagonist her motivations are not.

Stinky Pete was never bought off the shelf and was extremely bitter, he saw the museum as an opportunity to be worshipped in a way most toys aren't. He wasn't going to be played with and discarded.

Lotso had been replaced by the parents of his child and had seen it as a personal betrayal. He became disillusioned and believed that all children would eventually betray and reject their toys.

Gabby Gabby is much more optimistic, she never had a child like Stinky Pete however she never blamed the children, she blamed herself and her faulty voicebox but ultimately she still wanted to fulfill her purpose as a toy and be there for a child, share the moments that Woodie had shared with Andy. She then gets rejected like Lotso but again she doesn't blame the child or children as a whole, instead Woody reminds her that there are other children who need her, who need a toy and she accepts this much more optimistic outlook. I'm saying her arc and characterisation are perfect but she's a very different character and IMO she ultimately deserves her happy ending because she doesn't turn her back on children deep her predicament or give up hope (except very briefly after Harmony drops her). It's why Woody sacrifices his voicebox, because he sees that he can help her and in doing so help a child.

I agree that the rest of the toys get sidelined but it is very much Woody's story.

woodchuck · 08-07-2019 10:09am

I missed the entire opening sequence because the cinema decided to change the start time of the movie and not inform us :rolleyes: I know the gist of it, but can anyone describe it in detail please?

Overall I thought it was good, but not great. While I did like a lot of the new characters and I thought Bo was great, I was disappointed that most of the old characters hardly got a look in. And it wasn't anywhere near as emotional as toy story 3!

pixelburp · 08-07-2019 10:23am

Well if we must have wallet-gouging, narratively superfluous 4th parts of trilogies, then at least Disney-Pixar had the decency to make the tale as heartwarming and funny as previous parts. It never quite escaped the event horizon of redundancy, but it made a genuine stab all the same, and that counts for something. It did brazenly introduce a number of existential questions that the script then chose to dance around, ensuring that fans on the internet will debate and obsess about the mechanics of this universe for years. Which, knowing the weaponised pop-culture of Disney, was probably intentional.

woodchuck wrote: »

I missed the entire opening sequence because the cinema decided to change the start time of the movie and not inform us :rolleyes: I know the gist of it, but can anyone describe it in detail please?

It was set "9 years ago", which I think would place it between films 2 & 3(?), during a rainstorm at night. Bo is put in a charity box to be taken away. Woody attempts to rescue her while the box sits outside the car, but on reaching her Bo declines the offer, noting that it's her time, while asking Woody to come with her. Woody steps away, unwilling to part with Andy.

Dades · 08-07-2019 10:59am

I really enjoyed it, as did my kids who were obsessed with the originals. The toybox was duly cracked open and Woody and the gang saw a new lease of life for the weekend.

I'd agree the rest of the old crew were somewhat sidelined, but I really liked Ducky, Bunny, and Duke Nukem. And the creepy Vincents added some real peril.

Yeah, it wasn't necessary, but it was fun.

ozmo · 08-07-2019 11:23am

Dades wrote: »

.. but I really liked .. Duke Kaboom....

I actually still have that toy in the attic - it was a mid 70's toy in reality called "Evel Knievel"

And I can confirm it did indeed crash a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlDa1dO7PhE

gmisk · 08-07-2019 11:54am

Dades wrote: »

I really enjoyed it, as did my kids who were obsessed with the originals. The toybox was duly cracked open and Woody and the gang saw a new lease of life for the weekend.

I'd agree the rest of the old crew were somewhat sidelined, but I really liked Ducky, Bunny, and Duke Nukem. And the creepy Vincents added some real peril.

Yeah, it wasn't necessary, but it was fun.

No love for the wonderfully titled Giggles McDimples?

Dades · 08-07-2019 3:49pm

ozmo wrote: »

I actually still have that toy in the attic - it was a mid 70's toy in reality called "Evel Knievel"

I wish I had mine. It was the Jet Cycle one.

gmisk wrote: »

No love for the wonderfully titled Giggles McDimples?

Superfluous character!

Combat Carl had a good cameo.
Loved the bit where his buddy got left hanging!

Johner · 08-07-2019 4:16pm

I thought it was good but wasn't close to any of the first 3. Perfectly enjoyable though and would probably give it a solid 8/10.

gmisk · 08-07-2019 6:09pm

Dades wrote: »

I wish I had mine. It was the Jet Cycle one.

Superfluous character!

Combat Carl had a good cameo.
Loved the bit where his buddy got left hanging!

I thought it was a really fun little character the opening scene in the little Polly pocket style holder was excellent.

Oh combat Carls were FUN!

pixelburp · 08-07-2019 9:41pm

I suspect Giggles was a mandated character, a demand there be an antagonist in the story when the film didn't really need one; I kinda liked her, the script managed to balance said antagonism with her obvious desperation to have an owner. It didn't quite overlap as smartly with Woodys arc the same way #2 allowed our hero to realise his place, but it OK. There are only so many "toys go bad" tales you can weave.

