Duke of York BBC Interview

blanch152 · 18-11-2019 11:25am

Twister2 wrote: »

Prince Andrew looking to salvage his reputation

How will it play out

The queen has approved the whole thing

What is the Current Affairs angle to this?

Minor celebrity talks about chequered past, really not of interest.

c.p.w.g.w · 18-11-2019 11:58am

blanch152 wrote: »

What is the Current Affairs angle to this?

Minor celebrity talks about chequered past, really not of interest.

His a member of the British Royal Family who is allegedly been involved in some of the worst crimes possible...

Shelga · 18-11-2019 12:05pm

high_king wrote: »

What the big deal with HRH the Duke of York bedding suitable 17 year olds, is that not the age of consent ? and in the UK it's 16

Age of consent is 18 in the US, where one of the prostitution incidents is alleged to have place. Not sure if Virginia Roberts was over 18 by then, but the whole thing is repulsive. He was 41/42 at the time, and in a position of immense privilege; she had been trafficked.

holyhead · 18-11-2019 1:33pm

He definitely gives off an image of a rabbit caught in the headlights despite 6 months planning.

Shows a distinct lack of empathy for Epstein’s victims. A complete lack of horror at what Epstein had been charged with.

Knowingly visits a convicted sex offender!

His lack of judgment is mind boggling for someone in his position.

I simply don’t believe him. The interview is up there with Maria Baileys on SOR on Rte Radio 1 for sheer cringe.

He should have stayed quiet than give the story more oxygen. His credibility is now destroyed.

nkl12xtw5goz70 · 18-11-2019 1:38pm

Shelga wrote: »

Age of consent is 18 in the US, where one of the prostitution incidents is alleged to have place. Not sure if Virginia Roberts was over 18 by then, but the whole thing is repulsive. He was 41/42 at the time, and in a position of immense privilege; she had been trafficked.

The age of consent in the US varies from state to state, but currently ranges from 16 to 18. The age of consent in New York and US Virgin Islands are 17 and 16 respectively.

Twister2 · 18-11-2019 1:52pm

holyhead wrote: »

He definitely gives off an image of a rabbit caught in the headlights despite 6 months planning.

Shows a distinct lack of empathy for Epstein’s victims. A complete lack of horror at what Epstein had been charged with.

Knowingly visits a convicted sex offender!

His lack of judgment is mind boggling for someone in his position.

I simply don’t believe him. The interview is up there with Maria Baileys on SOR on Rte Radio 1 for sheer cringe.

He should have stayed quiet than give the story more oxygen. His credibility is now destroyed.

He mentioned 'we' a lot during the interview

I'd say it's mostly 'I' judging by the decision to take the interview and his performance

sbsquarepants · 18-11-2019 2:04pm

Oops69 wrote: »

The Veneer of honour carefully cultivated by this parasitic family gets a good coat of turpentine ... when Lizzy kicks the bucket ther'yre toast.

I don't think so, the usual fawning twats will still stand out in the rain to watch them drive past in their gaudy golden carriages like rich pikeys on acid, then buy a nice plate to hang on the wall.

How the english public can't see them for the disgusting parasites they are is beyond me, but then the english can be quite an odd bunch all things considered!

Twister2 · 18-11-2019 2:11pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I don't think so, the usual fawning twats will still stand out in the rain to watch them drive past in their gaudy golden carriages like rich pikeys on acid, then buy a nice plate to hang on the wall.

How the english public can't see them for the disgusting parasites they are is beyond me, but then the english can be quite an odd bunch all things considered!

Yet you're here:)

sbsquarepants · 18-11-2019 2:13pm

Twister2 wrote: »

Yet you're here:)

Where can i get my plate?:D

Twister2 · 18-11-2019 2:14pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Where can i get my plate?:D

Fawning over the royals on this thread ffs

Stop moaning ffs · 18-11-2019 2:19pm

Brilliant

https://twitter.com/whispersnewsltd/status/1196412742791507969?s=21

sbsquarepants · 18-11-2019 2:20pm

fawning
/ˈfɔːnɪŋ/
adjective
displaying exaggerated flattery or affection; obsequious.
"fawning adoration"

If i had my way they'd all be burned at the stake. Shower of inbred parasitic cretins the lot of them.

kenmm · 18-11-2019 2:25pm

blanch152 wrote: »

What is the Current Affairs angle to this?

Ye - they are mainly historical affairs

oh and also the potential grooming and sexual abuse of a teenager, abuse of power and position, manipulation of the media to cover up above and how we all collectively accept as such from the powers at be and the journalism.

This isnt some minor 'celebrity' - its not some outcast from big brother shoplifting ffs

Harvey Weinstein · 18-11-2019 2:39pm

Mentioning that he went to a Pizza Party was very very unusual...

Twister2 · 18-11-2019 2:40pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Mentioning that he went to a Pizza Party was very very unusual...

saw something saying the pizza place wasn't open at the time?

James Brown · 18-11-2019 2:49pm

There's been rumors for decades not even relating to Epstein.
The idea that he stayed in his house for convenience isn't credible. Epstein only did one thing and that was supply young girls to the rich and famous.
Andrew's defence, he doesn't sweat, or didn't at the time, so her statement is false, also he was getting pizza, 30/40 miles away. Followed by he reckons the photo of him and one of the victims was faked.
Who ever said letting him talk was a good idea needs to be either thanked by the public or fired by Andrew and the crown.

James Brown · 18-11-2019 2:53pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Now that you’ve got your rant out of the way, can you be specific in terms of your Allegation?

He was friends and stayed with a known pedophile. At the house when many such pedophile activities took place. There's a photo of him with a young girl at the house.
I would suggest the accusation is Prince Andrew is a pedophile and I'd concur

Gunmonkey · 18-11-2019 3:01pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Who ever said letting him talk was a good idea needs to be either thanked by the public or fired by Andrew and the crown.

Probably going to be offered a free car ride through Paris; they might pass through the odd tunnel though.....

Harvey Weinstein · 18-11-2019 3:03pm

Twister2 wrote: »

saw something saying the pizza place wasn't open at the time?

Well the conspiratorial view would be that it was a warning to his Co conspirators that he'll spill the beans if he goes down.

Obviously many people regard pizza Gate as a fantasy but
In light of the fact that he, Epstein, Maxwell et Al were implicated in this conspiracy long before the Epstein thing hit the general public, its strange.
And him knowing full well that he was implicated in pizza Gate and also knowing what 'pizza party' means in this context.. Well that makes it even stranger.

marieholmfan · 18-11-2019 3:10pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

We
And him knowing full well that he was implicated in pizza Gate and also knowing what 'pizza party' means in this context.. Well that makes it even stranger.

???????

ohnonotgmail · 18-11-2019 3:16pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Well the conspiratorial view would be that it was a warning to his Co conspirators that he'll spill the beans if he goes down.

Obviously many people regard pizza Gate as a fantasy but
In light of the fact that he, Epstein, Maxwell et Al were implicated in this conspiracy long before the Epstein thing hit the general public, its strange.
And him knowing full well that he was implicated in pizza Gate and also knowing what 'pizza party' means in this context.. Well that makes it even stranger.

It was. It was made up.

Harvey Weinstein · 18-11-2019 3:17pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It was. It was made up.

Says you...
The central premise being that children are being trafficked and supplied for sex to the wealthy and the elites.. Yea that could never happen.. Wait, what thread are we on again?

ohnonotgmail · 18-11-2019 3:18pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Says you...

and anybody with an ounce of intelligence.

Harvey Weinstein · 18-11-2019 3:21pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and anybody with an ounce of intelligence.

Go on then, give a detailed breakdown..

ohnonotgmail · 18-11-2019 3:22pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Go on then, give a detailed breakdown..

There is nothing to breakdown. It never happened. It was made up.

Harvey Weinstein · 18-11-2019 3:24pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

There is nothing to breakdown. It never happened. It was made up.

Thought so, there's quite a lot to break down actually.
Who made it up?

ohnonotgmail · 18-11-2019 3:25pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Thought so, there's quite a lot to break down actually.
Who made it up?

why dont you toddle over the conspiracy theory forum. I'm sure they will love to regurgigate the whole thing for you.

Harvey Weinstein · 18-11-2019 3:26pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why dont you toddle over the conspiracy theory forum. I'm sure they will love to regurgigate the whole thing for you.