Mr E · 13-07-2019 7:52pm

Disney Blindsides Families with Lesbian Scene in Toy Story 4

https://onemillionmoms.com/current-campaigns/disney-blindsides-families-with-lesbian-scene-in-toy-story-4/

SMH..... :rolleyes:

NIMAN · 14-07-2019 12:18am

didn't notice it.

Dades · 14-07-2019 11:36pm

NIMAN wrote: »

didn't notice it.

I noticed it and thought I bet that's going to get some pearl-clutchers in a twist.

Reading the outrage you'd swear Tyler Durden had been in the editing room adding in his personal footage.

Say Your Number · 17-07-2019 11:43pm

Went to see it Monday, if you've seen the other three, then you've seen it all before, but still it's good fun, time didn't feel long at all, and there was a few laughs, Duke Kaboom and the two carnival toys were brilliant additions, those ventrilloqist dummies were meanacing f*ckers, was nearly out the door when that great scene during the credits came on.

I was worried it would wreck the ending of the third one but it didn't for me, although seeing how well it's done so far, I would say a fifth one is almost guaranteed, I'll probably re-watch the whole series again over the next while.

Hector Savage · 18-07-2019 1:24pm

I brought my 2 boys to it last sunday, great fun, was the 1st Toy Story film I have seen actually...

TerrorFirmer · 19-07-2019 9:27am

Bit mixed on this one. It's not a bad film at all in isolation and the CGI/voicework is outstanding, but the entire way through I was just thinking how utterly unnecessary it was and adds practically nothing to what was pretty much already a perfect trilogy. An easy watch, and is it worth your time really, but by far the weakest of the Toy Story movies.

PressRun · 24-07-2019 5:46pm

Had mixed feelings on this. If it was a standalone film, I probably would have thought it was great, but since it's been tacked on to an already amazing trilogy, I have different feelings on it. I can't shake the feeling that it just doesn't really add anything to the previous three and doesn't carry the emotional weight of the others. The third one was a brilliant conclusion and it really could have been left there. Not sure what value Pixar saw in this other than dollar signs because it's easily the weakest of all the Toy Story movies and doesn't actually bolster the other three.

I also had a terrible cinema experience with kids yelling and running around so might try it again at another time!

TheIrishGrover · 25-07-2019 1:21pm

Mr E wrote: »

Disney Blindsides Families with Lesbian Scene in Toy Story 4

https://onemillionmoms.com/current-campaigns/disney-blindsides-families-with-lesbian-scene-in-toy-story-4/

SMH..... :rolleyes:

Yeah.... But nobody has a problem with a woman flirting with a f*cking BEE!!!!!!

Edit: Could someone quote that link? I really felt dirty clicking on it.... and you do NOT wanna see my browsing history

pixelburp · 26-07-2019 6:05pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Yeah.... But nobody has a problem with a woman flirting with a f*cking BEE!!!!!!

Edit: Could someone quote that link? I really felt dirty clicking on it.... and you do NOT wanna see my browsing history

I'll just share the most pearl-clutching part of it, cos it really is hilariously desperate. The kids won't pick it up, and by their own words it's a "blink and you'll miss it", but RAR! AGENDA!

So many families probably plan on seeing this movie if they haven’t already and will be blindsided by this subtle but obvious promotion of the LGBTQ lifestyle. Not to mention there was a brief comment made about not hiding in a closet also in the movie. Some children may not catch this reference, but it was extremely unnecessary as with the lesbian couple. Both were brief and didn’t need to be included since it didn’t add to the story plot at all. These “blink and you will miss” moments were included strictly to push an agenda.

The Black Oil · 29-07-2019 9:48pm

We saw the first one on a school trip (first year in secondary). Not many franchises (that I've kept up with) have spanned into my mid 30s. It's too long since 3 for me to remember much of the plot. 4 is of course charming. Woody is the glue of the gang, as always. Buzz gets less time, though I got a kick out of his initial lack of internal voice. Bo Peep was just bloody marvellous, sheep were great too. It's got that thematic aspect about transitions in life and a need for sense of fulfilment. See how they close that loop off towards the end. Liked Bunny and Ducky. Gabby Gabby and the Bensons just had that believable level of menace. I'll always be amazed how quickly the toys become lifeless as soon as an adult/human appears, the timing's just lightning. I had forgotten about Reeves and I'm taking a mark off myself because I didn't click he was Duke...

Biggest laugh of the screening? By a country mile, when Forky

comments on Dad 'going to jail' because of the RV.

Good to see Don Rickles acknowledged in the credits and an animator who seems to have died quite young, 40s.

There was a kid behind me who fell asleep, maybe two thirds of the way through.

mathie · 30-07-2019 3:09pm

I felt the end of the movie lacked any emotional weight as it was something they're hinted at before in Toy Story 2 and then backed out of.
It was too little too late.
I assume it was because Hanks wants out?

helenawalsh · 31-07-2019 12:10pm

I really enjoyed the movie, I think it's been one of the funniest of the whole franchise. However, I do agree with the lack of emotion in the end, given the fact it's probably the last Toy Story movie they'll make.

cena · 05-08-2019 12:09am

very disappointed with this movie. I thought I would be a bit teary at the end.

Toy Story 4

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