So it was made up but you can offer no proof.. Ok

ohnonotgmail · 18-11-2019 3:27pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

So it was made up but you can offer no proof.. Ok

I'm under no obligation to offer proof, especially to you.

Harvey Weinstein · 18-11-2019 3:30pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm under no obligation to offer proof, especially to you.

Ok, what we can say was that it was made up but it was just a fantastic coincidence that Epstein, Maxwell and the Duke were heavily implicated in it.

ohnonotgmail · 18-11-2019 3:32pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

Ok, what we can say was that it was made up but it was just a fantastic coincidence that Epstein, Maxwell and the Duke were heavily implicated in it.

you can say what you like. the whole thing was made up. That doesnt mean that epstein, maxwell and possibly andrew were not involved in paedophilia. but said paedophilia did not take place in a non-existant basement.

skimpydoo · 18-11-2019 6:07pm

Twister2 wrote: »

saw something saying the pizza place wasn't open at the time?

I posted earlier that it only opened in 2004 with Pizza Express singing a 25 year lease.

skimpydoo · 18-11-2019 6:14pm

This is funny.

Purple Mountain · 18-11-2019 7:46pm

skimpydoo wrote: »

The Pizza Express in Woking only opened in 2004 with a 25-year lease for the restaurant.

Woking is a bit of a sh*t hole town.
Big comedown for a London boy or even compared to Windsor.

Twister2 · 18-11-2019 7:51pm

He claims to be shot at during the Forklands

Has this been verifiably proven?

James Brown · 18-11-2019 7:54pm

Either way I'd say he's out next election...oh, wait...

bmc58 · 18-11-2019 8:32pm

FTA69 wrote: »

Anyone thinking that this man isn’t a f*cking nonce case who’s as guilty as sin is utterly delusional; just watched the whole interview there and it’s absolutely mad. Couldn’t happen to a nicer c*nt either.

I hope he is exposed and utterly ruined, and that it helps bring down the wider family of horrible parasites.

Andrew is as arrogant(for a sponger) as they come.The aura of "entitlement" was mind blowing for ant ordinary person.I hope the FBI get on his case now.He has let his guard down by giving an interview to the BBC.Now nothing is private.He is open to be questioned by all Law Enforcement agencies.

Twister2 · 18-11-2019 8:35pm

bmc58 wrote: »

Andrew is as arrogant(for a sponger) as they come.The aura of "entitlement" was mind blowing for ant ordinary person.I hope the FBI get on his case now.He has let his guard down by giving an interview to the BBC.Now nothing is private.He is open to be questioned by all Law Enforcement agencies.

Can't see it happening

IAMAMORON · 18-11-2019 9:23pm

What an absolute shambles.

" No sweat " , put that on your Pizza and eat it.

If he turned around and said he had been pals with Epstein for the last 20 years, and that he was only being loyal to a close friend all these years, I would have a lot more respect for him. We all have friends who are not perfect.

Mervyn Skidmore · 18-11-2019 9:30pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

What an absolute shambles.

" No sweat " , put that on your Pizza and eat it.

If he turned around and said he had been pals with Epstein for the last 20 years, and that he was only being loyal to a close friend all these years, I would have a lot more respect for him. We all have friends who are not perfect.

But that is pretty much what he did say. What he should have done was disown him because he was a child trafficker.

IAMAMORON · 18-11-2019 9:48pm

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

But that is pretty much what he did say. What he should have done was disown him because he was a child trafficker.

No he didn't. He denied being close to him at all. He said he met him through Maxwell and that he might have met him up to 3 times a year at dinner parties etc. He has tried to distance himself from him. However he has stooged himself by not prepping correctly for such a leading question. It is obvious that he has received poor PR advice prior to attending the interview.

What he " should have done " and what he did are massively irrelevant. At the time he was friends with Epstein, probably quite a close one in his eyes. Basically he has taken a risk on it never reaching the public domain and got on with things. It must have been nice to be able to travel over to New York and stay with a pal and get out of the limelight of London and just live normally. You can be sure that behind all the media crap they were probably quite close pals, that is why he didn't end their friendship after his conviction.

riclad · 18-11-2019 11:05pm

Its nice to have a rich friend with a mansion in new york,
you can stay with free .Who knows why there,s always young women hanging around ,
the house of a person convicted of having sex with underage women?
Andrew continued to be friends with epstein ,
he did not know epstein would be brought to court again for having sex with young women in new york in a few years .
Because a few reporters did not give up and continued to investigate
epsteins crimes .
Its hard not to be arrogant with his lifestyle , andrew is a rich royal ,he has spent his life going to partys and hanging around with rich people .
He thought he was safe and would not get caught hanging around with a
known sex criminal .
You do not get to stay in someone ,s house for days without being a close friend .

Venom · 19-11-2019 12:16am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

No he didn't. He denied being close to him at all. He said he met him through Maxwell and that he might have met him up to 3 times a year at dinner parties etc. He has tried to distance himself from him. However he has stooged himself by not prepping correctly for such a leading question. It is obvious that he has received poor PR advice prior to attending the interview.

His PR advisor quit 2 weeks ago when Andrew decided to do the BBC interview. The guy only had the job 4 weeks and must have seen this train wreck coming!

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/17/prince-andrews-pr-adviser-quit-telling-not-tv-interview-11170702/

IAMAMORON · 19-11-2019 12:30am

Venom wrote: »

His PR advisor quit 2 weeks ago when Andrew decided to do the BBC interview. The guy only had the job 4 weeks and must have seen this train wreck coming!

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/17/prince-andrews-pr-adviser-quit-telling-not-tv-interview-11170702/

It is a total car crash. I find it hard to believe that the British Royal family did not prepare for a much better interview. Very complacent. They have known about this scandal for years.

Had he come out and said that he was personal friend of Epstein for 20 years, he would have at least generated some sort of support for himself. He could have said that he couldn't turn his back on a good friend. People would still disapprove of what he was involved in, but they might have given him some credence for being loyal to a friend. Now they just think he is a liar who is quite possibly guilty of sex crimes. No one trusts a liar, especially one who doesn't stand by their friends.

peddlelies · 19-11-2019 12:33am

Comical interview, comes across as a proper arrogant twat too.

TCM · 19-11-2019 12:50am

peddlelies wrote:

Comical interview, comes across as a proper arrogant twat too.

Comes across as person with below average IQ.

19-11-2019 12:58am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It is a total car crash. I find it hard to believe that the British Royal family did not prepare for a much better interview. Very complacent. They have known about this scandal for years.

Had he come out and said that he was personal friend of Epstein for 20 years, he would have at least generated some sort of support for himself. He could have said that he couldn't turn his back on a good friend. People would still disapprove of what he was involved in, but they might have given him some credence for being loyal to a friend. Now they just think he is a liar who is quite possibly guilty of sex crimes. No one trusts a liar, especially one who doesn't stand by their friends.

He clearly lied about his level of friendship with Epstein - first half of interview was “Epstein was the +1 of Maxwell”- this approach was reiterated a number of times.
2nd half of interview- all of a sudden Epstein was a friend that he couldn’t just cold shoulder over the phone and had to meet him face to face. I’d say he was scared sh1tless wondering what exactly Epstein might have on him, and wanted to keep him as sweet as possible.

He certainly lied about Epstein just to protect himself- question is, did he lie about anything else?

His buffoonery can make you think that he didn’t, but his self centred arrogance points to the opposite.

Alrigghtythen · 19-11-2019 1:00am

He was pictured in la and fergie in india at the time,
Breaking his rule of one always been at home with the children defense

19-11-2019 1:11am

Now Jane Doe15 is saying Prince Andrew used as bait to lure her to Epstein’s island: (she didn’t go but was allegedly molested by both Epstein and female Epstein assistant)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7699303/Jeffrey-Epstein-victim-urges-Prince-Andrew-speak-FBI-help-survivors.html

Time to check your diary again Andrew!!! McDonalds in Surrey was it this time?

His career as a royal is completely over- and good riddance to him- he’ll never be a public representative again- there’s too much sh1t following him around at this stage.

STB. · 19-11-2019 1:28am

Its like something out of a Little Britain sketch.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2u8q4f

Duke of York BBC Interview

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